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What a fitting tribute to the ineptitude of the AFC West on the final day of the season. First Denver limps into the playoffs with 3 straight losses. Then the Raiders spit on the gift, and shoot themselves in both feet. And of course there's the horror of horrors for Chargers fans that the Bolts may have saved Norv Turner's job. As a Chiefs fan, I want Norv to be in San Diego forever! Heck, my Chiefs may have as much or more to proud of than any other team in that pathetic division. I know that's not saying much.

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What a fitting tribute to the ineptitude of the AFC West on the final day of the season. First Denver limps into the playoffs with 3 straight losses. Then the Raiders spit on the gift, and shoot themselves in both feet. And of course there's the horror of horrors for Chargers fans that the Bolts may have saved Norv Turner's job. As a Chiefs fan, I want Norv to be in San Diego forever! Heck, my Chiefs may have as much or more to proud of than any other team in that pathetic division. I know that's not saying much.


Dan, lol,

The worst division in the history of football? Perhaps, they certainly have a claim.

Well the playoff teams are offical.

Some nice games this weekend too.

My Steelers once again left the offense at home when they hit the road, beating sad Cleveland 13-9. This team is really beat up. Ben wont be healthy till next year, our best pass rusher Woodley once again out with his hamstring, now for four weeks. He won't be healed this year. We lost our best RB Mendenhall today for the year. He is our one big play back.

Because of all this, and our horrific road performances this year even when healthy, I see the wild card road as a trek to early oblivion for us.

But we may win our first game. Simply because we get Tim "Baby Jesus" Tebow. The miracle man has come down to earth with a holy thud in the last three weeks as defenses have figured out how to take away what little he can do and make him do all the many things he cant. So even the beat up, road offensiveless Steelers will have a defensive chance against probably the worst starting QB in the league.

So for once, hopefully, the saying, "Jesus saves" will apply to my entire football team come Sunday at four oclock because only the fact that Baby Jesus will helm the Broncos gives my team hope for one victory in the playoffs before our scheduled execution. He can truly be our savior. At least for one game.

Saturdays games are Cinci vs Houston. Two sacrificial lambs who will go on to be slaughtered by real playoff teams. Houston could have been a real b*tch but losing their starting QB ended what was a great season.

Second on Saturday is Detroit-New Orleans. Thats an interesting matchup because Detroit is playing lights out offense. So it could end up one of those 38-35 thrillers. Or New Orleans may blow em out. But a game you don't wanna miss.

Sundays first game is Atlanta-Giants. Another interesting matchup. Both teams had below average seasons and neither will go to the big dance, but both have genuine talent and it could also be a very tough, fun game.

Then Sunday at 4, closing out the show, Baby Jesus tries to perform one more miracle for the devoted acolytes in Denver and elsewhere that fading Tebow mania picked up all those weeks ago. If the Steelers bring their usual road offense to the game, who knows, maybe he will get one last chance this year to turn the water into win in a close game before his own scheduled cruxifiction takes place.

So here we go...now its for all the marbles. Let the playoff dance begin.

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The playoffs are always special. This is when you get the most amazing efforts the sport has to offer. To me the intensity usually surpasses the Super Bowl.

The Steelers will no doubt fight hard this coming weekend, but they are really banged up with seemingly no relief on the horizon.

The Texans would have been incredibly tough were it not for their rash of injuries, particularly Mario Williams and all their QB's. It's almost comical how they've all gone down, but no one in Houston is laughing.

I hope Suh keeps his head in the Lions - Saints game. The guy is an unbelievable big game player, so I expect a war as long as Stafford can stay on the field.

The Cowboys should be GREAT in the playoffs this season. They're just so good. They're America's Team you know. Oooops.... they didn't make it you say? Huh? wave cool3 happybeer

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The Texans would have been incredibly tough were it not for their rash of injuries, particularly Mario Williams and all their QB's. It's almost comical how they've all gone down, but no one in Houston is laughing.


Dan,

Yep. they had it all. A great D, terrific QB, great running game. Top WR's. They well could have gotten home field throughout and gone to the superbowl. Really tough way to go out like they will.

Lol, guess your not a Dallas fan! Boy you and my dad would get along. He still has hate for them back to the seventies, even though we beat them in both those classic superbowl matchups of super teams. He hated Landry and all that America's team stuff and the glitz of Dallas. And today still roots just as hard against them and Jerry Jones and Romo as he did all those many years ago against Tom Landry and Rodger Staubach.

My picks: The Steelers over Denver. Cinci over Houston. NO over Detroit. And on a hunch, lets go Atlanta over Giants.

The New Orleans and Giant games could really be good if all four teams show to play. Look for Cinci and Houston to be DULL as hell. Steeler game could be low scoring and close, if our away offense shows up. If the D mauls Tebow, like it should and our offense does OK, that game should be one sided after a while. Troy to get at least picks if Tebow ends up forced to throw? Wouldn't surprise me.

By the way, the Steelers play your AFC west next year Dan, so we get your Chiefs, Johns Raiders and Steves Chargers!!

That will make for some conversation, no?

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Sports Illustrateds Peter King, notorious for making the wrong picks, lol, has come out with his playoff predictions.

in the AFC he has Houston over Cinic 19-17. Steelers over Broncs 24-9. Then Ravens over Houston 27-10 and Pats over Steelers 23-16. Then Pats over Balt in championship game 22-20.

In NFC he has Saints over Lions 37-27. Giants over Falcons 24-20. Saints over 49ers 27-20. Greenbay over Giants 27-23 and finally in the upset, Saints beating Greenbay 30-27 in NFC championship game.

In superbowl he has Brees and the Saints winning their second title 34-24 over Brady and the Pats.

Hard, almost impossible for me to see a superbowl without either Balt or NE from the AFC or GB or NO from the NFC.

If two of those four teams are not fighting it out in the superbowl, I will really be surprise.

Dark horses? Well in the AFC, the Steelers have the on paper talent. But unlike 2005 this team just is not peaking. Too many injuries, too many offensive problems, especially on the road. Hard to see them winning at NE and Balt. Impossible really.

In the NFC? Offensively its Detroit. But man, their D really sucks. Best darkhorse perhaps are those gutsy Giants who really play balls to the wall when pressed with elimination. At least in the regular season they did.

The have great talent too. So that would be my dark horse in the NFC. But like the Steelers, I just can't see them winning two on the road against the quality of NO and GB. Just a bit too much to ask of any team.

Saints beating GB in the NFC championship game? Yeah, it could happen. They are playing their best ball of the year and Brees is just amazing. Completing 70 percent of his passes!! Thats sick.

But they never really seem to reach the offensive heights on the road in non dome stadiums that they do at home or in dome stadiums. And so, if they match up with the Pack again, I will go with that edge for GreenBay, a cold outdoor game in mid winter and take the Packers instead of going with Kings Saints.

But it should be on hell of a game. Maybe better than the superbowl.

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Well the Steelers wildcard road to oblivion that I imagined came true. Not really a surprise once it became apparent they brought their usually sh*tty road offense to this encounter.

Had we scored two touchdowns on those first two drives and gone up 14 zip and forced Tebow to pass on every down letting us rush him, it would have been history.

But as par for the course on the road, it was two field goals and at that point I knew it was game on with a struggle.

No real disappointment for me. Had we won, it just would have meant a total humilation up in New England next week and who really needs that? Well except for Patriot fans, lol.

We were missing so many players I won't even list them here. But even if healthy I am not sure we would have won. You gotta go with what you have and we still had talent on the field. Injuries sure didn't stop Green Bay last year, did they? And they had plenty. The Steeler had enough good players to win and they failed. And thats the bottom line.

The one big surprise was the teams total inablity to adjust to what became quickly obvious was Denvers plan: running and LONG passes. Even as Tebow kept hitting one deep wide open reciever after another, the Steelers still kept playing man to man with eight men in the box. And if you are having problems and don't adjust, in sports, the other team will just right on doing what works. We didn't and Denver did.

It is notable that Tebow only completed ten passes but for a over a whopping 300 yards. Amazing. That tells the story of what the Steelers defense was doing wrong.

The other surprise was normally superb CB Ike Taylor was torched all game long. I heard he trashed the locker room after the game. He should have. He was just that bad.

Anyway, that takes care of our season, in a fashion one could see coming weeks ago. Unlike last year, I had no legit hopes of going far in this years playoffs. The writing was long since on the wall.

Did Tebow impress me? Honestly no. We didn't pressure him at all. We didn't force him to make pro style throws into tight coverage. His wideouts were usually five or more yards completely alone when they recieved his passes. Any QB in football should have completed them. But at least he did, so I will give him that much.

I do hope this early exit prompts some changes in the Steelers, most especially with their offensive coordinator. But Ben loves him and who knows? I aint holding my breath.

I still can't believe I was dumb enough to pick Atlanta over the tough Giants last week. I had a hunch that this year they may have playoff success. But who goes with something as stupid as a hunch?

Anyone who follows football knows that any time Atlanta plays a huge must win game, especially on the road, they will not only lose, but get crunched. And so it happened again. Next year, they won't fool me with any hunches.

An interesting thing is that next weeks AFC games look like total duds. With rookie QB at the helm, I can't see anyway Houston will compete in the mad house at Baltimore. That place is a zoo and Balt plays like King Kong on steroids there.

And I give Tebow and Denver no more of a chance than I gave them before their blowout loss to NE in Denver a few weeks ago. I fully expect NE to show Pittsburgh exactly what a good offense and good team should do to them.

I will watch the games, because you never know, but I am expecting two snoozers.

The fun is on the NFC side. You have New Orleans red hot offense going against one of the best D's in football with Frisco. The game is in Frisco, out doors, which typically slows Brees and company down. Very intriging.

Then you have the vicious, resurgent Giants traveling to Green Bay. The Giants came within a hairs breath of doling out Green Bays first lost just a few weeks ago and they are now playing much better defense than they did back then. And Manning and the running game are hitting their stride. You know the Giants are very confident of victory. They are just that kind of confident, hard nosed team. A few years ago, a similar, peaking Giants team upset the invincible, undefeated Pats in the super bowl in a rematch of another regular season game the Giants barely lost. Can they turn the trick on a Green Bay team that is almost a clone of that New England monster in yet another playoff return engagement of their close regular season loss? It almost seems like history repeating, doesn't it?

Tune in to find out.

How do I see it? I still like the favorites. In todays league, offense seems paramount and I think both Green Bay and the Saints have a bit too much to lose those games. But the probability of great games and an upset is there. And that makes for great drama. So I will be watching those games with much more interest than their AFC counterparts.

Anyway, next weeks games will winnow out the last of the weak sisters. Then all that will be left is four quality teams vying for the big dance.

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Quite the weekend of football huh?

Saints @ Niners was one of the most amazing finishes considering the final 4 minutes you'll ever see. I can't say it was great defense [chuckle, chuckle] but it was exciting. Bye-bye Brees. You're an amazing QB but it wasn't to be. Harbaugh is one helluva coach. That QB bootleg was one of the best calls I remember seeing in an NFL game. Just incredible. I don't know if SF can crank up that kind of emotion and execution for the Giants though. Giants upset coming next week?

Ravens did show a little D eventually, but they were damn lucky to win. The Texans pretty much outplayed them on both sides of the ball. I could be wrong, but I expect the Patriots to beat the crap out of them, just more so if Ed Reed is injured.

I'm sure the Packers are feeling pretty hollow about their great regular season about now. Nothing sucks more in football than to have a great season and then not be ready to host a game. Bye-bye Rodgers. You're an amazing QB but it wasn't to be.

Is that a Giants - Patriots SuperBowl rematch I smell coming? It very well could be.

Patriots look like your Super Bowl winner to me.

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Dan,

Nice to drop by and see you post here. I have to say, I am a bit surprised at the paucity of NFL fans posting on this site. Usually when someone loves one sport, they usually love others and the NFL is so very popular.

But aside from you, me, Tailspin and Steve once a in great while, nobody gives any thoughts on this great sport.

Anyway, a very good post there. I really enjoyed reading it.

The two offensive superpowers in the NFC were swept away, hoist by their own petard and mistakes. I respect what both the 49ers and Giants did, and they deserved to win those games, but both Green Bay and Orleans killed themselves with turnovers.

Of course the fans of the winning teams can say, "We forced those turnovers" and there is a point to that. And turnovers are so very important in deciding winners as the stats so clearly show. When two good teams play, the one that gets the lion share of turnovers almost always win. Thats why they drive coaches nuts, lol.

The 49ers got four of them. And they needed every one. Their achilles heel, a rickety offense almost destroyed them because they couldn't manufacture enough TD's off those turnovers in the first half to put Orleans away like they should have. For me, that goes back to the flawed Alex Smith. But I will say, in the last four minutes, that guy turned into John Elway leading one spine tingling improbable drive after another to keep bring his team back and eventually win.

That was as exciting a playoff game as I have ever seen. Anyone who watched it knows why and anyone who missed it really missed out big time. Just drama of the highest order with four lead changes in the last four minutes. I never saw anything like it in my life.

Harbaugh is certainly the biggest thing to hit NFL coaching in memory. What he has done with that team and Smith is beyond compare. Greatness, true greatness, is established over time, but man, if this is what Harbaugh is, the 49ers have hit the proverbial jackpot with that hire.

Yes Dan, that QB sneak was amazing. Reminded me a bit of Orleans onside kick in that superbowl coming out after the first half. I really admire those kinds of calls and that kind of winner take all coaching.

It will be so interesting to watch Harbaugh and his team next year. And also to see if Smith continues his improbable progression into a QB who can actually carry a team instead of just try compliment one.

Green Bay fans must be in a coma tonight. I mean defending superbowl champs, the best QB in the biz, one loss all year, home field and they lose their first game!! Can it hurt any worse? No way possible. It can't.

And they really blew it in two ways: with the three turnovers AND the SEVEN dropped passes, including one for a TD. You won't beat a quality team like the Giants that way. No way, no how.

But all that said, the Giants played a great game on both sides of the ball. On defense giving the Packers fits in a way I didn't think possible in a game of this magnitude. The Giants were dangerous coming into this game and today they showed why. Just great stuff from them. Like history repeating itself with that improbable win over the PATs a few years ago in the superbowl. But this time they didn't do it in a neutral field, they did in Lambeau. Wow. What a tough, gutsy team.

Baltimore over QB depleted Houston was pretty easy to predicit. I will say next year, with Schaub, the Texans are going to be hell on wheels to beat in the regular season and playoffs. They are the real deal on both sides of the ball.

NE over Tebowmania was even easier to see coming. I said it would be a blowout again and of course it was. Tebow at this stage of his career is more circus freak than QB. And the Broncos are not that tough or talented. That win over the Steelers last week was more an indictment of how screwed up the Steelers were on offense and defense than any compliment to Denver or Tebow. This weekend they faced a real team, with a top caliber offense and the results were written and submitted long before kickoff.

Next weeks matchups are so very interesting. I can see either of the four teams winning. If Balt can get Rice going say for 150 yards or so against NE's bad defense, I can see them keeping Brady off the field enough to win. Or I can see Baltimores pathetic offense being shut down and Brady slowly dissecting their D over time and things finally starting to roll for them to a win. Dont have any idea how it will play out.

I can see the hard hitting 49ers finally putting a stop to the Giants road warriors, because they are just that tough, or I can see the Giants, a bit more well rounded, full of confidence, taking apart the Niners over time and preying on the Niners not top class offense. Once again, a very interesting matchup.

And what of superbowl? Well Dan, it may well be a NE-Giants rematch. Can you imagine how much Brady and Billichek would love to avenge that all time upset of a few years ago? You know they do. Those are the kinds of guys who love pay back more than anything. Pretty heady stuff.

Or how about an all Harbaugh Superbowl? Wouldn't that be something? Who would have even imagined that when the year started? Incrediable. Then they can rename the NFL the HFL for this year, lol.

Like you Dan, I lean towards a NE-Giants rematch.

If its NE and the Giants, look for a higher scoring game, both teams putting up 24 or more. If its Balt and Niners, look for 24 or less points by both teams. Probably 17 or less.

If its Balt and the Giants, lol, the NFL will hate it because the ratings won't be as sexy as the other two matchups.

If its the Pats and Niners, it will be a very interesting game of NE offense vs great defense and the Niners more staid offense vs NE's porous D.

Im sure the NFL will hope to see NE vs Giants or Balt vs Niners for obvious reasons.

Ill give my superbowl pick after next week when we see whats up.

I will say this: the Giants look like the most well rounded teams left, meaning both sides of the ball. That may be the decider. But unlike NE, they have one more very tough foe to beat in their third straight road game. No easy task for any team. The Niners will pose a threat to them that neither Atlanta nor Green Bay could, a ferocious, brutal, hard hitting defense that can stop the run and harrass Eli. And when Eli gets harrassed he will make mistakes.

That game could be a war of attrition. Can the Giants survive that kind of game at the end of a three week road trip?

Stay tuned to find out.

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Wow Randy. I have no idea why, but I hadn't even thought of the all Harbaugh superbowl possibility. Not so attractive to me, but I don't really have any horses in the race you know. Giants - NE is probably the most compelling matchup.

The Giants, despite barely sneaking into the PO's definitely belong there and they know it. You know how it takes a while to get used to the idea of winning? Well, that's how I see the 49ers. SF has all that rich history, but guys on the team are pretty far removed from that. All they've known is losing-- at least the guys who've been there for some time. The job that Harbaugh has done in turning around their team culture is just incredible. Don't get me wrong. I see them as very talented, especially defensively. But they do have those spurts of being offensively challenged. Again, if I were forced to pick I'd go with the Giants. They have enough guys still with the team that upended NE's glory season to know what it takes to win at that level. At this point that really does matter.

I'm surprised that more members don't post on the NFL thread too. I'm always curious about your take on the games though, if there is one... so I check in!

BTW, I was positive that Tebow and the Broncos were going down big too. To me that was a no-brainer. I was slightly surprised that the Pats were THAT ready to defend the Tebow option running offense, but truthfully most teams would take care of it that easily after getting used to the novelty of it in the pro game. It was doomed from the start. And it probably helped Belichick to have played them a few weeks back in Denver too. Probably helped Brady's motivation to have Tebow's name trumpeted all over the nation leading up to the game too! ha! They got TeBradyed! Seven TD passes and they could have easily had a lot more if they really wanted. Ouch!

Oh. Again, I touched on it and then you really polished it off, but dayum... that has to be very painful for Packers fans. They probably would have gained momentum and been very hard to beat if they had gotten past that game. But they just were not ready to go. Not really anyway. It's very hard to be hungry enough to repeat as champions. Fans underestimate that fact. I think it's even harder in football than basketball.

Thanks much! Enjoy what's left.

By they way again. You know how pathetically optimistic I am after all we've shared over the years on this board. But... wow... between you and me... I'm really struggling with this year's Lakers team. It's not because of the talent. It's because of what's going on with Kobe dominating everything that happens on the court. I gotta hand it to him-- he has the will of any other 10 players put together. But unfortunately that just might be the problem. LOL.

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Steelers offensive Cooridinator Bruce Arians "retired" today!!

He was gonna get sh*t canned after last year but Big Dumb Ben spoke up strongly in his defense and saved his job.

But now, finally, after a year where we scored just two TDs more than pathetic Denver, he is gone!

I have spoken about Arians plenty on here. But for those who didn't see my comments or have forgotten, how do I feel?

Like we just won the Superbowl!!

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So, the penultimate games are in and we have our two entrants: New England and the Giants.

Both games were razor close, with really either team could have won. There were no weak links, no pretenders among the final four. Just serious teams playing serious football.

In both the games, a singular player will be excoriated for causing their teams to lose. In the case of 49ers Kyle Williams, this is almost certainly the case. His fumble of two kicks led to the direct demise of his team that had fought so hard and so well.

Baltimores Billy Cundiff missed a chip shot 32 yard field goal as time ran down. It didn't cost his team the win, but it did cost them an overtime try to get the win.

Fans being idiots, no doutb both Cundiff and Williams will have problems. So will their kids if they have any in school in those cities. Too many idiot fans who have no lives except sports, have shown this ugly side before, trashing a players house, breaking their windows, making threats on their lives, harrassing their kids. Yes, that bad. And already Williams is getting hate tweets. Like these fans have never failed to meet a challenge in their own lives, never screwed up, never made a mistake as the human condition makes us all vulnerable to do.

What is next for the two teams?

Well, who can doubt that NE and Brady and Billichek are just dying to avenge that huge upset four years ago that cost them not only the title, but history and the claim of being the greatest single season team in NFL history?

No, it won't make up for it. But it would feel so very good to uber competitors Brady and Billichek. You just know this the team they want. And after four long years of no titles, you know Brady and Billichek will appreciate this appearance more than any other they have been in.

So I pick the PATS, right? Nope.

I like the Giants in this. While their offense is no NE offense, it is very good. While Eli is no Brady, he has taken his spot this year among the elite. He is that good. And with great running backs and great, explosive wideouts in Nicks and Cruz, I see them creating hell for a Patriots D that just isnt that good.

One the other side of the ball, the healthy Giants D may in fact at least approach Baltimores defense. It will be no gimme for Brady and company to move the ball up and down the field on the Giants. Move the ball they eventually will. But earn it they must.

I think the Giants are just too welll rounded, too good on both sides of the ball to lose to a offensive powerhouse but otherwise very flawed NE team.

I kind of liken this matchup to the first Lakers-Celtics series a few years ago. Kobe and Lakers bringing their great offense up against a more well rounded Celtic team, who did not have quit the offense we did, but had a good one, and had a much better defense and whole team.

That is how I see this matchup, with Brady and NE playing that years Kobe and LA while the Giants assume the role of the tough, well rounded Celtics.

Yeah, it seems crazy to pick against Brady, but over time I have learned that usually, the best TEAM wins, if they don't have any serious flaws. And in the Giants, thats what I see this year.

So lets say the Giants get, oh 28-31 points while NE weighs in on the losing side with 21-24.

Thats how I see it. Now lets see how it plays out.

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The only thing worse than derailing your team which was seemingly on a roll to a win in regulation with a very stupid play -- is to follow it up with a careless fumble in OT to cause your team to lose for sure. I can imagine Kyle Williams feels terrible and I doubt that feeling will go away soon. Some lessons are very hard. Lasting legends are made on championship weekend. His name will be associated with that loss for life. Sports can be very cruel indeed. There is no place to hide.

I see it a little differently Randy. I think that easy win vs. the Broncos was no help to the Patriots. I believe they will play a better rounded game in the Super Bowl and take out the Giants. I know they have the revenge factor in their favor but that might work against them too. Sometimes when you know a loss would be too painful to bear, you lose. Still... not hedging my bets here... LOL.

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Dan,

Yes, Williams will always remember and be known for the fumbles/turnovers that really sealed his teams fate. Would I trade places with him, given all that, with the life he still leads? Of course. But boy, what a way to be known and of course, hated by some, in life forever. He has already recieved death threats by morons who don't know the difference between sports and real life. What a shame.

It would not surprise me to see NE win, Dan. Brady is incrediable, so is Billichek and that offense is just out of this world. But I suspect the Giants will have a bit too much to throw at NE on both sides of the ball for them to overcome.

It will be very interesting to see how it shakes down. The rematch of that very historic upset certainly adds a dimension to this game that any other matchup would have lacked. It is a game I very much look forward too.

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Randy, Yours is likely the smart perspective on the Super Bowl pick. The Patriots defense has had holes in it all year long and that doesn't suddenly change overnight. More than anything else I'm just going on a hunch.

NE was sick to death when they lost to the Giants in the game that spoiled their perfect season. Just imagine how they will feel if they lose to them again! I think this one is going to be ultra intense.

I'm not a fan of either team but I'll be watching.

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Dan,

Im not a fan of either of them too. I honestly don't care who wins it. Going against Brady is always rough, lol.

The bookies have made NE the favorite at 3.5. Now that doesn't mean THEY think NE will win. It means they think the PUBLIC thinks NE will win so they gave odds to get even betting money on both sides.

I have no doubt that both Brady and Billichek want to win this one more than any other. Because of the first game between them four years ago and what it cost NE. And also because they have not won one in seven years. A long time. And time is running out on the 34 year old Brady, and probably by extension of losing Brady soon, for Billichek too.

But wanting and getting are two different things. When I look at the Giants running game and especially the very tough, speedy, prolific WRs they have in Cruz and Nicks, I see huge problems for NE's shaky D. I just don't think they can shut all that down at this late date.

And when I look at the Giants D, I see one that is capable of at least limiting NE from one of those 38 point games, just as Baltimores D did last week.

When I add those two factors together, it spells a very tough matchup for NE in my view. I think the Giants are exactly the wrong team for NE to face.

Once again, I harken back to that first Boston LA series a few years ago. Like Boston, I just think the Giants have too much on both sides for even the great Brady and Billichek to overcome. Unlike four years ago, I actually think the Giants have the better team this time around and should be favored, at least if you go by talent and a complete team. But of course NE is favored because the public is enamoured of Brady and Billichek.

If I were handicapping this game just on ability of the teams, I would make the Giants a four point favorite.

I know one thing for sure, I will be watching to see how it shakes down in real life, lol.

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I'm love super bowl weekend. Saturday UFC 143, Sunday Pats vs Giants for the Super Bowl, Monday Lakers 76ers and my birthday.
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Hey, Def:

You sound like a real all around sports fan like me. Yes, I love Superbowl weekend too. And this Sunday wont be half bad either. After the Lakers game I will immediatly switch to ESPN 2 to watch the finals of the Aussie Open tennis major between Djokovic and Nadal. Both those guys are just spectacular and the two best in the world. The game they play is something else to watch. A real athletic treat.

Now I just have to make sure that I don't get the result of that match before I watch it on Sunday night.

And early happy birthday to you as well!!!

On the NFL side, interesting to see Tampa Bay hire Rutgers coach Greg Schiano. I think the last two college coaches to jump to NFL head coaching jobs were Jimmy Johnson and John Harbaugh in Frisco. Not bad, right? I don't know why more teams don't hire some of those good college coaches instead of retreading those same old failed NFL coaches around and around again. A good coach is a good coach. Take a chance. Its better than hiring some guy who already proved that he can fail with another NFL team. Will be interesting to see how Schiano does.

Here is a pic that is making its rounds on the net that I found very amusing.



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You sound like a real all around sports fan like me. Yes, I love Superbowl weekend too. And this Sunday wont be half bad either. After the Lakers game I will immediatly switch to ESPN 2 to watch the finals of the Aussie Open tennis major between Djokovic and Nadal. Both those guys are just spectacular and the two best in the world. The game they play is something else to watch. A real athletic treat.

Now I just have to make sure that I don't get the result of that match before I watch it on Sunday night.

And early happy birthday to you as well!!!

On the NFL side, interesting to see Tampa Bay hire Rutgers coach Greg Schiano. I think the last two college coaches to jump to NFL head coaching jobs were Jimmy Johnson and John Harbaugh in Frisco. Not bad, right? I don't know why more teams don't hire some of those good college coaches instead of retreading those same old failed NFL coaches around and around again. A good coach is a good coach. Take a chance. Its better than hiring some guy who already proved that he can fail with another NFL team. Will be interesting to see how Schiano does.

Here is a pic that is making its rounds on the net that I found very amusing.




Thanks SPQR. LOL nice pic I like that skit that SNL did on Tebow, Jesus "If i'm gods son then Tom Brady must be his nephew."
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On the NFL side, interesting to see Tampa Bay hire Rutgers coach Greg Schiano. I think the last two college coaches to jump to NFL head coaching jobs were Jimmy Johnson and John Harbaugh in Frisco. Not bad, right?


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What about Barry Switzer, Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino, and Nick Saban???


All were in between Johnson and Harbaugh
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What about Barry Switzer, Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino, and Nick Saban???


John,

They all sucked. Switzer won a title with Dallas, but it was on Johnson's fumes. He always struck me as a dunce. When they hired him, I told a friend of mine who was a huge Dallas fan, "In three years you will crying in your beer for Jimmy Johnson to be back." And he was. Saban's heart obviously was not in it. I don't know what was up with that guy. He probably should not have taken a job he really didn't want. Spurrier I would have hired. He bombed out. Petrino I know nothing about. The name rings a bell, but I don't know a thing about him as a pro coach. I guess that says it all about whatever he did as a pro coach, wherever he was, lol.

Hiring any coach is risky. But I will gladly, firstly, hire a successful college coach (provided I liked him, If I were the hiring teams GM) than some retread who has already been fired by pro teams, as so often seems to happen.

And that type of thing is even more edemic in the NBA. I mean Flip Saunders was just fired. And a few weeks ago Coach Valium. Both those guys had been fired multiple times before as head coaches. What did those owners think would happen this time? I mean take a freakin chance on someone new. Even if its a college guy. One thing we know, Saunders and Coach Valium will be back in the captains chair someday, if they want it. Just like all the other NBA retread coaches.

Def,

Yeah, that was funny. The whole Tebow thing was funny, or pathetic. I read that article before the NE playoff game where 43 percent of fans said Tebow was recieving divine intervention in his games. Wow. Amazing. Its the year 2012 and that many people believed that. Scary. I wonder if those cavemen..er I mean Americans who believe that think Tom Brady is Satan, the anti christ?

I'm sure some do, lol. The whole thing says a lot about peoples "minds", for lack of a better word.

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John,

They all sucked. Switzer won a title with Dallas, but it was on Johnson's fumes. He always struck me as a dunce. When they hired him, I told a friend of mine who was a huge Dallas fan, "In three years you will crying in your beer for Jimmy Johnson to be back." And he was. Saban's heart obviously was not in it. I don't know what was up with that guy. He probably should not have taken a job he really didn't want. Spurrier I would have hired. He bombed out. Petrino I know nothing about. The name rings a bell, but I don't know a thing about him as a pro coach. I guess that says it all about whatever he did as a pro coach, wherever he was, lol.

Hiring any coach is risky. But I will gladly, firstly, hire a successful college coach (provided I liked him, If I were the hiring teams GM) than some retread who has already been fired by pro teams, as so often seems to happen.
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I agree, Switzer was a dunce. In all honesty when I heard our most recent Bush president speak he reminded me of Switzer, you know, just clueless.

Bobby Petrino was the guy who coached Atl and abruptly left. Pulled basically the same move Saban pulled. The old "I'm not going anywhere" trick. Of course he quit days after.

Damn, i fudged something up with the quoting process. It isn't the same as before. Get all these silly error messages. Too many words, not enough quote tags. WTF is up with that????
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Congocash,

I WILL say it with you. I think this a very bad matchup for NE and I think the Giants will win. Just too good an all around team for the offense monster but flawed defense of NE.

John,

The quote system is the same. Just try again with it the next time. Maybe out of practice?

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What about Barry Switzer, Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino, and Nick Saban???


John,

They all sucked. Switzer won a title with Dallas, but it was on Johnson's fumes. He always struck me as a dunce. When they hired him, I told a friend of mine who was a huge Dallas fan, "In three years you will crying in your beer for Jimmy Johnson to be back." And he was. Saban's heart obviously was not in it. I don't know what was up with that guy. He probably should not have taken a job he really didn't want. Spurrier I would have hired. He bombed out. Petrino I know nothing about. The name rings a bell, but I don't know a thing about him as a pro coach. I guess that says it all about whatever he did as a pro coach, wherever he was, lol.

Hiring any coach is risky. But I will gladly, firstly, hire a successful college coach (provided I liked him, If I were the hiring teams GM) than some retread who has already been fired by pro teams, as so often seems to happen.

And that type of thing is even more edemic in the NBA. I mean Flip Saunders was just fired. And a few weeks ago Coach Valium. Both those guys had been fired multiple times before as head coaches. What did those owners think would happen this time? I mean take a freakin chance on someone new. Even if its a college guy. One thing we know, Saunders and Coach Valium will be back in the captains chair someday, if they want it. Just like all the other NBA retread coaches.

Def,

Yeah, that was funny. The whole Tebow thing was funny, or pathetic. I read that article before the NE playoff game where 43 percent of fans said Tebow was recieving divine intervention in his games. Wow. Amazing. Its the year 2012 and that many people believed that. Scary. I wonder if those cavemen..er I mean Americans who believe that think Tom Brady is Satan, the anti christ?

I'm sure some do, lol. The whole thing says a lot about peoples "minds", for lack of a better word.


My brother was telling me that it wasn't him winning the games or divine intervention it was the defense and the kicker. Tebow to me is a college QB not a NFL QB.
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My brother was telling me that it wasn't him winning the games or divine intervention it was the defense and the kicker. Tebow to me is a college QB not a NFL QB.


Def,

Your brother was right. Apparently he lives in the year 2012, not the year 1441BC when "divine intervention" was much more common in human affairs, lol.

Tebow is a horrible NFL qb. Maybe he will get better, maybe not. But right now if there is divine intervention with him and his "talent", he is getting a very raw deal from whatever god is intervening. He should ask for god to stop intervening with him in that way before he ends up out of the league.

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My brother was telling me that it wasn't him winning the games or divine intervention it was the defense and the kicker. Tebow to me is a college QB not a NFL QB.


Def,

Your brother was right. Apparently he lives in the year 2012, not the year 1441BC when "divine intervention" was much more common in human affairs, lol.

Tebow is a horrible NFL qb. Maybe he will get better, maybe not. But right now if there is divine intervention with him and his "talent", he is getting a very raw deal from whatever god is intervening. He should ask for god to stop intervening with him in that way before he ends up out of the league.


I don't think he'll get better. I think he should have been playing RB, he could have been a poor man Hershel Walker with his body.
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I don't think he'll get better. I think he should have been playing RB, he could have been a poor man Hershel Walker with his body.


Def,

I too suspect his QB days are numbered. I think he could make a great fullback. Maybe a good TE too after putting on some more weight.

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I don't think he'll get better. I think he should have been playing RB, he could have been a poor man Hershel Walker with his body.


Def,

I too suspect his QB days are numbered. I think he could make a great fullback. Maybe a good TE too after putting on some more weight.


I'll be glad so all this Tebow mania could stop.
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Def,

Me too. That kind of attention should go to players who earn it with skill and performance, not some freak show like Tebow. And it will stop. All the fans and media he has attracted will leave him as fast as they came as his deficiencies and losses start to pile up.

By the way, that Djokovic-Nadal Aussie Open tennis final was more than it was cracked up to be. Anyone who saw it knows why. Those who didn't missed by far the best sports event of the week, or month or maybe the year. What a brutal struggle it was. You honestly felt bad either of those guys had to lose it. Close to six hours it went before a "winner" was decided. The longest tennis match in Open history. Those guys are atheletes supreme. And what character and will to win by both. They were like two tigers going at it tooth and claw. Unreal.

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Congocash,

I WILL say it with you. I think this a very bad matchup for NE and I think the Giants will win. Just too good an all around team for the offense monster but flawed defense of NE.

John,

The quote system is the same. Just try again with it the next time. Maybe out of practice?


Agree on all points bro, Giants will repeat. Boston must go down!
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Me too. That kind of attention should go to players who earn it with skill and performance, not some freak show like Tebow. And it will stop. All the fans and media he has attracted will leave him as fast as they came as his deficiencies and losses start to pile up.

By the way, that Djokovic-Nadal Aussie Open tennis final was more than it was cracked up to be. Anyone who saw it knows why. Those who didn't missed by far the best sports event of the week, or month or maybe the year. What a brutal struggle it was. You honestly felt bad either of those guys had to lose it. Close to six hours it went before a "winner" was decided. The longest tennis match in Open history. Those guys are atheletes supreme. And what character and will to win by both. They were like two tigers going at it tooth and claw. Unreal.


HAHA Sorry but I don't watch tennis so idk what you're talking about, but it does sound like it was a hell of a match. 6 hours GODDAMN!!!

Anyways this week is FIGHT WEEK WOOOOOO.
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Well, tomorrow is the biggest sport event of the year, Superbowl XLVI, the pats vs the giants , a rematch of 2008's Superbowl....... SO as I know Topbuzz has more people active during lakers game day and I enjoy discussing the games here,,,,,,And because the lakers are not playing tomorrow, and there should many football fans in here, I thought about open an exception and create this thread so we can comment on the game and have some fun......What do you guys think ?

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Lakers bounce back from a tough loss and win the superbowl... Kobe puts them on his back and gets 7 touchdowns.

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Don't we already have an NFL thread but on everything else.
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Giants 31 Pats 24.

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Post Subject: RE: The official SUPERBOWL thread!!! Post ID: 581679Posted: Feb 05, 2012 - 11:53 AM PST
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Post Subject: RE: The official SUPERBOWL thread!!! Post ID: 581686Posted: Feb 05, 2012 - 12:20 PM PST
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In typical Tom Brady/Belichick tradition, I'll say that the game will be decided by 3 points.

Giants - 34
Patriots - 31

I'll say that Manning gets the MVP, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the Giants' receivers (whoever Edelman is forced to cover) has a monster day with like 3 TD's and gets the MVP. My assumption is that that guy would be Manningham.

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Post Subject: RE: The official SUPERBOWL thread!!! Post ID: 581687Posted: Feb 05, 2012 - 12:22 PM PST
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Eli Manning is going to lead The Giants to a comeback victory late in the 4th quarter by avoiding a hard blitz by spinning & ducking. Then lobbing up a 33 yard pass which is caught by the wide-receiver with his head! ......OOOPS! .....Deja-Vu?

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Post Subject: RE: The official SUPERBOWL thread!!! Post ID: 581770Posted: Feb 05, 2012 - 03:12 PM PST
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Where were all you football fans all year with our NFL thread? lol. We could have used your comments every week. Would have made it much more interesting to hear other NFL fans opinions during the year.

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Hey all, since today is an unofficial national holiday I figure that we could get a discussion going on the Superbowl. For all my fellow LTBers who are your favorite NFL teams? I assume that most here are obviously from LA so I'm guessing we'll have a lot of Chargers, Raiders, and Rams fans here.

Post your favorite NFL team and your thoughts on this Superbowl.

My NFL team has been the Jets since I was 4 years old (even before I was a Lakers fan).

I'm from NYC so this Superbowl of the hated Pats and the severely disliked Giants is my worst nightmare. Since I have to choose someone to root for I'm rooting for my fellow NY team. I absolutely hate Tom Brady, Bill Belifu.ck, and everything Boston.

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Post Subject: RE: The Official Superbowl XLV Thread Post ID: 581782Posted: Feb 05, 2012 - 03:52 PM PST
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My favorite team is the Tennessee Titans! Jake Locker will be the future, hopefully.. haha.

I hate the Patriots so i'm hoping the Giants win. I think it'll come down to the last drive. I'm taking the Giants 41-38.

Oh and isn't this thread supposed to go the the unrelated Lakers stuff?

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Merging with the other thread.
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Un poco de salsa de Cruz.
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Do you hate the patriots cause there from Boston or is it just me , So I'm going with the giants .

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We already have a superbowl thread Lakers357.
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14 plays, 96 yards to finish the half...unbelievable drive.

It really feels to me like the Giants missed their chance to put this game away early. That holding call on the Jacobs run on 3rd and 1 was devastating. If they don't call the holding there, Giants at least walk away with a FG. It feels like the Giants played much better this half, and somehow the Pats are up by 1. And they get the ball to start the second half.

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