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Post Subject: Who is your favorite young player on the Lakers? Post ID: 614801Posted: Mar 20, 2012 - 11:52 AM PST
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Hey,Lakers fans who do you think from the young players will make a impact for the lakers in the future.The choices are Andrew Goudelock,Devin Ebanks,Darius Morris,Christian Eyenga?


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Bynum.

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Katie,

if there is one good thing having a different coach this season, it´s the fact that he plays rookies. Or, lately, at least one of them. My choice is Andrew Goudelock. His quickness is impressive, with and without the ball. He can get hot any time and he´s not one-dimensional. He´s got that floater in the lane, can drive and kick and also, of course, he can make the three-ball. I like this guy and hope we can all enjoy watching him develop into a good player.
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Goudelock seems to be the more polished of all the three but Ebanks is the one that still ranks the highest.

He's got enough length and quickness to guard 2s and 3s, is a solid cutter and passer, can develop a decent shot from the outside and can become a better version of Matt Barnes ( once he fixes his broken left handle )

Goudelock's got a great floater, great range but is an SG in a PG's body and hence, he shares the same typical flaws - Lack of D to defend either 1 or 2, poor decision making with the ball in his hands, passing hindered by his lack of split second speed to draw the double and not enough quickness to break off the dribble. He can be a strong 6th man off the bench in a few years if we can get a larger SG.

Morris is a wild-card so far. We've discussed a lot about him over the course of the season and not much has changed since he last played - Not controlled, doesn't have a strong/solid outside game yet, above par court vision but lacks the ability to dictate the tempo of a team. His length and quickness does make him a handy defensive PG IF he works on it for the next few years.

Skyenga is waaaaay too raw. He'll trash anyone on the open court but that's about it right now. He's athletic but he has far too many holes to be of use in the near future - he can beat guys off the dribble but lacks ball handling to be of any use ( or so say some guys who followed him ), he has a very inconsistent stroke but can be solid on D once he reigns in his athleticism and gains experience.


Wait a sec, I think I like Skyenga and Ebanks equally lol. By like, I mean guys who can play significantly high minutes on the court without being a liability on either end - basically, solid role players which is the ceiling of all of these players.


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Post Subject: RE: Hornets claim Chris Johnson off waivers. Post ID: 614823Posted: Mar 20, 2012 - 12:50 PM PST
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Andrew Goudelock... only youngster that gets run... undersized SG, needs to work on his ball handling skills in the off season

Darius Morris... is going to be a very good point guard one day. I hope we keep him long enough to see it happen.

Devin Ebanks... I think the Lakers should start Barnes and give Ebanks another crack at it and use Artest as a defensive stopper when you need it. I think this team can improve from within. They got to share the ball, ditch pecking order, feed the hot man, run the ball go for easy points if not there then run the offense. Even if you start Artest to keep his motor running pull him early. Barnes is a better fit with the starting 5 at least he can help spread the floor and run out for easy points. Ebanks can then play Barnes roll and run with Sessions and GLock.

Christian Eyenga... He is really athletic but very very raw, might be an unpolished diamond.
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Bishop-Havoc wrote:
Bynum.


yuuup! Bynum is still a baby... 24 years old. Seems like Bynum been around forever. Hasn't reach his prime yet

lol @BH... good answer
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Morris! Please keep him Lakers. He should have stayed in school but be patient, develop him and we won't be disappointed.
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Andrew Goudelock for now.
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To me, Bynum doesn't even count as a "young guy" anymore because even though he's only 24, he's been in the league 7 years and he's an All-Star veteran. Drew is a rising star now, and he's no longer and unproven talent. The dude has game and he's proven that he can be consistent.

So I'm gonna go with Goudelock making the biggest impact out of all our unproven young players in the future.

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I would say Goudelock also, but it sucks that he backs up Kobe who plays way too many minutes. To me I'd take Goudelock over Shannon Brown anyway of the week. Goudelock plays his game and doesn't try to emulate Kobe.

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gemfow,

I agree with you. I'd really love to see what Goudelock could do with 15 to 20 minutes per game CONSISTENTLY. Shannon Brown used to average roughly 20 minutes per game under Phil Jackson and he'd average about 8 points off the bench. In 20 minutes per game, I think Goudelock could average over 10 points and be a real consistent scoring threat for this Laker team.

He's maybe hitting the rookie wall lately, but Mike Brown has gotta show some faith in this kid and play him more minutes. Kobe is playing way too many minutes and it's unnecessary when you have Goudelock available to play.

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Andrew Goudelock seems consistent and looks set to stay as such a good role player. If Darius Morris learns to shoot better he will have the most potential (unfortunately he is not a great 1 guard better as a 2).

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i will go with glock if only he can learn to penetrate on consistent basis and to develop his moves around the basket rather than just making tear drop all the time he will do very good on morris i dont know if he will endup as a good pg who will stay long in this league ive seen him play and i dont see any impact when he is on the court he always tends to dribble and stop dont have any reliable shot either
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trialsNtribulations wrote:
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BINGO! lol

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lakeshowsd wrote:
gemfow,

I agree with you. I'd really love to see what Goudelock could do with 15 to 20 minutes per game CONSISTENTLY. Shannon Brown used to average roughly 20 minutes per game under Phil Jackson and he'd average about 8 points off the bench. In 20 minutes per game, I think Goudelock could average over 10 points and be a real consistent scoring threat for this Laker team.

He's maybe hitting the rookie wall lately, but Mike Brown has gotta show some faith in this kid and play him more minutes. Kobe is playing way too many minutes and it's unnecessary when you have Goudelock available to play.


You would think Goudelock would get some open looks with all the double and triple teams Drew receives while playing with the bench, but guys like Murphy out there don't help.

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when i saw this article i was stoked... i was going to be a smartass... my first thought was i'd say bynum(that would be clever), after bish took it i was gonna take sessions... what can i say... great minds think alike

one great thing that this article shows is that the lakers youth are improving vastly, this time last year we were actually an older team

i feel like with sessions, bynum, glock, ebanks, and morris, enough talent will come out that we will have a solid core for the next 10 years, assuming we can retain the ones who turn out to be good
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pureride214 wrote:
when i saw this article i was stoked... i was going to be a smartass... my first thought was i'd say bynum(that would be clever), after bish took it i was gonna take sessions... what can i say... great minds think alike

one great thing that this article shows is that the lakers youth are improving vastly, this time last year we were actually an older team

i feel like with sessions, bynum, glock, ebanks, and morris, enough talent will come out that we will have a solid core for the next 10 years, assuming we can retain the ones who turn out to be good


did anyone actually read it ?

"choices are Andrew Goudelock,Devin Ebanks,Darius Morris,Christian Eyenga?"
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The question was who is my favorite "young guy" on the Lakers. Bynum In every sense of the word is young. He is a vet, he's still young though. He isn't anywhere near old



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Goudelock by far as a drafted Laker.. he's a solid rotation player and has the chops to make his own points, I like his tear-drop and runner. He will only get better and is a steal @ where we drafted him.

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Bynum, not just my favorite young player but my favorite laker since last season and going forward. I will always be a kobe guy but I can tell right now that kobe is the second best player on our team now. Kobe lays off on defense almost all the time now but when he wants to can play good one on one defense, and I cant take his bad decision making by jacking up shots and not allowing the bigs to get involved, he used to be able to use athleticism to hide his bad decision making because he has always had bad shooting nights from time to time but he would still drive the ball and get to the foul line now he just settles for the insance jump shots that are covered better today by defenders and it hurts to watch when you have a giant seven footer who is scoring at ease.
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D Morris.

His speed, Handles and Shooting is makings of a great PG player when he gains experience
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Ebanks, reminds me of Ariza

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Darius Morris.
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Andrew Goudelock. While he's had a fairly successful rookie campaign, if we can figure out how to use him in position and for more minutes, he is likely to be even more productive. Most Lakers fans like this guy, but I don't think we have a clue just how good he can be as of yet. I'm positive he can be much better.

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Darius Morris, because I am waiting on him to really contribute. Once he calms down and gets his head on straight, I think he will be one of our best acquisitions. As for guys who actually play, I guess Goudelock is my favorite young player. He actually plays and sometimes makes a definite impact.
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Bynum and Sessions.
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will_lakers22 wrote:
Bynum and Sessions.


Them and with Mike Brown's offense system Sessions > Kobe
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I really like Morris and hope we keep him long enough for him to show what he has to offer. I was dissapointed when he started riding the bench Luke Walton style.
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I have high hopes for Darius Morris. He was one of my favorite prospects that I hoped the Lakers would pick up, and they did. His performance during Blake's injury was not too shabby, although it could have been better in many ways. As a rookie playing for the almighty Lakers, I don't blame him. His size, his speed, and his defense (especially against Chris Paul) leave a lot of room to grow. However, his performance far surpasses Steve Blake's production of late. I would not mind it one bit if Sessions became the starter, and Morris backed him up for 15 minutes a night.

Steve Blake has become the new Derek Fisher, and in time, the new Luke Walton.
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Yeah Morris did ok with what he got, it's refreshing to see a ball handling guard who isn't afraid to shoot the ball and take a chance, had it not been for people like Rick Fox, Robert Horry, Derek Fisher and Brian Shaw you wouldn't know what you're getting. Some players take their unselfishness to another level that actually exacerbate the problem not mitigate it. Remember that we're a lower tier scoring team.. any and all scoring from everywhere is acceptable. I would be thrilled if Morris someday soon started making a lemon juice with the time slot he got. I do think Mike often vouches for seniority over actual talent, which can be detrimental.. you gotta allow PG's to compete in a growing field in the NBA.. most backup pg's would start for the Lakers and easily take Blake's minutes away so why can't Sessions who's a consistently good pg? It defeats logic.

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I have high hopes for Darius Morris. He was one of my favorite prospects that I hoped the Lakers would pick up, and they did. His performance during Blake's injury was not too shabby, although it could have been better in many ways. As a rookie playing for the almighty Lakers, I don't blame him. His size, his speed, and his defense (especially against Chris Paul) leave a lot of room to grow. However, his performance far surpasses Steve Blake's production of late. I would not mind it one bit if Sessions became the starter, and Morris backed him up for 15 minutes a night.

Steve Blake has become the new Derek Fisher, and in time, the new Luke Walton.


I know you didnt mean it this way, but Steve Blake has not won 5 championships in purple and gold. He is not an equalvent of Fisher. Steve is starting right now pretty much by default. Everyone knows that in a few games Sessions will be starting(I mean come on, who is on the LTB banner Steve or Ramon?) I have no problem with Morris getting Blake's minutes, in fact I like the idea. The only downside I see to this is that Sessions and Morris are both lightening fast and our starters might have a tough time keeping up with their tempo, that would be the only reason i see to still give blake significant minutes.
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why give blake 25 minutes a game for 2pts 1asst 1reb and 2 to's a game? Morris and glock can do better.
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Kobe..
I saw the word favorite and it doesn't matter what follows..
I choose Kobe..

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cm22 wrote:


I know you didnt mean it this way, but Steve Blake has not won 5 championships in purple and gold. He is not an equalvent of Fisher. Steve is starting right now pretty much by default. Everyone knows that in a few games Sessions will be starting(I mean come on, who is on the LTB banner Steve or Ramon?) I have no problem with Morris getting Blake's minutes, in fact I like the idea. The only downside I see to this is that Sessions and Morris are both lightening fast and our starters might have a tough time keeping up with their tempo, that would be the only reason i see to still give blake significant minutes.


Of course haha. I only meant that he is the new Derek Fisher in the context that fans start to see him as the "useless starting PG". I have tons of respect for the time and effort Derek has given the Lakers, and in that regard, Blake cannot compare.
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Bynum this season, followed closely by Kobe who was number one the last 15 seasons, Sessions, Pau Gasol, andrew goudlock, matt barnes, Metta world peace, Josh Mcroberts, steve blake, Devin Ebanks, Darus morris, Jordan Hill, then.................................Troy Murphy
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Bynum by far.

Not only because of how good he is, but also what he had to overcome to get there. And who the hell knows just how great he may get? Sometimes he looks likes hes just toying with people out there. Its scary.

Sessions. Whats not to love? The anti Derek, lol. Plays fast as lightning, penitrates, makes shots, passes the ball the RIGHT people at the right time. Love him.

Goudelock. He really shows he has worked his game. I love how he plays. Aggressive, tough, not scared. Man I miss watching him play. Come on Brownie!!!

Would like to see some of Ebanks.....

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Eyenga of course.

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glock and ebanks. also would like to see morris, eyenga. i guess i'll have to wait to see these 4 play when we get a good coach or when they get traded, right now i'm stuck watching blake, murphy off the bench. also the sessions trade was a steal.
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Hands down Ebanks. Too bad Mr. Potato head does not play our youth. Thats why I was pulling for adelman to coach this team. Around this time he would be resting our vets and seasoning our youth.
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I'm going with Ramon Sessions; I do hope he continues to work on his defense and mid jumper though.
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i think morris, glock, ebanks, hill could produce if given any kind of minutes
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Glock, if Brown in his finite wisdom would let him get some of Blake's wasted minutes.
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Bishop-Havoc wrote:
Bynum.




Bynum is not a rookie. He has been in the nba seven years now. I think some hear when they say Andrew, they mean Andrew Goudelock.
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