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Post subject: We really need to let these guys grow together!
 Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 09:26 AM PST
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I know a lot of us like to play online GM on here because it's fun, no doubt. However I see a lot of people wanting to offer up Critt or Farmar in trades and I think they're are strengths. As far as guard play goes if you trade one of those guys and then that means we're stuck with somone like Sasha as a guard off the bench who is a good shooter, but nothing more. We have two young, special guards who can actually contribute now in my opinion. If Critt improves from year one to ear two some what like Farmar has, then we're set at guard with Critt and Farmar backing up Fish and Kobe. We all seem to love Ariza who is a good fit for us, Luke seems to be playing better also which is great so we have our 3's. The only thing I'm concerned about is our 4 play, Vlad coming off the bench can't seem to guard either position well(3 or 4) and Odom is playing better so that's good, I hope Turiaf can sustain the type of effort he had agaisnt Philly. Our centers are good, Bynum is getting to the point of possible stardom, and Kwmae can defend any big man in the league in my opinion.
I got a little sidetracked but my point above is to keep our young guards and let them grow with Bynum because they are our future, and that's a scary nucleus...Bynum, Farmar, and Critt. We can end up deing somewhat like Detroit with the vets starting and the young guys playing hard off the bench. I think we're almost there ladies and gentlemen. The Lakers are now blowing out these below 500 teams, which isin't something we were doing last year. |
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Post subject: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 10:28 AM PST
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gemfow wrote:
I know a lot of us like to play online GM on here because it's fun, no doubt. However I see a lot of people wanting to offer up Critt or Farmar in trades and I think they're are strengths. As far as guard play goes if you trade one of those guys and then that means we're stuck with somone like Sasha as a guard off the bench who is a good shooter, but nothing more. We have two young, special guards who can actually contribute now in my opinion. If Critt improves from year one to ear two some what like Farmar has, then we're set at guard with Critt and Farmar backing up Fish and Kobe. We all seem to love Ariza who is a good fit for us, Luke seems to be playing better also which is great so we have our 3's. The only thing I'm concerned about is our 4 play, Vlad coming off the bench can't seem to guard either position well(3 or 4) and Odom is playing better so that's good, I hope Turiaf can sustain the type of effort he had agaisnt Philly. Our centers are good, Bynum is getting to the point of possible stardom, and Kwmae can defend any big man in the league in my opinion.
I got a little sidetracked but my point above is to keep our young guards and let them grow with Bynum because they are our future, and that's a scary nucleus...Bynum, Farmar, and Critt. We can end up deing somewhat like Detroit with the vets starting and the young guys playing hard off the bench. I think we're almost there ladies and gentlemen. The Lakers are now blowing out these below 500 teams, which isin't something we were doing last year.
I agree wiyh everything you say.Bynum,Farmer,and Critt plus Ariza is our future.We need to keep that group of young players together,but I feel mitch is working on something atthe end of the season.We will be good for years to come and maybe even great in a couple of years.we have the most talent on a team.All of the power house teams in the west will be getting older and we will be ready to jump on them like a Tiger on a Rabbit. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 11:46 AM PST
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| Good point toprol. What I've been looking at is the Portland Trailblazers and how they are growing together right before the leagues eyes and playing well. The Trailblazers and the Sonics seem to be pretty bright for the future, and I want the Lakers to be right there also. I think we have a nice blend of vets and youngsters right now, especially if these youngsters keep developing the way that they have been, we'll be in the mix for years to come and still contend. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 02:04 PM PST
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u guys are right
and I hope if we do trades it won't have to involve those guys
Oue future is very bright
Our guards are critt and farmar
And we have bynum as our center and Ariza our small forward
all we need now is a good power forward for our future
even without that power forward we will still be good
critt was ballin yesterday as well as bynum and famar and ariza too
our future is very bright |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 02:13 PM PST
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| Nice post Gem, I'm convinced that the best move we're going to make will be in the off-season. Right now, with this team, I'd say we'd do pretty good in the playoffs, but championship?? I'm on the fence about that one. The young nucleus of players that we have now are showing signs of what they are capable of and maybe next season or the one after, I can honestly say that we will be serious, serious contenders. By that time, Garnett, Duncan and Nash will be a tad slower, Oden, Aldridge will be on the rise and the premier players will be Bynum, Farmar, Critt, Dwight, LBJ, CP3 etc. Shaq will be retired and still claim to be the most dominant center (lol) and kobe will have the right pieces that will win him a title and hopefully MVP. This young core of players we have (with the execption of a couple) are gelling very nicely and with the addition of possibly another star or solid player in the off season, I'd say things are looking pretty good for us. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 04:35 PM PST
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| this team is like a puzzle and every offseason we take a crack at fitting the puzzle together by signing role players and veterans. the lakers did this too back in the days with robert horry fisher shaw harper horace grant eddie jones rick fox ect.. all these guys were in their big puzzle and they signed veterans like grant and role players like horry and fish so all u need really are role players and veterans to win a championship. the longer u keep ur team together without splitting them up the more they grow as a unit and know eachothers ability on and off the court. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 05:38 PM PST
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| I have being saying it since the start of the season to be patient and allow these young team to develope and gel. There is great talent in the Lakers. There are two players that are a bit disappointing (Rad & Sasha) but maybe they will come around because they have shown that they can shoot the lights out on a couple of games, but Rad has really disappointed me. I expected him to be shape all the time, like he was against the Nuggets. And Sasha was really stroking it there for a couple of games, but then on others it seems like he doesn't want to shoot. I don't know if he has been criticized for shooting too much or what, but I have always said that a shooting guard if open should shoot the ball. I am confused with those two players, but I am hoping things will change. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 06:15 PM PST
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| The Future is very bright...Bynum & Turiaf showed what they can do together against Philly...Farmar, J-Crit, & Ariza all put their talents on display...especially J-Crit...that's a very good lineup for the future...we have Kobe as our superstar...Odom as our third option...Fisher as the guy that does all the little things and is everything for this team...what are we missing...a 2nd option...that's where we need Bynum...Bynum needs post moves and a better one-on-one defensive game...he needs defensive awareness...guards and forwards need to be scared to come into the paint and try to get a shot off...centers need to be scared to guard him...when we have that...we will be very good...what we need to do is find the missing piece to the puzzle...the last piece of the puzzle...could it be a simple trade...do we have to wait for one of our young guys to develop into that missing piece...only time will tell... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 07:21 PM PST
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| young jedi's...this is the year 2008...if this was the year 1979..I would agree and say let them grow and become one. In this day and age of the me generation. Everyone is trying to get theirs and do not care about any other thing. Winning has gone by taken second billing to leaving a legacy (whatever that means). MJ brought the mindset that it is all about i in winning. Long and short is that these boys are going to want to get paid and leave for the mighty dollar. So letting this team grow together is not realistic. Plus, it is proven year and year out..you need vets to make it happen... |
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Post subject: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 07:32 PM PST
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toprol wrote:
gemfow wrote:
I know a lot of us like to play online GM on here because it's fun, no doubt. However I see a lot of people wanting to offer up Critt or Farmar in trades and I think they're are strengths. As far as guard play goes if you trade one of those guys and then that means we're stuck with somone like Sasha as a guard off the bench who is a good shooter, but nothing more. We have two young, special guards who can actually contribute now in my opinion. If Critt improves from year one to ear two some what like Farmar has, then we're set at guard with Critt and Farmar backing up Fish and Kobe. We all seem to love Ariza who is a good fit for us, Luke seems to be playing better also which is great so we have our 3's. The only thing I'm concerned about is our 4 play, Vlad coming off the bench can't seem to guard either position well(3 or 4) and Odom is playing better so that's good, I hope Turiaf can sustain the type of effort he had agaisnt Philly. Our centers are good, Bynum is getting to the point of possible stardom, and Kwmae can defend any big man in the league in my opinion.
I got a little sidetracked but my point above is to keep our young guards and let them grow with Bynum because they are our future, and that's a scary nucleus...Bynum, Farmar, and Critt. We can end up deing somewhat like Detroit with the vets starting and the young guys playing hard off the bench. I think we're almost there ladies and gentlemen. The Lakers are now blowing out these below 500 teams, which isin't something we were doing last year.
I agree wiyh everything you say.Bynum,Farmer,and Critt plus Ariza is our future.We need to keep that group of young players together,but I feel mitch is working on something atthe end of the season.We will be good for years to come and maybe even great in a couple of years.we have the most talent on a team.All of the power house teams in the west will be getting older and we will be ready to jump on them like a Tiger on a Rabbit.
If you guys think that keeping them together is going to win us a championship your tripping!!! One maybe two of those guys can help us win by trading for better pieces or fits along with KOBE BRYANT which is still playing for this team. Some members on here have forgotten that we can win now with kobe if we get the right players and can make a run for the next three to five years maybe more if we still have bynum. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 07:34 PM PST
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| you go on with your bas self tokes...listen up to tokes...he knows what he says..say it again tokes. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 08:38 PM PST
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I for one, would rather ride things out with the players we have and let them continue to gel. They've shown what they can do and ala San Antonio, we have some diamonds in the ruff that are coming of age real quick!
Just a thought... Miami wanted to win a championship BAD! They traded for the best center in the game and got their rings, signed him to a long term multi million dollar deal and are stuck at the bottom of the win board with an unhappy player, eating a big contract and no light at the end of the tunnel for the forseeable future!
I'm not saying that J Kidd will be a one ortwo year and done like Shaq but, I'd rather have a squad with a long successful future than mortgage that future for a quick ring and end up back where we were in a couple of years!
The Los Angeles Lakers don't have to win a championship this year but they do need to get back on track as a winning organization who at least make a run for the finals every year.
As Dr. Buss and Mitch Kupcheck have shown us, be patient and things will right themselves in due time and our Lakers are on the verge of being an elite team once again for years to come!
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Post subject: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 09:01 PM PST
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| [quote="tokes81"][quote="toprol"]
gemfow wrote:
If you guys think that keeping them together is going to win us a championship your tripping!!! One maybe two of those guys can help us win by trading for better pieces or fits along with KOBE BRYANT which is still playing for this team. Some members on here have forgotten that we can win now with kobe if we get the right players and can make a run for the next three to five years maybe more if we still have bynum.
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Post subject: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 09:23 PM PST
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| keep in mind folks...theres alot of other teams out there..that are young as well..and will be improving...except..they might have superstart potential players.. 1. Blazers (Roy, Alrdige, Oden) 2. Jazz ( Williams, Boozer) 3. Sonics (Durant, Green)..4. Cleveland (lebron, Gibson)..yes we do have good potential players in Bynum, Farmar, Jcritt....but do you guys really think they are going to be superstars???....Bynum will be solid...and Jcritt might be a star.....But, the point is...theres alot of teams out there..with good potential all-star players...and after this year...there will be more coming from the draft...I mean take Kobe from this team...do you guys honestly think...a future lineup of Bynum, Farmar, Jcritt, Ariza, Turiaf...will win a CHAMPIONSHIP???...were all fooling ourselves if we think that...remember the 90s when we had Van Exel, Jones, Campbell, etc....lots of talent...but never won anything. Our biggest advantage, and asset is and will remain KOBE BRYANT...as long as we have him on the team..we have a chance of winning it all...its just a matter of adding the right role players to complement his game. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow together!
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 10:20 PM PST
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tmendoza27 wrote:
keep in mind folks...theres alot of other teams out there..that are young as well..and will be improving...except..they might have superstart potential players.. 1. Blazers (Roy, Alrdige, Oden) 2. Jazz ( Williams, Boozer) 3. Sonics (Durant, Green)..4. Cleveland (lebron, Gibson)..yes we do have good potential players in Bynum, Farmar, Jcritt....but do you guys really think they are going to be superstars???....Bynum will be solid...and Jcritt might be a star.....But, the point is...theres alot of teams out there..with good potential all-star players...and after this year...there will be more coming from the draft...I mean take Kobe from this team...do you guys honestly think...a future lineup of Bynum, Farmar, Jcritt, Ariza, Turiaf...will win a CHAMPIONSHIP???...were all fooling ourselves if we think that...remember the 90s when we had Van Exel, Jones, Campbell, etc....lots of talent...but never won anything. Our biggest advantage, and asset is and will remain KOBE BRYANT...as long as we have him on the team..we have a chance of winning it all...its just a matter of adding the right role players to complement his game.
wow this guy has no idea what he is talking about, how can u say critt can be a all star and not bynum and jordan farmar i mean common plus what would be wrong with having a starting lineup of jordan, javaris, trevor, ronny, and bynum. besides the blazers can u find a future lineup that better |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: We really need to let these guys grow togeth
Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 11:14 PM PST
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Whatcha talkin about willis??? And your an expert on talent?? Like I said Bynum will be solid..but as far as him,being a dominant center in the league, and when I say dominant...I'm talking about 25pts, 12 rebs...not 15 and 10 which i think he will be that is still debatable...Farmar...will be a solid
guard...but not an all-star or superstar in the league...Jcritt..has the best upsize..because..hes got great one on one skills, and courtside vision. THe problem with you my friend and many here is...that we think just because our young players are having a couple good games...that will translate to superstar #'s in the future. Unless your nostradamus or some Gypsy...no one here knows how good our playes will really be...especially since none of them were drafted in the top5 of any draft. You ask besides Blazers..who has a better future lineup (which I go within a timeframe of 3-5 yrs)...lets see....Jazz ( Williams & Boozer) New Orleans ( Paul & West) Cavs (Lebron, Gibson, Varejao) Sonics (Durant, Green), even Minnesota ( Jefferson & Mccans, Brewer) Orlando (Dhoward & Lewis, Nelson) and lets not forget other teams in the league...who already have good young stars on their team...Toronto (bosh) Chicago (deng, gordon, thomas) Atlanta (jsmith, johnson)....bottom line...is there are a bunch of teams out there who have guys in their squad 25 and under....who are already proven stars...or have the same potential as our team. And in this upcoming draft..there will be plenty of young players coming in the league..with Superstar potential, ex. Beasley, Love, Mayo...etc. SO I'LL ASK YOU THIS QUESTION AGAIN...DO YOU REALLY THINK THE LAKERS WILL WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH ....Bynum, Farmar, Jcritt, Ariza, Turiaf????...against those other teams, who have young stars, and are also improving. Hey I'm a Laker fan...but I'm also not bias to our young talent....the reason we are doing well right now...is because...we still have the GREATEST PLAYER ON THE PLANET. |
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Posted: Jan 06, 2008 - 12:14 AM PST
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Hi guys... Just new here...
What I really want is for them to get Kidd before the trade deadline. They can trade Farmar and Kwame. After that they can sign a free agent (ex. PJ Brown)...
They have a shot to contend if they will be able to bring Jason Kidd now... Look what happen last game against Boston, Kobe had a bad game and no one stepped up. If Kidd was there, then the lakers can still contend even if Kobe had an off night. And with Kidd, you bring in another defensive stopper. Just imagine Kidd driving and either dishing it out to Kobe or Fisher, or dropping a pass to Andrew Bynum, or laying it straight up. Triple Threat....
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Posted: Jan 06, 2008 - 01:01 AM PST
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g-twentyfour wrote:
Hi guys... Just new here...
What I really want is for them to get Kidd before the trade deadline. They can trade Farmar and Kwame. After that they can sign a free agent (ex. PJ Brown)...
They have a shot to contend if they will be able to bring Jason Kidd now... Look what happen last game against Boston, Kobe had a bad game and no one stepped up. If Kidd was there, then the lakers can still contend even if Kobe had an off night. And with Kidd, you bring in another defensive stopper. Just imagine Kidd driving and either dishing it out to Kobe or Fisher, or dropping a pass to Andrew Bynum, or laying it straight up. Triple Threat....
Just my thoughts. [/img]
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