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    Post subject: trade and the move to the championship  PostPosted: Jan 13, 2007 - 01:17 PM PST
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    if we get Cwebb - we release aaron mcKee, and use sign anfernee hardaway and trade vlade radman and chris mihm for a serviceable big man that can rebound. Dale Davis? McDysse? or even trade for D. Fish
     
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    Post subject: RE: trade and the move to the championship  PostPosted: Jun 02, 2007 - 06:08 PM PST
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    c-webb is what we cud have gotten. im hoping for JO
     
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    Post subject: RE: trade and the move to the championship  PostPosted: Jun 02, 2007 - 06:10 PM PST
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    C-Webb is a possiblity but I think he wants to retire in Detroit. Hardaway is retired isn't he? McDysse will ask for the MLE and I'd rather use it on a PG

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    after the way c webb is playing in the playoffs, i think his best days are behind him and wouldnt help that much. i would rather spend the mle on someone younger at positions we need help at like c bell or magloire.

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    Post subject: RE: trade and the move to the championship  PostPosted: Jun 02, 2007 - 06:30 PM PST
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    Cwebb is what JO will be in a caouple years,...except cwebb had a low post game,..Mcdysse,.can et away with bein a bi man in the eastern conference but not in this conference, DUNCAN, MING, ODEN, GASOL, GARNETT, Randolph,..
     
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    i dont agree to that. JO is only 28 and keeps in great shape. thats just not true. and with those players u mentioned in the western conference is exactly the reason why JO would be good for us. he brings a low post presence both offensive and defensively.

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    Post subject: RE: trade and the move to the championship  PostPosted: Jun 02, 2007 - 06:40 PM PST
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    JO has missed 82 games the last two seasons due to injuries, He does not have a low post prsence,..if he did he would be shooting 43 % from the field,....Kwame shot 55 percent,...would JO have been a six time allstar if he were playing in the west,......??
     
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    i think he wouldve been an all star unlike LO. JO had one bad season dude and he had an injury. what about LO and his shoulder? its not like we're paying LO 5 mil a year, he's making 13 mil and has proven that he is unable to be a second option for us.

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    JO,...has never shot over 50 % in hi career,...for A POWER FORWARD,...IN THE WEST IT JUST DOESN;T CUT,.....IN ESSENCE WHT YOU HAVE IS A 6'10 JUMO SHOOTER,...CAN HE CREAT OFF THE DRIBBLE LIKE LAMAR? Can he hit the three like Lamar,.....can he run the fast nrack like lamar? 20 million versus 13 is about 7 million,...what does artesT make, 7 milliom.he's missed 22-33-27 over the last three season due
    injury,..... I just can;t think of a season he's had that is better than KG DIRK DUNCANeach conference only pick three palyers for each position
     
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    dude we're just not going to agree on this topic. u like lamar and i think he's an overrated overpaid slightly above avg player that needs to be just a piece to the puzzle instead of a main piece to a puzzle. he is toni kukoc to me and nothing more. kukoc was a great piece next to mj and pip but if u took one of those players away, he wouldnt have helped chicago take it to the next level either.

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    Good,..point,...The main thing is,..we all want to find Kobe's Pip but Pip is artest and lamar morphed into one,....so getting him both player will in essence give kobe his pippen,....artest and lamar both make what jo makes alone,....
     
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    i know ur a newer member on here so im not sure if u have read older posts but i agree with u. if we can keep lamar and make him the third option believe me i'm all for it. problem is if we need to bring in another big body underneath who can be a low post presence for us, we may not have a choice but to trade lamar. plus i;m really not to big on paying LO 13 mil to be our third option. when his contract is up he would need to take a paycut to remain with the team.

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    I am,...But If we have Bynum and Mihm, Cook ,Turiaf how many more Bigs do we need,...Lamar will take a paycut,... we can alway sign Magloire,..MLE
     
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    well with mihm we dont know whats going to happen with his ankle(keep ghill in mind) cook is a useless big man that cant rebound or play d, turiaf is just a better version of madsen who shouldnt be playing more than 15 minutes a night and with byno we never know. he could turn out to be an all star or he could turn out to be a 10 and 8 guy. i say we need something underneath thats a sure thing.

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    Check this one out,....Just came out of the Lab,....lol Kwame and the this years first along with for Zach randolph, and their second rounder..Takes the Scoring load of Bynum and Mihm,...he only makes about 13-14 mil. and is 26. We pcik for the player they want and then include him in the deal to count the deal against the salaries,..
     
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    if portland recieved a call for that suggestion they would just hang the phone up.

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    ODEN Center lamarcus Alridge PF,..were does randolph fit in,.....look at what's happened to every single jailblazer,..,..Remember Alridge is up an coming,..oden we know what he's going to do,..roy we saw what he can do,....First rounde pick recieve a three year contract..roy can walk after nest season so can alridge anf the come oden,....let's not fotget Jerrat Jack,. after this season,....they will need the cap space for the future,....plus much like artest they are done with him,..as well
     
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    they can get someone better than brown dude, believe me. there was a rumor that they may deal randolph to get rashard lewis in a s/t.

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    That would make alot of sense for the Blazers,..,.expering contract are worth a hella of alot,....I just don't see protland adding more Payroll,..but rashard fits in perfectly to what they have going,...ODEN ALRIDGE and LEWIS,...dang 7'0 7'1 and 6'11 in the front court plus roy in the back court,....
     
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    and radolph would be a good fit in seattle. a froncourt of zach, wilcox, and durant, with allen and ridnour in the backcourt.

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    We better get our sh*t together,..cause the west in gonna be hard,.
     
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    agree there jello. this is the perfect offseason to do it with all the oppurtunities we have.

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    otherwise,...were gonna be in trouble,.....so what do you think of Oden,...is he the real deal>
     
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