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warrenweelim
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Post subject: Lakers, Heat and Warriors ?
 Posted: Dec 13, 2007 - 09:33 AM PST
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As samustudio calls it, I'm the trademeister.
Lakers trade: Lamar Odom
Lakers in: Udonis Haslem, Mickael Pietrus
Warriors out: Al Harrington, Mickael Pietrus
Warriors in: Lamar Odom
Heat out: Udonis Haslem
Heat in: Al Harrington
Using the proposed LA-GSW deal, the Lakers and Warriors try to include Miami in a threesome that benefits all 3 teams.
Lakers get Udonis Haslem - the perfect TRI PF. He has a very good mid-range game too and his defense is stellar. If the Lakers landed Haslem, I'd be jumping all over my room and office.
Miami trades Haslem for a better all around player in Harrington to support Shaq and Wade's cause. Miami has been slumping since last year and I wouldn't be too surprised if they dealt one more time.
JWill / Smush
Wade / Cook
Davis / Wright
Harrington / Blount
Shaq / Zo
Warriors fans are in unison in saying that Harry + Pietrus = Odom is a good deal for them. Odom is a better version of Harrington in Nellie's small ball and he can help their rebounding much. They will still be the lightning-quick organized-chaotic team, much to Nellie's liking. Losing Pietrus means they will have no pressure to re-up him as well. They have Biedrins and Monta Ellis to worry about for the moment and Matt Barnes will have to play exceptional here as well.
Baron / Hudson
Ellis / Belinelli
Jackson / Barnes
Odom / B. Wright
Biedrins / O'Bryant
As for the Lakers getting Pietrus, we add a real player that can play behind Kobe. He is a decent scorer and defender as well but as far as the future goes, we can trade him to Miami or another team depending on how he fits. Worst case scenario, we let him expire at the end of the season as we have another Frenchman to pay more - Ronny Turiaf.
Fish / Farmar / Critt
Kobe / Pietrus / Sasha / Karl
Walton / Ariza
Haslem / Radmanovic / Mihm
Bynum / Turiaf / Kwame
Notice how Mihm becomes the 3rd PF instead of C? Phil's rotation involved Ronny being the NEW backup center to Drew since Kwame is still down.
In terms of Flex, we can now spare Kwame and Sasha's expirings along withCrittenton to be positioned to deal ONE MORE TIME. Not to mention that we cut 3m in payroll if this deal went through, making us now below the cap.
I simply love the flexibility and defensive upgrades this trade brings to LA. |
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gemfow
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Post subject: RE: Lakers, Heat and Warriors ?
Posted: Dec 13, 2007 - 11:40 AM PST
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| I actually think that's a pretty good trade because I do feel that Haslem is a good fit in the triangle, and I'm hoping Ronny can develop into that player with more strength and a more consistent jumper. However I wouldn't want to face Odom because he would cause us matchup problems and he wouldn't have a problem shooting then. |
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Post subject: RE: Lakers, Heat and Warriors ?
Posted: Dec 13, 2007 - 12:11 PM PST
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| I think Lamar is worth more then just a Haslem and Pietrus. I think a combo of Kwame and Critt or a 1st can land us that package. Save Lamar for the likes of Shawn Marion. |
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gemfow
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Post subject: RE: Lakers, Heat and Warriors ?
Posted: Dec 13, 2007 - 02:30 PM PST
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| What's the difference between Marion and Lamar? Oh that's right I remember. More defense for about 6 million more dollars a year. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Lakers, Heat and Warriors ?
Posted: Dec 13, 2007 - 10:07 PM PST
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gemfow wrote:
What's the difference between Marion and Lamar? Oh that's right I remember. More defense for about 6 million more dollars a year.
what are u talking about, saying 6 million dollar difference??? odom makes 13.5 million and marion makes 16 million........THATS 2.5 MILLION not 6 MILLION...next time get ur facts straight buddy |
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samustudio
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Lakers, Heat and Warriors ?
Posted: Dec 13, 2007 - 10:35 PM PST
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homeboy warren...
as we all know now mitch is not as dumb as we think,
and hes been doing a decent job lately!
but you do give it another twist, and it all make sense most of the time...
SERIOUSLY i think the lakers should just hire you as a consultant.
maybe you should send in some of your proposals to their office!?
as always, very good job. i like the trade. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Lakers, Heat and Warriors ?
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 01:01 AM PST
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| at this point, Haslem and Pietrus would do better for us than LO... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Lakers, Heat and Warriors ?
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 01:45 AM PST
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| I like it too Warren- the thing I like is that we get the PF we've needed + a real backup SG that can score. Plus in the end we could have the sign and trade option the Warriors had with Peitrus next year maybe allowing us to package something for a real talent (J.Smith anyone) although I still like Wilcox and Wallyworld this trade would be suitable to me. Nice job! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Lakers, Heat and Warriors ?
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 02:28 AM PST
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I like Wilcox and wally more as well. I agree that this trade helps make our team better, but at the same time I have reservations because we are getting less value for Odom. I think it would be best to weather the storm still. It seems like each day the lakers are more solidified and content well teams around them are crumbling internally and I like it. Teams such as Miami, Memphis, Seattle. Their veterans which don't fit into a team that is rebuilding situation is looking good for us.
All I'm saying is we should cash Lamar or/and Kwame in for pieces that we lack to win a championship when we can trade 50 cents on the dollar. |
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