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Post Subject: Rondo skeptical about the Lakers new line up Post ID: 726056Posted: Aug 31, 2012 - 12:39 PM PST
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Boston guard Rajon Rondo said he expects the Celtics to unseat Miami and win the NBA title in the coming season. The NBA's assist leader last season said he likes Boston's offseason additions.

"I think because we have a talented group of guys... the additions of Courtney Lee, [Jason] Terry and Jeff Green," Rondo said.

"We have high expectations every year... I think we got a lot better than last year."

Rondo didn't talk much about Ray Allen leaving Boston to sign with rivals Miami Heat for less money -- except for saying, "he's fine".

The Celtics guard was somewhat skeptical about the new lineup of another rival team, the L.A. Lakers, who now feature stars Dwight Howard and Steve Nash alongside Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol. Rondo said they've done nothing yet and it's all on paper.

The Celtics All-Star also said he expects to beat Jeremy Lin "pretty badly" when Boston meet Lin's new team, the Houston Rockets, RTHK reports.

Rondo is in Hong Kong for a sponsorship event, and he trained with young players for an hour on Friday morning.

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February 7 is when Boston Celtricks will have a taste of the Lakers.
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Rondo knows the Celtics don't match up well with the Lakers but haters gonna hate.
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I wanted Terry, not sure Green has anything left, Courtney Lee's a good pickup as well, but an aging Garnett and Peirce will make it hard for them to advance past Miami.
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Who isnt skeptical? We have a very talented team especially in our starting 5 but we havent even played a single second together. We shall see when the season comes.

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I am equally skeptical about the Celtics as a team.

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Who isnt skeptical? We have a very talented team especially in our starting 5 but we havent even played a single second together. We shall see when the season comes.


Tons of Laker fans aren't skeptical actually. So many overconfident and cocky young fans are already annointing us champions for the upcoming season and expressing virtually no doubts about the possibility of losing, which is ridiculous when you consider how good some of the opposing teams are. If the Lakers win a title this season, they're gonna have to scrap for it and earn it through blood, sweat, and tears. No sweeps against the league's elite teams, and nothing is gonna come easy for a Lakers bunch that has virtually no chemistry yet and has never played together before.

The last "Super Team" that was assembled and also won the title in their first season together was the 2008 Boston Celtics, and people should remember that their road to the championship was anything but easy. They played two game 7s in rounds 1 and 2 of the playoffs, and it took them 6 games to win the Conferences Finals, and another 6 games in the Finals. They didn't steamroll their way to a title and they had to fight for it every step of the way against steep competition. If the Lakers win it all in 2013, the same will almost certainly be true for them in terms of having a difficult road to the championship. This is especially likely considering that the league is way better now than it was in 2008, and the best teams are now better than they were that year.
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the argument can definitely be made that the lakers will win the title easily, because there isnt one team who matches up well with the lakers, thats all. looking back on past teams is useless btw - its all about this year. if dwight is healthy, back to the old dwight, the lakers have the title in the bag, and if you dont agree, you are underestimating what his impact will be vs teams who have nobody to slow him down
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The road to the championship is going to be anything but easy. You guys are assuming everything goes perfectly for the lakers with the chemistry. The pieces are there, but to assume it's going to come together quickly I think is naive. Kobe has never played with a ball dominating guard like Nash before, so that's going to take some adjusting to. Everyone on the team, from Nash, to Metta, to Kobe, to Pau, to Dwight is going to have to change their game a little. Miami had a super team, and look how much they struggled their first season. Same with Boston when they got KG. Boston had a hard time in the playoffs. It's not going to be a walkover. Not to mention, we don't even know how this group will look running the Princeton offense. It might not go as smoothly as we think.
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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
The road to the championship is going to be anything but easy. You guys are assuming everything goes perfectly for the lakers with the chemistry. The pieces are there, but to assume it's going to come together quickly I think is naive. Kobe has never played with a ball dominating guard like Nash before, so that's going to take some adjusting to. Everyone on the team, from Nash, to Metta, to Kobe, to Pau, to Dwight is going to have to change their game a little. Miami had a super team, and look how much they struggled their first season. Same with Boston when they got KG. Boston had a hard time in the playoffs. It's not going to be a walkover. Not to mention, we don't even know how this group will look running the Princeton offense. It might not go as smoothly as we think.


a super team is not 3 players!no way. 3 players and the rest, all players who dont contribute one bit, and no bigs? definitely not a super team. yall can try to be "realistic" based on previous years, but this team is different, and this team matches up with competition different
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Rondo is delusional. The Celtics can't beat the Heat or the Lakers. Not 100% sure if they can beat the Nets or the Bulls...
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Rondo is delusional. The Celtics can't beat the Heat or the Lakers. Not 100% sure if they can beat the Nets or the Bulls...


well the nets definitely have a more talented squad than them. nets have a pg who can score, a big who will match up just fine with this older KG, joe johnson and paul pierce cancel eachother out, marshon brooks, gerald wallace, dwill and humprhies put them slightly ahead of the Cs,on paper
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the argument can definitely be made that the lakers will win the title easily, because there isnt one team who matches up well with the lakers, thats all. looking back on past teams is useless btw - its all about this year. if dwight is healthy, back to the old dwight, the lakers have the title in the bag, and if you dont agree, you are underestimating what his impact will be vs teams who have nobody to slow him down


I'm fairly certain that if Ibaka and Perkins could shut down Bynum and Gasol, they will also be able to give Howard and Gasol problems. I'm not underestimating the impact of Dwight, but I'm also not overestimating the impact of Dwight. To say Dwight will consistently score 30+ point games against tough, defensive minded NBA teams like OKC or Miami still sounds asinine to me. I'm sure time will prove me to be correct.

I still consider the Lakers among the top 2 or 3 favorites to win the title, but the road to a title is highly unlikely to be easy... even with a 100% healthy Howard. If I'm proven wrong and we sweep the Thunder or Heat in a 7 game series, or defeat them in a decisive 5 games, I'll happily eat crow. I just don't think that'll happen. I have too much respect for the talent level, the athletcism, the depth, the defensive mentality, and the chemistry of last year's NBA Finalists Heat and Thunder.


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Their front line ups in starters and bench are crazy good.
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the argument can definitely be made that the lakers will win the title easily, because there isnt one team who matches up well with the lakers, thats all. looking back on past teams is useless btw - its all about this year. if dwight is healthy, back to the old dwight, the lakers have the title in the bag, and if you dont agree, you are underestimating what his impact will be vs teams who have nobody to slow him down


I'm fairly certain that if Ibaka and Perkins could shut down Bynum and Gasol, they will be able to give Howard and Gasol problems. I'm not underestimating the impact of Dwight, but I'm also not overestimating the impact of Dwight. To say Dwight will consistently score 30+ point games against tough, defensive minded NBA teams like OKC or Miami still sounds asinine to me. I'm sure time will prove me to be correct. I still consider the Lakers among the top 2 or 3 favorites to win the title, but the road to a title is highly unlikely to be easy... even with a 100% healthy Howard.


MIA has the worst frontline in basketball, saying dwight wont dominate them is ridiculous, ur a hater for that. OKCs frontline is formittable vs every team that doesnt have dwight, im not saying dwight will drop 30 on them, thats not why we traded for him, and thats not why we're the favs in the west in most people eyes
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MIA has the worst frontline in basketball, saying dwight wont dominate them is ridiculous, ur a hater for that. OKCs frontline is formittable vs every team that doesnt have dwight, im not saying dwight will drop 30 on them, thats not why we traded for him, and thats not why we're the favs in the west in most people eyes


Nope, I'm not a hater. I'm just showing proper respect for the defending Champion Heat. Any team with Chris Bosh on the front line is by default never going to be the league's worst front line. If you really believe Miami's front line is the worst in the league, then I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. Haslem is a SOLID veteran big with 2 rings and a lot left in the tank. Bosh is a legit All-Star and has had numerous good games VS Dwight Howard in the past. There's no way Miami has the worst front line in basketball and it's ridiculous to say such a thing. Just with Bosh at center and Haslem at PF, they could match up better than most teams can VS Howard and Gasol. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Lebron could guard Gasol.

Here's how Miami can matchup with our starting 5

Bosh VS Howard
James VS Gasol
Battier VS MWP
Wade VS Bryant
Chalmers VS Nash

On paper, that starting lineup from the Heat would actually matchup fairly well against the Lakers in a 7 game series. JMHO.


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lakeshowsd wrote:
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MIA has the worst frontline in basketball, saying dwight wont dominate them is ridiculous, ur a hater for that. OKCs frontline is formittable vs every team that doesnt have dwight, im not saying dwight will drop 30 on them, thats not why we traded for him, and thats not why we're the favs in the west in most people eyes


Nope, I'm not a hater. I'm just showing proper respect for the defending Champion Heat. Any team with Chris Bosh on the front line is by default never going to be the league's worst front line. If you really believe Miami's front line is the worst in the league, then I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. Haslem is a SOLID veteran big with 2 rings and a lot left in the tank. Bosh is a legit All-Star and has had numerous good games VS Dwight Howard in the past. There's no way Miami has the worst front line in basketball and it's ridiculous to say such a thing.


no. bosh is cannot get one rebound 1 on 1 vs dwight, nobody on the HEAT can, dobody in the league can, and that is the reason why we will win the ring. that plus dwight notoriously makes his teams D top 3! bosh doesnt rebound man and hes weak, the heats frontline will matchup horribly vs us
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MIA has the worst frontline in basketball, saying dwight wont dominate them is ridiculous, ur a hater for that. OKCs frontline is formittable vs every team that doesnt have dwight, im not saying dwight will drop 30 on them, thats not why we traded for him, and thats not why we're the favs in the west in most people eyes


Nope, I'm not a hater. I'm just showing proper respect for the defending Champion Heat. Any team with Chris Bosh on the front line is by default never going to be the league's worst front line. If you really believe Miami's front line is the worst in the league, then I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. Haslem is a SOLID veteran big with 2 rings and a lot left in the tank. Bosh is a legit All-Star and has had numerous good games VS Dwight Howard in the past. There's no way Miami has the worst front line in basketball and it's ridiculous to say such a thing.


no. bosh is cannot get one rebound 1 on 1 vs dwight, nobody on the HEAT can, dobody in the league can, and that is the reason why we will win the ring. that plus dwight notoriously makes his teams D top 3! bosh doesnt rebound man and hes weak, the heats frontline will matchup horribly vs us


Whatever. If you want to have that level of disrespect for Bosh, then I just can't agree with you. He's a very talented 6'11" big who can play the game on both ends.

Honestly, even Lebron can defend in the post at the power forward position and he can definitely defend Gasol if Pau is pushed out to the perimeter due to the presence of Howard in the paint.

Here's how Miami can matchup with our starting 5

Bosh VS Howard
James VS Gasol
Battier VS MWP
Wade VS Bryant
Chalmers VS Nash

On paper, that starting lineup from the Heat would actually matchup fairly well against the Lakers in a 7 game series. JMHO.
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we have such an inside adv on the boards its ridiculous. in the first 3 rounds of the playoffs Bosh avg 6.5 rbs , in the finals, only 9, against no 7footers in the finals. our two 7 footers, and dwight especially can take Bosh's rpg avg down to what it was in the first 3 rounds of last years playoffs..

i had more respect for Bosh's rebounding before i looked at the stats, 8 rpg last season, 6.5 avg during the first 3 rounds of the playoffs. ur argument should end,now
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we have such an inside adv on the boards its ridiculous. in the first 3 rounds of the playoffs Bosh avg 6.5 rbs , in the finals, only 9, against no 7footers in the finals. our two 7 footers, and dwight especially can take Bosh's rpg avg down to what it was in the first 3 rounds of last years playoffs..

i had more respect for Bosh's rebounding before i looked at the stats, 8 rpg last season, 6.5 avg during the first 3 rounds of the playoffs. ur argument should end,now


No, it doesn't end. Bosh was playing hurt in playoffs and barely came back in time for the Finals, where he stepped up his presence on the boards, averaging 9 and a half per game. If Healthy, Bosh will get his fair share of rebounds VS the Lakers.

The rebounding situation VS Miami is not as cut and dry as you would have us all believe. It's imporant to remember that while Miami was only a mediocre team in terms of rebounding last season, they were the best team in the NBA at reducing opposing team's rebounds per game. That means that no team in the NBA held opposing teams to less rebounds per game than Miami. It's a fact. Look it up.
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haha, good old LSD, trying to rain on everybody's parade. Our Lakers are a nightmare or should I say Dwightmare matchup for Miami.

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ok i forgot he was hurt, but 7 rpg in the first round and 8 rpg in the season, how do u have more confidence in that than in dwight. ur fighting for something that isnt there,for another team, when dwight has 20 rebound nights all the time, and hes a laker now! cmon
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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
The road to the championship is going to be anything but easy. You guys are assuming everything goes perfectly for the lakers with the chemistry. The pieces are there, but to assume it's going to come together quickly I think is naive. Kobe has never played with a ball dominating guard like Nash before, so that's going to take some adjusting to. Everyone on the team, from Nash, to Metta, to Kobe, to Pau, to Dwight is going to have to change their game a little. Miami had a super team, and look how much they struggled their first season. Same with Boston when they got KG. Boston had a hard time in the playoffs. It's not going to be a walkover. Not to mention, we don't even know how this group will look running the Princeton offense. It might not go as smoothly as we think.




Boston still won it the year they formed their big 3.
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Boston still won it the year they formed their big 3.


Agreed, winning is winning period. Very Happy

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The Lakers clearly have the strongest starting lineup right now.
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Hey, I"ll be the first one to admit that the Lakers have by far the most imposing front line in the game of basketball. It's downright scary and we have every reason to be confident. I'm just not willing to say ridiculous things about the competition. I acknowledge Miami for the solid big men they have, and I do the same for OKC. It's not like every big man on OKC and Miami is a f**king bum, and so I'm not gonna pretend like they are.

Those teams are as great and successful as they are for a reason, and their front lines are part of the reason why they're great teams. I'm not trying to say that the Lakers' front line isn't the best in the game because it is, but I just don't share the opinion that our front line is just going to steamroll the competition in Miami and OKC. Those teams are just too good defensively to allow such a thing to happen. Adjustments will be made and any series VS OKC or Miami is going to be hard fought. Period. It's called having respect for the opposition and the lack of respect is an issue that some of you seem to have, sadly.
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The road to the championship is going to be anything but easy. You guys are assuming everything goes perfectly for the lakers with the chemistry. The pieces are there, but to assume it's going to come together quickly I think is naive. Kobe has never played with a ball dominating guard like Nash before, so that's going to take some adjusting to. Everyone on the team, from Nash, to Metta, to Kobe, to Pau, to Dwight is going to have to change their game a little. Miami had a super team, and look how much they struggled their first season. Same with Boston when they got KG. Boston had a hard time in the playoffs. It's not going to be a walkover. Not to mention, we don't even know how this group will look running the Princeton offense. It might not go as smoothly as we think.




Boston still won it the year they formed their big 3.


I didn't say they didn't win it, I just said they had a hard time getting there, which they did. Several of their playoff series went to Game 7's. And I don't think it will be any different for the lakers. I just don't agree with ShouldbeGM's assessment that it will be a cakewalk to win the title. I think it will be a tough road.
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u over respect them, i go by the numbers. the last two seasons vs MIA ,dwight has had two 18 rebound games, a 25 rebound game, and a 24 rebound game, and theyve only played 7 times, with dwight being hurt and in foul trouble in other games vs them. ill give u OKC has a frontline that could keep dwight to his avg 15/16 rebounds,possibly. but MIA has no1 for you to be confident in.
for now, you are no more right than me, to be over or under confident, we're at opposite ends of the spectrum, neither is more realistic right now
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Tailspin wrote:
haha, good old LSD, trying to rain on everybody's parade. Our Lakers are a nightmare or should I say Dwightmare matchup for Miami.


You guys need to stop jumping all on LSD and giving him all this crap, and actually, if you think about it, all of you guys doing this is technically a collective form of bullying towards him, because he never technically said anything to any specific person, you guys just ganged up on him.

He's right by the way, you guys cannot just expect a championship with this team. It's very disrespectful to all the other teams in the league and you all should be ashamed, for real. Imagine you having a job and someone tells you "Hey sorry, but they're going to give your job to him", even though you've been working there for a few years, had done a good job, and hadn't done anything to make them think that you haven't. Wouldn't you feel offended if that happened? C'mon people, show some respect to OKC and Miami, the only 2 teams that made the NBA Finals last season, not the Lakers, who didn't even make it to the Conference Finals.

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Mamba1024 wrote:
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haha, good old LSD, trying to rain on everybody's parade. Our Lakers are a nightmare or should I say Dwightmare matchup for Miami.


You guys need to stop jumping all on LSD and giving him all this crap, and actually, if you think about it, all of you guys doing this is technically a collective form of bullying towards him, because he never technically said anything to any specific person, you guys just ganged up on him.

He's right by the way, you guys cannot just expect a championship with this team. It's very disrespectful to all the other teams in the league and you all should be ashamed, for real. Imagine you having a job and someone tells you "Hey sorry, but they're going to give your job to him", even though you've been working there for a few years, had done a good job, and hadn't done anything to make them think that you haven't. Wouldn't you feel offended if that happened? C'mon people, show some respect to OKC and Miami, the only 2 teams that made the NBA Finals last season, not the Lakers, who didn't even make it to the Conference Finals.


last season is last season, the lakers are a completely different team now, with the best roster in the NBA, and the most dominant force in the NBA -dwight
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a great way to tie the Celtics and Lead the next season on championships is by Playing LAL-BOS back to back thats gonna be some crazyyy rivalrly lol
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haha, good old LSD, trying to rain on everybody's parade. Our Lakers are a nightmare or should I say Dwightmare matchup for Miami.


You guys need to stop jumping all on LSD and giving him all this crap, and actually, if you think about it, all of you guys doing this is technically a collective form of bullying towards him, because he never technically said anything to any specific person, you guys just ganged up on him.

He's right by the way, you guys cannot just expect a championship with this team. It's very disrespectful to all the other teams in the league and you all should be ashamed, for real. Imagine you having a job and someone tells you "Hey sorry, but they're going to give your job to him", even though you've been working there for a few years, had done a good job, and hadn't done anything to make them think that you haven't. Wouldn't you feel offended if that happened? C'mon people, show some respect to OKC and Miami, the only 2 teams that made the NBA Finals last season, not the Lakers, who didn't even make it to the Conference Finals.


last season is last season, the lakers are a completely different team now, with the best roster in the NBA, and the most dominant force in the NBA -dwight


I know, I'm just saying to not disrespect the Thunder and Miami like that is all. You can have confidence in your team, but saying that they're going to steamroll past all teams like a bulldozer running over a meadow of sunflowers is being very disrespectful to the other teams in the league.

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the fact that i am thinking this is no problem,imo its what us laker fans should do,with all the stats out there in our favor, BUT the fact that the lakers arent thinking how im thinking, just adds to my confidence!hahaha. ya dig
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shouldbeGM wrote:
u over respect them, i go by the numbers. the last two seasons vs MIA ,dwight has had two 18 rebound games, a 25 rebound game, and a 24 rebound game, and theyve only played 7 times, with dwight being hurt and in foul trouble in other games vs them. ill give u OKC has a frontline that could keep dwight to his avg 15/16 rebounds,possibly. but MIA has no1 for you to be confident in.
for now, you are no more right than me, to be over or under confident, we're at opposite ends of the spectrum, neither is more realistic right now


Underconfident? No way. Underconfident would be like saying the Lakers are gonna lose, or can't beat OKC and Miami. I'm nowhere near that opinion. I'm still saying we can beat those teams, but it's not showing lack of confidence to believe it won't be easy. It's just called be realistic.
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shouldbeGM wrote:
Mamba1024 wrote:
Tailspin wrote:
haha, good old LSD, trying to rain on everybody's parade. Our Lakers are a nightmare or should I say Dwightmare matchup for Miami.


You guys need to stop jumping all on LSD and giving him all this crap, and actually, if you think about it, all of you guys doing this is technically a collective form of bullying towards him, because he never technically said anything to any specific person, you guys just ganged up on him.

He's right by the way, you guys cannot just expect a championship with this team. It's very disrespectful to all the other teams in the league and you all should be ashamed, for real. Imagine you having a job and someone tells you "Hey sorry, but they're going to give your job to him", even though you've been working there for a few years, had done a good job, and hadn't done anything to make them think that you haven't. Wouldn't you feel offended if that happened? C'mon people, show some respect to OKC and Miami, the only 2 teams that made the NBA Finals last season, not the Lakers, who didn't even make it to the Conference Finals.


last season is last season, the lakers are a completely different team now, with the best roster in the NBA, and the most dominant force in the NBA -dwight


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the fact that i am thinking this is no problem,imo its what us laker fans should do,with all the stats out there in our favor, BUT the fact that the lakers arent thinking how im thinking, just adds to my confidence!hahaha. ya dig


Hmm well that's your opinion lol, all I'm saying is that if our little 03-04 experiment was any indication, we cannot simply expect the best result, which is the championship. I love your confidence and excited ness in our team, don't get it wrong, but what I'm saying is to tone it down a little bit and understand that other Laker fans still have some doubts about whether or not the Lakers can win it all, which doesn't make them any less of a fan of the Lakers as you or any other Laker fan who thinks this year is going to be easy for us.

Also before you say "You're too old to understand", yeah I just turned 18 this summer so don't worry I "dig" what you're saying d@wg, f0 $h1zz13

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Do some of you guys forget that Miami has Lebron James, BY FAR, the best player in the game right now, a top 2 sg in Wade, an all star big man in Bosh and an absolutely perfect group of guys to complement that big three? Plus, they already have plenty of chemistry between them and they've already been through a lot of wars together. It's just completely astonishing and ridiculous that you think the Lakers will just walk all over them... I'll tell you one thing, if the Lakers' players were dumb enough to play them with that mentality that it'll just be a walk in the park to beat them, then the Heat would be the ones cruising by the Lakers, not the other way around.
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Mamba1024 wrote:
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the fact that i am thinking this is no problem,imo its what us laker fans should do,with all the stats out there in our favor, BUT the fact that the lakers arent thinking how im thinking, just adds to my confidence!hahaha. ya dig


Hmm well that's your opinion lol, all I'm saying is that if our little 03-04 experiment was any indication, we cannot simply expect the best result, which is the championship. I love your confidence and excited ness in our team, don't get it wrong, but what I'm saying is to tone it down a little bit and understand that other Laker fans still have some doubts about whether or not the Lakers can win it all, which doesn't make them any less of a fan of the Lakers as you or any other Laker fan who thinks this year is going to be easy for us.

Also before you say "You're too old to understand", yeah I just turned 18 this summer so don't worry I "dig" what you're saying d@wg, f0 $h1zz13


You cannot even begin to compare this team to the 03-04 team. That team had some serious issues on and off court. This team does not have two superstars who are absolutely sick of each other.
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The road to the championship is going to be anything but easy. You guys are assuming everything goes perfectly for the lakers with the chemistry. The pieces are there, but to assume it's going to come together quickly I think is naive. Kobe has never played with a ball dominating guard like Nash before, so that's going to take some adjusting to. Everyone on the team, from Nash, to Metta, to Kobe, to Pau, to Dwight is going to have to change their game a little. Miami had a super team, and look how much they struggled their first season. Same with Boston when they got KG. Boston had a hard time in the playoffs. It's not going to be a walkover. Not to mention, we don't even know how this group will look running the Princeton offense. It might not go as smoothly as we think.







Boston still won it the year they formed their big 3.


I didn't say they didn't win it, I just said they had a hard time getting there, which they did. Several of their playoff series went to Game 7's. And I don't think it will be any different for the lakers. I just don't agree with ShouldbeGM's assessment that it will be a cakewalk to win the title. I think it will be a tough road.


ok sorry i had tunnel vision. your right. I dont doubt that one bit. It will be tough. Im confident lakers will win but im not guaranteeing anything if that makes sense
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Mamba1024 wrote:
shouldbeGM wrote:
the fact that i am thinking this is no problem,imo its what us laker fans should do,with all the stats out there in our favor, BUT the fact that the lakers arent thinking how im thinking, just adds to my confidence!hahaha. ya dig


Hmm well that's your opinion lol, all I'm saying is that if our little 03-04 experiment was any indication, we cannot simply expect the best result, which is the championship. I love your confidence and excited ness in our team, don't get it wrong, but what I'm saying is to tone it down a little bit and understand that other Laker fans still have some doubts about whether or not the Lakers can win it all, which doesn't make them any less of a fan of the Lakers as you or any other Laker fan who thinks this year is going to be easy for us.

Also before you say "You're too old to understand", yeah I just turned 18 this summer so don't worry I "dig" what you're saying d@wg, f0 $h1zz13


03-04 was no indication. the players we have now are better, and we're deeper, also our competition is less ept to beat us.. and this whole site is opinion btw,except the facts that i base my opinions off
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Do some of you guys forget that Miami has Lebron James, BY FAR, the best player in the game right now, a top 2 sg in Wade, an all star big man in Bosh and an absolutely perfect group of guys to complement that big three? Plus, they already have plenty of chemistry between them and they've already been through a lot of wars together. It's just completely astonishing and ridiculous that you think the Lakers will just walk all over them... I'll tell you one thing, if the Lakers' players were dumb enough to play them with that mentality that it'll just be a walk in the park to beat them, then the Heat would be the ones cruising by the Lakers, not the other way around.


dwight is the biggest adv in the league. he will slow lebron and dwade down, this is proven by making his magic teams top 3 in D ,continuously. he will also dominate the boards, dominate the boards/paint, win the game. MIA is too weak inside to beat us
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The one thing we have to realize, is that the Howard -Nash match-up is pretty tough for any opponent! Yes, Miami has LBJ, but that is really the only match up they can expose!

In my opinion the Lakers win four out of the five on personal match ups!

In my opinion the Thunder have a harder match up for the Lakers then the Miami Heat.
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I thought the C's had an excellent draft and will be at least semi-intrigued how both Melo and Sullinger will work out. I think they're both close to NBA ready and can contribute at a high level. If he heals from his previous injury Sullinger could be the steal of the draft for going at that low of a position. Both guys are likely to fit in well with the blue-collar, hard work, defense-oriented Boston Celtics basketball culture.

I have a lot of respect for the process of developing a team too. The Lakers really should not be considered the #1 favorite to win a ring even though they will be on everyone's radar. Of course our Lakers have a shot, but they are going to need time to gel and play like a championship team together. Given time, I expect that to happen, but stranger things have happened quite often. They could possibly struggle and media scrutiny will be very heavy. Immediate fan expectations could actually be a problem if the team doesn't look all that great from the very start. The team should be prepared to face a lot of criticism. Even though they're veteran players, both Nash and Howard are likely to be mildly shocked at how much more attention the Lakers get than any other team in the league. That's something they'll have to get used to in a hurry.

As just a final comment: do we really care what any of the players from other teams have to say about the Lakers? Face it, none of them are going to dish out overwhelming compliments, no matter what they are really thinking inside. The pattern of statements is pretty clear and is not going to change.

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Rondo is delusional. The Celtics can't beat the Heat or the Lakers. Not 100% sure if they can beat the Nets or the Bulls...


True --- but what is Rondo supposed to say? Maybe: "The Celtics our playing this season for mid-seed in the playoffs and, if lucky, might make it as far as the Eastern Finals before losing to the reigning champions." Doesn't quite work.

Although Rondo is a decent PG, he needs to improve his shooting. KG isn't what he used to be, Ray Allen isn't where he used to be, and Pierce is a pretender. If Rondo doesn't want to watch the NBA finals on TV, he better buy a ticket.
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The Celtics would never have got anywhere near the EC finals had they not played teams that had injuries to key players. Rondo's a joke or smoking some bad drugs!
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MAP1 wrote:
The one thing we have to realize, is that the Howard -Nash match-up is pretty tough for any opponent! Yes, Miami has LBJ, but that is really the only match up they can expose!

In my opinion the Lakers win four out of the five on personal match ups!

In my opinion the Thunder have a harder match up for the Lakers then the Miami Heat.


Man I agree 100% Miami does not really match up well against the Lakers I think OKC and Denver will be our biggest headaches. People are really sleeping on Denver.
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In a way, Rondo is absolutely right. This team has yet to step foot on the court and no one knows exactly how they will fare on the court. Everything until then is on 'paper'.

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the argument can definitely be made that the lakers will win the title easily, because there isnt one team who matches up well with the lakers, thats all. looking back on past teams is useless btw - its all about this year. if dwight is healthy, back to the old dwight, the lakers have the title in the bag, and if you dont agree, you are underestimating what his impact will be vs teams who have nobody to slow him down


I'm fairly certain that if Ibaka and Perkins could shut down Bynum and Gasol, they will also be able to give Howard and Gasol problems. I'm not underestimating the impact of Dwight, but I'm also not overestimating the impact of Dwight. To say Dwight will consistently score 30+ point games against tough, defensive minded NBA teams like OKC or Miami still sounds asinine to me. I'm sure time will prove me to be correct.

I still consider the Lakers among the top 2 or 3 favorites to win the title, but the road to a title is highly unlikely to be easy... even with a 100% healthy Howard. If I'm proven wrong and we sweep the Thunder or Heat in a 7 game series, or defeat them in a decisive 5 games, I'll happily eat crow. I just don't think that'll happen. I have too much respect for the talent level, the athletcism, the depth, the defensive mentality, and the chemistry of last year's NBA Finalists Heat and Thunder.


I disagree Andrew didn't consistantly bring the effort , and was slow footed and handled the double teams about as poor as it gets. Now am I saying dwight is going to beast them and average 30-20, no but he will do much much better if not for the reason we have a pg who can create easy buckets for him that we didn't have last year. And I see the chemistry between pau and dwight much better he isnt quite the black hole Andrew is, he likes to pass out and repost and stuff and I think him and pau are goimg to work real well together. Also the spacing will be much better because nash is a 3 pt stud and hopefully metta comes in drinin 3s!
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Rondo is correct, it is all on paper only at this time but the same goes for the Celtics. When the season starts we will see who is real and who is not and I suspect that the Lakers will field a very powerful team against the bean town bigmouths. Lets get it on.

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