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Post Subject: What happened to Josh Smith for Pau Gasol talks?
 Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 07:02 PM PST
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| I remember reading shortly before the NBA draft about Atlanta possibly being interested in swapping Josh Smith for Pau gasol, but then the idea seemed to die down. I think it would be a winning move for the Lakers, and would probably give them a much needed boost deffensively, and if the Hawks were interested in such a trade I can't understand why the FO of LA would be hesitant on making it happen. |
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Post Subject: RE: What happened to Josh Smith for Pau Gasol talks?
Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 07:17 PM PST
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| Hawks are starting over by getting rid of JJ. If they kept him maybe they swap. |
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Post Subject: RE: What happened to Josh Smith for Pau Gasol talks?
Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 07:38 PM PST
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| Atlanta is trying to clear cap space so that trade wont happen. I heard their gonna try to go after Howard & CP3 next summer. |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 08:10 PM PST
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The Lakers are in "win now" mode. That can not be emphasized enough. If the Lakers crap out again next year, they are done. The Pacific division will belong to the Clippers, Warriors, and Kings.
Even if the Lakers do manage to win, which is very unlikely... it will be one and done. Much like what the Mavericks managed to accomplish. That said, this trade intrigues me.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7sfgxvx
This is very appealing to Atlanta for a few reasons. One, Danny Ferry wants to clear the books. Al Horford is due roughly 56mil over the next 4 seasons. That is a lot to commit to an undersized center with average rebounding abilities. By acquiring Bynum, the Hawks gain a true center (with bird rights) that is young enough to build the franchise around. Bynum is a huge upgrade. With so much cap room available next summer, the Hawks can, should, and will offer him more than any other team.
To entice the Lakers into giving up such a disparity in talent, they have to surrender the expiring contract of Josh Smith. That's a lot better than getting nothing for him. Though a 3rd team might have the pony up draft picks.
That's my ideal/realistic trade idea. Pau moves to center where he is most effective, we gain quickness and athleticism with Josh Smith, and imperative depth with Al Horford. If Blake gets shipped out, even better! |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 08:19 PM PST
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the reason is both sides dont want that player from the other team anymore. the lakers think Pau and Nash in the pick n roll and pick n pop will be better than Nash and amare were bcuz of Paus size. Paus 7'1 and has longer arms than amare,making him like 7inches more of a target in the pick n roll and pau is also a rly good mid range shooter for the pick n pop. when bynum leaves hits the bench the offense will run thru nash and pau,pau will have a much better year than last bcuz its recognized he needs more post touches and steve nash and him in the pick n roll will be legendary.
and on the other hand, the hawks rather have josh smith i think,i understand both sides, smith and teague are runnners.. |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2012 - 11:24 AM PST
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| dont know if that trade really had enough leg. |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2012 - 02:27 PM PST
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| Lakers probably declined because that would be a terrible trade... |
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| Well the Atlanta Hawks said that Mitch wanted Jeff Teague & Josh Smith for Pau Gasol so the Hawks declined the trade because Mitch was asking for to much I guess. |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2012 - 02:32 PM PST
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| Pass, Pau will play better with Nash! They can keep Josh Smith. |
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NBA Rumors: Los Angeles Lakers Looking to Trade for Josh Smith?
The Los Angeles Lakers positioned themselves as title contenders with the acquisition of All-Star center Dwight Howard last week. Along with the addition of Steve Nash, Los Angeles has had a successful offseason, to say the least. However, could there be another deal on the horizon?
The Lakers have tried to move Pau Gasol in several deals, but the veteran forward ultimately was left out of the blockbuster deal that sent Howard to L.A. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that a trade had been in the works to send Gasol to the Atlanta Hawks for Josh Smith, who has voiced his desire to be moved several times. The deal fell through when the Lakers were said to want another quality player in addition to Smith.
A Smith for Gasol swap makes sense for both teams. With Smith potentially leaving in free agency next year, the Hawks will look to get some value back before he walks. Gasol is a proven, quality big man, and would be good value for a potential rental of Smith. Many teams will be reluctant to take on Smith with the fear of him leaving for nothing, so receiving Gasol back may be the best package they can receive.
For the Lakers, the deal makes sense on multiple fronts. With Kobe Bryant, Nash and Gasol, Los Angeles is one of the oldest teams in the league. With Howard reopening the championship window, the Lakers could be looking to secure more pieces for the future, and Smith is only 26 years old. Smith and Howard are also said to be friends, which could help secure new deals with both players should Smith be traded to the Lakers. A frontcourt tandem of Smith and Howard would be one of the most defensively dominant duos in NBA history. While Gasol’s outside touch may be a better fit offensively, the defensive combination is hard to resist.
The Lakers have already positioned themselves for the present, but securing Smith would potentially set Los Angeles for the foreseeable future as well.
Zach Mink covers the NBA for Rant Sports. Follow him on Twitter at @zachmink12 for more news and analysis.
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Posted: Aug 17, 2012 - 09:44 PM PST
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| imagine nash on the fast break with Jsmith and d12 running with him??? damn....thats all i have to say. |
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renteria24 wrote:
imagine nash on the fast break with Jsmith and d12 running with him??? damn....thats all i have to say.
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| Honestly I love Pau, but the hawks have 3 point guards that would be great backing up Nash (Lou Williams, Jeff Teague, and Devin Harris) Lets say we were able to get Devin Harris and Josh Smith for Gasol and Blake???? The money matches up and it could be done a month before the season starts. |
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renteria24 wrote:
imagine nash on the fast break with Jsmith and d12 running with him??? damn....thats all i have to say.
What about the defensive upgrade... that would be the biggest difference |
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Posted: Aug 17, 2012 - 10:02 PM PST
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Laker_Fan4Life wrote:
renteria24 wrote:
imagine nash on the fast break with Jsmith and d12 running with him??? damn....thats all i have to say.
What about the defensive upgrade... that would be the biggest difference
I should have added that too. Our defense would be insane. block party all day |
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| ^^^ We could literally turn every team we face into a jump shooting team and "shut down the lanes" |
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Keeping PAU is tempting with Nash on board ... But Smith makes us a more athletic team and better defensively
I wouldn't be mad if it happened and I wouldn't be made if it didn't happen |
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| Lets be clear though.... the only way its a good move is if along with the J. Smoove, Gasol swap we get at least 1 of those three pg's they got over there AND get rid of Blake in the process. Thats the only way cause Pau is still capable of playing at an incredibly high level |
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Pua won two titles (and was robbed of a third, but that is another discussion.) Josh Smith has won ZERO. Yes, ZERO. Nada. None.
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| IF this trade is ever given to Mitch then this is another he should go after. Howard and Smith in the low post is scary for teams like the heat and thunder and the other teams who love to attack the paint. Not only that we get younger. With Kobe possibly retireing after his contract this team will still have 2 great players. Remember Lebron has a player option in the summer of 2014. That would be a dangerous front court with those 3. |
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BaadMaster wrote:
Pua won two titles (and was robbed of a third, but that is another discussion.) Josh Smith has won ZERO. Yes, ZERO. Nada. None.
'Nuff siad.
LOL i love your points on Pau,but come on really?Josh Smith played for the stinky Hawks LOL HA HA HA HA.Pau is my guy though.Keep Pau for me. |
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Katie wrote:
BaadMaster wrote:
Pua won two titles (and was robbed of a third, but that is another discussion.) Josh Smith has won ZERO. Yes, ZERO. Nada. None.
'Nuff siad.
LOL i love your points on Pau,but come on really?Josh Smith played for the stinky Hawks LOL HA HA HA HA.Pau is my guy though.Keep Pau for me.
exactly. swap pau for smith on that hawks team and let's see how many rings he wins. |
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BaadMaster wrote:
Pua won two titles (and was robbed of a third, but that is another discussion.) Josh Smith has won ZERO. Yes, ZERO. Nada. None.
'Nuff siad.
What kind of arguement is this. Dwight didnt have no ring, Nash dosent have a ring. Hell Pau had no rings when he was traded here. Just because J.Smith dosent have any rings dosent mean teams dont want him. Your arguement is meaningless. Come on. Besides look at who Pau was teamed with when he won those titles. Kobe in his prime. |
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CALIGUY23 wrote:
BaadMaster wrote:
Pua won two titles (and was robbed of a third, but that is another discussion.) Josh Smith has won ZERO. Yes, ZERO. Nada. None.
'Nuff siad.
What kind of arguement is this. Dwight didnt have no ring, Nash dosent have a ring. Hell Pau had no rings when he was traded here. Just because J.Smith dosent have any rings dosent mean teams dont want him. Your arguement is meaningless. Come on. Besides look at who Pau was teamed with when he won those titles. Kobe in his prime.
kobe was passed his prime, he turned me off from the team back then too. im still in love with the kobe in his prime, so when a imposter kobe appears, i must call him out.. ... |
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TERRY-TEAGLE wrote:
This video has made me an advocate. And he hasnt even entered his prime yet... his production will continue to be at a high level well after the trade and well after father time catches up to Gasol's production. Good move for now; Good move for later. |
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| Not happening. |
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| Floor spacing would be worse with Josh Smith, with a jumper more inconsistent than Gasol's. Pass on Smith. |
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Floor spacing would be worse with Josh Smith, with a jumper more inconsistent than Gasol's. Pass on Smith.
He would help our transition offense, transition defense, halfcourt defense, and he is an excellent ball handler and passer. His speed and athleticism would help us against our biggest threats OKC and MIA these are facts. Pau will never get any better in these aspects because its Smith's athleticism that makes it happen, however jump shots can be improved. And lets not act like Pau's mid range game is THAT much better than J. Smoove's
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Laker_Fan4Life wrote:
thatguyoverthere wrote:
Floor spacing would be worse with Josh Smith, with a jumper more inconsistent than Gasol's. Pass on Smith.
He would help our transition offense, transition defense, halfcourt defense, and he is an excellent ball handler and passer. His speed and athleticism would help us against our biggest threats OKC and MIA these are facts. Pau will never get any better in these aspects because its Smith's athleticism that makes it happen, however jump shots can be improved. And lets not act like Pau's mid range game is THAT much better than J. Smoove's
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| If Mitch could pull this trade off once he gets back from vacation, holy sh.it |
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| Josh Smith for Pau would be another steal but management have come out and said there will be no more home runs. Hard to know if the Lakers are playing coy. |
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Laker_Fan4Life wrote:
He would help our transition offense, transition defense, halfcourt defense, and he is an excellent ball handler and passer. His speed and athleticism would help us against our biggest threats OKC and MIA these are facts. Pau will never get any better in these aspects because its Smith's athleticism that makes it happen, however jump shots can be improved. And lets not act like Pau's mid range game is THAT much better than J. Smoove's
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http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fa ... /13/185/12
1. Yes, Gasol's mid-range game is better than Smith's. There's also the fact that Smith falls in love too much with his jumper instead of going for a higher-percentage shot, which is why Smith's Field Goal Percentage is 45.7% to Gasol's 50.7%, and Gasol had an off-year with Andrew Bynum clogging the paint.
Gasol's Field Goal Percentage for Jumpers: 43.9%
Smith's Field Goal Percentage for Jumpers: 38.8%
Josh Smith has been in the league for 8 seasons and has been relatively healthy throughout each season. Is his jump shot going to improve after all these seasons? Unlikely.
2. While Smith is above-average at handling ball-handling duties, Gasol is still better than him at that.
3. Gasol's a better rebounder, even with Bynum grabbing a lot of rebounds. Smith had Zaza Pachulia at Center for most of the season and still managed to get less rebounds than Gasol.
4. There's a huge disparity in Free Throw Percentage between the two. Smith's 63% to Gasol's 78.2%? Yowch.
5. Gasol can play Center effectively, which really helps the Lakers in terms of depth. Smith can only play Center in very small-ball lineups.
6. Games slow down in the playoffs, and Gasol will be more useful then. Guarding against players like Westbrook, Wade, and LeBron is more about team defense and less about individual defense, anyways. Plus, is Smith's athleticism going to be as useful as Gasol's length against Ibaka's and Bosh's jumpers? Not likely.
While Smith is the more athletic player, unless he undergoes a mentality change, Gasol provides more benefit to the Lakers than Smith does. Your link doesn't refute that. |
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thatguyoverthere wrote:
Laker_Fan4Life wrote:
He would help our transition offense, transition defense, halfcourt defense, and he is an excellent ball handler and passer. His speed and athleticism would help us against our biggest threats OKC and MIA these are facts. Pau will never get any better in these aspects because its Smith's athleticism that makes it happen, however jump shots can be improved. And lets not act like Pau's mid range game is THAT much better than J. Smoove's
stats comparison link.....
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fa ... /13/185/12
1. Yes, Gasol's mid-range game is better than Smith's. There's also the fact that Smith falls in love too much with his jumper instead of going for a higher-percentage shot, which is why Smith's Field Goal Percentage is 45.7% to Gasol's 50.7%, and Gasol had an off-year with Andrew Bynum clogging the paint.
Gasol's Field Goal Percentage for Jumpers: 43.9%
Smith's Field Goal Percentage for Jumpers: 38.8%
Josh Smith has been in the league for 8 seasons and has been relatively healthy throughout each season. Is his jump shot going to improve after all these seasons? Unlikely.
2. While Smith is above-average at handling ball-handling duties, Gasol is still better than him at that.
3. Gasol's a better rebounder, even with Bynum grabbing a lot of rebounds. Smith had Zaza Pachulia at Center for most of the season and still managed to get less rebounds than Gasol.
4. There's a huge disparity in Free Throw Percentage between the two. Smith's 63% to Gasol's 78.2%? Yowch.
5. Gasol can play Center effectively, which really helps the Lakers in terms of depth. Smith can only play Center in very small-ball lineups.
6. Games slow down in the playoffs, and Gasol will be more useful then. Guarding against players like Westbrook, Wade, and LeBron is more about team defense and less about individual defense, anyways. Plus, is Smith's athleticism going to be as useful as Gasol's length against Ibaka's and Bosh's jumpers? Not likely.
While Smith is the more athletic player, unless he undergoes a mentality change, Gasol provides more benefit to the Lakers than Smith does. Your link doesn't refute that.
thatguy made gooood points. only slip up was saying gasol handles the rock better, smith is a mismatch for 4s on the perimeter cuz of his handles, but he too often settles for Js(like u said)(dumb athlete bron syndrome) ,
ill take pau any day, except in about 900 days when he's too old. pau/nash pick n roll will be unstoppable as opposed to nash/smith(small target) pick n roll. plus pau is a mismatch for 4s on the block, only if mike brown knew this |
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| Gasol has chip exp... Youth and athlethicism dont hurt doh |
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| we got nash and pau is better suited to play along side him. I like josh, though. |
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Thatguy... Very good points
I have a few reasons why I like Smith ( for this team )
He has better defense then PAU ... Dude is a freak ... Gets off his feet quick and can recover quick... PAU always seems to get to a guy late and barely contest jumpers
PAU is losing his quickness before our eyes... I always see him looking dumbfounded when his guy blows by him ( then he would look at Bynum like it was his fault )
Smith would give us a ton of easy buckets, ton of second chance points, ton of fast break points,run the floor... U can go on and on
Nash , with Howard and smith running the floor would be lethal... That's not even including Kobe
If OKC goes small with DURANT at the 4 , Smith could guard him no problem.. He can also guard LEBRON
Having to bigs is over-rated... Miami proved that.. This is a guards league now.
I'm also thinking down the road... We can win it with PAU now... we can also win it with Smith now ... Why not get him now and lock him up... He might even sign for less just to play with Howard and win a ship
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 06:10 AM PST
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I would not trade Pau for any other PF,not named Kevin Love. Our Front office apparently have taken off Gasol from the Trading block after we got Nash and are really excited to see what Nash and Pau tandem can do on the court.
Pau will only be considered in Trade talks only his performance deteriorates this season.
Another reason to trade would be his contract but having acquired Nash using the TPE and basically going all-in on winning this season, I do not see them making moves to cut salary this season unless ofcourse the trade improves the team too(like the nixed CP3 deal)
However,things will get really tricky next off-season especially if this group wins the title. Will they look to shed salary or pay close to $85m in taxes to have another go at the championship.
My guess would be they would either move MWP's salary or amnesty his contract next summer considering his relatively modest $7m will save close to $20m(not sure about the exact number,but its $3.5 to $1 i guess). |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 07:11 AM PST
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Did you even see the playoffs last year? Gasol and Bynum got used by Kenneth Faired and JaVale Mcgee. Even in the playoffs teams knew that you speed up the tempo to beat the lakers. Gasol gets used by Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Lemarcus Aldridge, Chris Bosh, Dirk, Duncan, and even some non mentionables!!!! Josh Smith would put a stop to that. Plus he would be better suited against the likes of MIA and OKC. Pau is great!!! at one time he was considered "the most talented big man" in the nba, but his skills are declining (not as much on the offensive side but defensively)
check out this link and click on each individual player and see their player efficiency ratings vs Pau
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fa ... s/12/5/eff
And Gasol has better ball handling skills thats laughable... If you truly believe that then you probably are not that well versed in basketball. And Smith had more assists than Gasol on a far less talented team with fewer weapons around him. Thats because he can get to the hoop at will against other PF's and his court visoin is tremendous. He also gives us a chance to remain a top team in the league well after Gasol starts to really show his age |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 07:47 AM PST
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| Gasol is better offensively but that does not make him better for our team. With an aging backcourt just think about what J. Smoove can bring to our team in the categories that dont show up on all the stat sheets like hustling to 50/50 loose balls that gasol just couldnt get too, changing shots in the paint ( Youngest player ever to reach 1,000 block shots), how about the intimidation factor that causes the man he is defending or the opposing pg to take a jump shot rather than go to the lane. All things Gasol cannot and will not be better in. Couple that with the fact that he would be reunited with his AAU buddy in D12 the 3 time DPOY and automatically you turn every team that we face into a jump shooting team. It would also clear space for D12 to excel in the paint. It is going to be crowded with Pau and D12 trying to play with their backs to the basket and lets not forget transition buckets(which he will make us better at since he steals the ball better than any PF in the game) and his handles in the open court are comparable to a guard) this will lead to high energy level on the bench and possible moment swings during the game. When players are able to make exciting plays it seems that when Kobe is at his best. The fact that Nash will be the starting pg also makes me think that his PER of 22 will sky rocket expescially for a player who is 26 about to play the best baskeball of his career over the next few years |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 07:56 AM PST
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| There probably were never any real talks. Maybe a phone call gauging interest but I doubt it. Just another sports writer making **** up since we no longer hold them to any kind of standard or call them on their blatant lies. |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 07:57 AM PST
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Q. What is the old sports moniker that is most popular in all team sports because its the truth???
A. DEFENSE wins championsips |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 08:14 AM PST
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"Los Angeles has already had a tremendous offseason, adding Dwight Howard, Steve Nash, Antawn Jamison and Jodie Meeks to this point. While some have labeled them early title contenders because of this, there are still legitimate concerns about their defense, age and depth in their frontcourt.
Adding a dominant low-post defender like Smith would alleviate the heavy concerns about defense in the paint. Gasol brings a lot to the team in terms of rebounding and scoring but he isn’t the force down-low that Smith can be.
A counter-point may be that Dwight Howard will make up for Gasol’s deficiencies. That’s certainly a possibility, but at 32 years old Gasol is beginning turn the corner of his career. Smith, 26, is an ideal building piece for the Lakers if they hope to entice Dwight Howard to commit long-term at the Staples Center.
After all, Smith and Howard are pretty much best friends and what could be better than the two playing out their careers under the huge spotlight of Hollywood?
Howard’s presence may bring out the best in Gasol and allow him to concentrate on scoring. However the Lakers don’t necessarily NEED Gasol’s scoring talents if teams are concentrating on Smith and Howard down-low. Nash will be free to create for himself and Kobe Bryant and other shooters while the big men eat up space and attention in the paint.
A Smith and Howard combination would prove to be unstoppable for so many different reasons.
Besides their friendship, the two bigs play dominantly down-low and around the rim. A duo like that could impose its will on opposing offenses. With being able to prevent opponents from executing around the paint, the Lakers will have the upper hand against every contending team.
The Oklahoma City Thunder has Serge Ibaka down-low but their true strength is in their athletic scorers. With Ibaka less of a threat to score, the Lakers can better shutdown the paint and take away the penetration that created so much for their offense a season ago.
The Miami Heat, on the other hand, will be harder to contain to an extent. Miami has too many weapons to effectively shut them down, but they can be slowed. However, Smith’s tenacious defense could help neutralize Chris Bosh and take away his ability to find open looks on the perimeter. Add in Dwight Howard in the middle and Miami will be challenged more and have to rely on their perimeter game to score.
In a seven-game series, it’s never smart to rely on your jumper to carry your team’s scoring.
If the Lakers get an opportunity to make this happen, they should seriously consider it"it will be a big win for the team now and for the next 10-plus years."
* The opinion of Mike Hoag Jr. from bleacher report... he makes great points
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1301 ... mith-talks |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 08:30 AM PST
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| Whatever Mitch thinks is what I think |
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Laker_Fan4Life wrote:
Q. What is the old sports moniker that is most popular in all team sports because its the truth???
A. DEFENSE wins championsips
Pau > Smith all day everyday. |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 08:59 AM PST
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FloydNDLAL wrote:
Laker_Fan4Life wrote:
Q. What is the old sports moniker that is most popular in all team sports because its the truth???
A. DEFENSE wins championsips
Pau > Smith all day everyday.
He is slightly better offensively but Smith would be a better pick up for now and the future |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 10:33 AM PST
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Laker_Fan4Life wrote:
Gasol is better offensively but that does not make him better for our team. With an aging backcourt just think about what J. Smoove can bring to our team in the categories that dont show up on all the stat sheets like hustling to 50/50 loose balls that gasol just couldnt get too, changing shots in the paint ( Youngest player ever to reach 1,000 block shots), how about the intimidation factor that causes the man he is defending or the opposing pg to take a jump shot rather than go to the lane. All things Gasol cannot and will not be better in. Couple that with the fact that he would be reunited with his AAU buddy in D12 the 3 time DPOY and automatically you turn every team that we face into a jump shooting team. It would also clear space for D12 to excel in the paint. It is going to be crowded with Pau and D12 trying to play with their backs to the basket and lets not forget transition buckets(which he will make us better at since he steals the ball better than any PF in the game) and his handles in the open court are comparable to a guard) this will lead to high energy level on the bench and possible moment swings during the game. When players are able to make exciting plays it seems that when Kobe is at his best. The fact that Nash will be the starting pg also makes me think that his PER of 22 will sky rocket expescially for a player who is 26 about to play the best baskeball of his career over the next few years
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This guy gets it.... Money , money Post.... Exactly how I feel
The way Nash plays, Smith would be ideal
I'm not thinking regular season... I'm thinking playoffs and match-ups.. Smith helps us there more then GASOL |
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Posted: Aug 18, 2012 - 11:01 AM PST
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| Howard , j smooth , mwp and kobe in the same team playing defense would be nice, but shot selection would be a mess...but hey thats why nash is here |
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