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Post Subject: Bynum for D-Will??? Chris Broussard thinks so. So do I!
 Posted: May 30, 2012 - 06:22 PM PST
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How Bynum fits in Brooklyn
If the Nets can't get Dwight Howard, they should go after the Lakers' big man
Updated: May 30, 2012, 3:06 PM ET
By Chris Broussard | ESPN the Magazine
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If the Nets can't get Dwight Howard, they should trade for Andrew Bynum.
There are four teams still playing basketball this season, which means that 26 teams have a lot of work to do. Some players on those 26 clubs are unhappy with their teams and some of those teams know they need to move a couple of their players to improve. With that in mind, here are a....Please log in to view the entire post.
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Post Subject: RE: Bynum for D-Will??? Chris Broussard thinks so. So do I!
Posted: May 30, 2012 - 06:23 PM PST
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| I would take it a step further and trade Lopez and Gasol for D12 |
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Post Subject: RE: Bynum for D-Will??? Chris Broussard thinks so. So do I!
Posted: May 30, 2012 - 06:56 PM PST
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I think we get better with defense and passing. Hence I am in favor of a Houston deal if they choose to do so. I think Buddinger would be a great addition in place of Barnes. Lowry would be a great addition, moving steve Blake to a backup 2 (which I believe him to be). You With Buddinger and Blake having looks at the 3 ball, signing LO makes complete sense to me in this particular scenario. Allowing the new pieces to get involved early, while having Odom come in December to a team familiar to him, not needing as much time to acclimate.
Lowry, Sessions
Kobe, Blake
Metta, Buddinger, Ebanks
Scola, Lamar
Bynum, Hill
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 07:05 PM PST
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TEAMLakers wrote:
I would take it a step further and trade Lopez and Gasol for D12
Read my mind!!! I've always thought if the FO were really trying to get D12 Williams wouldve been the key. I dont think its going to happen but you never know. |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 07:24 PM PST
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| moot point....Brooklyn will get the number pick, trade that pick and Lopez to Orlando. Adolph Stern doesn't want LA to get better. Getting Dwill, lopez for Bynum, Sessions, and a pick would make us better. Brooklyn needs a star team to fill that new arena. Remember, the Clippers were struggling attendance wise, they got the star they needed in Griffin, even though OKC was the worst team, then he veto's the CP3 deal, sends to the clippers=full arena. |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 07:26 PM PST
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When we were going to the finals three years in a row and winning two of them - Bynum played sparingly in all those three years. He gave more in year three when we beat the Celtics - but he was still hurt - dragging his leg around. My point is that when we were dominant it wasn't a Pau and Bynum front court starting. It was a Pau and Lamar front court.
Pau and Lamar clicked. You had a PF in Lamar that didn't play on the post and a player in Pau that thrives in the post. You had a PF that could handle the ball like a point guard and pull down 10 boards a night. You had a PF that spread the floor from his driving and slashing to his outside threat. This was when we were great.
The Bynum and Pau thing has never worked. All it does is clog the lane and slow us down on transition defense. You take the best skills away from Pau by having to put his 17 feet out from the rim so there can be some spacing and totally kill his post game by having him jack up 15 footers. Silly. A waste.
Many will say - wait a minute - Pau is too weak to play center. Really? Against who? Pau even dominated Dwight Howard in the Orlando finals both offensively and defensively. There are not a lot of great centers out there. I am not afraid of Pau getting pushed around a little on some given night because he has such an arsenal at his command.
So - my idea is to finally let Bynum go because he had an all-star year and he has stayed healthy. You can get a lot in return for him now. Trade Bynum for Lowry, Scola and Budinger (this guy doesn't look like much - but he has hops and a good shot - not bad on defense either). Talk Lamar into coming back to the Lakers. I think it could be done to get LO back. Resign Jordan Hill for sure and Ramon Sessions. Oh, and get rid of Barnes - I think his best days are behind him quick. Also don't resign Troy Murphy. And try to get rid of Blake.
Lowry, Sessions PG
Kobe, Ebanks - SG
Budinger, Artest, and Ebanks - SF
Scola, Lamar, McRoberts - PF
Pau, Hill - C
I think this would be a nice mix of Vets and young guys in the starters and bench guys. You could let Sessions do his thing with the second unit. Not have to be stifled by allows slowing it down and passing the ball. In the second unit you could really run with Sessions, Ebanks, Artest, Lamar and Jordan Hill. I can imagine Lamar and Hill pulling down some serious boards together. And Sessions could run with those guys - and not two lumbering giants in Pau and Bynum.
Oh - and I would forget about D. Howard. First, he doesn't want to be a Laker - so F**K him and second, I don't think people realize how serious a herniated disk in a player that relies solely on athleticism is. Howard may be half done. This injury just doesn't go away. This is serious injury - forget Howard now. He's going to come back - but I don't think he'll be the same. |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 07:55 PM PST
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| well no 1st rounder for Brooklyn.... we shall see what happens next |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 08:00 PM PST
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If the Lakers trade Gasol somewhere, and then turn around and trade Bynum and Sessions for DWill and Lopez, we'll have one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. Ain't winning no titles that way.
I also think DWill is a bit overrated. His shooting efficiency wasn't really all that impressive last season and he's been a bit injury prone. I pass. |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 08:13 PM PST
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| Hell NO! You dont trade the 2nd best center for Dwill. Just based off this season I dont think Dwill is a top 5 pg right now!!!! Dwill is good but hes not great. Not worth trading something that not everybody has. Pau yes, Bynum no!!!! |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 08:21 PM PST
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If the Lakers trade Gasol somewhere, and then turn around and trade Bynum and Sessions for DWill and Lopez, we'll have one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. Ain't winning no titles that way.
I also think DWill is a bit overrated. His shooting efficiency wasn't really all that impressive last season and he's been a bit injury prone. I pass.
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Aha, one of the few times we disagree. I like that.... LOL.
I'd do a Bynum for Dwill and Lopez, and I wouldn't hesitate.
You know I'm a HUGE Bynum guy, like yourself, but IMO, we MUST get a lead guard who'll keep the damn ball from Kobe's hands in certain situations. emphasis on the CERTAIN.
Naturally, I'd love to see Pau moved for a top tier PG, but to get DWill and Lopez for Drew, I'd do it, I really would.
I guess I'm gonna pull a baad here and strike the "wouldn't hesitate" from the record, because as I'm typing< I'm questioning what I'm typing.
Damn, it is thought provoking. Lopez isn't a bad player, much better than his goofy looking twin brother Robin.
You're 100% right about dWill's shooting efficiency. The difference between 40% and 45% might seem large, but it's only 5 more made hoops per 100 shots. I can live with that. The guy isn't afraid to take and make big shots, is always a willing passer, can create his own shot, as well as penetrate.
I have been a huge fan of his GAME(if you're not a Laker, I'm not a fan), and have always envisioned him in a Lakers jersey.
What would suck is finally getting a PG like him, and not being able to have him feeding Drew. I freely admit that, but we're talking about IMO, certainly debatable, the best PG in the NBA....... |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 08:37 PM PST
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| Well, we now it's gonna get interesting. Brooklyn lost some assets in the lottery, so maybe now we can do some moving. I'm ready for Bynum to go. We need to move on. |
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This would be great for Drew and great for the Lakers
Andrew could move on with championship experience and be the building block for a franchise with the best arena in the league...He could play with a young core and get the best offensive numbers for a center in the league...
The Lakers could land D Will and offer Pau/ Lopez for Dwight and filler
I would do this deal in a heart beat |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 09:04 PM PST
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| So I guess everyone wants to ignore the point of Dwight not wanting to play in LA for two reasons, he wants to be the man and he doesn't want to follow Shaq's legacy. Also let's also forget that Dwight is coming off a pretty bad back injury. |
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gemfow wrote:
So I guess everyone wants to ignore the point of Dwight not wanting to play in LA for two reasons, he wants to be the man and he doesn't want to follow Shaq's legacy. Also let's also forget that Dwight is coming off a pretty bad back injury.
But he also wants to play wherever D will plays. |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 10:03 PM PST
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If we trade Bynum for DWill and Lopez, I would trade Gasol for Noah and Deng to make that rumor true.
DWill
Kobe
Deng
Lopez
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Thats a sick starting lineup. |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 11:05 PM PST
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I like the idea of a D-Will for Bynum trade for sure. We HAVE to have a top PG to play in this NBA(my opinion). I think Bynum is a great Center and will be for years to come but......I think D-Will is better for us right now.
I would also like to see Gasol traded for Josh Smith and Marvin Williams. I think Smith brings the athleticism to guard a Durant or a Lebron and the kid can rebound and play some D. I think Marvin Williams could be an awesome 6th man off the bench.
Again this is all just my opinion, just a fan hoping for some change(and not the kind that Obama has provided) |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 11:22 PM PST
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| I am still numb with all this rumors flowing...Definitely frustrated! These are all good trades to me but will it happen? I don't think so... |
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rdg0917 wrote:
If we trade Bynum for DWill and Lopez, I would trade Gasol for Noah and Deng to make that rumor true.
DWill
Kobe
Deng
Lopez
Noah
Thats a sick starting lineup.
If only this could happen. This would be too good to be true. |
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Posted: May 30, 2012 - 11:40 PM PST
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| If we traded Bynum for DWill I'm not sure what we would have left to offer for Howard. I guess we would have to get Lamar back for dirt cheap and then trade him and Pau for Howard! LOL |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 12:34 AM PST
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if we trade bynum and fillers for williams, lopez, i want marshon brooks also
the trade rumor of gasol for josh smith, marvin williams is josh smith going to play the 3 or the 4? |
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| Marvin Williams is a bust , Brook Lopez is scared to rebound, scola's contract too long before it expires. |
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| Chris Broussard is so full of ****, it's funny that people actually pay heed to him and his "sources". |
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I hate Scola now,don't want him, 6 boards? Wtf? If we trade with houston,I just won't Lowry and Martin, throw in Ramon for them idc, budinger will never be Martin,don't like him..
Dwll haters are crazy!!!! Not eficcient?? He scored 57 this year in a game!!! That's the most of the year for anyone! And he's a pg! And hell dunk on you,he can finish strong or lay it up in anyway. If they are nice enough to give us the best pg and a nice center for Drew, you HAVE to not even think twice and do it. |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 01:22 AM PST
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| hopefully Mitch can pull of another good trade. |
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| You guys that are talking about Dwill being overatted and had horrible stats last year and what not...your crazy!! he averaged over 8 assists a game on a horrible team, his shooting percentage wasnt the greatest but that also had alot to do with the fact that he was the only good player on that team and defenses were able to key on him!! Dwill would be huge for us..and somebody made a comment about Howard not wantin to come here, while that may be right at this moment if we were to get Dwill I think he would change his mind!! I think he likes the idea of playing with him!! |
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| How can yall think we can get dwill and dwight this year?both teams want bynum |
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| If the lakers get scola and/or lopez, it still does not address help/picknroll defense and poor bench scoring. I believe pau for iggy and meeks and bynum, sessions plus future 1st rounder for d12 and reddick . Meeks and reddick add 3pt and bench; iggy stays in front if westbrook; d12 has the footspeed to negate picknroll...but stern will veto all of this |
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lakers52761 wrote:
if we trade bynum and fillers for williams, lopez, i want marshon brooks also
the trade rumor of gasol for josh smith, marvin williams is josh smith going to play the 3 or the 4?
How bout Anthony Morrow instead of Brooks. Dude can shoot lights out. |
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| If we get scola we have to get Lamar, I'd rather we trade pau for Lowry and Martin than add scola,wed have to get Lamar either way if we trade Pau to the rockets. |
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| Forgot to mention...amnesty Blake and use remaining complete the rest of the bench. |
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| Josh smith def a 4,he can grab 10 boards a night,grabbed 18 this playoffs. If we trade bynum for Dwill well be lucky if that's not straight up..I'm fine with that if we can sign Odom, play 7'1 Pau at 5 |
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| Amnesty who whoever makes the most money between ron and blake. I think its ron,plus blake can hit 4 threes in a game if he gets hot, he was hot this year til he got hurt. |
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| Ok I wasn't thinking, we don't need Sessions, so trade him with Bynum for Dwill ,but idk if we can get their big back, we could def get Morrow, sign Lamar, play Pau at 5 |
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shouldbeGM wrote:
If we get scola we have to get Lamar, I'd rather we trade pau for Lowry and Martin than add scola,wed have to get Lamar either way if we trade Pau to the rockets.
Lamar, pau and bynum are fantastic one on one defenders. But once the initial defender gets blown by or picked, it's over... See westbrook see barea See parker. Martin and scola are allergic to defense plus neither can rebound. Getting lamar back is a step backwards. Just imagine lamar, scola and bynum playing transition defense after a kobe brick...what a nightmare. Now imagine iggy, hill and Howard...can you say block party? |
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shouldbeGM wrote:
Amnesty who whoever makes the most money between ron and blake. I think its ron,plus blake can hit 4 threes in a game if he gets hot, he was hot this year til he got hurt.
Ron can hit just as many BIG 3's as Blake...plus he can defend 2 through 5. Plus if we trade pau for iggy and meeks, payroll loses 4 to 5 million. Blake struggles against all of the elite pgs. I hate when they refer to him as a pesky defender. Did you see him guard textbook on the block? And don't blame it on injury...if ur hurt say something and give gridlock or morris an opportunity to play some defense. At least Ron Ron has the courtesy to knee a guy when he's down or elbow him in the head. |
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Pf: iguadala. Bu: meeks
Sg: beans. Bu: reddick
Sf: metta the back of ur head with an elbow off the turnbuckle Bu: ebanks
Pf: hill. Bu: mcroberts
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ralppcobarde wrote:
hopefully Mitch can pull of another good trade.
Yeah...let's just hope it's one that even Stern can not steal! Funny how Stern steals CP3 from the Lakers, sends him to the team he wants...then out of pure chance...New Orleans wins the #1 overall pick for the new ownership just selected by the League! |
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My question to LTB is if the Lakers trade Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol,who is going to rebound and block shots for the Lakers?The team needs interior defense and rebounding to win another championship IMO.
They also need inside scoring so my next queston is who will be the inside scorer if Andrew Bynum is traded for Deron Williams?Too risky to trade size for a small skilled guy IMO.Keep Andrew Bynum unless your getting big size in return.
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Katie wrote:
My question to LTB is if the Lakers trade Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol,who is going to rebound and block shots for the Lakers?The team needs interior defense and rebounding to win another championship IMO.
They also need inside scoring so my next queston is who will be the inside scorer if Andrew Bynum is traded for Deron Williams?Too risky to trade size for a small skilled guy IMO.Keep Andrew Bynum unless your getting big size in return.
Katie, as I do agree that size has helped our team out this year, the league has transformed somewhat into a faster game, where the centers standing 6'10, 6'11 but are agile, are getting the job done. But trading both Gasol and Bynum would be too much IMO as well. Unless Dwight is in the mix, because in my mind, he is the perfect big man for the game today. Depth is our concern, you do not trade Bynum for depth, you trade him for Dwight. You can trade Pau for depth, either way, they can't play together down low and win a conference/championship finals. The activity is not there for me. |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 09:36 AM PST
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Everyone talks about size... I got caught up in the media hype too about the Lakers having two very talented 7 footers... we actually had 3 if you include Lamar.
If you look at the top 4 teams this year: Chicago, Miami, San Antonio, OKC.
They are athletic with one solid big.
D-Will for Bynum cannot be straight up and MUST include Lopez coming back. Otherwise, I say no deal.
My first choice would be to flip Lopez/Gasol for D12 but if you flipped Gasol into a 3 and get some other pieces for depth, that wouldnt be so so bad either...
Point is that having D-Will will definitely shore up the 1. We need a PG that can facilitate the offense and defend. If you look at the past 10 chips the Lakers have won, the 5 most recent ones have been in the triangle which does not need a traditional point guard. The other 5 with Magic obviously had a PG that played all positions but could pass, score, and defend.
Regarding rebounding... there were times Drew and Pau were outrebounded and there were times they dominated. If both were traded, the pieces received would fill those gaps...
Re-sign Jordan Hill... and if we were able to somehow pair D-Will and D-12 with KB24, (PIPEDREAM I know) can anyone tell me that there are not players out there that would sign for the vet min to chase a ring.
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 10:53 AM PST
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rdg0917 wrote:
If we trade Bynum for DWill and Lopez, I would trade Gasol for Noah and Deng to make that rumor true.
DWill
Kobe
Deng
Lopez
Noah
Thats a sick starting lineup.
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 11:26 AM PST
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Can we just be clear on one thing? This article that Broussard put together is no different from anything that all of us LTB-ers post every single day. None of these trade ideas are rumors at all - there are no sources at all telling him that these are trades these teams are thinking about. He is doing exactly what most of us on here do - he pulls up the ESPN trade machine and starts running through different scenarios in his head.
Do yourself a favor and ignore everything that guys like Broussard and Bucher have to say. |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 11:42 AM PST
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You are right... and why ignore it? Since we all do it anyway... this is a forum for topics like this if I am not mistaken. All I am saying is that I completely agree with what the article states as it pertains to trading Bynum/Sessions for Lopez/D-Will and this is my honest opinion. If someone chooses not to share that opinion, I will respect it and continue to have my opinion.
Whether Brooklyn or LA see it as a fair trade or not is entirely up to management/ownership. There are no sources or even hints that the two teams will even talk about a swap nor does the article state that... it's just something Broussard thinks should happen but that's what makes this fun... pure speculation...
and IMHO.... this is a fair trade...it's not entirely lopsided...one could argue that LA would be getting the better end to which I would agree... but if D-Will doesn't intend to extend in BKLYN, which means D12 would not go there.... then having the 2nd best center in the league I think is fair compensation.... again this is just my opinion. |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 12:11 PM PST
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rdg0917 wrote:
If we trade Bynum for DWill and Lopez, I would trade Gasol for Noah and Deng to make that rumor true.
DWill
Kobe
Deng
Lopez
Noah
Thats a sick starting lineup.
Man, if we did this we'd be the best team in the league. But the bulls wouldn't give both noah and deng I think. |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 12:25 PM PST
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lakerfrommass wrote:
Steven
Aha, one of the few times we disagree. I like that.... LOL.
I'd do a Bynum for Dwill and Lopez, and I wouldn't hesitate.
You know I'm a HUGE Bynum guy, like yourself, but IMO, we MUST get a lead guard who'll keep the damn ball from Kobe's hands in certain situations. emphasis on the CERTAIN.
Naturally, I'd love to see Pau moved for a top tier PG, but to get DWill and Lopez for Drew, I'd do it, I really would.
I guess I'm gonna pull a baad here and strike the "wouldn't hesitate" from the record, because as I'm typing< I'm questioning what I'm typing.
Damn, it is thought provoking. Lopez isn't a bad player, much better than his goofy looking twin brother Robin.
You're 100% right about dWill's shooting efficiency. The difference between 40% and 45% might seem large, but it's only 5 more made hoops per 100 shots. I can live with that. The guy isn't afraid to take and make big shots, is always a willing passer, can create his own shot, as well as penetrate.
I have been a huge fan of his GAME(if you're not a Laker, I'm not a fan), and have always envisioned him in a Lakers jersey.
What would suck is finally getting a PG like him, and not being able to have him feeding Drew. I freely admit that, but we're talking about IMO, certainly debatable, the best PG in the NBA.......
John,
I just think there has to be a better option out there than Deron Williams and injury prone Lopez for Bynum. Doesn't Lopez have the same foot injury that ended Yao Ming's career?
Also, Deron Williams strikes me as being a little bit overrated. He couldn't even come close to lifting he Nets to the playoffs these last 2 seasons. If Williams was a Superstar, he should have been able to carry that team to more than 22 wins. I'm just not sold on Deron being a winner. Plus, Deron will be 28 years old next season, so he's only got a few more years left of his prime before he starts to decline. I can't see him being the future of the Lakers after Kobe. By the time Kobe retires, Deron Williams will be 30-something and old by NBA standards. I hate to trade Bynum for anybody, but especially for a point guard who's pushing 30 years old...
I feel that the Lakers should be able to get better value for an All-NBA 2nd Team All-Star center than an arguably overrated "elite" point guard who's never won anything, and a no defense/no rebounding center who's career could be done after that horrific injury-ridden season.
I'm convinced that if the Lakers trade Bynum for Lopez and Williams, the Lakers still won't win any more championships in the Kobe era (Williams and Kobe still won't beat the Thunder), and then we'll have to watch Bynum become the most dominant center in the league playing for the Nets. Plus, Bynum will have that chip on his shoulder every time he plays against the Lakers, so he'll always kick our @ss. |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 12:27 PM PST
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Maybe we can get Brandon Roy. Kobe loves him, and he would love to play here. I was talking about it last year after he retired. I think it's a realistically huge possibility.
Chris Palmer: Someone who could help the Lakers: Brandon Roy. Based on what I'm told he could be back in the league next year. Twitter |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 01:03 PM PST
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lakerdude wrote:
Maybe we can get Brandon Roy. Kobe loves him, and he would love to play here. I was talking about it last year after he retired. I think it's a realistically huge possibility.
Chris Palmer: Someone who could help the Lakers: Brandon Roy. Based on what I'm told he could be back in the league next year. Twitter
Dude i have been mentioning Brandon Roy on LTB as a good option for the Lakers to bring in quite a bit a few months ago.
I posted some stuff about me wanting Brandon Roy on the Lakers.
Brandon becomes the perfect 6th man if his knees hold up.Michael Redd played well in Phoenix and many others have comeback from knee issues.Good call lakerdude.
http://twitter.com/#!/espnchrispalmer
chris palmer @ESPNChrisPalmer
Roy and Odom coming off the Lakers bench for about $5M a year? Huge upgrade. |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 01:34 PM PST
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| D Will has a horrible attitude I heard. Avery Johnson can't coach that guy, what makes people think Mike Brown can? |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 02:43 PM PST
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| I know people are talking Bynum for Lopez and Dwill. But, I doubt that would happen, unless we threw some else in the mix. I dont think NJ would trade Lopez and Dwill for just Bynum, that would be the worst trade of the century for the Nets. |
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Posted: May 31, 2012 - 10:54 PM PST
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lakeshowsd wrote:
lakerfrommass wrote:
Steven
Aha, one of the few times we disagree. I like that.... LOL.
I'd do a Bynum for Dwill and Lopez, and I wouldn't hesitate.
You know I'm a HUGE Bynum guy, like yourself, but IMO, we MUST get a lead guard who'll keep the damn ball from Kobe's hands in certain situations. emphasis on the CERTAIN.
Naturally, I'd love to see Pau moved for a top tier PG, but to get DWill and Lopez for Drew, I'd do it, I really would.
I guess I'm gonna pull a baad here and strike the "wouldn't hesitate" from the record, because as I'm typing< I'm questioning what I'm typing.
Damn, it is thought provoking. Lopez isn't a bad player, much better than his goofy looking twin brother Robin.
You're 100% right about dWill's shooting efficiency. The difference between 40% and 45% might seem large, but it's only 5 more made hoops per 100 shots. I can live with that. The guy isn't afraid to take and make big shots, is always a willing passer, can create his own shot, as well as penetrate.
I have been a huge fan of his GAME(if you're not a Laker, I'm not a fan), and have always envisioned him in a Lakers jersey.
What would suck is finally getting a PG like him, and not being able to have him feeding Drew. I freely admit that, but we're talking about IMO, certainly debatable, the best PG in the NBA.......
John,
I just think there has to be a better option out there than Deron Williams and injury prone Lopez for Bynum. Doesn't Lopez have the same foot injury that ended Yao Ming's career?
Also, Deron Williams strikes me as being a little bit overrated. He couldn't even come close to lifting he Nets to the playoffs these last 2 seasons. If Williams was a Superstar, he should have been able to carry that team to more than 22 wins. I'm just not sold on Deron being a winner. Plus, Deron will be 28 years old next season, so he's only got a few more years left of his prime before he starts to decline. I can't see him being the future of the Lakers after Kobe. By the time Kobe retires, Deron Williams will be 30-something and old by NBA standards. I hate to trade Bynum for anybody, but especially for a point guard who's pushing 30 years old...
I feel that the Lakers should be able to get better value for an All-NBA 2nd Team All-Star center than an arguably overrated "elite" point guard who's never won anything, and a no defense/no rebounding center who's career could be done after that horrific injury-ridden season.
I'm convinced that if the Lakers trade Bynum for Lopez and Williams, the Lakers still won't win any more championships in the Kobe era (Williams and Kobe still won't beat the Thunder), and then we'll have to watch Bynum become the most dominant center in the league playing for the Nets. Plus, Bynum will have that chip on his shoulder every time he plays against the Lakers, so he'll always kick our @ss.
The only person who has called him overrated has been you apparently. Lift up NJ? A point guard has to lift up a team with no one who can bring it consistently? Yeah okay. A point guard needs to pass it to someone who can play. It's not a coincidence that Deron's stats have gone down after being shipped to New Jersey and it wasn't as if Utah was a powerhouse, but at least there was a good flex offense in place and some players. NJ has no one out there really. It's not as if he went to the Clippers who had weapons |
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