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Post Subject: Gasol-for-Bosh deal a win for Lakers, Heat
Posted: May 23, 2012 - 02:22 PM PST
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Billy Witz
When Pau Gasol arrived in Los Angeles five years ago, he was the missing link for the desperately rebuilding Lakers. His passing, vision, skill and selflessness fit seamlessly into Phil Jackson's triangle offense, and suddenly the Lakers were back to being the Lakers " feared, loathed and on their way to three straight NBA Finals appearances and back-to-back titles.
Now, with the team having been dispatched by a better team for the second consecutive season in the Western Conference semifinals, Gasol is again the solution for the Lakers.
This time, though, they must trade him.
There's nothing wrong with Gasol's skill set. Though he turns 32 in July, Gasol has never relied on his athleticism or quickness, gifts that diminish over time. He is still a matchup nightmare, a 7-foot forward who, this season, expanded his range to the three-point line, much to Andrew Bynum's chagrin.
What has changed is the Lakers. With Bynum's development into a dominant low-post player (at least when he feels like it " or when Kobe Bryant feels like giving him the ball), there isn't space for two on the block. And now that the triangle offense has been replaced by Mike Brown's isolation plays, the ball doesn't make it into Gasol's hands often enough.
The problem with that is Gasol remains " by far " the Lakers' best distributor and decision-maker, his ill-fated pass that Kevin Durant poached at the end of Game 4 notwithstanding.
Simply put, the Lakers no longer get their money's worth " $18.7 million a year " out of Gasol.
And though there are many teams that would love to have Gasol " Houston, which almost got him in December, and Chicago are the two most oft-mentioned " one deal makes the most sense.
Hello, Pat Riley?
Sending Gasol to Miami for Chris Bosh might just be the missing piece for both franchises. The salaries are a close enough match to make it work: Gasol has two years and $38.2 million left on his contract; Bosh has four years (the last two are player options) and $78 million on his. And neither owner, the Heat's Micky Arison nor the Lakers' Jerry Buss, is afraid to go all in.
This works for the Lakers because Bosh is most comfortable playing at the elbow or on the baseline, facing the basket and shooting jumpers " a perfect (but now-absent) complement to Bynum in the post. Bosh, who just turned 28, gives the Lakers someone " anyone? " who can get easy baskets in transition and provides them two cornerstone big men who are hitting their prime as Bryant nears the end of his.
Meanwhile, in Miami, it's hard to imagine changes won't be made if the Heat don't win the title. Is coach Erik Spoelstra done? Is guard Dwyane Wade sent elsewhere? Perhaps, but flipping Bosh for Gasol would cure many of the Heat's ills.
They would have a true low-post threat, a role LeBron James has grudgingly accepted (except in the playoffs) because Bosh could not find any comfort there " and nobody else on the roster is capable. Gasol, unlike Bosh, can defend any Eastern Conference center not named Dwight Howard and would provide James with someone who also values the importance of keeping the ball moving. This might encourage Spoelstra " or whoever is coaching the Heat " to actually, like, run an offense.
Such a trade might also rejuvenate both players.
Bosh seems to shrink under the weight of the Heat's villainy, but would find comfort in a locker room that, despite some dominant personalities, is quite mature. And, in case nobody noticed, Bryant and Metta World Peace are quite comfortable being the bad guys.
Gasol's championship pedigree, both with Spain and the Lakers, would be more valued in Miami than it is in Los Angeles, and might give him a greater voice in the locker room than he's had with the Lakers, keeping him more engaged. And as much as Gasol enjoys living in Los Angeles, South Beach would also agree with his cosmopolitan tastes.
Certainly, the trade would not solve all the Lakers' problems. If Ramon Sessions opts out of his contract, the Lakers must procure a point guard. And, just as urgently, their bench must get younger and more athletic. Steve Blake is serviceable and Jordan Hill is promising, but LA needs shooters, shooters and shooters.
But those are moves made at the margins. Planting Gasol in Miami immediately makes the Heat the favorite in the East next season, and putting Bosh " and a few tweaks " in Los Angeles would put the Lakers in the mix in the West.
This would be a bold deal, but for an aging Bryant and an anxious James desperate for a championship " and owners who have been rewarded for rolling the dice " it's also the right one.
Link: http://www.foxsportswest.com/05/22/12/G ... eedID=7972
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Post Subject: RE: Gasol-for-Bosh deal a win for Lakers, Heat
Posted: May 23, 2012 - 02:24 PM PST
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| No. That would make the Heat so much better! Plus the Lakers wouldn't really get that much better as Pau is an exceptional passer and Bosh isn't. The only positives are that bosh has a consistent jumper and is younger. |
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Post Subject: RE: Gasol-for-Bosh deal a win for Lakers, Heat
Posted: May 23, 2012 - 02:28 PM PST
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| Bosh blows. We wouldn't be getting any better by trading Pau for Bosh. It would be trading soft for soft, which is pointless. The only good thing is that Bosh is younger than Pau, but this trade doesn't make us any better at all. |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 02:30 PM PST
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| The only reason the Lakers would get him would be because Bosh is hitting his mid-range jumpers and Gasol isn't and is still is his prime. |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 02:33 PM PST
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| Billy Witz easy buddy just take it easy.This is such a crazy idea Billy Witz put together. |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 02:42 PM PST
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| Bosh is a softer and shorter version of Pau... |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 03:01 PM PST
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| Hell no! |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 03:32 PM PST
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 03:55 PM PST
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 04:27 PM PST
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| one thing is because of Age but no. |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 04:31 PM PST
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| No way the Lakers should not help out Miami. |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 05:54 PM PST
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| Yeah...that makes so much sense. Miami's weakness is inside, half-court offense. So let's make sure we help them to a few championships. Great idea! There's no question the move makes Miami better, but the Lakers? Not so much. |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 06:23 PM PST
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| What the hell? |
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 06:40 PM PST
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Posted: May 23, 2012 - 07:17 PM PST
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| Insane idea!!!!!!! |
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Posted: May 24, 2012 - 11:18 PM PST
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| Horrible idea!! Same type of weak, jump shooting big man. Plus Bosh 's defense is weak. We need a dude who is not afraid to get in there and mix it up. Not sure if it was just me but sometimes I just wanted to see Pay get angry and dunk the damn ball! |
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Posted: May 25, 2012 - 02:09 AM PST
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Posted: May 25, 2012 - 02:41 AM PST
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| Noway never helop out the enemy. Pau is much better then Bosh. Keep Pau trade Bynum and Pau will get his game back. Bynum has a BIG influence on the way Pau has been palying |
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Posted: May 25, 2012 - 02:47 AM PST
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| dumbest idea ever.. bosh is a younger and weaker/softer version of pau with Post moves that aren't up to par to Pau's given his age..his post moves are still the top 5 in the league. His numbers work to trade with pau but still highly paid, and doesn't allow us to open salary to recruit younger or solid players. If we trade pau we need at least 2-3 solid players, or 1 superstar (deron williams) although highly unlikely as the nets wouldn't do that. Any big trade involving superstars and allstars to bring back significant talent and value, would have to involve andrew bynum. he's our most valuable chip, getting dwight doesn't solve much either and a big risk. Just wait til july and see what happens if we trade pau we need to get multiple young prospects and picks or at least solid talent. |
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Posted: May 25, 2012 - 02:55 AM PST
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Let's make it start...Bosh so far does not prove anything...He maybe the franchise player of Toronto before only because no one else so good on that team....He is an All-Star but not a bonafide superstar....The writer is probably trying to trick Mitch to consider it....he is probably a Heat fan that knows will make the Heat a better team with Gasol...
Now, I would trade Gasol for K. Love!! But Gasol $$$ makes it hard to trade him ($18M +).....Imagine K. Love's work ethic in LA...rebounding monster and a good 3 pt shooter....will give Bynum all the space he wants to operate down low.... |
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Posted: May 25, 2012 - 02:39 PM PST
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| The only reason it's a no is bosh do not free up money for better pieces |
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Posted: May 27, 2012 - 05:39 AM PST
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| whoever suggested this poo,doesnt watch bosh like a hooper do. hes lost bounce,and he doesnt rebound.he may be younger in age but gasol gets up higher still,gasols still two hand dunkn easy,not tryin,bosh on the other hand is dunking less and less,and the ball is goin in like a gaurd jammin it |
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Posted: May 27, 2012 - 11:33 AM PST
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At the time of the Pau trade I would have done it in a heartbeat. Both have regressed, but the pieces fix Miami better.
I'd rather amnesty blake and pick up Ray Allen. Wouldn't mind KG too. |
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Posted: May 27, 2012 - 11:48 AM PST
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lakerfan8 wrote:
At the time of the Pau trade I would have done it in a heartbeat. Both have regressed, but the pieces fix Miami better.
I'd rather amnesty blake and pick up Ray Allen. Wouldn't mind KG too.
The lakers need to get younger no older. I wouldn't sign them even if they would be coming off the bench for us. Its not bcus they are celtics but just that thier time in the nba is about done.We need to get younger to compete. We don't need two has beens. |
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Posted: May 27, 2012 - 12:54 PM PST
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| I am just not a Chris Bosh fan. I see no advantage of getting him over Pau. If you trade Pau it has to be for some young guns that can shoot 3's at 40%+ and a 1st tier PG. Our problem is a bench that only averages 8 pts. per game and ranks near the bottom of the NBA. |
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Posted: May 27, 2012 - 01:04 PM PST
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I'm sorry, but Ray Allen shoots it better from the outside than anyone on our team right now. He may be old and a defensive liability but he runs around the court like crazy making the defenders tired. Pretty sure if you have him and Kobe on the floor (westbrook and Harden) would get very tired from using their energy on the other end.
But point taken. We do need to get younger. I think we need an athletic point and an athletic wingman at the 3 position |
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Posted: May 27, 2012 - 01:23 PM PST
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Bosh is always hurt, weak, less post game. GTFO billy witz.
Love is more valuable than Pau. To get him we'd have to give up much more than Gasol which would continue to limit our ability to improve our bench. |
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Posted: May 27, 2012 - 03:49 PM PST
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| wtf, are they trying to fk over lakers?! one of the worst sht deal i ever heard |
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