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Post Subject: Nick Young To The Lakers? James Harden A Possibility? Post ID: 666407Posted: May 22, 2012 - 05:50 AM PST
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Phone is buzzing. Nick Young a Lakers possibility, I'm told.


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A Harden/Bynum duo could be the Lakers future.


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Hearing that James Harden wouldn't rule out the Lakers next summer.


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Post Subject: RE: Nick Young To The Lakers? James Harden A Possibility? Post ID: 666408Posted: May 22, 2012 - 05:52 AM PST
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CP3, Kobe, Howard on the Lakers can technically still happen. #2013



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CP3/Kobe/Howard is a longshot. So was LeBron/D-Wade/Bosh.


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I remember Nick said he really hoped that the Lakers drafted him. I would love to see Nick in a Laker uniform and would love to play alongside his idol, Kobe.
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Post Subject: RE: Nick Young To The Lakers? James Harden A Possibility? Post ID: 666409Posted: May 22, 2012 - 06:00 AM PST
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Wow, how can sources say that Harden is considering LA when his team is still in the playoffs? lol.

Would be awesome to have him on this team though, no doubt.
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Post Subject: RE: Nick Young To The Lakers? James Harden A Possibility? Post ID: 666412Posted: May 22, 2012 - 06:02 AM PST
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Question is, would their respective teams let them go. I'd love Harden on our team though. He's all beard and grit. lol.
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Wow, how can sources say that Harden is considering LA when his team is still in the playoffs? lol.

Would be awesome to have him on this team though, no doubt.


LMFAO my thoughts exactly Lakers4Kobe.

This is obviously ridiculous rumors already starting up. The only realistic idea is the Nick Young one, I'd be for that as long as we don't have to give up much.

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Wow, how can sources say that Harden is considering LA when his team is still in the playoffs? lol.

Would be awesome to have him on this team though, no doubt.


LMFAO my thoughts exactly Lakers4Kobe.

This is obviously ridiculous rumors already starting up. The only realistic idea is the Nick Young one, I'd be for that as long as we don't have to give up much.


Well it's Chris Palmer, so it's not like it's some random on a forum claiming it lol.

I don't know about Young though; short of Javalee McGee, he may be the dumbest player in the league.
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Lets offer Bynum for Wall plus lottery pick..(stern owes us one,will make the balls bounce in our favor)

Turn Gasol into Noah and Deng(Bulls did want him)
Sign Beasley(Sign and Trade using Lamar TPE)
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Let the ridiculous (off)season begin

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Question is, would their respective teams let them go. I'd love Harden on our team though. He's all beard and grit. lol.


OKC will eventually have to decide between Harden and Ibaka
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i like IBAKA, would love to have him on our side, at 22, he has a mid range jumper, hustle, blocking abilities
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I think they will go with keeping Harden -- 6th man of the year..Right now, I am madd still..I dont care for ibaka or Harden at this moment in time...I am reeling and am gonna need some time b4 we start all this drama...All i know is, I dont want Miami or Boston to win a dayum thing! Or OKC -- I am rooting for Indiana if or San Antonio either or, i can live with...
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I really see the Nick Young thing as a big time move for the Lakers if it gets done.James Harden is more of a long shot of happening.Nick Young shoot the 3 pointer well and he can create his own shot.




But if the Lakers do get James Harden it would be great for the Lakers chances of winning more championships in the future,
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Nick young would be nice. he can learn from Kobe dude.

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anything you here from now until late june is pure meaningless rumors. people are high on speculations right now. everyone need to take a break and calm down and not rush to conclusion just yet.

Im mostly talking about analysts and the so-called "sources".

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We have no cap space, and with the new CBA, you need cap space to sign free agents. There is no MID level for us when over the cap, these ESPN guys are not smart enough to know this.
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Katie wrote:
I really see the Nick Young thing as a big time move for the Lakers if it gets done.James Harden is more of a long shot of happening.Nick Young shoot the 3 pointer well and he can create his own shot.

I know a little something about Nick Young. When the trade deadline arrived the Clippers quietly signed Young from the Washington Wizards. With the Wizards he was averaging a respectable 16 points per game, so one would assume he was going to be solid offensive contributor. The problem is these statistics were accomplished off of being on a squad whose only offensive contributors were only Nick Young and John Wall. Put Steve Blake on that washington team and he will be putting up 16.6PPG as well because that team doesnt have any other options. When he arrived with the Clippers his production was nothing like we had all hoped. His scoring average plunged down to 9.7 PPG with the Clippers, and went down even further during the playoffs (8.3PPG). Add to that equation Nick Young is not a good shooter, rather he acquires his shots by driving to the rim, not exactly what the lakers need right now.
Nick Young is a good bench player, in regards to effectiveness he reminds me of a Steve Blake or Matt Barnes, and aquisitions of this level are not going to help the Lakers at all...they already have players of this caliber.




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Wow, how can sources say that Harden is considering LA when his team is still in the playoffs? lol.

Would be awesome to have him on this team though, no doubt.


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Hmmmm rumors already. They are pretty good ones though. We just need better roles players comin off the bench and Young would be a perfect I think. As for Harden I think it's a long shot and heard during the series that Okc would do anything to sign both harden and Ibaka.

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Too early for off season talk
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James Harden would be great. But I doubt it can happen.
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seanconnery666 wrote:
Too early for off season talk


Our season's over so our offseason has begun. Off season talk shall now begin

But yeah, these rumors are ridiculous. Harden will sign for what? 3 mil a year? Ahahah what a joke. Even young is far fetched. I'm telling, if Kobe restructared his contract to about 18-20 a year, that would be the greatest off season move
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James Harden is under contract for next season, so the soonest he can become an option for the Lakers is the 2013 off-season. As it currently stands, we have ZERO shot at signing him that summer because of our salary cap situation. Our current salary liability for that season is $61,466,130 and that IS NOT counting what Bynum's salary will be. That is the salary of just four players - Kobe, Pau, Metta, and Steve Blake.

With just these four players we are already over the cap, which means that the only way we can get him is via trade this summer or sign and trade the following summer. I'd be willing to bet anyone on here that we will not trade for him this summer. I'm almost as positive that we will not be able to pull off a sign and trade for him the following summer. I don't believe that we have any pieces that the Thunder are interested in, especially since both Pau and Bynum may be gone by that point in time.

The same holds true for Nick Young - we simply do not have any cap room to sign him as a free agent this summer, unless he is willing to sign for the veteran's minimum, which, in his case, would be $992,680 which is far less than what he got paid this season ($3,695,857) and far, far less than what he can command on the open market (I would guess around $6-7.5million).

The only way that we are going to make any changes to this team over the next two seasons is via trades for Pau and/or Bynum. That's it.

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Janglesjr wrote:
James Harden is under contract for next season, so the soonest he can become an option for the Lakers is the 2013 off-season. As it currently stands, we have ZERO shot at signing him that summer because of our salary cap situation. Our current salary liability for that season is $61,466,130 and that IS NOT counting what Bynum's salary will be. That is the salary of just four players - Kobe, Pau, Metta, and Steve Blake.

The same holds true for Nick Young - we simply do not have any cap room to sign him as a free agent this summer, unless he is willing to sign for the veteran's minimum, which, in his case, would be $992,680 which is far less than what he got paid this season ($3,695,857) and far, far less than what he can command on the open market (I would guess around $6-7.5million).


First of all, I'm almost sure Harden is a restricted fa, as is Ibaka and most people believe the thunder won't commit to both so one will walk. Second, Nick Young, 7.5 mils a year? Under the new cba. NOOOOOT.
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Who comes up with this BS. Hilarious. The season is over. Go play golf and breathe a little people.

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I would bet money we wont get Harden or even Nick Young next year.

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First of all, I'm almost sure Harden is a restricted fa, as is Ibaka and most people believe the thunder won't commit to both so one will walk. Second, Nick Young, 7.5 mils a year? Under the new cba. NOOOOOT.


From multiple sites that I have checked this morning, both Ibaka and Harden are under contract for next season - Harden at $5,820,416 and Ibaka at $2,253,061. Both of them become restricted free agents the summer of 2013. If you would like me to PM you some links to this information, I'd be happy to.

OKC has also stated that they strongly believe that they can re-sign both Ibaka and Harden, and based solely upon the numbers, it appears that they can do so. That being said, some team out there will most definitely offer Harden a near-maximum contract and, in that case, OKC would then have to decide.

I stated a salary range of Young of $6 million to $7.5 million. There are plenty of teams out there that could use a scoring threat like him. Let me here what you guess his salary will be and then we can make a friendly wager.

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I pass on Nick Young. As someone mentioned, he is the second coming of McGee. The man does not know the difference between a good and a bad shot. That's the last thing we need on this team, is a player who tries to be another Kobe.

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From multiple sites that I have checked this morning, both Ibaka and Harden are under contract for next season - Harden at $5,820,416 and Ibaka at $2,253,061. Both of them become restricted free agents the summer of 2013. If you would like me to PM you some links to this information, I'd be happy to.

OKC has also stated that they strongly believe that they can re-sign both Ibaka and Harden, and based solely upon the numbers, it appears that they can do so. That being said, some team out there will most definitely offer Harden a near-maximum contract and, in that case, OKC would then have to decide.

I stated a salary range of Young of $6 million to $7.5 million. There are plenty of teams out there that could use a scoring threat like him. Let me here what you guess his salary will be and then we can make a friendly wager.


I guess you're right about Harden, they've already excersised the option for next year. Nick Young won't make more then 5 mil I bet
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Every team uses the Lakers to gain some leverage in negotiations. If Harden did express interest in the Lakers (right now of all times) then it's his agent using us to drive up the price. Not going to happen. Plus, he's young and wants the money right now which we can't offer.

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Def-one-24-2 wrote:
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Wow, how can sources say that Harden is considering LA when his team is still in the playoffs? lol.

Would be awesome to have him on this team though, no doubt.


Money??


Money exactly!!!

And here we go! It has already begun. VISIONS OF GRANDEUR!

Ummm... did anyone take math in high school? The FACT of the matter is the Lakers have the most expensive player in basketball whose salary is going to take up most of the salary cap for the next few seasons in Mr. Bryant!!!!!!!!!

With the new CBA that is now in place, I hate to say this but....the Lakers are going to struggle even to make the playoffs for the remainder of Kobe's career.

That is unless we can convince some of these superstars that you guys all seem to LOVE to come to the Lakers and play for peanuts and a pat on the back.

Not going to happen.

The Lakers best bet at this point moving forward into the future is to trade as many pieces as possible for DRAFT PICKS!!! It's re-build time fellas.

We might get lucky and nab some of these quality type of young players the Thunder were able to assemble through the draft and capture lightening in a bottle while Kobe is still playing, but those are some slim odds!

Reality is, this entire team could completely change next season with the only remaining piece being Bryant. Facts is facts, salaries is salaries, and the cap is the cap. PERIOD.


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mhf94 wrote:
I guess you're right about Harden, they've already excersised the option for next year. Nick Young won't make more then 5 mil I bet


I'll take that bet. He nearly made $4 million this season and there are ALWAYS teams out there willing to overpay a player (think Portland). This guy has the ability to average 18-20 a game and it's worth it at $5 million up to $8 million per.

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Hell no to jeremy lin. He was a one hit wonder. too much turnovers especially coming to the Lakers who was horrible had creating turnovers.

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Jeremy Lin...Iono...I'm with Jason terry, I think he was a product of his environment. James Harden, ha, you're delusional if you think the Thunder will let him go. That team will take paycuts to stay there. As for Nick Young, don't we have enough inconsistent players on our team? Hell no.

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Can I have this PLEASEEEE SO BADDD!

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both James Harden, Nick young were fan of Lakers and both LA native and loved the lakers before they played NBA so yea... DO IT mitch Harden can be a star and not differ to Durant/Westbrooke
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Nick Young? No, the Lakers don't need a hot and cold shooter.

James Harden? The Lakers can't get him unless they trade Gasol or Bynum. He wants a max cat contract.

Jeremy Lin? No. He's good, and people claiming that he's the product of D'Antoni's system are as ignorant as the people that claim Kobe is just a chucker. The Knicks can match every offer he gets, as he's a restricted agent, and there is no way the Lakers can get him unless they offer him a backloaded contract, which would pay him 12 million in the 3rd year of his contract and 13 million in the 4th year. Not ideal for the Lakers' cap situation and not worth it at this point in time.
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Nick Young? No, the Lakers don't need a hot and cold shooter.

James Harden? The Lakers can't get him unless they trade Gasol or Bynum. He wants a max cat contract.

Jeremy Lin? No. He's good, and people claiming that he's the product of D'Antoni's system are as ignorant as the people that claim Kobe is just a chucker. The Knicks can match every offer he gets, as he's a restricted agent, and there is no way the Lakers can get him unless they offer him a backloaded contract, which would pay him 12 million in the 3rd year of his contract and 13 million in the 4th year. Not ideal for the Lakers' cap situation and not worth it at this point in time.

did you see how Mario Chalmers embarrassed Jeremy Lin the last time he played Miami, no wonder he didnt want to come back and play the in the playoff.

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Jeremy Lin isn't an option either....unless, of course, he is willing to play for the minimum.

People need to start educating themselves on the CBA, salary cap, etc. You cannot just go out and sign a player because they are a free agent. We are so far over the cap it is ridiculous, which prevents us from signing free agents unless they are willing to play for the veteran's minimum.

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did you see how Mario Chalmers embarrassed Jeremy Lin the last time he played Miami, no wonder he didnt want to come back and play the in the playoff.


I saw the game, and I saw what happened. Guess what, it was one game, and he left a lot of players embarrassed before then.

Let's go over a few things:

1. The Miami game was the 2nd game of a back-to-back after playing Atlanta, while the Heat had a day of rest.
2. He had no help from the Knicks' resident superstars. Miami's entire defense was geared towards stopping not Carmelo Anthony, not Amar'e Stoudemire, but Jeremy Lin, because they knew the other two wouldn't do anything for the Knicks.
3. He was playing injured. He hadn't recovered from his ankle injury when playing for the Bayhawks, and he'd sprained his ankle when playing against the Lakers, which he hadn't recovered from either.
4. He'd been playing 40+ minutes almost every game after barely playing minutes.
5. He's not a superstar. He's a starting-caliber Point Guard, but he is not a superstar, and he needs time to improve from what was essentially his rookie season.

After considering these factors, it amuses me when people tell me he's no good just because of that one game. Regarding not coming back from injury, a meniscus repair takes longer to come back from than just a meniscus removal, because the meniscus needs time to heal. Of course he wouldn't be back from the playoffs. He couldn't jump or cut, and he was out of shape. Would he be a net positive for the Knicks in the playoffs? I don't think he would have, and he didn't think so either.

I mean, I just saw Chris Paul get embarrassed in a few games these playoffs when the whole Spurs defense keyed in on him. I guess I should say he's no superstar because no superstar should get embarrassed like that? Come on now.

The Lakers could realistically sign Lin to a contract if they gave him the MLE for the first 2 years and backloaded the next 2, but I don't think Lin would be worth 12/13 million dollars. I'd prefer the Lakers pursued someone else.
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we are Lakers ffs we are bullies we dont care about luxury tax cause we got money like that.. oh I forgot jim buss is the owner now..

we are screwed
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we are Lakers ffs we are bullies we dont care about luxury tax cause we got money like that.. oh I forgot jim buss is the owner now..

we are screwed


You have to care about he Lux tax with the new CBA if your going to sign FA.
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Lol! The lakers had an opportunity to get harden, nick young last season, but instead they went out and got Murphy, mcroberts.
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I think Harden definitely sees a huge opportunity for himself here.

Given that he would be entering in the 2013-14 season (if he comes at all), a 35 year old Kobe Bryant would certainly be on his way out of the game. At that point, the Lakers will be looking hard(en!) for someone to step in for Kobe and take the reins of the NBA's marquee franchise.

Few people fit the role better than Harden. He's a perimeter scoring threat who can compete with the absolute best. The Lakers know that, and James knows that. Considering he's been a reserve all of his career, a big role change could seem all the more appealing. He also grew up in Los Angeles as a Lakers fan. The draw of being the new face of the Lakers is enticing to say the least...

I wouldn't mind trading Gasol this summer for a high pick and cap relief, giving us more flexibility for next year's offseason. Kobe won't like it, but hey, no one liked Kobe this past playoffs. He's on the way down.
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Fckk james harden. I dont care how good he is he's a b*tch
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Axle wrote:
Lol! The lakers had an opportunity to get harden, nick young last season, but instead they went out and got Murphy, mcroberts.


How did they have an opportunity to get Harden or Nick Young? They got Murphy because he came for the veteran's minimum and McRoberts for the MLE because those were the only ways they could get free agents with their cap situation.
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OKC will not let Harden go to the Lakers, they will make a deal with an eastern team.

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Well the Lakers have huge money coming from there new cable deal.I have read the money is bigger than ever coming in with this deal.The money will be paid out to the Lakers starting this season.Bye bye KCAL9.Hello super rich Lakers franchise.They can afford all these players but the CBA makes it a bit tricky.
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