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Post Subject: Kobe, Brown call out Bynum and Gasol
 Posted: May 11, 2012 - 10:52 AM PST
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DENVER " In even tones but no uncertain terms, greatly raising the stakes without raising their voices, the coach of the Lakers and the star of the Lakers called out big men Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol after the 113-96 loss to the Nuggets on Thursday that forced a Game 7 in the first-round series.
Already facing pressure to step up their play as the Lakers’ advantage of size and inside play goes to waste, Gasol and Bynum were moved even more into the crosshairs by Mike Brown and Kobe Bryant, both clearly frustrated by Gasol managing three points on one-of-10....Please log in to view the entire post.
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:20 PM PST
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On the offensive end, they’re doing a good job of sitting in our laps and coming and double-teaming. It hasn’t been easy to get into any kind of rhythm….”
This is what baffles me. We have 2-3 guys that can consistently draw double teams, yet never seem to find an open man. A double team ALWAYS means a man is left completely unguarded and wide open.
How an "elite" team like the Lakers cannot seem to execute, or at least take advantage, against double teams, really upsets me. |
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BiggestLakersFan
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:50 PM PST
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| The problem is not whether the "elite" players can draw double teams or not, the problem lies in the fact that once the star players pass out of the double team, our role players do not know what to do with it. We do not have a consistent 3 point shooter who can spread the floor and so the Nuggets sag off of our perimeter players and focus strictly on our bigs, which makes life for our bigs that much more miserable. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 02:48 PM PST
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BiggestLakersFan wrote:
The problem is not whether the "elite" players can draw double teams or not, the problem lies in the fact that once the star players pass out of the double team, our role players do not know what to do with it. We do not have a consistent 3 point shooter who can spread the floor and so the Nuggets sag off of our perimeter players and focus strictly on our bigs, which makes life for our bigs that much more miserable.
Exactly! We should be killing the Nuggets with all of the open looks, but our guys are scared to shoot! How many times did we see Ramon, Matt, or Blake pass up an open look? Face it, we have the worst perimeter shooting team in the playoffs and even if we beat Denver tomorrow, teams have the blueprint. Drew has still not learned how to handle a double-team, which makes sense because it's the first year he's had to deal with it, and Pau simply can't/won't handle the physicality that teams are bringing against him. How he can't score over a guy who is about 5 inches shorter than him is mind-boggling. Gasol has become a perimeter player and has seemed to have lost his low-post skills.
I was sickened and embarrassed by our team's effort last night. Let's hope Ron-Ron gives us the energy we need. I think he'll be big either helping to lock down Galinari and/or Andre Miller. |
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Dundie2k
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 03:16 PM PST
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| They both suck and I hate them. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 03:35 PM PST
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BiggestLakersFan wrote:
The problem is not whether the "elite" players can draw double teams or not, the problem lies in the fact that once the star players pass out of the double team, our role players do not know what to do with it. We do not have a consistent 3 point shooter who can spread the floor and so the Nuggets sag off of our perimeter players and focus strictly on our bigs, which makes life for our bigs that much more miserable.
IMO the Lakers do have a consistent 3pt shooter who is not SCARED to shoot, but he is rotting in the bench. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 04:32 PM PST
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| Exactly. Put goudelock in MIKE BROWN!! |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 04:55 PM PST
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We have guys passing up WIDE open shots for sure. And the hesitation is immediate right when they touch the ball. They don't even wanna think shot. It's so utterly ridiculous to me that Goudelock was allowed to rot on the bench as Def-one-24-2 put it above. I had a feeling that decision during the year was going to bite us in the butt at some point. Now I think it has. But at least Brown was stubborn and consistent in his choice. I know he has his reasons for doing so.
Pau simply MUST be willing to drive hard to the basket if he's missing any of his open mid-range shots at all. If he's not spreading the court with his shots then he has to break down some defense in other ways.
Additionally, you can see how no one is moving after they've passed out to an open "shooter" so everything freezes on the court. I'm hoping we mess with Denver a bit by posting up Metta in a mismatch. He's both a willing scorer and a willing passer. At least he is normally. Who knows what he's going to be like after that layoff. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 05:08 PM PST
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markiemarks wrote:
Exactly. Put goudelock in MIKE BROWN!!
I'd almost be more ticked off about Goudelock if he's put in as a last ditch effort. It's too late to make that move now, or at least I think it is. I don't think he's played in two months! There's no excuse for not using a guy like G-Lock with that kind of scoring talent, or at least keeping him somewhat fresh. And he proved that he's not just a gunner either. Makes no sense at all. It's the biggest mystery of the year to me that Brown would shut him out entirely like he has, no matter whether he's a rookie or not. I think Brown was almost scared to put him in the lineup in garbage time last night for fear that he might hit a few 3-pt shots in a few minutes or something and make the coach look bad. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 05:17 PM PST
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LakerRRTX wrote:
markiemarks wrote:
Exactly. Put goudelock in MIKE BROWN!!
I'd almost be more ticked off about Goudelock if he's put in as a last ditch effort. It's too late to make that move now, or at least I think it is. I don't think he's played in two months! There's no excuse for not using a guy like G-Lock with that kind of scoring talent, or at least keeping him somewhat fresh. And he proved that he's not just a gunner either. Makes no sense at all. It's the biggest mystery of the year to me that Brown would shut him out entirely like he has, no matter whether he's a rookie or not. I think Brown was almost scared to put him in the lineup in garbage time last night for fear that he might hit a few 3-pt shots in a few minutes or something and make the coach look bad.
He played in the final game of the season against the Kings was 4 for 12 in FG but 3 out of 5 in 3 pts to give the Lakers 11 pts. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 05:19 PM PST
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 05:21 PM PST
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LakerRRTX wrote:
markiemarks wrote:
Exactly. Put goudelock in MIKE BROWN!!
I'd almost be more ticked off about Goudelock if he's put in as a last ditch effort. It's too late to make that move now, or at least I think it is. I don't think he's played in two months! There's no excuse for not using a guy like G-Lock with that kind of scoring talent, or at least keeping him somewhat fresh. And he proved that he's not just a gunner either. Makes no sense at all. It's the biggest mystery of the year to me that Brown would shut him out entirely like he has, no matter whether he's a rookie or not. I think Brown was almost scared to put him in the lineup in garbage time last night for fear that he might hit a few 3-pt shots in a few minutes or something and make the coach look bad.
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 05:29 PM PST
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 05:37 PM PST
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| Matt Barnes hasnt been afraid to shoot...he is just afraid to make apparently. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 07:28 PM PST
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| this game ought to define some contracts. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 07:48 PM PST
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| this is the last hurrah for this team.it will be broken up after this season. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 08:12 PM PST
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 10:48 AM PST
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LakerRRTX wrote:
markiemarks wrote:
Exactly. Put goudelock in MIKE BROWN!!
I'd almost be more ticked off about Goudelock if he's put in as a last ditch effort. It's too late to make that move now, or at least I think it is. I don't think he's played in two months! There's no excuse for not using a guy like G-Lock with that kind of scoring talent, or at least keeping him somewhat fresh. And he proved that he's not just a gunner either. Makes no sense at all. It's the biggest mystery of the year to me that Brown would shut him out entirely like he has, no matter whether he's a rookie or not. I think Brown was almost scared to put him in the lineup in garbage time last night for fear that he might hit a few 3-pt shots in a few minutes or something and make the coach look bad.
I think you might be right on the money. That is the only reason why I think M Brown could get fired and that is he has not utilized the talent he has on the bench at the right time. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:00 PM PST
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| He gets fired becoz he dont have the cajones and tell kobe to give that ball to Bynum inside early in the game... |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:07 PM PST
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MSDS wrote:
He gets fired becoz he dont have the cajones and tell kobe to give that ball to Bynum inside early in the game...
Also because he doesn't have the cajones to sit Bynums Lazy a** down. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:14 PM PST
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| IF you want your superstar big to do things for you,,,you gotta go to him early and the rest will be easy for the jumpshooters.. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:33 PM PST
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Def-one-24-2 wrote:
IMO the Lakers do have a consistent 3pt shooter who is not SCARED to shoot, but he is rotting in the bench.
What did Goudelock do to be treated like a pariah. Brown didn;t even put him in the blowout game. This is just ploain stupid. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:37 PM PST
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BaadMaster wrote:
Def-one-24-2 wrote:
IMO the Lakers do have a consistent 3pt shooter who is not SCARED to shoot, but he is rotting in the bench.
What did Goudelock do to be treated like a pariah. Brown didn;t even put him in the blowout game. This is just ploain stupid.
Nobody knows what Goudelock did to piss him off. It's a great mystery.
I hope this does not continue next year. |
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