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Post Subject: 2012 Offseason
 Posted: May 11, 2012 - 12:00 AM PST
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| I know, some of you may think i'm jumping the gun, but judging by the way the Lakers have been playing lately, I truly feel it wont be long before the Lakers get knocked off by the Thunder, if the Nuggets don't do so in game 7. So... I just wanted to hear you guys' opinions on what needs to be done in the off-season by the FO and what you think will end up happening. I hope they amnesty Blake and trade Pau for some depth. |
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Post Subject: RE: 2012 Offseason
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 12:13 AM PST
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Dont amnesty blake, trade him with pau OR bynum. Sign ray allen or someone whos a REAL SHOOTER. While our shooters have been attrocious this year our bigs should share half the blame for letting themselves be pushed out if their sweet spots.
Bynum... Hmmm I knew his season was fools gold. The proof is denver made the adjusment after game 2 and has been working since. In the regular season in which you only play a team once then move on to another, no one exposed bynum until round 1 of the playoffs. Just like mitch and jbuss let it b known in the regular season Bynum is TRADEABLE!! |
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Post Subject: RE: 2012 Offseason
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 12:16 AM PST
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| The thing about Steve Blake is that his contract lies smack dab between foolishness and wastefulness. He doesn't make enough for it to be worth using our one and only amnesty. Unfortunately, he makes enough where it hurts our cap situation and depth significantly. There is nothing more I would like to see than Steve Blake out of town. |
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Post Subject: RE: 2012 Offseason
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 12:59 AM PST
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I guess,Lakers will actively pursue trading Gasol come draft day..
I am hoping somehow we can get Gilchrist,if not Davis(sounds like a pipe-dream I know)
Whatever happens this post-season(except Championship),I believe Lakers will try to lower their pay-roll by trading away Gasol. |
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Post Subject: RE: 2012 Offseason
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:31 AM PST
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| i would Blake on any deal even if he is included on Dwight deal. |
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Post Subject: RE: 2012 Offseason
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:38 AM PST
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| There's honestly not much the Lakers can do with Kobe's and Gasol's contracts. Signing 3-point shooters that can play some defense is the real priority with this team. A Gasol for Ryan Anderson deal is definitely on my mind, but I'm still wondering if that's giving too much. |
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Post Subject: RE: 2012 Offseason
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:45 AM PST
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| Kobe needs to ask himself this and think hard 6 rings or 30 mill he needs to restructure his contract with the new CBA lakers can't put the best talent around him. & as for Gasol They should tell him either take a paycut 13-15 mill or trade him for a true 3rd option. the only person I'll take for him is Al jefferson |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:46 AM PST
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thatguyoverthere wrote:
There's honestly not much the Lakers can do with Kobe's and Gasol's contracts. Signing 3-point shooters that can play some defense is the real priority with this team. A Gasol for Ryan Anderson deal is definitely on my mind, but I'm still wondering if that's giving too much.
Waay too much man. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:51 AM PST
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| blake contract isn't wastefulness he can be traded he has 2 yrs 8 mill left. teams love expiring contracts or contracts that can be bought out to get under the cap. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:54 AM PST
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thatguyoverthere wrote:
There's honestly not much the Lakers can do with Kobe's and Gasol's contracts. Signing 3-point shooters that can play some defense is the real priority with this team. A Gasol for Ryan Anderson deal is definitely on my mind, but I'm still wondering if that's giving too much.
way too much, ryan anderson is worst than gasol, he only chuck 3s |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 02:14 AM PST
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| Gasol is worth for a Lowry+role type of deal or Granger+role, or 3 role players |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 02:16 AM PST
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AyeDGAF wrote:
Gasol is worth for a Lowry+role type of deal or Granger+role, or 3 role players
seesh what happened to Pau. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 02:20 AM PST
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| no team would want to give up there star player for a 19million player who is in his early mid 30s and is declining fast his not even considered a star anymore. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:18 PM PST
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| The way Pau is playing he is killing his value and at 19 million there will be very few offers. I see him being dealt similarly to LO. I hope this is not true but ask yourself who wants a 19 million dollar scarecrow of a player? |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:26 PM PST
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| I really thought they'd deal Pau for a package around Derrick Williams,but the way Pau's been playing Minnesota wouldn't trade him for Anthony Randolph. He sucks so much right now. Add that to last year's playoffs and I don't know many teams eager to get 19 million for a guy who should playing in the WNBA. Bynum for Dwight, if Dwight signs an extension, IS a no-brainer. I hope you all have realized that. Maybe Bynum is the most talented offensively and can even have more potential overall, but he doesn't care sht about winning a championship anymore and his effort is only there 25% of the time. If they can trade Pau + Drew for R. Anderson, Dwight and JJ for example, I'd do it in a heartbeat |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:35 PM PST
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 01:39 PM PST
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| We have way too many glaring needs on this roster, and no cap room to work with so yeah Teagle true dat |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 03:22 PM PST
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| pau's outty 5000 and probably drew fake @$$ too!! |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 03:29 PM PST
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| People who should not be on the team come next season: Pau. Blake, Sessions, McRoberts, Murphy, and Morris. A contract restructure on Bryants contract would be amazing with the new CBA even he isnt worth roughly 30mil a season(hurts me to say), and Pau is losing value very fast we need to try and get something for him before we are stuck with him and his contract. All the "role" players havent been playing their roles so its time to find players who will. Blake is scared to shoot the ball, Sessions just doesnt fit the team well, McRoberts and Murphy lost their time to a mid season pick up and Morris never gets to see the floor. |
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Posted: May 11, 2012 - 03:32 PM PST
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I think a llama would play with more heart than Gasol in these playoffs. This dude is M.I.A....AGAIN!
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Post Subject: Get rid of the coach!
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 06:02 PM PST
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| The first game vs. Denver, every Laker looked like an All-star, including Pau. Second game was very good, not great...then downhill from there. Players don't become bad overnight. Pau is still Pau from the first game. My take is that Denver has made excellent adjustments that have resulted in taking Pau and others out of their respective comfort zones. What those adjustments are, I'm not sure...I'm not that much of a student of the game. But, Denver has gotten better through the series, and Lakers worse. Blame must go on staff (at least a big share). |
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Post Subject: RE: Get rid of the coach!
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 07:59 PM PST
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| All i know is the Lakers need a couple dead eye outside shooters. |
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Post Subject: RE: Get rid of the coach!
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 10:31 PM PST
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| I think that we have to trade Pau. We probably wont get equal talent but if we can get two decent role players and cut salary I'd do it. We simply cant afford to pay him 19mil next season and be competitive. Kobe and Bynum arent going anywhere. Trade Pau, Amnesty World Peace and try to get anyone to take Steve Blake. That would open up some cap room to sign other players. |
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Post Subject: RE: Get rid of the coach!
Posted: May 11, 2012 - 11:24 PM PST
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id offer nash 9million per year on a 3 year deal. we can use our TPE to get him in a sign&trade.(TPE has a 100k buffer)
he would solve our 2 biggest problems on offense. 1)another shot creator other than kobe and 2) the CONSISTENT outside shooting we desperately need.
other than that i hope we ship pau off for an expiring contract and a pick or player(to WAS for rashard and their top 5 pick? gives wash the top FCrt in the east. <wishful thinking..in know 
we are the Lakers and theres no player that doesnt want to play here(D12 doesnt count since he obviously doesnt care about winning)
it wouldnt surprise me if we end up with deron williams or another great player. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 10:22 AM PST
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i like the idea of trying to trade with indy... granger and some fillers for gasol. then revisit the bynum for howard situation. resign sessions, amnesty metta. make sure blake is a throw in for one of the deals made. also gotta pick up hill's option, i like his hustle.
every time i think about our pau trade options i get so pissed at stern for nixing the paul scenario. whether or not we had pulled off the howard deal having paul and kobe together would of been incredible and i am confident we'd be contending for a title this year. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 10:39 AM PST
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| I think Kobe should go meet with D12 during the offseason and try to recruit him to come play for the Lakers. I would still gladly take D12 over AB. At least D12 gives it every night and protects the paint night in, night out. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 10:42 AM PST
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kbp24 wrote:
I think Kobe should go meet with D12 during the offseason and try to recruit him to come play for the Lakers. I would still gladly take D12 over AB. At least D12 gives it every night and protects the paint night in, night out.
his defense prowess would take us to the next level. not to mention he can handle the doubles. i think bynum is good, he's just not a superstar like D12. what about trying to get beasley for the MLE. i know there had been lots of talk about him coming to the lakers, would he sign for that??? |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 11:51 AM PST
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They don't look impressive right now, but if we keep all of our core guys, I'd love to see us get Andre Miller. He's old but still very effective and would fit well with our starting unit. Keep Sessions to groom and run a quicker second unit. If we can beat Denver in game 7, then I believe that Andre will have never gotten out of the first round. Would he take the vet minimum to play for a contender? If so, we'd have the mini mid level to try to get a shooter like Belinelli or Novak. Resign Hill. Try to trade McRoberts and or Blake with TPE for Beasley.
I still believe in our guys but we need better role players for sure. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 12:27 PM PST
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| I think Dymes is on track with trading Pau to Washington. If we added Blake and MWP to that deal and took on Baltche and Mack I don't think it is a reach to get their pick. Another option for Pau is to New Orleans for Okafor and Smith as well as their number ten pick. Not as much long term cap relief but better talent. I would seriously look at trading Bynum . Good options to me would be Detroit for Monroe, Knight, and Villanueva or to Portland along with McRoberts for Aldridge, Mathews and their number 11 pick. That, plus a coach and we might come out ok. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 12:43 PM PST
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| i see us trading pau and getting a high draft pick. only players i want back is kobe, bynum, morris, glock, ebanks, hill, eyenga. trade the other ones mcroberts, blake, pau. let murphy, barnes, sessions walk. amnesty mwp. then draft a hight draft pick, and sign some players that actually can make an outside shot on a regular basis. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:04 PM PST
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| do you guys know which pgs are going to be on the market this offseason. For some reason, Sessions isn't cutting it for me. He cant play a lick of defense and he isnt doing what he was brought here to do(drive to the hoop and create shots for the bigs and shooters). |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:11 PM PST
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TruWarrior37 wrote:
do you guys know which pgs are going to be on the market this offseason. For some reason, Sessions isn't cutting it for me. He cant play a lick of defense and he isnt doing what he was brought here to do(drive to the hoop and create shots for the bigs and shooters).
Deron Williams is the only one that comes to mind. We got about a snowball's chance in hell in getting him though. |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:12 PM PST
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Id say amnesty kobe to save a ton of money...maybe trade pau and sessions for dwill and mr kardashian plus either wallace or gerald green ... if kobe gets amnestied he most likely will go to the nets.. that russian will pay him, so him and pau will be teamates again along with lopez thats a pretty good team,,
But the lakers will now have a pure point guard that can really pass and score if he needs to and able to balance what the team needs in each situation... lakers becomes more athletic and a better defender... and Bynum becomes the focal point with no interruption... |
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Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:14 PM PST
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MSDS wrote:
Id say amnesty kobe to save a ton of money...maybe trade pau and sessions for dwill and mr kardashian plus either wallace or gerald green ... if kobe gets amnestied he most likely will go to the nets.. that russian will pay him, so him and pau will be teamates again along with lopez thats a pretty good team,,
But the lakers will now have a pure point guard that can really pass and score if he needs to and able to balance what the team needs in each situation... lakers becomes more athletic and a better defender... and Bynum becomes the focal point with no interruption...
Go read my comment on the game thread it's going to burst your bubble. |
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Posted: May 13, 2012 - 01:54 AM PST
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| We should try to trade for Josh smith imagine him and Bynum how beast our d would be with both of them |
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Posted: May 14, 2012 - 04:19 AM PST
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Sessions started out hot when he first came to LA but he's cooled off considerably since then. I'm not sure if it's him or if it's just the general dysfunction of the team.
If Pau doesn't step up these playoffs I'd probably also be for trading him this offseason. I could roll with a Pau + filler for Josh Smith + filler. Or trade Pau to a lottery team for one of their top players and their 1st round pick. |
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Posted: May 21, 2012 - 01:02 PM PST
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Milwaukee's roster is so flawed right now. A Jennings/Ellis backcourt won't work. They have too many power forwards and no true center. What about something like Pau and Dunleavy to Houston, Kevin Martin, Dalembert and Marcus Morris to Milwaukee, Brandon Jennings, Ilyasova (sign and trade) and Sanders to Lakers.
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Lowry/Dragic if they resign him
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Jennings/Sessions
Kobe/Glock (maybe Belinelli thru FA)
Artest/Ebanks(still hoping for Beasley with TPE)
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Bynum/Sanders
Probably need to get Hou to give Mil one of their 1sts too. |
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