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Drew has to be a focal point if kobe wants to win his sixth ring,,, if he still wants to be the guy its a hopeless case.. he is too inconsistent with his FG% plus he's lazy on the defensive end...


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lakerdude, what you say is not the truth. It makes you look like you don't understand the game and you just do it to irritate people in this forum. If you approve of the way Andrew played yesterday, then you just don't under stand what that boy has to do in his position. He hardly rebounded, very poor defense and letting little guys like Lawson just go up and score. Let Mcgee look like the best center in the nba. Sorry lakerdude, but Bynum was pathetic. I hate to say it, but that is the truth, and I am a Bynum supporter. Just imagine what I would say if I didn't like him. You just like to kiss his w***s
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lakerdude, what you say is not the truth. It makes you look like you don't understand the game and you just do it to irritate people in this forum. If you approve of the way Andrew played yesterday, then you just don't under stand what that boy has to do in his position. He hardly rebounded, very poor defense and letting little guys like Lawson just go up and score. Let Mcgee look like the best center in the nba. Sorry lakerdude, but Bynum was pathetic. I hate to say it, but that is the truth, and I am a Bynum supporter. Just imagine what I would say if I didn't like him. You just like to kiss his w***s



He hardly rebounded? He got 12. That was one rebound more than Shaq's career average. At least Drew went 5 for 11 instead of 7 for 23, what's the excuse you have for that? When Drew shot 40% when Kobe was out you blasted him. Kobe shot 30% last night. Explain away that poor performance without referencing Drew please. I would like to hear your excuses for Kobe.

P.S. Please stop with your a Bynum supporter crap, it's a pathetic way of covering you butt when Drew kicks a$$. When Drew Fu*cks everybody up the rest of the way and gets finals MVP, you will comeback with the; I was always a Bynum supporter rant. Stop with it already. When Drew does what he's going to to do the rest of the way, please refrain from acting like you were always with him and that you always liked the dude. Stop trying to cover your a$$.


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Kobe has to take the back seat in order for this team to be successful, he's too inconsistent most of the time on his shooting and he is costing uswins.. his reluctance to accept being the 2nd option is going to cost him his hope for a sixth championship... Bynum is the lakers biggest advantage against any team he must be unleashed he is too good to be hold backed..
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lakerdude, what you say is not the truth. It makes you look like you don't understand the game and you just do it to irritate people in this forum. If you approve of the way Andrew played yesterday, then you just don't under stand what that boy has to do in his position. He hardly rebounded, very poor defense and letting little guys like Lawson just go up and score. Let Mcgee look like the best center in the nba. Sorry lakerdude, but Bynum was pathetic. I hate to say it, but that is the truth, and I am a Bynum supporter. Just imagine what I would say if I didn't like him. You just like to kiss his w***s



He hardly rebounded? He got 12. That was one rebound more than Shaq's career average. At least Drew went 5 for 11 instead of 7 for 23, what's the excuse you have for that? When Drew shot 40% when Kobe was out you blasted him. Kobe shot 30% last night. Explain away that poor performance without referencing Drew please. I would like to hear your excuses for Kobe.

P.S. Please stop with your a Bynum supporter crap, it's a pathetic way of covering you butt when Drew kicks a$$. When Drew Fu*cks everybody up the rest of the way and gets finals MVP, you will comeback with the; I was always a Bynum supporter rant. Stop with it already. When Drew does what he's going to to do the rest of the way, please refrain from acting like you like the dude. Stop trying to cover your a$$.


you are out of bounds on this one. Axle, is pointing out Bynum's poor defensive effort against Mcgee and yet you are just comparing the Shooting effectiveness of Kobe and Bynum. you can't erase the fact Mcgee outplayed him. with the caliber player Bynum is he should not allow Mcgee to have his career night. For Pau too, he let Faried do his thing they are both on fault and the rest are on fault too for poor shooting.

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This all mike brown's fault( potato head). He has Blake for the whole 4th. he was useless. the nuggets think they are the ****, we got news for you- the refs gave you bs calls.


I don't know what has happened to Blake: while he can sometimes hit open shots, he seems incapable of passing the ball without a turnover.

Denver celebrated like they had won the trophy. Now that we got that out of the way, the Lakers need to get on with business.
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It's everyone's fault why we lost. Yes bynum had a good (second half )and even if the ball would've went to him more and he made most of his shots we still would've lost because we weren't stopping anybody and drew is included in that also. In the third quarter we started getting back in the game not just because Kobe knocked down that 3 and drew was making shots, but we were actually defending and stopping them. Denver was on fire so all we would've been doing is trading shots back and forth and they would've kept the lead and we would've been waiting on the them to miss a shot instead of making them miss shots.
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lakerdude, what you say is not the truth. It makes you look like you don't understand the game and you just do it to irritate people in this forum. If you approve of the way Andrew played yesterday, then you just don't under stand what that boy has to do in his position. He hardly rebounded, very poor defense and letting little guys like Lawson just go up and score. Let Mcgee look like the best center in the nba. Sorry lakerdude, but Bynum was pathetic. I hate to say it, but that is the truth, and I am a Bynum supporter. Just imagine what I would say if I didn't like him. You just like to kiss his w***s



He hardly rebounded? He got 12. That was one rebound more than Shaq's career average. At least Drew went 5 for 11 instead of 7 for 23, what's the excuse you have for that? When Drew shot 40% when Kobe was out you blasted him. Kobe shot 30% last night. Explain away that poor performance without referencing Drew please. I would like to hear your excuses for Kobe.

P.S. Please stop with your a Bynum supporter crap, it's a pathetic way of covering you butt when Drew kicks a$$. When Drew Fu*cks everybody up the rest of the way and gets finals MVP, you will comeback with the; I was always a Bynum supporter rant. Stop with it already. When Drew does what he's going to to do the rest of the way, please refrain from acting like you like the dude. Stop trying to cover your a$$.


you are out of bounds on this one. Axle, is pointing out Bynum's poor defensive effort against Mcgee and yet you are just comparing the Shooting effectiveness of Kobe and Bynum.


I appreciate you trying to make a point , but if you are going to, please make a valid and true picture of what he said, not just one piece. He was dissing his rebounds, his poor defense against Lawson, who the guards should of been taking care of by the way, his lack of rebounds, and his pathetic play. He wasn't just talking about his defense against McGee. Did you read his whole post or just one sentence?

I.m out of bounds? Your out of bounds if your going to make short of what Axle was saying about Bynum, he called him pathetic. If I called Kobe pathetic you wouldn't have a word to say.


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Kobe has to take the back seat in order for this team to be successful, he's too inconsistent most of the time on his shooting and he is costing uswins.. his reluctance to accept being the 2nd option is going to cost him his hope for a sixth championship... Bynum is the lakers biggest advantage against any team he must be unleashed he is too good to be hold backed..

So how much should drew shoot the ball ? and how much should Kobe shoot?
since everything is about offense.
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you are out of bounds on this one. Axle, is pointing out Bynum's poor defensive effort against Mcgee and yet you are just comparing the Shooting effectiveness of Kobe and Bynum.

I appreciate you trying to make a point , but if you are going to, please make a valid and true picture of what he said, not just one piece. He was dissing his rebounds, his poor defense against Lawson, who the guards should of been taking care of by the way, his lack of rebounds, and his pathetic play. He wasn't just talking about his defense against McGee. Did you read his whole post or just one sentence?


hmm, okay. i would tell you the point and you are still out of bounds, Axle point out Bynum's poor defensive effort against Mcgee because it was Bynum's defensive assignment, but he let him have a career night, for Lawson it's been both the guard and the big man fault for letting Lawson score. but you are just stating Bynum and Kobe's Fg percentage which is out of bounds on what Axle is trying to point out which is his defense on Mcgee. as for rebounds he get 11 or 12 but he still got outrebounded by Mcgee, no excuse.

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you are out of bounds on this one. Axle, is pointing out Bynum's poor defensive effort against Mcgee and yet you are just comparing the Shooting effectiveness of Kobe and Bynum.

I appreciate you trying to make a point , but if you are going to, please make a valid and true picture of what he said, not just one piece. He was dissing his rebounds, his poor defense against Lawson, who the guards should of been taking care of by the way, his lack of rebounds, and his pathetic play. He wasn't just talking about his defense against McGee. Did you read his whole post or just one sentence?


hmm, okay. i would tell you the point and you are still out of bounds, Axle point out Bynum's poor defensive effort against Mcgee because it was Bynum's defensive assignment, but he let him have a career night, for Lawson it's been both the guard and the big man fault for letting Lawson score. but you are just stating Bynum and Kobe's Fg percentage which is out of bounds on what Axle is trying to point out which is his defense on Mcgee. as for rebounds he get 11 or 12 but he still got outrebounded by Mcgee, no excuse.



I'm out of bounds for for stating their fg%?, but he's not out of bounds for calling Bynum pathetic? Enlighten me dude. Would it have been in bounds if I told him Kobe was pathetic? Would that have been more appropriate?
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I.m out of bounds? Your out of bounds if your going to make short of what Axle was saying about Bynum, he called him pathetic. If I called Kobe pathetic you wouldn't have a word to say.[/



so you are saying the point of what Axle said is Bynum is pathetic? that's not what makes it out of bounds and you are missing the point. what can you say about Mcgee's career night on Bynum and whose fault is it who's defending him? who is assigned to defend and box out Mcgee? i didn't called Bynum pathetic ,Axle did. you and Axle should talk about that Pathetic thing. It's ok to me if you say Kobe pathetic because his poor shooting night and turnovers didn't help but for Bynum as well for letting Mcgee have a career night and as for the rest of the team who are on fault of the loss too.

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That was one rebound more than Shaq's career average. At least Drew went 5 for 11 instead of 7 for 23, what's the excuse you have for that? When Drew shot 40% when Kobe was out you blasted him. Kobe shot 30% last night. Explain away that poor performance without referencing Drew please. I would like to hear your excuses for Kobe.


it's clear you point out the 5 for 11 of Bynum and 7-23 of Kobe's field goal isn't that comparing? this was your first initial post on Axle's post . he didn't even state Kobe on his post while you are comparing Kobe and Bynum's FG. and he is just trying to point Bynum should not let Mcgee have a career night.

he is stating Bynum's defense on Mcgee and yet your response is comparing Bynum and Kobe's FG which is out of bounds.

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I.m out of bounds? Your out of bounds if your going to make short of what Axle was saying about Bynum, he called him pathetic. If I called Kobe pathetic you wouldn't have a word to say.[/



so you are saying the point of what Axle said is Bynum is pathetic? that's not what makes it out of bounds and you are missing the point. what can you say about Mcgee's career night on Bynum and whose fault is it who's defending him? who is assigned to defend and box out Mcgee? i didn't called Bynum pathetic ,Axle did. you and Axle should talk about that Pathetic thing. It's ok to me if you say Kobe pathetic because his poor shooting night and turnovers didn't help but for Bynum as well for letting Mcgee have a career night and as for the rest of the team who are on fault of the loss too.



If 16 and 15 is a career night, the dude shouldn't be in the league. You 2 act like he got 30 and 20 against him or something. Bynum had 18 and 7 in the 2nd half. He adjusted his game and kicked his butt while shutting Mcgee down in the 2nd half by allowing him only 7 points and 6 rebounds during that stretch. What's the problem?
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Bynum has to be the focal point,,, if he is featured consistently mcgee and all these clowns would be in foul trouble and gets tired...
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That was one rebound more than Shaq's career average. At least Drew went 5 for 11 instead of 7 for 23, what's the excuse you have for that? When Drew shot 40% when Kobe was out you blasted him. Kobe shot 30% last night. Explain away that poor performance without referencing Drew please. I would like to hear your excuses for Kobe.


it's clear you point out the 5 for 11 of Bynum and 7-23 of Kobe's field goal isn't that comparing? this was your first initial post on Axle's post . he didn't even state Kobe on his post while you are comparing Kobe and Bynum's FG. and he is just trying to point Bynum should not let Mcgee have a career night.

he is stating Bynum's defense on Mcgee and yet your response is comparing Bynum and Kobe's FG which is out of bounds.



Where have you been? Axle always knocks Drew and praises Kobe. His point was not to talk about Drews performance as a whole, it was to knock him down. He purposely says bad things about Bynum no matter what he does. The only way I can reply to this dude is to go back at him with a Kobe rant. He isn't just talking the ins and outs of the game, he makes a concerted effort to put Bynum down. It's a fact. Talk to him about being out of bounds, not me.
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That was one rebound more than Shaq's career average. At least Drew went 5 for 11 instead of 7 for 23, what's the excuse you have for that? When Drew shot 40% when Kobe was out you blasted him. Kobe shot 30% last night. Explain away that poor performance without referencing Drew please. I would like to hear your excuses for Kobe.


it's clear you point out the 5 for 11 of Bynum and 7-23 of Kobe's field goal isn't that comparing? this was your first initial post on Axle's post . he didn't even state Kobe on his post while you are comparing Kobe and Bynum's FG. and he is just trying to point Bynum should not let Mcgee have a career night.

he is stating Bynum's defense on Mcgee and yet your response is comparing Bynum and Kobe's FG which is out of bounds.



Where have you been? Axle always knocks Drew and praises Kobe. His point was not to talk about Drews performance as a whole, it was to knock him down. He purposely says bad things about Bynum no matter what he does. The only way I can reply to this dude is to go back at him with a Kobe rant. He isn't just talking the ins and outs of the game, he makes a concerted effort to put Bynum down. It's a fact. Talk to him about being out of bounds, not me.


No, you and axle talk about it i don't have any issue with this. it's clear that there is a personal issue between you two. in his post he didn't even state Kobe in there yet you bring up Kobe and compare his FG performance on Bynum. it was out of bounds . no connection . you didn't reply about for letting Mcgee having a career night on Bynum.

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Why would he bring up Kobe, he was just posting to trash Drew. There's no need for him to bring up Kobe. Why would he?
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Why would he bring up Kobe, he was just posting to trash Drew. There's no need for him to bring up Kobe. Why would he?


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No, you and axle talk about it i don't have any issue with this. it's clear that there is a personal issue between you two. in his post he didn't even state Kobe in there yet you bring up Kobe and compare his FG performance on Bynum. it was out of bounds . no connection . you didn't reply about for letting Mcgee having a career night on Bynum


it seems you misunderstood, you bring up Kobe and Axle didn't. yet you compare Kobe and Bynum FG's when he didn't even state Kobe in his post it's clear you are tho one who brought up Kobe. I'm out chow, thank you for healthy debate and no personal attacks have been included.

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Lakedude, You are missing the whole point of this discussion. First of all I am a laker fan and I don't have any personal bad feelings towards any laker player. But in order for me to not criticize a player like Bynum is that he has to play better then what he has shown me. So he had two great games and I praised him for it. But I expect him to get 18 to 20 rebounds a game. He is a big dude and should not have any problem getting that amount. I expect at least two block shots. I expect good defense and that is not allowing anybody to just waltz up to the goal and score. I expect him to score twenty or more a game. I will complement the man as doing a great job on the five spot. When they pass him the ball, I expect him to look where he is going to attack the rim or look for the open shooter right away, not several seconds later. He is holding the ball too long and allows the defense to set up on him.
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Lakedude, You are missing the whole point of this discussion. First of all I am a laker fan and I don't have any personal bad feelings towards any laker player. But in order for me to not criticize a player like Bynum is that he has to play better then what he has shown me. So he had two great games and I praised him for it. But I expect him to get 18 to 20 rebounds a game. He is a big dude and should not have any problem getting that amount. I expect at least two block shots. I expect good defense and that is not allowing anybody to just waltz up to the goal and score. I expect him to score twenty or more a game. I will complement the man as doing a great job on the five spot. When they pass him the ball, I expect him to look where he is going to attack the rim or look for the open shooter right away, not several seconds later. He is holding the ball too long and allows the defense to set up on him.



Bynum's doing fine. He just needs the ball. That's all it will take for us to win. Give Bynum the rock, and good things will happen.
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even lakeshowed called you out!! and what did u do cry! im not like msds!!!! but in truth you are! at least LSD who is a bynum fan is logical and releasable!! you and msds are not!! at all!!



I wonder why I got banned for personal attacks and this dude doesn't even get a warning for this comment. Where are all the mods at? Am I being discriminated against? If I told some dude he got called out and cried about about it and then reference him in the way he did me, I would be banned. What the heck is going on here?

This dude should get a at least a warning if not not banned for saying LSD is releasable. What the hell does that mean? Does that mean if someone grabbed a hold of him, he' could get free, or is it a sexual thing, lol? Either way he shouldn't be able to talk about me this way.

Is it cool if I go after someone and and personally attack them by saying they cry after they reply to another poster? Evidently it is. If this guy can do it, I guess I can. Or maybe the truth is that some mods that read this have something against me and don't care what insults are thrown at me, so they turn their heads. I just don't get it. Is personal attacks a rule for everyone, or just the ones that the mods don't get along with?


Way to make kobe+talent's assessment look correct. But I don't see anything wrong with what was posted. Kobe+talent was just calling a spade a spade.

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Way to make kobe+talent's assessment look correct. But I don't see anything wrong with what was posted. Kobe+talent was just calling a spade a spade.

If your not a mod, then you shouldn't reply. Are you and kobe+talent family or something? You both sound a like. Your comment is funny to me. it makes no sense.


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Kobe+talent=4morerings wrote:
even lakeshowed called you out!! and what did u do cry! im not like msds!!!! but in truth you are! at least LSD who is a bynum fan is logical and releasable!! you and msds are not!! at all!!


Kobe+talent=4morerings, Be careful with statements like this. Characterizing another member's posts, opinions or arguments as "crying" can easily be seen as a personal insult and has nothing to do with arguing your perspective. It's hard to imagine that you didn't consider that an insult as you made it so consider yourself warned to not do that again.

lakerdude, Your mention that the mods don't seem to care to keep things fair and even-handed couldn't be more baseless. I can only imagine that no mods have even been reading the end portion of this thread. It's in the game thread from yesterday. Don't assume that we're on here reading every single post, and especially in the game thread.

You guys can do whatever you want, but I would suggest you just move on. No one is likely to change their minds, no matter how many times the same idea is repeated over and over.
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why am i being drag into this,,, by the way great fight,,, money may won again...
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the only way for kobe to get his sixth ring is for him to become the greatest role player for Bynum.. he should cut to the basket harder, wait for drew to kick it back to him and make sure hits wide open shots I hope... instead of trying so hard of being the guy which he is not capable of... at this time of his career,kobe 's just too inconsistent and cant be trusted with too many turn over...
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