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Post Subject: Tyson Chandler wins Defensive Player of the Year
 Posted: May 01, 2012 - 07:32 PM PST
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Knicks center Tyson Chandler to be named NBA Defensive Player of the Year tomorrow at team practice facility, source tells @YahooSports.
https://twitter.com/#!/SpearsNBAYahoo/s ... 0721984512 |
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Post Subject: RE: Tyson Chandler wins Defensive Player of the Year
Posted: May 01, 2012 - 07:42 PM PST
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| Interesting, I thought it was going to be Ibaka. |
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Post Subject: RE: Tyson Chandler wins Defensive Player of the Year
Posted: May 01, 2012 - 07:51 PM PST
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| Ibaka is just a blocks stuffer, so he doesn't impact defense as much as Chandler does. This award is well-deserved. |
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Post Subject: RE: Tyson Chandler wins Defensive Player of the Year
Posted: May 01, 2012 - 08:46 PM PST
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| Personally, I wanted LeBron or Iggy to get it. |
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Posted: May 01, 2012 - 08:50 PM PST
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| NO WAY!!...Being a Knicks helps in terms of media votes I think.... |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 01:15 AM PST
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| Chandler never impressed me as being that good. |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 08:49 AM PST
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| Well deserved. Having a top 10 defense on a D'antoni team with no-defense guys like Melo, Stoudamire, Lin, JR Smith,etc. has to be credited highly to someone, and that someone is obviously Chandler. I hope he shows everyone he deserved it in game 3 against the Heat. |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 03:16 PM PST
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Tyson Chandler New York 45 25 11 311
Serge Ibaka OKC 41 24 17 294
Dwight Howard Orlando 18 23 27 186
LeBron James Miami 7 19 20 112
Kevin Garnett Boston 2 9 7 44
Tony Allen Memphis 4 3 7 36
Andre Iguodala Phila 1 7 7 33
Shawn Marion Dallas 2 2 1 17
Luol Deng Chicago 1 2 5 16
Josh Smith Atlanta 0 2 3 9
Joakim Noah Chicago 0 2 0 6
Marc Gasol Memphis 0 1 2 5
Chris Paul Clippers 0 1 2 5
Avery Bradley Boston 0 0 2 2
Mike Conley Memphis 0 0 2 2
Grant Hill Phoenix 0 0 2 2
Iman Shumpert New York 0 0 2 2
Greg Monroe Detroit 0 0 1 1
Dwyane Wade Miami 0 0 1 1
Russell Westbro OKC 0 0 1 1
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/05/02/dpoy-release/
Wow. Serge Ibaka came really close to winning. I think that LeBron, KG, Dwight, and Tony Allen deserved some of those votes. I mean, I like Serge Ibaka, but 41 first-place votes? Wow. |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 03:45 PM PST
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maraud wrote:
Chandler never impressed me as being that good.
I agree. Tyson Chandler really doesn't impress me. He's a serviceable player but not much more. |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 03:49 PM PST
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VS wrote:
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Tyson Chandler New York 45 25 11 311
Serge Ibaka OKC 41 24 17 294
Dwight Howard Orlando 18 23 27 186
LeBron James Miami 7 19 20 112
Kevin Garnett Boston 2 9 7 44
Tony Allen Memphis 4 3 7 36
Andre Iguodala Phila 1 7 7 33
Shawn Marion Dallas 2 2 1 17
Luol Deng Chicago 1 2 5 16
Josh Smith Atlanta 0 2 3 9
Joakim Noah Chicago 0 2 0 6
Marc Gasol Memphis 0 1 2 5
Chris Paul Clippers 0 1 2 5
Avery Bradley Boston 0 0 2 2
Mike Conley Memphis 0 0 2 2
Grant Hill Phoenix 0 0 2 2
Iman Shumpert New York 0 0 2 2
Greg Monroe Detroit 0 0 1 1
Dwyane Wade Miami 0 0 1 1
Russell Westbro OKC 0 0 1 1
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/05/02/dpoy-release/
Wow. Serge Ibaka came really close to winning. I think that LeBron, KG, Dwight, and Tony Allen deserved some of those votes. I mean, I like Serge Ibaka, but 41 first-place votes? Wow.
Kind of shocking to see that Andrew Bynum is not even on the list. I know Bynum is known for not playing defense on a consistent basis but when locked it on that end of the floor Bynum can defend with the best of them. |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 04:34 PM PST
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BiggestLakersFan wrote:
Kind of shocking to see that Andrew Bynum is not even on the list. I know Bynum is known for not playing defense on a consistent basis but when locked it on that end of the floor Bynum can defend with the best of them.
It's basically retarded that Bynum didn't make the list. He averaged more blocked shots than most of the centers on the list and Drew averaged more defensive rebounds than everyone on the list not named Dwight Howard.
I think it's because Drew has a reputation for being an offensive player, so his defensive contributions were largely overlooked. Some of these guys who got votes were on horrible teams who ranked worse than the Lakers defensively, didn't even make the playoffs, and their defensive statistics were worse than Drew's.
Why Greg Monroe got DPOY votes and Bynum didn't is anybody's guess. The Pistons were the 24th ranked defensive team in the regular season and Monroe averaged a whopping 0.7 blocks per game (Drew had 1.93 blocks per game) to go along with 6.0 defensive rebounds per game (Drew had 8.6 defensive boards per game), yet this guy gets DPOY votes and Drew gets nothing.
Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum were the only two players in the NBA who finished top 6 in both defensive rebounding and shot blocking averages for the 2011-12 season. Still, Drew gets no love for his defensive contributions. Pathetic fail by all the people who voted on this thing.
All I know is, Drew better get All-NBA 2nd team AT THE VERY LEAST or else I'm gonna be sending out some serious hate mail |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 05:12 PM PST
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LSD,
I think Drew did not get mentioned is because he was off and on defensivly on a game by game basis. If he played the way he has been playing lately, he would have been recognized. He is getting noticed now and I think that he will get recignition next year if he keeps doing what he has been doing. |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 05:17 PM PST
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Bynum is a media dud.
No marketing by the league, dour personality during interviews, no flashy moves, history of falling short of expectations from injuries, spats of immaturity plastered on TMZ - is it any wonder he doesn't get a favorable draw on an award given by the media? If the DPOY was voted on by opposing players (especially guards) you'd get a much different picture. |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 05:44 PM PST
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maraud wrote:
LSD,
I think Drew did not get mentioned is because he was off and on defensivly on a game by game basis. If he played the way he has been playing lately, he would have been recognized. He is getting noticed now and I think that he will get recignition next year if he keeps doing what he has been doing.
Seems hard to buy that argument because I'm not convinced that every single player who got votes for DPOY is really that much more consistent than Bynum defensively. I'm sure a lot of the guys on that list were just as inconsistent defensively, if not more inconsistent than Bynum, and most of them didn't even come close to surpassing Bynum's defensive impact.
Obviously they were NOT voting for players based on their defensive stats because Bynum's defensive stats are better than most people on that list. I think it is just an injustice and that's all. |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 05:48 PM PST
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gastank wrote:
Bynum is a media dud.
No marketing by the league, dour personality during interviews, no flashy moves, history of falling short of expectations from injuries, spats of immaturity plastered on TMZ - is it any wonder he doesn't get a favorable draw on an award given by the media? If the DPOY was voted on by opposing players (especially guards) you'd get a much different picture.
I can see how that makes sense. Most of the names on that list have more "sex appeal" than Bynum from a media standpoint. Hell, Tim Duncan didn't even make the list and even at his advanced age, I know for a fact he's still a better defensive player than most of the people on that list, including Tyson Chandler in my opinion. |
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Posted: May 02, 2012 - 08:12 PM PST
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| DPOY doesn't always have to deal with stats. I mean when Artest won it he averaged 1.6 steals and half a block a game. Although Bruce Bowen never won it, he was known as being one of the best defenders. |
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Posted: May 03, 2012 - 12:55 AM PST
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| Who the hell voted for KG!! He got 2 1st place voter!! |
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Posted: May 03, 2012 - 02:50 AM PST
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TheSHOEMAKER wrote:
DPOY doesn't always have to deal with stats. I mean when Artest won it he averaged 1.6 steals and half a block a game. Although Bruce Bowen never won it, it was known as being one of the best defenders.
True, if they were based on stats, certainly Bynum be there. |
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Posted: May 03, 2012 - 03:19 PM PST
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LSD,
Chandler is in NY and the New York sports writers can make anyone look like an all pro winner. They obviously wanted a Knicks player to get the Defensive player of the year since they can't get the scoring title or MVP. They do this in all sports that NY has a team. They are a very powerful sports lobby. |
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