The Official Kobe Bryant vs Andrew Bynum Thread

We have more than one star. we have Bynum. Give him 20 shots and we win. It's the truth. Just give him the damn shots. Give him a chance. 11 attempts is not enough.

Haha nah I wish, it's just my name so I thought it fit ha. But yeah, Sessions or someone else needs to kind of step up to Kobe in a way, and feed the big guys instead of always giving it to Kobe. I have no problem with Kobe taking a lot of shots as long as he's shooting around 45%. It's when he shoots in the 30% range that I get frustrated.

I agree Shoemaker. Do you make shoes btw, lol. If you do, make me a pair of Bynum hightops. This game was frustrating in a lot of ways. If you watch the game, I truly saw Drew begging for the ball and they went to something else. that's why we lost. The jumpers didn't fall, and the inside game was working. It's common knowledge that the best game is the the post game, yet we don't use it all the time. What a shame.

I'm kind of surprised that Kobe hasn't realized yet that he is dang near impossible to guard when he gets the ball around the paint. He has amazing footwork and a nice short range shot that it makes it tough for whoever is guarding him. I love the games or spurts in games where he keeps taking it to the hoop or working from the block because they are high percentage shots and he's effective from there.

I'm kind of surprised that Kobe hasn't realized yet that he is dang near impossible to guard when he gets the ball around the paint. He has amazing footwork and a nice short range shot that it makes it tough for whoever is guarding him. I love the games or spurts in games where he keeps taking it to the hoop or working from the block because they are high percentage shots and he's effective from there.

Yup. I don't get it either. Jordan used to live in that midrange area at the high post. Kobe has that game and we've all seen Kobe beast in the midrange paint like Jordan used to do. Kobe's field goal percentage for his career would be a lot higher if he didn't settle for so many long jumpers and 3-pointers.

kobe's too inconsistent he's not capable of leading this team he should juat becoome the greatest role player for Bynum, by cuttingharder, hitting wide open shots and dumping th eball inside.... kobe justs commits too many turnover... thats the reason we lose games

kobe's too inconsistent he's not capable of leading this team he should juat becoome the greatest role player for Bynum, by cuttingharder, hitting wide open shots and dumping th eball inside.... kobe justs commits too many turnover... thats the reason we lose games

Whoa- first of all- that's a lot of spelling errors- please refer to the site guidelines #2.

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And say what? Kobe, a role player??! Maybe in a couple years, but that is just non-sense now.

Whoa- first of all- that's a lot of spelling errors- please refer to the site guidelines #2.

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/PNphpBB2-view ... -2666.html

And say what? Kobe, a role player??! Maybe in a couple years, but that is just non-sense now.

I think one the reasons why Kobe doesn't shoot well against Okc is because thabo is longer than him he has to beat him off the dribble and even when he does that sometimes the spacing is bad with Drew, Pau , Serge and Perkins on the floor all big bodies

Thabo,Harden,Durant and Russ are a very difficult cover versus Sessions, Kobe and Blake we still need a perimeter guard.

I agree, thats why 90% of the offense goes thru Bynum ,this way OKC bigs easily gets into foul trouble...

Exactly. I said the same thing earlier in this thread (or maybe it was a different thread). Kobe often struggles against defenders who are athletic, tall, long, and fleet of foot. This has been true for many, many years.

Remember, against tall, long, athletic defenders, Kobe even struggled when he was in his prime. Take the 2004 NBA Finals for example. Kobe was just 24 or 25 years old, but Tayshaun prince pretty much shut Kobe down for most of that series. Kobe was horrifically inefficient against the length of Tayshaun's D. That was a huge determining factor in that series.

Defense is gonna be the Lakers only hope of winning the OKC series (a vain hope if you ask me) because Kobe, Drew, Pau, and others will struggle against OKC's stifling defense.

Where is Lakerdude on this one? Lol

Instead of some of you posters saying where is Lakerdude, why not contribute to the post instead? Stuff like this really degrades the site, if you have an opinion then let it be known instead of acting like school children watching a fight, truly pitiful.

Themagicontinues: I share in your frustration, however I don't share in your opinion. Drew frustrated me with his lack of effort, but at the same time I think I see where it comes from. You may have heard the term, keep your bigs happy, this is so true. Shaq, is a player who comes to mind, he's a big guy and big guys don't really like to come out the paint on pick and rolls, just simple as that. Yao Ming is another guy who didn't show hard on pick and roll and you really can't expect him to, he's not a 250 pound player and this is where I think a lot of you have unfair expectations. The rebounding is effort and he, being Drew is not exhibiting that because he's frustrated on the offensive end. Drew's double team handling is strictly selfishness and him being young, Drew is trying to play offense and is always getting doubled, but instead of having the patience to kick the ball out and repost, he is waiting for a teammate to go through or he's trying to shot over two guys which is terrible ball play. These things have nothing to do with a guy leading a team to rings or being a franchise player. The day you see Drew become the focus and not be ignored offensively is the day you see a happy. It and a big who has other parts of his game pick up.

Next game take a look at when the ball is suppose to go into Drew and the player looks at him and reverses the ball instead, Drew's hands and head will drop, he starts becoming frustrated from an easy pass not being laid into him and then his energy level will drop. This is why you should keep your big men happy.

What's scary about Bynum is that he can average 18 points, 10 rebounds, and 4 blocks in a playoff series while only giving an average effort. Wow, what a talent! Most guys try their best and can't put up those numbers for a playoffs series.

Oh, and Neg this thread. Neg it to DEATH! lol

AND it's spelled 'hustle'

i disagree i think drew can be a franchise player, and heres why dude got 17-7 on with less then DESIRED effort!! now our championship aspirations lie in drews giving 100% effort maybe even more! what we really need is a combination of drews game 1-2 but he hasnt showed that yet, i hope he can because against okc,sas, and the hated heat, drew will be the difference between us getting handled or us winning he is, outside of kobe the most important player on the team he is in the position pau was when we won our last 2 championships but he can have a much much bigger impact on defense the pau ever will.... if he wants too. i still think pau is better on offense he has just stepped back and is playing a roll in the team, and i point to when kobe was out pau stepped up and averaged 21 ppg and if you take out the 3 12-13-14 pt games his average was even better!! but he realizes its more important to get drew involved because wither we like it or not his offensive effects his overall game....

Thing is, it's fine for a team like Denver, but for a team like OKC or SA??? Bynums going to have to give full effort every game or we get rocked with a sweep like last year against Mavs.

The rebounding is effort and he, being Drew is not exhibiting that because he's frustrated on the offensive end..

I hate that attitude, and Andrew's is more demonstrative than I ever remember Shaq's being, Shaq WAS a franchise player, so I wouldn't try to compare him with Andrew at this point, if ever. Just rebound, block shots, and play help D, and this team has a shot, If he continues his lackluster play and staying unhappy because of a percieved "there ignoring me" attitude, we have no chance.

Bynum is a go to type of a player

You may hate that attitude, but a lot of bigs do have that. They figure why go all out on defense if the team doesn't get me involved on offense? Anyone who plays in the post like myself gets frustrated when a player looks you off hen you fight for good position and then you see someone else take a low percentage shot instead. It goes back to the saying, keep your bigs happy.

Bynum is a go to type of a player dont make him a role player we already have that in Jordan Hill, he hustles and picks up loose ball and if he scores its a bonus dotn expect Bynum to do that all the time he s way too good for that , Hill s a stronger version of Howard... If kobe shoots less and get Bynum the ball with his high FG% games would be easy for the lakers especially for kobe...
If the lakers wants to win the chip this yr. Bynum or even Pau has to be the focal point

Question is if kobe would be smart enough to know that... coz history shows if he's not the main guy hed be more than willing to bring the down the team with him...