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Post Subject: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver series?
 Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 01:23 PM PST
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In all my life, I have always wanted the Lakers to end every playoff series as fast as possible. Four games.
The reasons are obvious: less chance of injury and of course the longer a series goes the more chance you can lose.
After the game one route of Denver, so far so good. But its only one game and I have no doubt Denver will have more to offer, especially on the road.
So normally, I would want us to finish them off as soon as possible. But with The Big Elbow still having five games left on his suspension, and our hell matchup with Oklahoma next, would ending this series fast really be for the best?
If say we sweep Denver, then we have to play the first two away games against Oklahoma to start that series without The Big Elbow.
And to be honest, if we lose the first two games in Oklahoma, I just don't see us coming back to win that series.
So I would ask, for once, would it be better for the Lakers-Denver series to go say, six games, that way when we play Oklahoma we have the full team with the Big Elbow back in the fold and ready to go?
Or perhaps you feel comfortable enough with Ebanks not to care about the Metta situation vs the Thunder.
So that is my question to you: Would you rather us beat Denver as soon as possible and play a game or two against the Thunder without Metta, or would you rather have this series go six and have Metta there for the entire Thunder series? What is your thinking on this?
A poll is above for those who wish to vote. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 01:30 PM PST
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| One game less than the DAL-OKC series. I think we could overcome a one-game loss of Metta with 2-3 additional days of rest & preparation. |
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Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 01:39 PM PST
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| 4 or 5 games. Preferably a sweep. A rested Kobe, Pau, and Bynum playing at a high level is more important. Since we don't have home court we only need to steal one game in OKC out of the first two. We can do that without Metta. I expect Sessions, Bynum, Gasol, and Kobe to elevate their games in that series. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 01:40 PM PST
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This is a great question, Randy and I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been thinking about it for several days already.
I don't see a sweep as being very likely in this series anyway, but if it were my choice, I'd prefer that the Lakers win the series in 6 games. That will give them something more closely resembling a full roster for game 1 of the OKC series. This is even more important now that Jordan Hill's status is questionable due to the recent off court legal problems that have cropped up for him. We'll need Metta's strength and versatility against the Thunder, and I like our chances much better with both Metta and Ebanks to throw at Durant, who's a handful offensively. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 03:21 PM PST
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| 6 games. It'll give Metta time to come back immediately for the next round. Worse comes to worse, he'll be there for game 7 of the 1st round. However, I think it's best if we have him fully ready for the 2nd round. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 04:26 PM PST
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This is a great question, Randy and I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been thinking about it for several days already.
lol,
I thought that question may have occured to you, Steve. Some others too.
I agree, I don't see a sweep. And yes, I think six would be just perfect. Then we have The Big Elbow back for the full Thunder series.
It is weird to want your team not to sweep, and even weirder to know that going six games would probabably advance your chances more than a sweep!!
Funny how suspensions can suspend the way you usually would see and want things.
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6 games. It'll give Metta time to come back immediately for the next round. Worse comes to worse, he'll be there for game 7 of the 1st round. However, I think it's best if we have him fully ready for the 2nd round.
ameth,
Yep. I agree. The Thunder will be our make or break series. If we beat them, we can beat anyone. If we don't, then its on to the Big Change offseason for us. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 08:53 PM PST
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I'm pretty sure Brown is approaching it this way:
We play to win. 4 game sweep is best. If at worst we get Metta when we get Metta, but the team cannot and will not try to tank a game or two.
This is an excellent question for the fan base. Based off game 1, I say Ebanks has the chops to get stuff done. Don't forget his finish against OKC in Ron Ron's absence. I shoot for 4 games, get rested and watch OKC go 7 with Dallas. We could certainly pull a game from them in OKC with more rest.
But if we go 6 or 7 we get Ron back. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 08:54 PM PST
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| I have the scary thought of what went down against Phoenix a few years back. Up 3-1 and we still lost. Anything is possible so you end things when you can. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 09:15 PM PST
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Lakerfan8,
I agree. There is no way in hell Brown, or any coach, or any playoff team will tank games just to stretch out a series. Too much danger there.
After reading your post, I will say this: I will be rooting for a Lakers sweep, as usual. But intellectually, I think it is better if we do get this in six and The Big Elbow is there for the start of that Thunder series. But Ebanks has done well, has he not?
Im not worried about any parallel to the Lakers-Suns series. The Suns were the much better team that year. That they came back to beat us was no shock. The shock was us going up 3-1.
This time around, we are, IMO, a much better team than the Nuggets. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 09:16 PM PST
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| we gotta at least let it go to 6.. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 09:27 PM PST
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| I voted NO by accident. Get this over with and get some rest. Plus, dragging this out to manipulate possible scenarios is not the Laker way to approach this. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 10:53 PM PST
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| Sweep! This team can beat anybody! |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 11:03 PM PST
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 11:15 PM PST
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| Not gonna lie, as soon as artest was suspended for 7 games I wanted us to win the series in 6 games. We have to be at full strength to beat OKC. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 11:46 PM PST
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| Damn... everyone assuming we for sure are gonna BEAT the Nuggets. Slow down everyone. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 11:46 PM PST
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I voted NO by accident. Get this over with and get some rest. Plus, dragging this out to manipulate possible scenarios is not the Laker way to approach this.
Gonzo,
Thats ok. So we know there should be one less no vote on the poll and one more yes vote. Thanks for saying.
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Not gonna lie, as soon as artest was suspended for 7 games I wanted us to win the series in 6 games. We have to be at full strength to beat OKC.
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Fish, you shouldn't lie. That makes for no fun. I bet you weren't the only one who had that thought. Its been in my head too since The Big Elbow got suspended. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 11:50 PM PST
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| You simply play every game to win no matter what. Chances are the Lakers are not going to sweep anyway. The Nuggets will make adjustments after game #1, plus they will be much harder to beat in Denver. Tanking would be the most stupid thing they could possibly do. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: Apr 30, 2012 - 11:57 PM PST
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| The Lakers are not going to tank any games. They will play to win, sweep if possible but highly unlikely (5 or 6 games). |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: May 01, 2012 - 05:25 AM PST
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| I want to win the series in five games. That way if we lose the first two in OKC, then they are just doing what they're suppose to do, we have capable defenders in Barnes and Ebanks. No one will blck Durant's shot, so you just have to stay in front of him and contest his shot. I think Artest making his debut at home will be best, if we are down 2-0 we can just come home and handle business, use the playoff crowd and Artet's return as a much-needed advantage. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: May 01, 2012 - 06:32 AM PST
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gem, if the Lakers win in 5 games over Denver, then Artest would get to play in the 2nd game in OKC, assuming they get past Dallas.
I have a feeling that Artest's return will be a big test for him one way or the other. But I'm sure you're right that they will be seriously all over his @ss in Oklahoma City if that's where he returns. As you say, it might not be the best thing for him. I know he's a vet, but he seems to be the sensitive type too. He's not Kobe. I love it when a crowd gets on Kobe hard because it just seems to make him all that much better. There are very few players like Kobe in that area though, if any. |
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Post Subject: RE: With Metta suspension,what is best length for Denver ser
Posted: May 01, 2012 - 07:38 AM PST
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See the Lakers are going to beat the Nuggets without Ron Artest AKA Metta World Peace.So no matter what they will beat OKC with or without Metta World Peace IMO.
Devin Ebanks is very fast with his hands on defense and he has very long arms and speed to matchup with Kevin Durant.Devin Ebanks seemed to give Kevin Durant trouble last time they played.He was highly touted for his defense coming out of college from what i have read recently.He is improving leaps and bounds.
Matt Barnes is a major plus to have also.He is very good coming off the bench.He should do good in the playoffs.Matt Barnes is playing better the last few games than he has since becoming a Lakers player IMO. |
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Posted: May 01, 2012 - 07:52 AM PST
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Katie wrote:
Matt Barnes is a major plus to have also.He is very good coming off the bench.He should do good in the playoffs.Matt Barnes is playing better the last few games than he has since becoming a Lakers player IMO.
Well, actually I think Barnes isn't going to play as well as he played in the last games of the regular season because of that ankle injury. He was also playing well last year until the ankle injury he had and from then on he didn't play so good |
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Posted: May 01, 2012 - 08:28 AM PST
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LakerRRTX wrote:
gem, if the Lakers win in 5 games over Denver, then Artest would get to play in the 2nd game in OKC, assuming they get past Dallas.
I have a feeling that Artest's return will be a big test for him one way or the other. But I'm sure you're right that they will be seriously all over his @ss in Oklahoma City if that's where he returns. As you say, it might not be the best thing for him. I know he's a vet, but he seems to be the sensitive type too. He's not Kobe. I love it when a crowd gets on Kobe hard because it just seems to make him all that much better. There are very few players like Kobe in that area though, if any.
You're right, apparently I'm on that new math. He would be back in Oklahoma, truth be told he can't avoid it anyway. I kind of like that Ebanks came out playing well, I'm just baffled by his second half absence, I guess we will see how Ebanks plays tonight, Hill and Ebanks were a breath of fresh air. |
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Posted: May 01, 2012 - 09:37 AM PST
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| well i would rather get the sweep for the rest, because it looks like okc is in a dog fight with dallas and that series is probably going 6-7. and i would rather have a rested drew,kobe, pau..... those three are the most important!! |
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Posted: May 01, 2012 - 11:47 AM PST
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| I am rooting for 4 or 5 games for this series 6 would hurt that much but i think it favors us to go in 4 or 5 |
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Posted: May 01, 2012 - 04:50 PM PST
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| Honestly we don't need Metta that much. Ebanks is 6'9, hes longer and faster than Metta. I like Ebanks on Durant. Not saying I dont want Metta back but Lakers should try and sweep Denver. Like Van Gundy said W/ Metta out we're a much faster team and going up against Denver and OKC we're going to need to be faster and get back on transition D. Metta brings us our toughness and he intimidates opposing player, which would be key against teams like Dallas and San Antonio. I like seeing Ebanks get minutes, I like him starting and I liked him starting in the begining of the year but for some reason Mike Brown benched him. |
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gemfow wrote:
I kind of like that Ebanks came out playing well, I'm just baffled by his second half absence, I guess we will see how Ebanks plays tonight, Hill and Ebanks were a breath of fresh air.
I've been pretty shocked at how Hill and Ebanks have played, but especially Hill. If this guy can do the dirty work like this and seem to love it, why would so many teams let him go? Maybe it was that high 1st round pick price? Dunno.
I've wondered about the extremely limited minutes in the 2nd half for Ebanks too. I guess it's working and I would suppose it's because they want Barnes getting the lion's share of the mins. There have been some very strange lineup manipulations this year. Just when Brown gets criticized for lack of flexibility in playing some guys and making them sit out all the time, all of a sudden he's giving them monster roles when it really counts the most. Too odd, but it looks good for now. |
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