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Post Subject: Kareem: "Bynum needs to Check Ego" Post ID: 638169Posted: Apr 21, 2012 - 02:00 PM PST
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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, the NBA’s all-time leading scorer and Naismith Hall of Famer, offered some thinly-veiled criticism for Andrew Bynum during a a televised interview on Friday.

Speaking on SportsCenter, Abdul-Jabbar said that Bynum needs to check his “ego” and suggested that his career year has led to his acting out and misbehaving.

“Andrew is doing very well on the court,” Jabbar said. “He just needs to try to calm down his ego a little bit.”

Bynum, 24, is averaging a career-high 19.2 points and 12.3 rebounds per game this season. Along the way, he’s beefed with Lakers coach Mike Brown, hoisted an ill-advised 3-pointer, said that he doesn’t participate in team huddles, and received a fine for his behavior.

“It’s starting to get to him how successful he’s become, maybe,” Abdul-Jabbar suggested. “I don’t know, I haven’t talked to him so I don’t know. This is just my observations from afar because I’m no longer coaching with the Lakers. He’s doing very well and it seems to have gotten to his head a little bit.”

via Ben Golliver of CBS Sports

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Post Subject: RE: Kareem: "Bynum needs to Check Ego" Post ID: 638186Posted: Apr 21, 2012 - 03:13 PM PST
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wow. called out by the mentor. not a good sign unless Jabar is still just pissed at the trophy thing with the lakers. Hopefully Bynum levels out emotionally and uses his strengths to help us even more
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wow. called out by the mentor. not a good sign unless Jabar is still just pissed at the trophy thing with the lakers. Hopefully Bynum levels out emotionally and uses his strengths to help us even more


Eh,

Don't put much stock in this. Kareem is not involved anymore. I remember when Drew was accused of not caring, being unemotional. Now he is out of control, lol. He can't win for nothing.

Maybe Kareem is right, maybe not, but from what I have seen, I don't really see Drew as some out of control nut case. He has had some moments, but many young, really good players have over the years. Not like Drew is causing locker room problems, chasing coaches off or getting arrested. Sometimes things can get blown all out of proportion to what they really are.

So far, he strikes me as a typical, 24 year old rich athlete. Nothing more, nothing less.

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SPQR: am I the only one who was happy to see Drew fired up after that first quarter? He hit the bench and was pissed off it looked like. Personally I think it had something to do with the defense or lack there of since San Antonio scored easily before Bynum banked in the easy jumpshot. The lakers defense was terrible throughout.

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SPQR: am I the only one who was happy to see Drew fired up after that first quarter? He hit the bench and was pissed off it looked like. Personally I think it had something to do with the defense or lack there of since San Antonio scored easily before Bynum banked in the easy jumpshot. The lakers defense was terrible throughout.


he showed that he cares for it. i like it.

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He is fiery and competitive...he just need to learn how to harness that and keep himself out of trouble. He lets emotions get the better of him at times...he will learn as he gets older and use it as motivation for better play instead of silly fouls and pouting.

The best thing is he has Kobe to learn from...get a pissed off T here and there...but dont get tossed and dont flagrant foul people and get yourself tossed or suspended...
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I have a lot of respect for Kareem, and those that try to put him down because of a bronze statue comment is uncalled for. Kareem is only trying to help Bynum to act like a person that shows his skills on the court, not knocking chairs over or screaming. That to me is childish. Get out there and score thirty points and get twenty rebounds, block some shots and the game will take care of itself.
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SPQR: am I the only one who was happy to see Drew fired up after that first quarter? He hit the bench and was pissed off it looked like. Personally I think it had something to do with the defense or lack there of since San Antonio scored easily before Bynum banked in the easy jumpshot. The lakers defense was terrible throughout.
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he showed that he cares for it. i like it.


Gem, Ralppcobarde:

Yes, I had no problems with Drew showing emotion. Magic Johnson always wore his emotion on his sleeve. Drew was pissed and was making a point.

On the other hand, back when Drew looked as unemotional as a japanese noah mask, I didn't have problems with that either. I thought the charges back then that he didn't care, as ludicrous and silly as the other charges against him. Two of the greatest players in NFL and NBA history, regardless of position, Jack Ham and Abdul Jabbar were so stoic you wouldn't know if their teams were down by 30, up by 30 or in a tied game with ten seconds left. And those two guys cared as much as any players ever cared.

Emotion expressed on the playing field, does not indicate any degree of caring or concern. It just means that player exhibits emtions openly.

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Axle, I hope your comment was not to me. I never slighted Kareem and have the utmost respect for him. He is a class act. He did feel slighted by the trophy order. the Logo before the leading scorer of all time? maybe he had a point, but I'm not condemning him whatsoever.

As far as Bynum goes, tonight was another step backwards possibly. Jordan Hill was a better match up and showed some serious hustle tonight and Bynum looked disengaged once he went to the bench. I want to see that dude sit closest to the coach when that happens and cheer his guys on in a double overtime win. Get noticed. show your passion. prove your worth. Bynum's future grows brighter by the month, but tonight was frustrating to watch. His postgame words were kind too, but they lacked anything that shows how much he cares.
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Bynum needs to show he knows how to run. Brown hauled his butt out because he's trotting up and down against a fast breaking team. Hill ran. Hill got there on time to be a force on the boards on both sides. Drew just trots and watches them run past. He just waves as they go by.
He's weak against the Thunder and Spurs because they know how to take him out of the game, run. Run and you'll get there, and get it done, before he can impose himself.
I agree with Kareem, Bynum thinks he's too cool now, and the game can just wait for him to eventually get there. If his head was right he'd say, hey, I'd better get it in another gear because they have. Right now he's great against half court offenses, like the Lakers often are because they've got trotters.
But I say put Hill in in place of Bynum, just like today, against fast break teams. Because a Hill who is there to do what he can is better than a plodding Bynum who's not there, and therefore does nothing.
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Axle wrote:
I have a lot of respect for Kareem, and those that try to put him down because of a bronze statue comment is uncalled for. Kareem is only trying to help Bynum to act like a person that shows his skills on the court, not knocking chairs over or screaming. That to me is childish. Get out there and score thirty points and get twenty rebounds, block some shots and the game will take care of itself.


well put...

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Lakerfan8 and Showtyme: I think you buys have to realize all players aren't buit to run like Gazelles. I can tell whe n Bynm is running hard or trotting back, which doesn't mean you guys don't. I'm glad Hill had the opportunity to get out there, but the dude is like 240 compared to Bynum's 275-280.

For the record I'm glad Hill did well, but Mike didn't just yank Bynum out for lack of effect because five blocks don't happen because of lack of effort. Mike stayed with the team that brought them back. Sessions was on the bench as well, barnes didn't get back in the game either. Brown stayed with the hot hand that was out there.

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It's funny that after 1 good game, suddenly Jordan Hill is better than Bynum in the eyes of certain short-sighted fans. LOL. Yeah, let's see how good we are with Hill playing 35 minutes a game at starting center. Let's see how many championships we win. LOL

Honestly, some people hate on Bynum excessively on these forums. The guy just put up a season where he averaged over 18 points, 11 rebounds, and 2 blocks per game. Let's see Jordan Hill do that sh*t. LOL. Not gonna happen.
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anymore. I remember when Drew was accused of not caring, being unemotional. Now he is out of control, lol. He can't win for nothing.

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if you think his behavior is normal, then we are in trouble, dude needs to grow up and fast, He didn't play the 4th and 2 OT's last night because of his lackzdasical attitude.
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Well, if we're gonna have to rely on Jordan Hill, Steve Blake, and Devin Ebanks to help carry the team to narrow victories over the OKC Thunder, then we might as well expect the Lakers to make an early exit from the playoffs.
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Bynum needs to show he knows how to run. Brown hauled his butt out because he's trotting up and down against a fast breaking team. Hill ran. Hill got there on time to be a force on the boards on both sides. Drew just trots and watches them run past. He just waves as they go by.
He's weak against the Thunder and Spurs because they know how to take him out of the game, run. Run and you'll get there, and get it done, before he can impose himself.
I agree with Kareem, Bynum thinks he's too cool now, and the game can just wait for him to eventually get there. If his head was right he'd say, hey, I'd better get it in another gear because they have. Right now he's great against half court offenses, like the Lakers often are because they've got trotters.
But I say put Hill in in place of Bynum, just like today, against fast break teams. Because a Hill who is there to do what he can is better than a plodding Bynum who's not there, and therefore does nothing.


I've been noticing the lacksidazical running lately as well,. was bad yesterday and you can't do that agains OKC... Not likeing that.


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Love the game v OKC! Bynum will be fine. I think a moody All-Star Big Man with a point to prove is never a bad thing going into the playoffs. Lakers need Hill, Ebanks, Blake and the bench to be jacked up for the playoff push ...much more important than playing Bynum another 10-15 minutes in a reg season contest...love the coaching move with Hill and Blake!

Although, World Peace may be out . Kobe just happened to miss enough late reg season minutes equal to a seven game series. Pau is playing like Pau. Sessions is gaining experience with his new team. Coach Brown is getting Def in the vocabulary of the players. Champioship bound, baby! Go Lakers!
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We still need Bynum and anyone who thinks we dont are fooling themselves. He needed to sit yesterday not because he's not good,but because it was situation basketball. He wasn't being effective down low and when he's not teams run us out of the gym. Mike Brown finally did some adjusting by countering with a smaller more athletic team and it worked. Bynum will still be Bynum,but its good to know we can change our style of play if need be.

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It's sad to see Bynum devolving into a cry baby on and off the court. He had everything going for him this year: health, more touches, Kobe's trust, and an all-star nod. Instead of building on his on-court successes, he shows his unwillingness to improve his deficiencies much less recognize them. Addressing his being benched during last night's game, he said that his benching was warranted and that he could have played better OFFENSIVELY. The problem wasn't his offense! He has been horrible defensively has done nothing to address it. I love Bynum's game, but he's gotta work on his character if he wants to be a franchise player.
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