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Post Subject: Sam Amico: Mitch trying to make something happen according t Post ID: 594811Posted: Feb 24, 2012 - 06:51 PM PST
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It seems Mitch is considering running all kinds of Carolina blue up the flag pole.

I guess there's also noise again about Raymond Felton.

Who knows? But there's word of using the trade exception for Felton. Who knows?

Those Felton marbles are rolling around in Jimbo land.

The fact that Felton has fallen in favor in Portland seems to be the straw stirring this thing.

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Post Subject: RE: Lazenby Speculation: Raymond Felton for the Trade Except Post ID: 594815Posted: Feb 24, 2012 - 06:57 PM PST
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This would be my ideal trade for the Lakers! Felton isn't a top tier poing guard and would fit in nicely with this Laker team. He can shoot the basketball and he's also a fast player, so he'd be able to keep up with other point guards in the league.

Do It Mitch! LOL

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Post Subject: RE: Lazenby Speculation: Raymond Felton for the Trade Except Post ID: 594822Posted: Feb 24, 2012 - 07:01 PM PST
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raymond is cool n lakers said to be interested in him when he worked out for them prior to coming into the league i recall., they marveled at his speed..but what about beasley???? we were to use the exemption on him ??? me soooo confused but even more anxious
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Post Subject: RE: Lazenby Speculation: Raymond Felton for the Trade Except Post ID: 594825Posted: Feb 24, 2012 - 07:08 PM PST
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felton is still just 27 on year older than kyle lowry. the only thing that makes me nervous about felton is that he doesnt take care of his body. which is why hes had a bad season. and also his game is best suited for a fast paced offense and we dont have the athletic pieces to make that happen. i just hope we do something more than just sign Sheed
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Wow, Raymond Felton is having a terrible year. WTF...

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Wow, Raymond Felton is having a terrible year. WTF...


Maybe because he doesnt wanna play in Portland?
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lakers_fan_1995 wrote:
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Wow, Raymond Felton is having a terrible year. WTF...


Maybe because he doesnt wanna play in Portland?


I dunno. He's shooting the ball like Fisher though. LOL

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Noooo. Use TPE for Bease, then use ur pick and cash for Sess. Felton is fat, lol
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That........would be awesome, but I just don't see it.

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lakeshowsd wrote:
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Wow, Raymond Felton is having a terrible year. WTF...


Maybe because he doesnt wanna play in Portland?


I dunno. He's shooting the ball like Fisher though. LOL
I think he fell off favor cuz he aint consistent and not producing enough for wins. Looks like Felton is like our Mcbob, a good talent but not bein used by coaches cuz other players r producing more. I mean Fel has to compete for time againt crawford n Wesley
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When felton was with Denver he killed us! But then again every pg kills us
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I hear they want both Felton and Beasley. That's their goal. But talk is cheap right now. The source is good tho.


https://twitter.com/#!/lazenby/status/1 ... 2906925057
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LakerDymes wrote:
felton is still just 27 on year older than kyle lowry. the only thing that makes me nervous about felton is that he doesnt take care of his body. which is why hes had a bad season. and also his game is best suited for a fast paced offense and we dont have the athletic pieces to make that happen. i just hope we do something more than just sign Sheed


He provides speed, which is something this team sorely lacks. Lakers would actually have someone to run a fastbreak.
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Felton is a sneaky fat.... Quick and fast but has a belly...lol


Has more range then sessions but sessions is athletic


We need someone who can defend the point vs cp3 and Westbrook


I say get sessions(cheaper)... And get Beasley
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Felton is a sneaky fat.... Quick and fast but has a belly...lol


Has more range then sessions but sessions is athletic


We need someone who can defend the point vs cp3 and Westbrook


I say get sessions(cheaper)... And get Beasley



i think id rather do that too. if we were to get felton we couldnt get beasley anymore. i think id rather have sessions who isnt as good a shooter or passer but attacks the basket better. and get michael beasley who is instant offense and can create mismatches at both forward spots. id rather upgrade 2 spots than 1
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IhatetheCeltics wrote:
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felton is still just 27 on year older than kyle lowry. the only thing that makes me nervous about felton is that he doesnt take care of his body. which is why hes had a bad season. and also his game is best suited for a fast paced offense and we dont have the athletic pieces to make that happen. i just hope we do something more than just sign Sheed


He provides speed, which is something this team sorely lacks. Lakers would actually have someone to run a fastbreak.


^^but who's running with Raymond???
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I would be fine either way to be honest with you. Sessions has quietly been one of the most underrated pg's in the NBA the past 4 years. Felton recently jumped into the scene and got more of the hype because of his ties to NY, but if Sessions left Cleveland he would be getting massive coverage. I think the part media plays in portraying players is similar to how Bynum is portrayed and how Shannon Brown got portrayed because of their ties to the Lakers.

So I still would prefer Sessions but I could be happy with either one.

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Felton is a better defender and shooter and Sessions is a better penetrator and passer. I personally prefer Felton because we need a good defender at the point and he is that. BTW, I think we can get both Felton and Beasley. The Timberwolves never claimed they wanted the tpe, what they do want is a pick. So maybe McBob and Barnes and a pick for Beasley, or something similar, can work. If we get both we're championship material for sure
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felton is only good at fastbreak.. + his fat.. imagine if his in LA he will just get fatter LOL
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AyeDGAF wrote:
felton is only good at fastbreak.. + his fat.. imagine if his in LA he will just get fatter LOL


thats why i would only get him if all he would cost is the tpe. he is only effective on a running team and we just dont have the athleticism to make that happen. other than his shooting hes an average passer and a poor defender as well. the perfect fit in my opinion is jose calderon but hes not available anymore according to reports
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LakerDymes wrote:
AyeDGAF wrote:
felton is only good at fastbreak.. + his fat.. imagine if his in LA he will just get fatter LOL


thats why i would only get him if all he would cost is the tpe. he is only effective on a running team and we just dont have the athleticism to make that happen. other than his shooting hes an average passer and a poor defender as well. the perfect fit in my opinion is jose calderon but hes not available anymore according to reports


Felton isn't a bad defender. He's a pretty good defender and would be even better with Mike Brown
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mhf94 wrote:
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felton is only good at fastbreak.. + his fat.. imagine if his in LA he will just get fatter LOL


thats why i would only get him if all he would cost is the tpe. he is only effective on a running team and we just dont have the athleticism to make that happen. other than his shooting hes an average passer and a poor defender as well. the perfect fit in my opinion is jose calderon but hes not available anymore according to reports


Felton isn't a bad defender. He's a pretty good defender and would be even better with Mike Brown


opposing pgs average a PER of 15.9 against felton just to put it in perspective they average 15.2 against steve blake and a 14.0 PER against fisher. so yeah he is pretty bad

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He'll be an upgrade to our already crappy PG position.

He's the NBA's best fattest player. And he's fast for his size.
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^^^lol. Sometimes I wonder if we are basketball's version of the Bad News Bears.

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Lakerdymes, does PER account for guarding the pick and roll in a pick and roll league? How often do you actually see a pg go one on one? How about that lovely PER stat when a pg pushes the ball and gets an easy layup from a fast break? Those stats don't mean crap.

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felton would be a very good addition, but we need to see what portland will be willing to accept for him. And im sure the lakers wouldnt be the only team after him so we just have to wait and see.
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Die-Hard-Laker-Dude wrote:
felton would be a very good addition, but we need to see what portland will be willing to accept for him. And im sure the lakers wouldnt be the only team after him so we just have to wait and see.


Exactly, if it's easy to get him, I'm sure we won't be the only ones after him. Although there aren't many teams in need of a pg like him. Actually now that I think about it, there is none. No team is in need of a point guard right now. We're the only team in need of one. I guess that's good for us?
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gemfow wrote:
Lakerdymes, does PER account for guarding the pick and roll in a pick and roll league? How often do you actually see a pg go one on one? How about that lovely PER stat when a pg pushes the ball and gets an easy layup from a fast break? Those stats don't mean crap.


hey man take it easy, i was just sharing some info which i found interesting. theres no way to completely measure a player accurately and there never will be but that doesnt mean we shouldnt try. what I are posted are facts that all nba teams use so if you got something better than the "eye test" let us all know.



this is john hollinger on PER

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/s ... id=2850240
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i'd rather have sessions
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I actually like felton more than sessions; felton's fast, big, has solid shooting ability and passer, and has D. he'll fit mike browns system very well..
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Die-Hard-Laker-Dude wrote:
felton would be a very good addition, but we need to see what portland will be willing to accept for him. And im sure the lakers wouldnt be the only team after him so we just have to wait and see.



what about blake. he did well in their system. it does seem like a stretch that portland would trade with us though
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I am not sure what the Lakers would trade to get Raymond Felton maybe the TPE and a draft pick IDK.If the Lakers get Felton things will be looking good at point guard.He has had a so so season so far.
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The trade of Steve Blake for Felton went down in my dream. Some Mitch Kupchak inception $hit if it actually happens now.
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gemfow wrote:
Lakerdymes, does PER account for guarding the pick and roll in a pick and roll league? How often do you actually see a pg go one on one? How about that lovely PER stat when a pg pushes the ball and gets an easy layup from a fast break? Those stats don't mean crap.


Wow, have anger issues much?
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GhostNugget wrote:
The trade of Steve Blake for Felton went down in my dream. Some Mitch Kupchak inception $hit if it actually happens now.


mitch was talking to you in your sleep to inform all of us laker fans Very Happy
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The trade of Steve Blake for Felton went down in my dream. Some Mitch Kupchak inception $hit if it actually happens now.


It's a sign.
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SourceCode wrote:
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The trade of Steve Blake for Felton went down in my dream. Some Mitch Kupchak inception $hit if it actually happens now.


mitch was talking to you in your sleep to inform all of us laker fans Very Happy


I can dig it.... cool2
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Def-one-24-2 wrote:
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The trade of Steve Blake for Felton went down in my dream. Some Mitch Kupchak inception $hit if it actually happens now.


It's a sign.


>Smile

Cant wait. Smile
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Yes Raymon for free is way better than Lowry for Pau!!! Both average pg but we dont lose a 7footer now...

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While I disagree with jsales (as usual) when it comes to Felton being better than Lowry, I would also prefer to acquire a point guard of Felton's abilities without giving up Pau Gasol.

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I want beasley in and artest out. That would solve all greatest offensive woes and only make us a bit weaker. Our towers are our defense. furthermore, we need a fast pg. Sessions is the most realistic, but I'll take Calderon any day if it was on the table.
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I like it. Just hope we get somebody for the SF position. Didnt minnesota want the tpe for beas?
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lakerfan8 wrote:
I want beasley in and artest out. That would solve all greatest offensive woes and only make us a bit weaker. Our towers are our defense. furthermore, we need a fast pg. Sessions is the most realistic, but I'll take Calderon any day if it was on the table.


We would be surprised how good Sessions can be. I describe him as a traditional, cutting pg who likes to dunk in transition. Since he's a guy with a chip on his shoulder he would be a great starter for the Lakers. He's in a contract year with an option-where else would you jumpstart your career than with the Lakers as a starting pg to showcase your skills.

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lakers are done...people in l.a land are wasting their money to see that product hit the floor...jimbo is not going to spend money to win..the lakers are done
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silentevolution wrote:
lakers are done...people in l.a land are wasting their money to see that product hit the floor...jimbo is not going to spend money to win..the lakers are done


Unless I miss my bet, you are 110% right.

It is sad to go from the best owner in the NBA to one of the worst, from a Hall Of Fame coach to a Hall of Shame coach, from a guy who deserves a statue to one who plays like one..

We have gone from the White House to the Out Houst, from Filet Mignon to Hamburger Helper, from Blackened Fish to a Black Eye.
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congocash wrote:
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I want beasley in and artest out. That would solve all greatest offensive woes and only make us a bit weaker. Our towers are our defense. furthermore, we need a fast pg. Sessions is the most realistic, but I'll take Calderon any day if it was on the table.


We would be surprised how good Sessions can be. I describe him as a traditional, cutting pg who likes to dunk in transition. Since he's a guy with a chip on his shoulder he would be a great starter for the Lakers. He's in a contract year with an option-where else would you jumpstart your career than with the Lakers as a starting pg to showcase your skills.


That assumes Jim The Cheap wants to spend money . So far, he has dumped Sssha's salary and not used the trade exception, dumped LO and so far has not used the exception and it looks like he wants to get rid of Pau's salary.

We now appear to have Donald Sterling. Can advertising the opposing stars be far behind?
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BaadMaster wrote:
silentevolution wrote:
lakers are done...people in l.a land are wasting their money to see that product hit the floor...jimbo is not going to spend money to win..the lakers are done


Unless I miss my bet, you are 110% right.

It is sad to go from the best owner in the NBA to one of the worst, from a Hall Of Fame coach to a Hall of Shame coach, from a guy who deserves a statue to one who plays like one..

We have gone from the White House to the Out Houst, from Filet Mignon to Hamburger Helper, from Blackened Fish to a Black Eye.


And yet we're basically in contending for the 3rd seed in the deep deep western conference, with a former coach of the year coaching, an nba owner that still hasn't proved he's good but neither has he proved he's one of the worst, and have a guy who plays like a statue?? who bynum?? sure he's just the 2nd best center in the league and the biggest part of our defense but yeah you're right..

What are the reasons that make you say such idiotic things? the team had to learn a completely different system. most of the players had been playin with the triangle for years, we're still contending for one of the top seeds and have a chance to make a good playoff run, because in the playoffs the game starts turning in our favour being a much slower game, where size and experience matters, so despite not being a top tittle contender and still have a chance for a deep playoff run and have a good team, not a lottery team like you seem to put it.
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First of all, you state "What are the reasons that make you say such idiotic things?." These are MY OPINIONS. They are OPINIONS. Sports is about OPINIONS, not facts. Two weeks ago, many people's OPINIONS (get it?) were that Jeremy Lin was the next MJ. So, there....

My OPINION (Duh!) is that the Lakers are headd for a slow yet consistent decline. Kobe will always bring us some human highlight reels, and win some games we should have lost. But we are not a Championship team for the next number of years.

And that is my OPINION. Period.
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BaadMaster wrote:
First of all, you state "What are the reasons that make you say such idiotic things?." These are MY OPINIONS. They are OPINIONS. Sports is about OPINIONS, not facts. Two weeks ago, many people's OPINIONS (get it?) were that Jeremy Lin was the next MJ. So, there....

My OPINION (Duh!) is that the Lakers are headd for a slow yet consistent decline. Kobe will always bring us some human highlight reels, and win some games we should have lost. But we are not a Championship team for the next number of years.

And that is my OPINION. Period.


Oh ok.. Great example with lin btw. it's totally understandable that people thought lin was going to be the next mj. I think walton is going to score 30 points next game and then he'll start to get a lot of playing time and will average 30 pts for the rest of the season and will be the finals mvp. it's my opinion ok? respect it. it's not idiotic at all because it's my opinion and sports is about opinions.
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I think we have to remember that any point guard we get has to differ the ball to Kobe which takes away from what we need an elite pg like deron Williams, Chris Paul ,Steve Nash, russell Westbrook , or even rondo are guys that Kobe would welcome to handle the offense , plus other than Nash those guys can pay some d, if we're gonna get a sessions or a Lowry to just bring the ball up the court and accasionally take wide open shot we might as well keep what we have , having Kobe and the kind of games that he's had in his career has spoiled us but just think how dangerous we would be having a true star pg just look at okc or even the clippers for that matter without cp3 they wouldn't be where they're at
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