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Post Subject: Marc Stein: Nets would reject Pau-for-Deron trade
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Deron Williams' first choice is to stay with the Nets and to build something special in Brooklyn, but if it doesn't work out with his current team, his short list of desirable destinations includes the Mavericks, the Knicks and the Lakers, according to sources close to the situation.
While the league's post-lockout trade buzz has been centered on Chris Paul and Dwight Howard, little attention has been paid to Williams, who like Howard can opt out of his contract and become a free agent after this season.
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Post Subject: RE: D. Williams Has Short List, Includes Lakers
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 01:53 PM PST
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| COme on Mitch make this happen. |
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Post Subject: RE: D. Williams Has Short List, Includes Lakers
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 01:55 PM PST
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| Wow, now that changes things dramatically. D-Will just became an option, folks! I'm excited. It's going to be a very interesting summer.... |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 01:56 PM PST
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| Makes you forget about the little elf Rondo real fast, huh, you people that were all about to welcome that little **** Rondo to our team. Haha. |
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Post Subject: RE: D. Williams Has Short List, Includes Lakers
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 01:57 PM PST
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| Now the question is, would the Nets be willing enough to take our old folks.... |
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Post Subject: RE: D. Williams Has Short List, Includes Lakers
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 01:59 PM PST
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| Dude...look at their roster. I think they'll be willing to take some lukewarm burritos and a few buttons. |
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Post Subject: RE: D. Williams Has Short List, Includes Lakers
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 02:01 PM PST
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| i think pau gasol for williams is about as good as it get for them if they cant land d12 before the deadline. think about it they have to stay competitive since theyr moving to brooklyn and a gasol/lopez front court is very good at least scoring wise. |
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Post Subject: RE: D. Williams Has Short List, Includes Lakers
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Now the question is, would the Nets be willing enough to take our old folks....
Nets would have no choice. The lakers have the best deal if its between those 3 teams(La, Mavs, NY). Ive been saying these since i herd Deron wasnt happy in New Jersey. I really hope this trade can go down. The lakers cant let Deron walk this summer. IF he walks as a free agent then Dallas would be the team to get him. |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 02:04 PM PST
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| landing dwill is hte only way the lakers can **** on stern vetoing the cp3 deal since he always owns paul head to head. make it happen mitch!!! |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 02:07 PM PST
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Now the question is, would the Nets be willing enough to take our old folks....
Nets would have no choice. The lakers have the best deal if its between those 3 teams(La, Mavs, NY). Ive been saying these since i herd Deron wasnt happy in New Jersey. I really hope this trade can go down. The lakers cant let Deron walk this summer. IF he walks as a free agent then Dallas would be the team to get him.
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| Best deal IMO talent-wise NY has the best asset in Carmelo. The Nets did attempted to get him. They might be hesitant to go for Pau or Amare due to Pau's age and Amare's knee history IMO. We all know Dallas has nothing to offer in trade value / assets however, free agency different story. |
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| Yeah, getting D-Will should be the Lakers' top priority at this point. With CP3 on the Clippers, the Lakers aren't even the best team in L.A. anymore. We need D-Will BADLY!!! |
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| would the knicks really trade melo after everything they just gave up to get him. doubtful |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 02:18 PM PST
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LakerMan7 wrote:
movalnum1lakerfan wrote:
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Now the question is, would the Nets be willing enough to take our old folks....
Nets would have no choice. The lakers have the best deal if its between those 3 teams(La, Mavs, NY). Ive been saying these since i herd Deron wasnt happy in New Jersey. I really hope this trade can go down. The lakers cant let Deron walk this summer. IF he walks as a free agent then Dallas would be the team to get him.
Not if the Knicks offered Melo or Amare
Maybe Melo, but not Amare. No one would want Amare. He is a one dimensional offensive player, plays no D, gets no rebounds, and basically knows very little about the game of basketball. And he is signed to a max contract of 20 mil a year. The knicks had to overpay to even get him. No other team would have given him the max. |
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| The Lakers have a good chance to get DWill, IF the Lakers can find a third or fourth team. In my opinion, Gasol is not enough for the Nets to acquire DWill. The one team that might be willing to acquire Gasol is the Rockets. Rockets don't have a front line so they might want Gasol for that. Also, they have young talent (excluding Lowry) plus picks to give to the Nets. But, we will see how it goes... |
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| Too bad we traded Lamar for NOTHING! That seriously reduced our options for getting D-Will via trade. Idiot and potentially costly move by Mitch and Buss. |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 02:34 PM PST
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 02:36 PM PST
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| Like I said, Deron is a necessity and Dwight is a luxary.. Do work Mitch, if we obtain Deron.. it will increase our chances of Dwight comin =). Second coming of LA baby, Kobe, Dwight, Deron tandem |
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lakers1224 wrote:
The Lakers have a good chance to get DWill, IF the Lakers can find a third or fourth team. In my opinion, Gasol is not enough for the Nets to acquire DWill. The one team that might be willing to acquire Gasol is the Rockets. Rockets don't have a front line so they might want Gasol for that. Also, they have young talent (excluding Lowry) plus picks to give to the Nets. But, we will see how it goes...
I've already said before that the Rockets are not as interested in the trade as they were in the beginning of the season because of the attractive free agent Centers being resigned. Plus, Dalembert is beasting right now, so getting Gasol is not as much of a concern to them.
"Too bad we traded Lamar for NOTHING! That seriously reduced our options for getting D-Will via trade. Idiot and potentially costly move by Mitch and Buss."
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 02:42 PM PST
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thatguyoverthere wrote:
lakers1224 wrote:
The Lakers have a good chance to get DWill, IF the Lakers can find a third or fourth team. In my opinion, Gasol is not enough for the Nets to acquire DWill. The one team that might be willing to acquire Gasol is the Rockets. Rockets don't have a front line so they might want Gasol for that. Also, they have young talent (excluding Lowry) plus picks to give to the Nets. But, we will see how it goes...
I've already said before that the Rockets are not as interested in the trade as they were in the beginning of the season because of the attractive free agent Centers being resigned. Plus, Dalembert is beasting right now, so getting Gasol is not as much of a concern to them.
"Too bad we traded Lamar for NOTHING! That seriously reduced our options for getting D-Will via trade. Idiot and potentially costly move by Mitch and Buss."
Maybe we get Farmar back with the exception?
well with dalembert beasting as there center wouldn't that make it more attractive for them to pair gasol with him??? i disagree that houston is not interested in pau anymore. they want a low post scoring threat whom you can run an offense through. gasol is that kind of guy. i do agree about the odom thing. just stupid. |
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Maybe we get Farmar back with the exception?
LOL, wouldn't that be grand? So we would have effectively traded the 6th Man of the Year, Lamar Odom for Jordan Farmar. |
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According to the article, the Nets would have to lose out on D12 first before they think about trading Williams.
So the way I see it, we would have to first trade Bynum + fillers for D12 and then talk with Houston again and get a 3 way going that sends Pau to Houston and all those young talents that NO wanted over to NJ. Long shot as always... |
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lakernet79 wrote:
According to the article, the Nets would have to lose out on D12 first before they think about trading Williams.
So the way I see it, we would have to first trade Bynum + fillers for D12 and then talk with Houston again and get a 3 way going that sends Pau to Houston and all those young talents that NO wanted over to NJ. Long shot as always...
Howard could still go to Dallas and then the Lakers could pursue Williams next summer. |
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I really doubt we can get d-williams we got nothing to offer  they don't want Paul gasol ok poole they want another PG, or the the other new york team can offer freaking amari or Carmelo that's what I at least heard most likely amarie will be out, he's better then gasol and younger, unless lakers get a third team this will not happen, mavs have a better shot at him then we do, I see a veto coming again |
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| There is NO way we get Williams without getting Dwight first. And if Dwight gets traded, it will be after the all-star break. That gives the Lakers FO about two weeks to pull off two blockbuster trades, and that just doesn't happen in the middle of a season. The only thing that holds back the Lakers from being Dwight's first choice is our lack of a quality point guard. I personally think D-Will is the best all around point guard in the league, but to much has to go right in order to get him to LA. Devin Harris is a much more realistic choice and the better choice because we probably wont have to give up pau for him, would solve our point guard problem, and would also have no problem falling in line behind kobe. Then we become a much more attractive team in the eyes of Dwight. I love D-Will, but if we let him become the guy we want most, both him and Dwight will end up in Dallas. |
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| this is how i see it. we just need to land one player either howard or williams and the other will come. the second one will be easier since the destination is set for the second one since one is going to be in LA already. i say we go after D will first since i think we can get him faster and we need him more than howard. If we can get howard next for bynum and some one else then we have it made. we need to get dwill first because we wouldnt have to wait till after the allstar break to get him. |
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jc89 wrote:
well with dalembert beasting as there center wouldn't that make it more attractive for them to pair gasol with him??? i disagree that houston is not interested in pau anymore. they want a low post scoring threat whom you can run an offense through. gasol is that kind of guy. i do agree about the odom thing. just stupid.
Of course everyone's interested in Pau Gasol, but people aren't that stupid to gut their team when they know they don't have a hole at the position they thought was weak and needed improvement. Dalembert came in as an 8 PPG/8 RPG Center, which is why Gasol was way more attractive at the beginning of the season. Dalembert has gotten double-digit rebounds and points in 4 of the last 5 games, which makes him more attractive as a keeper at the Center position. Luis Scola is one of the Rocket's leading scorers, so they don't absolutely need Pau at the Power Forward position either. Use some logic. |
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Haterade wrote:
Yeah, getting D-Will should be the Lakers' top priority at this point. With CP3 on the Clippers, the Lakers aren't even the best team in L.A. anymore. We need D-Will BADLY!!!
The one thing I see in Williams choices are that he wants to play with a big man. That would bode well for Bynum who is seeming to be the forgotten man again for some reason. |
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jrmix006 wrote:
this is how i see it. we just need to land one player either howard or williams and the other will come. the second one will be easier since the destination is set for the second one since one is going to be in LA already. i say we go after D will first since i think we can get him faster and we need him more than howard. If we can get howard next for bynum and some one else then we have it made. we need to get dwill first because we wouldnt have to wait till after the allstar break to get him.
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| nets will only trade dwill if they are 100% sure dhoward is not getting traded to nets |
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BayLaker32 wrote:
There is NO way we get Williams without getting Dwight first. And if Dwight gets traded, it will be after the all-star break. That gives the Lakers FO about two weeks to pull off two blockbuster trades, and that just doesn't happen in the middle of a season. The only thing that holds back the Lakers from being Dwight's first choice is our lack of a quality point guard. I personally think D-Will is the best all around point guard in the league, but to much has to go right in order to get him to LA. Devin Harris is a much more realistic choice and the better choice because we probably wont have to give up pau for him, would solve our point guard problem, and would also have no problem falling in line behind kobe. Then we become a much more attractive team in the eyes of Dwight. I love D-Will, but if we let him become the guy we want most, both him and Dwight will end up in Dallas.
I'm all for Devin Harris, but no way the Lakers would give Pau for him. Harris' value shot down real low where the Jazz are desperate to get rid of him. The trade would be TPE for him. I think it matches perfectly. |
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gemfow wrote:
Haterade wrote:
Yeah, getting D-Will should be the Lakers' top priority at this point. With CP3 on the Clippers, the Lakers aren't even the best team in L.A. anymore. We need D-Will BADLY!!!
The one thing I see in Williams choices are that he wants to play with a big man. That would bode well for Bynum who is seeming to be the forgotten man again for some reason.
Gem,
He has not been forgotten. He has only neen forgotten by these one and two star gnats flitting from post to post thoughtlessly. I do not feel that even a Bynum swap for Howard would benefit us that much. What we need right now is a quality PG and have needed one for years. |
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jc89 wrote:
well with dalembert beasting as there center wouldn't that make it more attractive for them to pair gasol with him??? i disagree that houston is not interested in pau anymore. they want a low post scoring threat whom you can run an offense through. gasol is that kind of guy. i do agree about the odom thing. just stupid.
Of course everyone's interested in Pau Gasol, but people aren't that stupid to gut their team when they know they don't have a hole at the position they thought was weak and needed improvement. Dalembert came in as an 8 PPG/8 RPG Center, which is why Gasol was way more attractive at the beginning of the season. Dalembert has gotten double-digit rebounds and points in 4 of the last 5 games, which makes him more attractive as a keeper at the Center position. Luis Scola is one of the Rocket's leading scorers, so they don't absolutely need Pau at the Power Forward position either. Use some logic.
.... the rockets wanted to pair gasol with nene or marc. both of whom are double-double guys (just like what dalembert has been avg. lately). sooo if anything, it would make gasol more attractive to them with the way dalem has been playing. scola is the same player he was last year. he's not a player you run offense through. his avg. are actually a little bit lower than last year. i think they would be willing to look at a deal for pau still, that's all i'm saying. |
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Well after today, Knowing that Deron is not happy with the nets i hope Dwight is rethinking going to New Jersey. |
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gemfow wrote:
The one thing I see in Williams choices are that he wants to play with a big man. That would bode well for Bynum who is seeming to be the forgotten man again for some reason.
If that's the case, D-Will is a smart man. Ever since Jordan retired, teams that have won championships almost always featured high caliber scoring bigs on the front line.
First it was Duncan and Robinson who won it in 99.
Then Shaq led the charge in 2000-2002. Then the Spurs won it again behind Duncan's dominance in 2003.
The Pistons snuck in 1 title in 2004 without a good or great scoring big on their front line. They had Sheed Wallace but he was already declining by then.
Then it was Duncan again winning it in 2005, followed by an older version of Shaq still being a 20 and 10 beast for a title in 2006. 2007 saw Tim Duncan's final moments of greatness in the Finals as the Spurs won their franchise's 4th title.
2008 was KG's moment to shine and add a title to his hall of fame career. Pau Gasol was outstanding en route to the Lakers 2009 and 2010 titles, earning recognition as arguably the best power forward in the game during that 2 year run for the Lakers.
Dirk led the charge for the Mavs in their 2011 title, who featured an imposing front line with 3 seven-footers.
So yeah, if D-Will wants to play with a talented young big man, he need look no further than the Lakers. There's no doubt that we'll have either Bynum or Howard in L.A. by the time D-Will has a chance to explore his options via free agency next summer.  |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 03:22 PM PST
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thatguyoverthere wrote:
jc89 wrote:
well with dalembert beasting as there center wouldn't that make it more attractive for them to pair gasol with him??? i disagree that houston is not interested in pau anymore. they want a low post scoring threat whom you can run an offense through. gasol is that kind of guy. i do agree about the odom thing. just stupid.
Of course everyone's interested in Pau Gasol, but people aren't that stupid to gut their team when they know they don't have a hole at the position they thought was weak and needed improvement. Dalembert came in as an 8 PPG/8 RPG Center, which is why Gasol was way more attractive at the beginning of the season. Dalembert has gotten double-digit rebounds and points in 4 of the last 5 games, which makes him more attractive as a keeper at the Center position. Luis Scola is one of the Rocket's leading scorers, so they don't absolutely need Pau at the Power Forward position either. Use some logic.
.... the rockets wanted to pair gasol with nene or marc. both of whom are double-double guys (just like what dalembert has been avg. lately). sooo if anything, it would make gasol more attractive to them with the way dalem has been playing. scola is the same player he was last year. he's not a player you run offense through. his avg. are actually a little bit lower than last year. i think they would be willing to look at a deal for pau still, that's all i'm saying. |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 03:24 PM PST
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If we were to get both a few things would have to happen. First, Kobe would have to get off his high horse and accept help and sharing "his" team. After Kobes endorsement, which isnt a necessity but I feel like its turning off other superstars, we would have to get Dwight. The Nets will only part with D-Will once Howards dealt somewhere. If we are talking direct trades with the Magic then it would have to be Bynum, MWP, and probably a 1st round pick for Howard and Turk. Then we turn to the Nets and again assuming its a direct trade, we would have to trade Gasol, Blake, and another 1st round pick or maybe two. Our team would then look like this:
D.Will/Fish/Morris
Kobe/Kapono/Goudelock
Barnes/Ebanks/Walton
McBob/Hedo/Caracter
Dwight/Murphy
Thats a much better team than we have now. Fish and Hedo could lead the second unit with improving young players in Ebanks and McBob if we can hold on to them. I still think it is a pipe dream. I don't see us getting either one personally. |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 03:25 PM PST
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jc89 wrote:
.... the rockets wanted to pair gasol with nene or marc. both of whom are double-double guys (just like what dalembert has been avg. lately). sooo if anything, it would make gasol more attractive to them with the way dalem has been playing. scola is the same player he was last year. he's not a player you run offense through. his avg. are actually a little bit lower than last year. i think they would be willing to look at a deal for pau still, that's all i'm saying.
For Goran Dragic. LOL |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 03:27 PM PST
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| If we can't get d-will I say this is the next best thing and only thing, trade Paul with artest or whoever, for milsap and devin Harris |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 03:29 PM PST
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As I posted on another trail, the question is not what Mitch wants to do. He is constrained by Jimbo who really runs the team, just like Dr. Buss did. If Jim Ballcap has decided to go cheap, then forget DWill, forget DHowartd, forget mote titles.With the new CBA, he will have to use some Time Warner money and go over the cap, regardless of how punitive the Luxiruy Tax is. If "The Son Of The Owner Who Didn't Buiild Anything" wants to pocket all of the TW bucks, we are screwe. Simple as that.
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 03:30 PM PST
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if Dwill goes into FA no chance of lakers getting him. only team would be Dallas.
ive been saying this for a while now, but im not surprised that this is news. the nets are horrible, and there is no way Dwill is staying with them unless the unimaginable happens and D12 goes to the nets. lets just say... ill be extremely shocked if that happens.
so the nets wont trade Dwill unless the Howard situation is set in stone, and they dont see any major need to trade Dwill since they'll be under the cap even if Dwill walks to FA.
so im gna say lakers FO bites on the howard for bynum trade. and then quickly look to trade gasol for dwill. im thinking a three team trade solidifies this happening. if houston wanted gasol before i dont see why they wouldnt want him now. dalembart and gasol better then dalembert and scola imo. gasol can play defense and is still an elite if not the most skilled pf in the league now.
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 04:00 PM PST
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| The only thing bad about this news is that now we Laker fans wait even more to what will happen to D12 situation. DAMMIT! More stress!! |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 04:07 PM PST
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TBH gasol is losing trade value every day. because teams know the lakers are eager to trade him. however there are teams that would love to have him. san antonio, golden state, houston(but not for kyle lowry they aint stupid) and the 76rs doug collins loves big men. i think we should forget about howard for now and add immediate help. how about pau and metta for monta ellis, david lee and dorell wright? i think the warriors would do it since the new owner wants to contend right away and mark jackson loves pau. not to mention ellis has clay thompson behind him and they got stephen curry at pg.
for us I think this makes sense because ellis has the tools to be a lockdown pg defender. and i know hes a scorer first but can anyone here tell me with a straight face we dont need another perimeter scorer. plus hes excellent at driving and dishing, i know that doesnt mean hes even a good pg, but we dont need that what we need is a playmaker and he can do that. also david lee is a throw in. but dorrel wright gives us the athletic defender and 3pt shooter we need. |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 04:08 PM PST
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| Sounds like the Nets wouldn't want Gasol. Gasol is obviously way above average player but he's not a superstar and is getting old. That would be the centerpiece of any offer to the Nets obviously. |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 - 04:26 PM PST
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^^ Not sure why the Nets wouldn't want Gasol. Him and Lopez would combine to be the longest and most skilled front line in the league.
Pau's only 31, so he's not that old. his current averages of 16 and 9 are nothing to scoff at, plus he's shooting a high percentage too. Pau's been more efficient than D-Will so far this season. |
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Haterade wrote:
^^ Not sure why the Nets wouldn't want Gasol. Him and Lopez would combine to be the longest and most skilled front line in the league.
Probably because Humphries has been averaging a double-double lately. Unless Humphries can move over to the Small Forward spot, I don't think the Nets would want Pau Gasol very much. |
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| the nets with gasol would be a pretty interesting line up. assuming morris is traded or maybe goudelock wit gasol. they'd have farmar, marrow, brooks, pau, lopez. marrow and brooks are scoring machines. that'd make the nets much more interesting imo. and as much as most people love to cap on farmar he hasnt been too bad as long as he doesnt try to score. shooting % is horrendous. nets should take it. |
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K0BE82481 wrote:
If we can't get d-will I say this is the next best thing and only thing, trade Paul with artest or whoever, for milsap and devin Harris
bad trade for the lakers.. lol we can get any of those players with the Lamar TPE IF the Jazz were willing too. Why give gasol and artest? Devin Harris isn't a pass first PG either. If we can pick him up for just the TPE either of those players would help. But IMO would be bad to trade gasol for those 2. |
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