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Post subject: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 05:06 PM PST
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| yeah we won last night without kobe, but that blazers team did not have a good point guard. come the post season the teams we will face will kill us on that spot as they have been even before this season. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 05:27 PM PST
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| I have been saying this for 2 years, I totally agree with you. They need to make a trade now or I believe they will not repeat. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 05:38 PM PST
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| The more I've thought about the idea of the Lakers trading for a PG halfway through the season, the more I don't like it. Who ever we get will obviously come off the bench the rest of the year and won't have enough knowledge to run the triangle offense. Farmar is currently playing as well as any back up point guard that the Lakers could possibly get. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 05:44 PM PST
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| blazers dont have a good point guard? jerryd bayless is a beast pg |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 06:11 PM PST
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| farmar? everyone gose right past him. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 06:15 PM PST
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| Lies Farmar can play defense if you pay attention Farmar struggles against big PG D.Williams and Chauncey Billups. he still get pick off screens. but Farmar plays good defense on small quick PGs. I know most of you guys hate him because he is cocky but so is every athlete. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 06:19 PM PST
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| i dont hate him but those big pg's are the ones we will face in the playoffs. we have half the season to brake one in. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 10:48 PM PST
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| J.Redd24: The NBA is a pick and roll league now and Farmar kills us on pick and roll defense with his nonwillingness to run after a guy hard like an Artest or Fish or even Kobe. That's why I can't deal with Farmar. I also can't fool with Farmar because he looks for his shot first and second and then pass third. The guy has a nice shot and that's about it, he can't drive that well because he has no moves and he can't even run a pick and roll. The more and more I hear about Hinrich the more I love the idea. |
_________________ "I got the ball with like with eight seconds left to go in the game, I passed it right back like a hot potatoe." - Andrew Bynum after Kobe hit the go ahead shot to win the game against Boston.
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 01:11 AM PST
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| He can drive the ball the problem with farmar is the Triangle limit his abilit. which is why Phil bench him when he does not play with in the system. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 01:20 AM PST
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| JRedd24: All the times I've seen Farmar play this guy really doesn't have the ability to break someone down off the dribble. He will try to drive the ball by trying to beat someone to the basket but he doesn't have the handles to break someone down from what I can tell. He's okay in the open court where he gets to use his speed, however he seems to only want to throw lobs which makes him look dumb at times. |
_________________ "I got the ball with like with eight seconds left to go in the game, I passed it right back like a hot potatoe." - Andrew Bynum after Kobe hit the go ahead shot to win the game against Boston.
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 01:59 PM PST
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| man. do u guys watch the games or just look at the box score. farmar can stay with smaller quicker guards? are u freaking kidding me? the next guy farmar defends well, will be the first. farmar cant break anyone down off the dribble. um... farmar is at his most effective when he is driving the ball to the basket. al he wants to do is throw lobs? the other day i posted about the lack of farmar to bynum lob dunks. then either denver game or the cha game we saw a farmar to bynum lob. only one i remember this season. (missed the portland game). b4 the gasol trade, farmar to bynum alley oops would happen at least twice per game. c'mon guys lets watch the games before we comment. sure we can disagree, but lets not make fools of ourselves. farmar cant guard anybody. that is obvious |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 02:55 PM PST
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| It is surprising there is any disagreement at all here about Farmar and his defense. Anyone watching a Laker game will see him get beat constantly and easily. The only thing good I ever see Jordan do on defense is occasionally jump the passing lane and get a steal or poke a ball free and get a steal. He is a tremendous liability on defense and a selfish shoot first player on offense. Fish plays smart on defense but was never a great defender and is now too slow to be effective against most PGs. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 02:59 PM PST
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you're right he gets beat too much. made me sick the other night when he kept bodying up to lawson trip after trip. and lawson kept going around/by him. no adjustment. try backing off. make him make a jumper. he already proved in pre season and both games this year, farmar cant guard him or anybody else. lets face it, defense is not his strong suit. that being said, i think farmar would be highly effective playing with starters. - fish of course |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 04:21 PM PST
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| It is not about Farmar. It is about the fact that Fish, Farmar and Brown cannot play D. We need a quality PG so do not single out a part of the problem. The starting PG is the real problem. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 04:32 PM PST
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maraud,
Actually, it is about Farmar. Shannon is doing great in his role as a backup SG. Fish plays smart within his advanced basketball age and limited ability. Fish fights through screens and draws charges at key moments by sacrificing his body and he provides lots of leadership for the team. Yes, we need a PG and the reason we need a PG is because Fish is winding down in his career and Farmar has been a complete failure in stepping up and taking the torch. |
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Post subject: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 05:03 PM PST
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| Farmar doesn't play great defense. And honestly guys, Shannon Brown's defense is extremely overrated. Everybody thinks he's awesome at defense just because he isn't quite as bad as Jordan, but really he doesn't defend that much better than Jordan does. Anyway, I definitely feel like Jordan is capable of taking on the starting role of pg. He doesn't do badly against smaller pgs. An example is Brooks, when he started in the playoffs he played him very well.I feel that he is going to be a great point guard when he finally lands a starting role because it will help him with his decision making and consistency which aside from defense seem to be his two main problems. I do agree that a trade needs to be made in order for this Lakers team to repeat though. |
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Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 07:49 PM PST
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| Farmar is quick, but only going north to south. He has no lateral quickness at all. We got lucky in the playoffs last year that the only fast point guard we faced was Brooks from a completly broken down Houston team. I agree that any one coming in now would have to be taught the system and would be of no value to us this year (unless it is Janero Pargo or Tyron Lue who know the system and can play here but they are both getting up there in age.) This is a problem that MUST, MUST, MUST be addressed in the draft this year. (fast point guard, good defense, any offense would be a plus but not required) |
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Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 07:52 PM PST
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| Not going to get anything in the draft unless we trade up as I believe Memphis has our 1st round pick this year. |
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Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 08:11 PM PST
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We don't need a high 1st round pick for this. Taking some like Aaron Brooks(drafted 26th when we had the 19th pick) or Darren Collison(21st). We just need someone with speed. Hell, draft Usain Bolt. Who cares if he can't shoot, we don't need any anyway  |
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Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 08:40 PM PST
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| brown is a solid defender, he is strong and athletic. but if you are asking him to guard aaron brooks n rondo, thats a diff story, brown is built more like a 2 guard. but guys like billups, rondo, brooks...those guys light up opposing defenses on a nightly basis. it isnt just the "lakers problem." farmar is quick enough but doesnt possess much defensive IQ. I realize we need a change in the future, but I don't think we are going to lose a series in the playoffs just because of an opposing pg |
_________________ "Yeah, I walked in the shower," he said. "I'm not a homosexual or nothing like that, but Kobe had no clothes on." -- Ron Artest
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Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 09:10 PM PST
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| i actually am starting to think we need an athletic wing player who can knock down the 3 more than a pg. brown COULD play pg if we need and farmar is playing better. we just dont have the speed we used to with ariza (not bashing artest, i was a fan of this move). i like either the minn. (sessions, hollins, brewer) idea or milwakee (ridnour, bell, thomas, delfino). not sure what combo of players we could get but this team just needs some sort of shake up... energy and athleticism coming off the bench other than brown. hopefully mitch can work something out in the next 2 weeks |
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Post subject: Re: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 09:19 PM PST
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gemfow wrote:
JRedd24: All the times I've seen Farmar play this guy really doesn't have the ability to break someone down off the dribble. He will try to drive the ball by trying to beat someone to the basket but he doesn't have the handles to break someone down from what I can tell. He's okay in the open court where he gets to use his speed, however he seems to only want to throw lobs which makes him look dumb at times.
I'm watching the Hornets Magic game, and although he's small, Darren Collison has great body control, like Farmar does, and speed. Anyone have a better scouting report on Darren Collison of the Hornets? |
_________________ "I mean the guy has every skill...that you could want." - Stu Lantz on Kobe Bryant
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 08, 2010 - 10:44 PM PST
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| The Lakers need a pure scorer to come off the bench, a Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford type. You never know who is coming off the bench to give a spark, if anyone at all. It would be nice to know that every night you can count on one guy to come in and produce. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 06:15 AM PST
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| Bench help and a PG. That's what we need however you look at it. Yup. Now how to get it. Who will take our junk? The only way to get back quality is to trade an asset. I think LA/LA will agree Bynum is the bait, packaged with some offal. If we solve those other issues we can live without him np. Witness our last 2 wins without Big B. Yes Bryant also out opened the floor for some guys to step up. But SD don't say hey we also don't need Bryant then. Let's not get silly. We can live without Bynum. It's been proven over and over the team is better with O'dumb and Gasol. Not Bryant without whom we would have lost several games, including Boston. That Mitch says no go on a Bynum trade just shows how really short sighted he in fact is. I'm no more a Kupcake fan than I am a Bynum fan. |
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Post subject: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 07:10 AM PST
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| Other PGs can't wait to get a hold of D-Fish and Farmar. Yes, Phil knows what he is doing by not starting Shannon over Fish because of intangibles. I had to really think about it, Why is Fish still the starter? Because he has proven himself and Shannon has proven he could be the next Harold Miner. We need a pure shooter, defender, 6'4 and up. Can't have Billups but we can get Hinrich. He is a combo guard and he did pretty well at the PG postion in Chi-town before Rose. Also, if we have to trade Badnum for a PG then do it. REALLY, REALLY what has he done consistantly but beat up on lower level players. C-mon man. Check the stats (mainly wins) when Gasoft starts at center. Odom and Gasoft together is much better. Trading Badnum, Powell, and Morrison for Hinrich (best available), Thomas and Miller. PG question solved plus bench help and expiring contracts. |
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Post subject: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 08:34 AM PST
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| We are really not going deep into the playoffs without changes I think we can all agree. So why not make changes now before the opportunities pass us by. We need to start thinking about next year, which is what we should have done last year...bye bye Bynum |
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Post subject: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 12:55 PM PST
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LMAO. Trade Bynum. what dope are you guys on really let me get a hit. Yea its true Gasol and Odom always play well together when Bynum hurt. But Bynum and Odom play just as well when Gasol was hurt. Have you guys for got how the celtics had their way with us with Odom and Gasol. Odom and Gasol are good vs your run and gun teams and fines type teams like the spurs, hawks, suns, hornets. But I promise you gasol and Odom will struggle against teams who are physical down low. like Denver, Houston, Boston Cleveland.
The problem with the lakers are three things number 1 Kobe Bryant needs to start making players better he needs to be how Odom was last night. put your teamates in position to score and get them involved. Like I said their is no reason for Kobe to take 18-25 shots to hit 30 pts. Second I agree we need consistant play from the PG position I love Fisher and I understand why Phil starts him for the simple fact he plays good off Kobe can make the tough shots. and we need a spark off the bench with Farmar and shanon.
last and Finally we need this damn injury Bug to get ghost. Gasol and bynum need to learn to compliment one another. you guys have to be patient remember Gasol and Bynum never played a full season with each other. If we trade Bynum we will tamper with our depth and versatility the team has. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: still in need of a good point guard!!
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 03:59 PM PST
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OC_Showtime wrote:
maraud,
Actually, it is about Farmar. Shannon is doing great in his role as a backup SG. Fish plays smart within his advanced basketball age and limited ability. Fish fights through screens and draws charges at key moments by sacrificing his body and he provides lots of leadership for the team. Yes, we need a PG and the reason we need a PG is because Fish is winding down in his career and Farmar has been a complete failure in stepping up and taking the torch.
I totally disagree, Brown's defense is not good and his O is eratic. Farmars D is as bad as Brown's but he is more consistant on offense and Fish is just old and slow. We need a PG because none of them are good enough for a CH team. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 05:37 PM PST
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LMAO. Trade Bynum. what dope are you guys on really let me get a hit. Yea its true Gasol and Odom always play well together when Bynum hurt. But Bynum and Odom play just as well when Gasol was hurt. Have you guys for got how the celtics had their way with us with Odom and Gasol. Odom and Gasol are good vs your run and gun teams and fines type teams like the spurs, hawks, suns, hornets. But I promise you gasol and Odom will struggle against teams who are physical down low. like Denver, Houston, Boston Cleveland.
The problem with the lakers are three things number 1 Kobe Bryant needs to start making players better he needs to be how Odom was last night. put your teamates in position to score and get them involved. Like I said their is no reason for Kobe to take 18-25 shots to hit 30 pts. Second I agree we need consistant play from the PG position I love Fisher and I understand why Phil starts him for the simple fact he plays good off Kobe can make the tough shots. and we need a spark off the bench with Farmar and shanon.
last and Finally we need this damn injury Bug to get ghost. Gasol and bynum need to learn to compliment one another. you guys have to be patient remember Gasol and Bynum never played a full season with each other. If we trade Bynum we will tamper with our depth and versatility the team has.
Don't think very many here would go along with your assertions any more. They are archaic ideas and not in current reality. Another case of rose tinted glasses with out a reality check in mind. It's ok, you'll come around, everyone does lol |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 07:03 PM PST
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| Bring back Smush Parker! *vomit* |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 07:15 PM PST
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| you are so the object of Ridicule to my amusement. what a peon I spit facts and keep it all the way 100. you really think LA can win a ring with Gasol and Odom and no bynum. Dude do you know how inconsistant Lamar is and how Paul stuggles agains Physical teams to find a rhythm. Rite and trade Bynum for whom may I ask Jackie moon and coffee brown. make sense my good man is all Im saying |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 07:25 PM PST
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| did u just spit and call me a peon? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 07:25 PM PST
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| How bout Keyon Dooling? New jersey should be looking for expiring contracts, I can't think of any other realistic trades at this point. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 07:48 PM PST
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J.Redd24 wrote:
you are so the object of Ridicule to my amusement. what a peon I spit facts and keep it all the way 100. you really think LA can win a ring with Gasol and Odom and no bynum. Dude do you know how inconsistant Lamar is and how Paul stuggles agains Physical teams to find a rhythm. Rite and trade Bynum for whom may I ask Jackie moon and coffee brown. make sense my good man is all Im saying
J.Redd24,
I understand if you disagree with Shepherd. Believe me, I understand. Still you should carefully consider your words. You don't want to start with personal attacks here on the LTB like calling someone a "peon". By using the word "peon" you are suggesting that Shepherd is somehow of low social status and that stuff is not tolerated here.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 07:53 PM PST
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| keep your pants on its all in fun he know I wasnt disrespectn him. man should never be sensative thats a female trait |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 07:57 PM PST
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J.Redd24 wrote:
keep your pants on its all in fun he know I wasnt disrespectn him. man should never be sensative thats a female trait
Okay then. As long as both of you understand it was a joke and not meant as a personal attack, then it's fine. I'm just trying to keep the peace here, that's all.
As for a man being sensitive: that's all relative to the specific man or woman and I personally don't approve of rash generalizations and stereotypes. For example, men who work in film or on broadway as actors can be remarkably sensitive at times. Their job requires that they possess more sensitivity than perhaps your average joe. I generally don't judge people and expect them to behave or respond a certain way based on their gender. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 08:06 PM PST
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers nee
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 08:10 PM PST
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Shepherd wrote:
Lmao...now I know how you feel SD...he just called me a woman...hahahhahahaaa.
Well some things are accepted in certain cultures and social circles while other things are not. Assume that I don't have a sense of humor and we'll get along just fine from here on out. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 08:19 PM PST
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| yes sir I sure dont want to be on your badside sir. may I be excuse I do not want to be on punished |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 08:27 PM PST
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J.Redd24 wrote:
you are so the object of Ridicule to my amusement. what a peon I spit facts and keep it all the way 100. you really think LA can win a ring with Gasol and Odom and no bynum. Dude do you know how inconsistant Lamar is and how Paul stuggles agains Physical teams to find a rhythm. Rite and trade Bynum for whom may I ask Jackie moon and coffee brown. make sense my good man is all Im saying
Didn't the Lakers win a title last year with Oak Tree contributing a humongous "ZILCH?" Get your facts straight there, buddy. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 08:39 PM PST
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All Okay another one. Bynum may was not a factor during the whole playoffs but if you read what I said Budd. and that is Gasol and Odom as a starting 5 struggle against physical teams. We played Orlando for crying out loud Orlando the only physical player on the block was Howard. If Gasol and Lamar so good why the bleep we did not win the title against Boston. Or why the bleep it took us 7 games to beat houston. or how was it that denver gave us a hard time. Do your homework and come back to the table with some knowledge. (all in fun)
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 08:47 PM PST
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| You guys certainly are a contemptuous lot. Do as you will... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a PG
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 09:05 PM PST
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J.Redd24 wrote:
All Okay another one. Bynum may was not a factor during the whole playoffs but if you read what I said Budd. and that is Gasol and Odom as a starting 5 struggle against physical teams. We played Orlando for crying out loud Orlando the only physical player on the block was Howard. If Gasol and Lamar so good why the bleep we did not win the title against Boston. Or why the bleep it took us 7 games to beat houston. or how was it that denver gave us a hard time. Do your homework and come back to the table with some knowledge. (all in fun)
Aye Mr. lakeshowsd can xexodus69 come out and play
Dude, what's your point? You can bring up how they didn't win it all 2 years ago all you want, but the fact still remains that they did play well enough together to win a title last year, which clearly contradicts your statement about them unable to win a championship without Oak Tree. It's all about "what have you done lately?" and the combination of LO and Gasol has thus far proven that this team is more effective and efficient both offensively and defensively.
Even 2 years ago when Oak Tree spent most of his time on the bench nurturing a knee injury, who do you think played on our front court? You're damn right. It was the duo of LO and Gasol that finally got us to the NBA finals. Granted, they didn't beat the Lepers, but that's when a beaten team gains experience for the following year. Don't even talk about the Houston series. So what if they dragged it to 7 games. Big f*cking deal. The Lakers still whooped their *sses and got to the finals, so it's pointless to even referring to that.
Had the one-and-done Lepers made it back to the finals last year, the Lakers would have beaten them with the same duo. Oak Tree has been a non-factor ever since he got drafted. He hasn't done anything of significance for you to tightly attach your lips to his *ss. It's so obvious, but you chose to ignore it. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 09:11 PM PST
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| DJ Augustin would be a great addition, hes a pretty good 3 point shooter, not great but with this Laker Team he would get open 3's, hes also pretty quick to guard those fast PG, Farmar for DJ Augstin |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 09:14 PM PST
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| lies you still do not get my point. and check my post will you i get on bynum just like i do kobe. my point is this and this time follow me. the lakers can beat any team with lamar and paul all but physical teams like denver and boston and this yr clevland. why because when we play physical team gasol and odom get exposed and yea that duo did get us to the finals but it didnt get us the ring which is what we play for. that duo my friend gave up an 18pt lead and got on by a guy name leon powe. so with that being said you can take that duo you just better pray lakers play the hawks in the finals or the suns in the conference. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers need a
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 09:23 PM PST
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| J.Redd24, I wouldn't waste my breath if I were you. These guys have Bynum hating down to a science. They pick apart his every flaw and magnify it 1000 times over. No good game is ever good enough, and every bad game is a "perfect example" of why Bynum should be traded. As far as they're concerned, no excuse, no matter how valid, is sufficient to excuse Bynum's poor play. As I've said before, it's a matter of unreasonable expectations on their part and I stand by my position in that regard. It's not worth debating anymore because time will reveal who is right and who is wrong where it concerns Andrew Bynum. Without a doubt one of them will attempt to contradict my statements and place some silly label on me like "Bynum Lover" or "Oak Tree Hugger" or some other such nonsense. At this point I could care less. I'm dedicated to giving Drew another 2 or 3 years to develop into the All-Star I'm most confident he'll become. I've said as much several times and I will not be moved from that position. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers nee
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 09:23 PM PST
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J.Redd24 wrote:
lies you still do not get my point. and check my post will you i get on bynum just like i do kobe. my point is this and this time follow me. the lakers can beat any team with lamar and paul all but physical teams like denver and boston and this yr clevland. why because when we play physical team gasol and odom get exposed and yea that duo did get us to the finals but it didnt get us the ring which is what we play for. that duo my friend gave up an 18pt lead and got on by a guy name leon powe. so with that being said you can take that duo you just better pray lakers play the hawks in the finals or the suns in the conference.
LMAO...Firstly, you've got to write with correct grammars because it's really annoying. Capital letter after every period (.). Stop with the run-on sentences. If you want people to comprehend what you're trying to say, then at least express your written thoughts with some basic correct grammars.
Secondly, your points are invalid because with the same duo, they went ahead and won the championship the following year. So anything that happened prior is really a moot point. You got it? Man, it's really tough trying to reason with a clueless fan. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 09:35 PM PST
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| oh my god talking to you is like talking to a stop sign. I said they won the title with that duo but orlando was no physcal team. who the hell is rashad lewis on the block defending gasol or lamar vs garnet or perkins or kenyon and nene. I said LA cant win the title playing a physical team. seem to me you a tad bit on the slow side. now as for the run on sentences im type documents working on my website and im in a hurry. stacy dash |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers nee
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 09:36 PM PST
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lakeshowsd wrote:
J.Redd24, I wouldn't waste my breath if I were you. These guys have Bynum hating down to a science. They pick apart his every flaw and magnify it 1000 times over. No good game is ever good enough, and every bad game is a "perfect example" of why Bynum should be traded. As far as they're concerned, no excuse, no matter how valid, is sufficient to excuse Bynum's poor play. As I've said before, it's a matter of unreasonable expectations on their part and I stand by my position in that regard. It's not worth debating anymore because time will reveal who is right and who is wrong where it concerns Andrew Bynum. Without a doubt one of them will attempt to contradict my statements and place some silly label on me like "Bynum Lover" or "Oak Tree Hugger" or some other such nonsense. At this point I could care less. I'm dedicated to giving Drew another 2 or 3 years to develop into the All-Star I'm most confident he'll become. I've said as much several times and I will not be moved from that position.
With that said, here's another great song that truly depicts your feeling for the young stud, Oak Tree:
Nothing Wrong With You
by The Finn Brothers
It's a slow parade
Down a dusty road
We've learned to take abuse
From devils we don't know
People who have lost all heart
Look for someone else to blame
You just keep on walking
When they call you a dirty name
All the mud in this town
All the dirt in this world
None of it sticks on you
(You shake it off)
Cause you're better than that
And you don't need it
There's nothing wrong with you
The moment that we dread
It comes all too soon
Voices in your head
Still carry on the tune
Let the sound come in
From the world outside
You just keep on singing
When they tell you filthy lies
All the mud in this town
All the dirt in this world
None of it sticks on you
(You shake it off)
Cause you're better than that
And you don't need it
There's nothing wrong with you
Remember how it made you hurt
Even as you fight to go on
Turn it into something else
Turn it into something else
All the mud in this town
All the dirt in this world
None of it sticks on you
(You shake it off)
Cause you're better than that
And you don't need it
No, you don't believe it
All the mud in this town
All the dirt in this world
None of it sticks on you
(You shake it off)
Cause you're better than that
And you don't need it
There's nothing wrong with you
There's nothing wrong with you
No
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: It's official the Lakers
Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 09:40 PM PST
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J.Redd,
Until you go back and finish your GED, I won't be engaging anymore conversation with you. Let me know when you complete it, then we can start talking. |
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