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    Post subject: Kobe is 26 points behind Iverson for 16th on AT Scoring List  PostPosted: Nov 06, 2009 - 04:34 PM PST
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    In 1996, the Philadelphia 76ers selected Allen Iverson, a sophomore at Georgetown, with the No. 1 overall pick in the NBA Draft. Twelve picks later, the Charlotte Hornets selected Kobe Bryant on behalf of Jerry West and the Lakers.

    As NBA Commissioner David Stern read those two names, two of the league's greatest scorers - ever - were about to begin splashing nets.

    Thirteen years later, both Iverson and Bryant continue their assault up the NBA's all-time scoring list, with only 14 players in the history of the league having racked up more buckets.

    Bryant will lead his defending champion Lakers against Iverson and his new team, the Memphis Grizzlies, on Friday night at STAPLES Center, but not before we take a closer look at these two pantheon scorers:

    Iverson Opens Assault Early
    As a rookie, A.I. began his onslaught immediately, averaging 23.5 points per game while channeling a lightning bolt on the hardwood. He tapered off just a bit in year two at 22.0 per evening, but then scored at least 26 points a game until the 2006-07 season, going for 31.2 per game in Philly before being traded to Denver (where he averaged 24.8 points). He rebounded to average 26.4 points for Denver in 2007-08, but dipped all the way to 17.4 points a game in Detroit in 2008-09 as his minutes and effectiveness declined. Still, A.I. had put up five seasons of 30-plus points, led by his 33.0 output in 2005-06. Not too shabby.

    Bryant Builds Steadily
    Just 17 when he signed with a team that would revolve around Shaquille O'Neal in the post, Bryant's bucket-making career opened with much less scoring gusto than Iverson, as he posted 7.6 points per game as a rookie playing 15.5 minutes per night before doubling his output to 15.4 points in 26 minutes the next season. Then in 1998-99, Bryant began playing big minutes (37), hitting the 22.5 per game mark that season and never dipping below 24 over his next 11 seasons, including three seasons of at least 30 points a night highlighted by his 35.4 per night burst in 2005-06.

    Just 26 To Tie
    Iverson's early-career advantage over Bryant eroded steadily last season, as "The Answer" struggled to score 995 points just as Bryant played all 82 games and posted 2,201 points. Furthermore, a red-hot scoring start to the 2009-10 season for Kobe - he has hit the 40-point plateau twice in five games, the 97th and 98th time he's done that - has allowed him to almost catch Iverson.

    In fact, with 31 points on November 3rd against the Thunder and 41 on the 4th in Houston, Bryant (23,986) moved within 26 points of A.I. (24,012) for 16th on the NBA’s all-time scoring list. Bryant had climbed to 17th on the list with his first two free throws on April 10th at Portland last season, passing Charles Barkley (23,757). Last season, Bryant also passed Robert Parish (23,334), Adrian Dantley, Elgin Baylor (23,149), Clyde Drexler (22,195), Gary Payton (21,813) and Larry Bird (21,791). Next on the NBA’s all-time list ahead of Bryant and Iverson are Patrick Ewing (24,815) and West (25,192).

    Traditionally, this would be the sort of thing Bryant cares little to nothing about. After all, he seems to measure his worth in championships, not scoring titles.

    Yet for fans of basketball, watching two of the world's greatest all-time scorers match up once again on Friday night at STAPLES Center will be a treat, whether Bryant passes his draft class mate on the charts or not.

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    Wow. Considering how Pau and maybe Drew might be out, and Allen Iverson coming off the bench. Kobe could pass A.I. tonight.

    This season he'll pass West in the AT Lakers Scoring list
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    Post subject: RE: Kobe is 26 points behind Iverson for 16th on AT Scoring   PostPosted: Nov 06, 2009 - 07:27 PM PST
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    Iverson is headed nowhere with the Grizzles, so even if Kobe doesn't pass him tonight, which I think he will, he will still get him soon as Allen's scoring will begin to plummet.

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    Wow. Considering how Pau and maybe Drew might be out, and Allen Iverson coming off the bench. Kobe could pass A.I. tonight.


    Yep, should pass it before the first quarter is over.

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    Post subject: RE: Kobe is 26 points behind Iverson for 16th on AT Scoring  PostPosted: Nov 06, 2009 - 07:46 PM PST
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    Hopefully Kobe sinks his 17 point over Iverson with a facial dunk...That would be classic!

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    Post subject: RE: Kobe is 26 points behind Iverson for 16th on AT Scoring  PostPosted: Nov 07, 2009 - 02:41 AM PST
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    Mamba passed AI in thie game. However, I felt a twinge of sadness looking at the older, slower and swaggerless Iverson. It kinda hit me that Kobe, too, will someday slow down and become a shadow of his former basketball self. So, guys, enjoy him while he still is the best. It will not, sadly, last forever.
     
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    I see what you mean, BaadMaster. and i too feel really sad for AI, but if you saw Kobe out there being a beast that he was, you wouldn't even worry about Iverson. I think Kobe right now is at his prime??

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    Post subject: Re: RE: Kobe is 26 points behind Iverson for 16th on AT Scor  PostPosted: Nov 07, 2009 - 04:40 AM PST
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    KBLakers24 wrote:
    ....I think Kobe right now is at his prime??


    He sure looks like it. Who knows, maybe he can play at this level until he is fifty. Nothing about Kobe would surprise me!
     
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    ....I think Kobe right now is at his prime??


    He sure looks like it. Who knows, maybe he can play at this level until he is fifty. Nothing about Kobe would surprise me!


    being a little sarcastic there ma friend?

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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Kobe is 26 points behind Iverson for 16th on AT  PostPosted: Nov 08, 2009 - 05:21 PM PST
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    Speaking of Iverson, his #3.1M one year contract might be a sweet way for the lakers to resolve their own PG problems. He's coming off the bench behind Conley which must be incredibly frustrating and his coach will not lend him much of an ear. Just a thought, Farmar plus something for AI to the Lakers. WE've done well with our Memphis trades in recent years...AI is till a 30 ppg player if needed and got a bum rap in Detroit. He far less mouthy than Kobe. All super talented people get frustrated with the limits they experience from other less talented people.

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    BaadMaster wrote:
    Mamba passed AI in thie game. However, I felt a twinge of sadness looking at the older, slower and swaggerless Iverson. It kinda hit me that Kobe, too, will someday slow down and become a shadow of his former basketball self. So, guys, enjoy him while he still is the best. It will not, sadly, last forever.


    They came iinto the league at the same time and AI is a few years older (younger than Fish). AI's slowness is like an urban legend perpetrated by the events in Detroit...

    He scored 18 points in 20 or so minutes with 4 assists in his second game back from injury coming off the bench. I would take AI over Farmar in a millisecond...Betcha' Mitch has offered a few hmmmmm's to this one..

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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Kobe is 26 points behind Iverson for 16th on AT   PostPosted: Nov 08, 2009 - 05:29 PM PST
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    NO Allen Iverson please. This guy would be like a thorn on the Lakers. Don't even mention his name.
     
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    Axle wrote:
    NO Allen Iverson please. This guy would be like a thorn on the Lakers. Don't even mention his name.

    Allen would want to be a starter and I don't think Fisher would appreciate Iverson replacing him. That would be the start of friction between players among the Lakers.
    If you don't want a championship, then go ahead and trade for Iverson. He is a very bad sport. Just look what he done to the Grizz because they didn't let him start. He took off???? He said personal business and that is a bunch of BS. He said that so that they would not fine him. The guy is NO GOOD.
     
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