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Post subject: The Zombie Chronicles: Adventures Of A Non-existant Bench
Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 04:58 AM PST
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In a now well-established Laker tradition, let's take the latest snapshot of the performance of the Laker Undead.
Game 5: (at Houston)
Zombie Squad: 16 piddling points; +/- = - 6
Houston Reserves: 28 points
Let's all give them a collective accolade, which in their case can only be demonstrated by intoning a smelly, collective fart...
Even as Zombies, these guys are a laughing stock.
We all owe a debt of gratitude to the Laker FO for their humanitarian and politically correct decision to employ those less fortunate than those still living. The FO is a shining light showing us the way to greater tolerance, and right thinking! After all, we must not discriminate on the superficial basis, as other franchises do, of their players being capable of playing basketball. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 10:45 AM PST
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 11:27 AM PST
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We all owe a debt of gratitude to the Laker FO for their humanitarian and politically correct decision to employ those less fortunate than those still living. The FO is a shining light showing us the way to greater tolerance, and right thinking! After all, we must not discriminate on the superficial basis, as other franchises do, of their players being capable of playing basketball.
Steve,
The Lakers are perhaps moving the notion of a Welfare State into the realm of sports. Has anyone checked on Mitch's ideological beliefs? |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 12:28 PM PST
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| Guys, calm down. We need to see the team at full strength first before jumping to judgements. I think once we get Pau back and LO returns to the sixth man role, our bench production should increase and improve as a result. Now, dont get me wrong, i dont expect them to be the top bench in the league once Pau returns, but i do believe it will improve considerably. Besides, it is still early in the season and Phil is still trying to figure out rotations that work the best. Like Farmar stated, the rotations must get shorter in order to create continuity. However, we havent seen that in the first five games thus far. I think it is unfair to judge the bench players based on the scarce minutes that they get to play. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 12:48 PM PST
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Steve,
I have long since given up on the Lakers bench. They are inept on offense and defence and if PJ leaves them in there longer than 3 minutes they blow whatever lead was given to them. The entire insignificant 7 should be sold to the lowest bidder and we should start over with a new second unit. That is the kind of sweep that we need I also can't believe that PJ keeps putting in this team as a platoon, to see leads vanish in an instant. Is PJ Stupid,insane,or just masochistic? |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 01:05 PM PST
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I agree that it's not totally fair to judge with out Pau playing.
Lamar changes the bench quite a bit. I think it shows because they look like a squad with no identity, with out their leader.
Granted, they are not the best bench, nor have they ever been.
But, in reality what team has the mass of talent in their starting 5, and sixth man that the Lakers have? Furthermore, most teams only go about 7 players deep as far as dependable players. And that is with out superstars at every position of the starting lineup.
I'm not making excuse for the bench. I agree, I would like the to be better. But given the Lakers have no money after spending on the top 6. What TALENT are you gonna find for the pay checks the bench get?
Who wants to trade quality low pay check players for any of our bench?
Now I know, some of you will shout bloody murder about Luke's paycheck. Luke aside, the bench is not paid much.
I guess I'm saying... This is the bench the Lakers have, they won with it last year, and they can win with it again. Get Lamar back as 6th man to lead them and it will be good.
I'd like to point out a positive about the bench.
Josh Powell is playing well. If he keeps getting minutes, he could become this years Trevor Ariza. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 01:45 PM PST
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Josh Powelle is blah, he wont be the next TREVOR
Jordan is meh
Sasha isnt really good at anything
Brown is good, but not much of a ball handler, but he'll get there
Luke is a good facilitator and a veteran
DJ Mbenga is hilarious with his crooked neck and pointy ears
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 01:53 PM PST
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You guys keep saying let the team be at full strength before judging. However we can place Pau, Artest, Lamar or whoever with our bench and it changes nothing and this is why.
Farmar: A absolute waste, he has gone down since his decent second season. He dribbles with no idea of what to do, he is color blind and aways throws the ball to the wrong jersey color. This guy can't play a lick of defense, he can't even beat out a 35 year old point guard with limited vision and a slowing body.
Sasha: As one dimensional as they come. Sasha will not ever be useful until he's able to play with some players who will command a double team, simple as that. This season and last Sasha rarely gets to play with Kobe, the only person who truly gets double-teamed. Sashas will always be a bad sub as long as he has to play with players who don't space, can't drive and can't command a double.
Shannon: He has flashes of brilliance, but he's inconsistent and maybe it'd due to Phil's rotation, I say sit Farmar completely.
Josh Powell: He looks pretty good this year so far, but his constant fouling is a source of my frustration. He is there strictly to space the floor, and get boards.
MBenga: Shot blocker and seems to have a decent jumpshot.
Luke: He's a post player and ball mover, nothing else really in my opinion. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 06:10 PM PST
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A zombie Squad? A Group of Wildest beasts running ready to eat their enemies? Are You sure?
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 07:07 PM PST
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 09:13 PM PST
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Hollywood_Randy wrote:
I agree that it's not totally fair to judge with out Pau playing.
Lamar changes the bench quite a bit. I think it shows because they look like a squad with no identity, with out their leader.
Granted, they are not the best bench, nor have they ever been.
But, in reality what team has the mass of talent in their starting 5, and sixth man that the Lakers have? Furthermore, most teams only go about 7 players deep as far as dependable players. And that is with out superstars at every position of the starting lineup.
I'm not making excuse for the bench. I agree, I would like the to be better. But given the Lakers have no money after spending on the top 6. What TALENT are you gonna find for the pay checks the bench get?
Who wants to trade quality low pay check players for any of our bench?
Now I know, some of you will shout bloody murder about Luke's paycheck. Luke aside, the bench is not paid much.
I guess I'm saying... This is the bench the Lakers have, they won with it last year, and they can win with it again. Get Lamar back as 6th man to lead them and it will be good.
I'd like to point out a positive about the bench.
Josh Powell is playing well. If he keeps getting minutes, he could become this years Trevor Ariza.
You forgot about Morrison and his $5 mil /yr. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 09:54 PM PST
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Los Angeles Lakers Statistics - 2009-10
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/stats?team=lal
Our bench is horrible.
I understand that when Pau comes back Lamar will help out the bench, BUT we need to sign a veteran guard that can consistently help the bench since our guards are not playing to our satisfaction. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 11:21 PM PST
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As much as it pains me to say it, I think PJ needs to give significant minutes to Sasha and Farmar, either to find out if they can truly integrate onto the team or to showcase them as trade bait. Might cost us a few games, but their could be a payoff in terms of either developing a viable pine rider or finally realize they need to be dangled to some sucker.
As it stands right now, we have little more than dead-weight riding pine. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 11:24 PM PST
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By the way, Cuckoo, look for a lawsuit coming your way soon. You can't disparage zombies like that and expect to get away with it.  |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2009 - 03:41 AM PST
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One guard has to get benched. If appears that Phil is splitting 15 minutes between two guards, while one guard gets the full 15. There's no chemistry to be found when you play 7-9 minutes of on/off court basketball.
Sasha is the only guard who has not played a full 15 minutes off the bench. This could mean that
A. Phil has given up on Sasha and will eventually bench him in favor of Farmar.
B. He's giving Farmar one last shot at redemption before he gets shipped out.
Notes from last season, when Shannon Brown eventually earned significant minutes off the bench, it was Farmar who fell off the map. In that same span, Sasha's FG% spiked from dreadful to mediocre. Go figure. |
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Post subject: Re: The Zombie Chronicles: Adventures Of A Non-existant Ben
Posted: Nov 06, 2009 - 04:01 AM PST
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cuckooroller wrote:
In a now well-established Laker tradition, let's take the latest snapshot of the performance of the Laker Undead.
Game 5: (at Houston)
Zombie Squad: 16 piddling points; +/- = - 6
Houston Reserves: 28 points
Let's all give them a collective accolade, which in their case can only be demonstrated by intoning a smelly, collective fart...
Even as Zombies, these guys are a laughing stock.
We all owe a debt of gratitude to the Laker FO for their humanitarian and politically correct decision to employ those less fortunate than those still living. The FO is a shining light showing us the way to greater tolerance, and right thinking! After all, we must not discriminate on the superficial basis, as other franchises do, of their players being capable of playing basketball.
OKAY MAN, i am tired of ur negativity bro lol come on man relax we are missing gasol.....i just to think the way u did about the bench but then i realize that if the bench has no odom,or bynum or gasol like it usuallly is then they are not the same strong bench as b4.....REMEMBER last year when bynum got hurt and odom took the pf starting job
TELL ME, DID THE BENCH PLAYED WELL? NO NO NO so relax its ok man, we will do fine when we get them back....we are so deep with gasol, he can play pf and center and thats wat makes us tthe championship team we are......
also, i dont mine losing games anymore if our players are playing that minute minutes and getting hurt and warned down!!!!!!!!!!!! phil knows it too but doesnt want to lose a game cause we just got artest and he wants to have them bond with each other in the gamesituations...
i say, let kobe play 35minutes and same with all the starters and thats it...put the bench in a test
if they F up quick\......THEN PHIL CALL A TIMEOUT AND TEACH THEM AND CALM THEM DOWN |
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Post subject: RE: Re: The Zombie Chronicles: Adventures Of A Non-existant
Posted: Nov 06, 2009 - 04:13 AM PST
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Someone here told me the regular season is only ten games long; I guess we are in real trouble, just like all you guys say.
Wait....hold on...I just got a text! It says the season is 82 games. What a relief! Nothing to worry about!
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Post subject: RE: Re: The Zombie Chronicles: Adventures Of A Non-existant
Posted: Nov 06, 2009 - 04:26 AM PST
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Omark,
I have always taken the long view on our bench, last year, and this year. I have always viewed our bench's weakness with one thing uppermost in mind, that is, that with this weak of a bench our Starters will always be forced to overwork. This means that we will arrive to the post-season with the team running on fumes, and with absolutely no confidence that the bench can give them needed rest minutes. This also means that we will have important players that are constantly tired, and everyone knows that it is more likely to have injuries when exhaustion sets in.
My principal problem, last year, as this, is our totally deficitary coverage at reserve guard. I have some hope for Brown, but those other two jerks are not worthy of being on this team. I hope the Laker FO sees this, and takes steps to shore up our reserve guard component. Last year, we won with no bench. This does not mean that the same thing will happen this year. I will continue to view our bench negatively until one of two things happens, either they start playing like they deserve to be in the NBA, or the Laker FO finally has the scales fall from their eyes and gets rid of a couple of these unworthy jokes, and gives real hope of rest to our starters. The Lakers are paying roughly the equivalent of $ 24 Million/year for these reserves. I want to see that they are worth at least a fraction of this money because from what we saw last year, and see even more this year, they are just not worth their salt. |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2009 - 05:04 AM PST
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I think it's not only bench's guys fault. Coach have also a part. When you have a rotation of 6 guys playing around 30' or so (DFish, Kobe, Artest, Pau Drew, Odom), and you try not to make mixtures with the other guys, you're making the 2nd unit feel like that, like the "garbage-time" unit. So, when you need them for big-time minutes, they use to crash.
And, of course, we don´t have enough talent coming from the bench. I think Brown is what we've already seen, Powell could be an improvement, but with Pau, Lamar and even Artest he will have limited minutes, Walton is what he is, Vujacic is just thinking about girls and houses, Mbenga is going to have more playing time...in the Playstation, and finally Farmar needs to play as starter for 20 games to be sure about him. A. Morrison could be useful if Kobe, Artest, Lamar & Walton got injured at the same time.
NBA has the salary's cap for something. If you want to pay, ok, it doesn´t matter, pay a ton of money in taxes. If you don´t, you still will have a great starter five, with a bunch of warmers coming from the bench. Good 6th men are a luxury, don´t forget Odom. They're overpaid, and happy to be there, to play 8' per night, make a couple of shots, and get another ring 'till the end of the season.
Hopefully, when Pau was back on the starter rotation, we can make better starter/2n unit mixtures. |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2009 - 12:22 PM PST
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flixos wrote:
I think it's not only bench's guys fault. Coach have also a part. When you have a rotation of 6 guys playing around 30' or so (DFish, Kobe, Artest, Pau Drew, Odom), and you try not to make mixtures with the other guys, you're making the 2nd unit feel like that, like the "garbage-time" unit. So, when you need them for big-time minutes, they use to crash.
And, of course, we don´t have enough talent coming from the bench. I think Brown is what we've already seen, Powell could be an improvement, but with Pau, Lamar and even Artest he will have limited minutes, Walton is what he is, Vujacic is just thinking about girls and houses, Mbenga is going to have more playing time...in the Playstation, and finally Farmar needs to play as starter for 20 games to be sure about him. A. Morrison could be useful if Kobe, Artest, Lamar & Walton got injured at the same time.
NBA has the salary's cap for something. If you want to pay, ok, it doesn´t matter, pay a ton of money in taxes. If you don´t, you still will have a great starter five, with a bunch of warmers coming from the bench. Good 6th men are a luxury, don´t forget Odom. They're overpaid, and happy to be there, to play 8' per night, make a couple of shots, and get another ring 'till the end of the season.
Hopefully, when Pau was back on the starter rotation, we can make better starter/2n unit mixtures.
I totally agree with you there. Phil is playing the bench guys all sporadic minutes and basically asking them to be productive even though then never get any time to find some rhythm with the team. All that accomplishes is losing leads with has already happened this season. Phil really needs to start tightening the rotation, especially at the guard positions. One of the three between Brown, Farmar, and Sasha are going to need to become a permanent fixture on the bench so that the other two guys can get more regular playing time and thus get some more rhythm out there. Having Brown, Farmar, and Sasha splitting basically 35 minutes between them(assuming Kobe plays around 35mpg and Fish plays around 26mpg) is not going to work. Having 2 of those guys get 15-20 minutes is going to do a lot to help improve their play and raise their confidence rather than have a couple guys play 12-14 min and one play 7. That's not enough for any of those guys to get comfortable out there. Just look at Sasha's play over the last 3 years. When he was the 'Machine' he was regularly getting 21mpg. Look at his Jan thru April numbers in 2008, they're great, 10ppg, 45% 3pt and 47% fg. He had regular playing time, knew when he was going to be playing in the game, so he could be in the right mind set. Last year he fell off because of Ariza's emergence, he was getting sporadic time, never could find rhythm, and looked terrible. It's more of the same this year too. Jordans more of the same too. When he played well 2 years ago(even pre knee injury last year) he was getting regular playing time of 20mpg and was a very solid contributor with about 9-10ppg. At this point I really don't care who PJ picks to get the playing time, he just needs to do it already so the players affected can settle down and not have to worry when they are going to play and if they are going to get yanked in favor of someone else looking the prove themselves.
Whats really interesting is the teams per 48min stats. It's actually pretty surprising about who is making the most of their time
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Posted: Nov 06, 2009 - 03:25 PM PST
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| I think Phil should replace Farmar and Sasha with qualified players from the D League. They couldn't play much worse. In fact, they run the triangle on the Defenders so give Gaffney and some other dude a chance. It's obvious the pressure is too much for Farmar and Sasha to dig out of. |
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I was also wondering why anyone would insult zombies by comparing them to our bench, but MagnificentBastard has already pointed that out. Ha!
I think what bothers me most is the regression that this crew continues to take. Yes, we see improvement in Shannon Brown at times and Luke really does contribute to the best of his ability, but the other guys who have been with the Lakers for quite some time now just seem to get more and more comfortable with just being here as opposed to contributing at a high level. That's an approach that we cannot have. I wonder if we need to stop making excuses for them. No matter who is on the floor they can go out there and bust their butts to bring something.. anything positive. I have no doubt there are a lot of players out there who would love to be in a Lakers uniform in their place. |
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| Tonight we're going to see if they can contribute against a lowly Grizzly team. Let's see if they can make even the slightest impression on us to see if they are worthy of wearing the Purple and gold. |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2009 - 02:31 AM PST
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Tonight the Laker FO went out and spent millions of dollars for a temporary one-night antidote for Tetrodotoxin! We saw signs that on a game-by-game basis, for three or four hours, that it is possible to reanimate some of our bench players from their normal state of perennial zombification!
So, good job Zombie Squad, for tonight not Zombie. However, the antidote is too expensive to be used often. They are doubtless already again in their normal state of total Zombie. |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2009 - 03:19 AM PST
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^ ROFL.
Luke Walton needed to shoot less, as far as I'm concerned he was still a zombie, antidote or no antidote.
Whenever Sasha shoots, his body position will tell you whether it's a brick or swish. If he's on the run and shoots while his momentum carries his entire body forward, its a brick. When he balances his center of gravity, the shot is a swish.
He should have shot more. But it's no surprise that he couldn't, because Farmar cannot see wide open shooters. For some reason, when a player is wide open or "in position", Farmar completely loses sight of them. He only sees awkwardly positioned players or players engulfed by a double team. |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2009 - 12:48 PM PST
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cuckooroller wrote:
Tonight the Laker FO went out and spent millions of dollars for a temporary one-night antidote for Tetrodotoxin! We saw signs that on a game-by-game basis, for three or four hours, that it is possible to reanimate some of our bench players from their normal state of perennial zombification!
So, good job Zombie Squad, for tonight not Zombie. However, the antidote is too expensive to be used often. They are doubtless already again in their normal state of total Zombie.
Steve,
The next 3 games are against the Hornets, Suns, and Denver. I expect to see the bench playing in their normal inept maner as opposed to the way that they played against the 1 and 6 Grizly cubs. One game is not enough to convince me that the bench should not be playing in the D-League. |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 02:12 AM PST
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I have been walking around for the last three games pinching myself, and disbelieving my own eyes. Our bench was actually playing good enough to at least break even against their counterparts.
Well, last night the shoe dropped! They're back! The Zombie Squad obviously jumped into a huge vat of Tetrodotoxin before this game! They unleashed a demonstration of epic zombesque proportions last night...
When we needed them to step up, well, the numbers tell the story about this game.
Denver Reserves = +22
Zombie Squad = - 50, no, this is not a typo!
The equivalent of a score swing of 72 points!
What a ridiculous "bench", and my apologies to the word "bench" for using it in such a cavalier and loose manner!
Not that any team that can manage to score a giggling little girl-like 8 points in a quarter deserves to win, but, the bench is supposed to be there to pick it up when the starters are off. In this case, instead of the bench going in with fire extinguishers, they went on the parquet with pails of kerosene!
Püssies!
I hope the entire team inspected their bodies closely during the post-debacle shower just to make sure that they still possessed their sacks! |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 02:28 AM PST
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I hate to be a buzz kill, but the correct formula would be -50 + 22. It was a -28 point swing, and the Lakers lost by 26. The whole team played bad.
I blame the Nuggets fans. Are they insane? What are they thinking supporting ALL their players and cheering as if winning games was an amenity that supported the life and well-being to their fandom! They should be fickle and nonchalant, and complain that JR Smith missed too many shots and that they were lucky to get away with this win! Where are the trade demands? Where is the whipping boy? Nonexistent.
These Nugget fans are not true fans. Their deafening cheers and well-orchestrated waves of delightful screaming shows weakness. |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 02:41 AM PST
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PlzOPH3T wrote:
I hate to be a buzz kill, but the correct formula would be -50 + 22. It was a -28 point swing, and the Lakers lost by 26. The whole team played bad.
I blame the Nuggets fans. Are they insane? What are they thinking supporting ALL their players and cheering as if winning games was an amenity that supported the life and well-being to their fandom! They should be fickle and nonchalant, and complain that JR Smith missed too many shots and that they were lucky to get away with this win! Where are the trade demands? Where is the whipping boy? Nonexistent.
These Nugget fans are not true fans. Their deafening cheers and well-orchestrated waves of delightful screaming shows weakness.
I know. I know. Sometimes I just like to pretend to be dumb, just because it looks worse! The fact remains that we would have won on the play of our Starters by 3 points, and instead lost by 25! Had the Zombies played even, we would have won. |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 03:19 AM PST
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cuckooroller wrote:
PlzOPH3T wrote:
I hate to be a buzz kill, but the correct formula would be -50 + 22. It was a -28 point swing, and the Lakers lost by 26. The whole team played bad.
I blame the Nuggets fans. Are they insane? What are they thinking supporting ALL their players and cheering as if winning games was an amenity that supported the life and well-being to their fandom! They should be fickle and nonchalant, and complain that JR Smith missed too many shots and that they were lucky to get away with this win! Where are the trade demands? Where is the whipping boy? Nonexistent.
These Nugget fans are not true fans. Their deafening cheers and well-orchestrated waves of delightful screaming shows weakness.
I know. I know. Sometimes I just like to pretend to be dumb, just because it looks worse! The fact remains that we would have won on the play of our Starters by 3 points, and instead lost by 25! Had the Zombies played even, we would have won.
The defense and ball denial of the Denver front line was impeccable. Guards were forced to take late contested shots cus the plays went bust. To top it off, Odom and Artest did not provide the barricade we needed up front because of foul trouble.
Yeah the bench is rancid. But we definitely cannot battle Denver's bigs armed with Powell and Mbenga! |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 06:21 PM PST
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cuckooroller wrote:
PlzOPH3T wrote:
I hate to be a buzz kill, but the correct formula would be -50 + 22. It was a -28 point swing, and the Lakers lost by 26. The whole team played bad.
I blame the Nuggets fans. Are they insane? What are they thinking supporting ALL their players and cheering as if winning games was an amenity that supported the life and well-being to their fandom! They should be fickle and nonchalant, and complain that JR Smith missed too many shots and that they were lucky to get away with this win! Where are the trade demands? Where is the whipping boy? Nonexistent.
These Nugget fans are not true fans. Their deafening cheers and well-orchestrated waves of delightful screaming shows weakness.
I know. I know. Sometimes I just like to pretend to be dumb, just because it looks worse! The fact remains that we would have won on the play of our Starters by 3 points, and instead lost by 25! Had the Zombies played even, we would have won.
Steve,
Getting in at 4:00 am and playing a back to back had a lot to do with the way they played in my opinion. At the end of the 3rd qtr. it seemed to me that PJ threw in the towel and I did not blame PJ. I threw in the towel too, |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 - 03:24 AM PST
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One must start wondering at what point the Laker FO might start to second guess themselves for their obviously laudable insistance in employing rotting corpses as their second team.
Our Starters, still not shining, had given us an overall +20 points over the opposing Starters. Then, in a tried but true manner, another misplaced vote of confidence was given to our so-called bench, now known infamously as the Zombie Squad.
Their performance:
Rockettes Reserves: 48 points, +/- = + 41
Zombie Squad: 18 points, +/- = - 23
add them up, divide by 2 and this tells the whole story of the game, they frittered away, again, the Starters point surplus, and lost by 10 points.
Beyond all the half-hearted recrimination, the Laker FO has to face the stark facts, and that is that we do not have a bench worthy of even being mentioned in the same sentence as NBA! These guys would lose to an elementary school girls team of volleyball players having never played basketball in their lives!
Zombie Squad, I don't know that your auditory mechanisms are still integral enough in view of post-mortem changes before you all resuscitated from your respective tombs, but if you can still hear, then, KISS MY ĂSS! |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 - 04:10 AM PST
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Farmar has value, as either a good backup pg or trade bait. Sasha is as useless as a ninety year old at a disco. I pray Mitch can do a Vlad Rad and swindle some gem from another team. We have to hope that Sasha gets hot for a few games which will show off his potential, then "ship his a** out." I am sick of him coming in at key moments, like tonight when we were about nine points down, and mis-firing us out of contention.
Powell is about as solid a role player you can get under the salary cap rules. And MBenga is good for entertainment value with an occasional teaser game thrown in.
Bottom line: I would rather have Sun Yue any day of the week than Sasha. |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 - 12:51 PM PST
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| Houston bench > Lakers bench..... |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 - 01:11 PM PST
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| 60/38 rebounds from a midget team. Thats rediculous. Allowing Brooks 33 points, Fish could not guard him. |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 - 01:56 PM PST
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BaadMaster wrote:
Farmar has value, as either a good backup pg or trade bait. Sasha is as useless as a ninety year old at a disco. I pray Mitch can do a Vlad Rad and swindle some gem from another team. We have to hope that Sasha gets hot for a few games which will show off his potential, then "ship his a** out." I am sick of him coming in at key moments, like tonight when we were about nine points down, and mis-firing us out of contention.
I agree with those sentiments....
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 - 03:10 PM PST
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spankees wrote:
BaadMaster wrote:
Farmar has value, as either a good backup pg or trade bait. Sasha is as useless as a ninety year old at a disco. I pray Mitch can do a Vlad Rad and swindle some gem from another team. We have to hope that Sasha gets hot for a few games which will show off his potential, then "ship his a** out." I am sick of him coming in at key moments, like tonight when we were about nine points down, and mis-firing us out of contention.
I agree with those sentiments....
yup... farmar is whatever and his contract expires after this season. sasha and/or morrison needs to go. i dunno who is gunna take sasha though, haha. |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2009 - 06:11 PM PST
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jc89 wrote:
spankees wrote:
BaadMaster wrote:
Farmar has value, as either a good backup pg or trade bait. Sasha is as useless as a ninety year old at a disco. I pray Mitch can do a Vlad Rad and swindle some gem from another team. We have to hope that Sasha gets hot for a few games which will show off his potential, then "ship his a** out." I am sick of him coming in at key moments, like tonight when we were about nine points down, and mis-firing us out of contention.
I agree with those sentiments....
yup... farmar is whatever and his contract expires after this season. sasha and/or morrison needs to go. i dunno who is gunna take sasha though, haha.
Maybe Sasha can be traded for Venus Williams so he can go play tennis with the girls and still get his butt kicked! Oh yeah, then he can get whipped by his girlfriend too! |
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Posted: Nov 18, 2009 - 03:46 AM PST
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Well, how did our fair-haired little hen biddies do last night?
Against Detroit.
The Pissed Ons Reserves: +/- = +8 and a totally dominating 52 points!
Zombie Squad: +/- = - 10, and a piddling 30 points.
We really got an eyeful of the powerfully, mind-boggling total domination that our wimps can instill in the quaking hearts of our opponent. Our Starters spotted them a 28 point lead, and with our fantastically gifted warriors on the floor, Powell, Mbenga, Hot Dog Hero (boy can he chuck up the prayers never answered!), Brick Layer, and Brown, well, they did real well, for them I mean, they managed to keep the other team from coming back too much! With all their battling skills they limited the counterparts (mostly reserves) to coming back from 28 points to a measly 7 points!
Good job, zombies! Zombies, please place a well-aimed kiss on the collective butts of all Laker fans, you wusses! |
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Posted: Nov 18, 2009 - 11:34 AM PST
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I hate to be a buzz kill, but the correct formula would be -50 + 22. It was a -28 point swing, and the Lakers lost by 26. The whole team played bad.
I blame the Nuggets fans. Are they insane? What are they thinking supporting ALL their players and cheering as if winning games was an amenity that supported the life and well-being to their fandom! They should be fickle and nonchalant, and complain that JR Smith missed too many shots and that they were lucky to get away with this win! Where are the trade demands? Where is the whipping boy? Nonexistent.
These Nugget fans are not true fans. Their deafening cheers and well-orchestrated waves of delightful screaming shows weakness.
this math is incorrect, but it is impossible to properly calculate because teams usually leave at least one starter in if it was lakers bench against denver starters and denver bench against laker starters, it would in fact be a 72 point swing, these numbers cannot be bench against bench because then the numbers would be the same i.e. +50 -50, now if there are starters on the floor, it is very difficult to calculate how bad the bench played
if kobe lamar drew fish and say vujacic were on the floor and vujacic gets like -5 thats more of a starting lineup problem than a bench problem |
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Posted: Nov 18, 2009 - 11:35 AM PST
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cuckooroller wrote:
Well, how did our fair-haired little hen biddies do last night?
Against Detroit.
The Pissed Ons Reserves: +/- = +8 and a totally dominating 52 points!
Zombie Squad: +/- = - 10, and a piddling 30 points.
We really got an eyeful of the powerfully, mind-boggling total domination that our wimps can instill in the quaking hearts of our opponent. Our Starters spotted them a 28 point lead, and with our fantastically gifted warriors on the floor, Powell, Mbenga, Hot Dog Hero (boy can he chuck up the prayers never answered!), Brick Layer, and Brown, well, they did real well, for them I mean, they managed to keep the other team from coming back too much! With all their battling skills they limited the counterparts (mostly reserves) to coming back from 28 points to a measly 7 points!
Good job, zombies! Zombies, please place a well-aimed kiss on the collective butts of all Laker fans, you wusses!
I don't understand how Phil can even trust these guys anymore. He still insists on putting in the combo of Farmar AND Sasha on the court at the same time. We all know that just does not work and it turns the Lakers into Barnum and Baily Circus with all the tumbling, bumbling, and fumbling they do as clowns on the court. I swear, if I see Sasha in a Laker uniform after his contract is up, I will personally write the front office and picket outside their practice facility in disgust! |
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