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Post subject: Lakers-Rockets Preview
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 01:44 AM PST
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Ron Artest(notes) left the Houston Rockets to sign with a Los Angeles Lakers team he felt gave him the best chance to finally win a ring.
Houston, though, is now playing at a high level without Artest and two other superstars - and with former Laker Trevor Ariza(notes).
Artest returns to the Toyota Center on Wednesday night, when Los Angeles faces the Rockets for the first time since the teams’ seven-game series in last season’s Western Conference semifinals.
Acquired in a trade with Sacramento prior to 2008-09, Artest averaged 17.1 points and 5.2 rebounds as the Rockets went 53-29 and advanced to the second round of the playoffs for the first time in 12 seasons.
Houston won Game 1 of the West semifinals in Los Angeles, but fell to the Lakers in seven.
“I thought it was a good learning experience for these guys,” Artest said following the Rockets’ 89-70 Game 7 defeat at Staples Center on May 17. “They’ve been through a Game 7. Most young teams get swept. That will really help the Rockets in the future.”
Artest, though, ultimately decided not to be a part of that future by signing a five-year, $33 million deal with the defending champion Lakers.
“This was a long time coming,” he said. “As I started to compete against the Lakers and against Kobe (Bryant), I had respect for him and I always wanted to be a teammate of his.”
Playing their first road game of the season Tuesday, the Lakers (3-1) defeated Oklahoma City 101-98 in overtime.
Artest scored a season-high 20 points, while Andrew Bynum(notes) posted his third double-double of the season with 22 and 10 boards. The star of the night, though, was Bryant, who had 31 points while battling flulike symptoms. The Lakers’ star hit the go-ahead jumper in overtime and a pair of free throws with 18 seconds remaining.
“When Kobe’s out there, he wants it,” Artest said. “That’s the great thing. He wants it. It’s not like I have to really go get it.”
Bryant averaged 28.3 points on 53.0 percent shooting as Los Angeles won all four regular-season matchups versus Houston in 2008-09.
Ariza, who scored 11.3 points per game and shot 47.6 percent from 3-point range during the Lakers’ 2008-09 playoff run, signed with Rockets in the offseason to help minimize the loss of Artest.
“I think (Houston is) the best place for me,” Ariza said over the summer. “I think I have more of an opportunity here.”
He’s making the most of that opportunity thus far, averaging a team-high 21.3 points.
Playing without Artest, Yao Ming(notes) - out for the season following foot surgery - and Tracy McGrady(notes) (microsurgery on left knee), the Rockets have won three straight since a 96-87 season-opening loss at Portland.
“When you lose your star players, people don’t expect very much from you but we’ve had the attitude that we’re going to play hard, compete and we’re going to see what we can do with this group,” coach Rick Adelman told the Rockets’ official Web site.
Adelman has started 6-foot-6 Chuck Hayes(notes) at center each game, but the undersized Rockets have compensated by shooting 44.8 percent from 3-point range.
“We have good shooters on this team, so we’re going to be really aggressive,” said Shane Battier(notes), who hit three of the Rockets’ 10 3-pointers in Monday’s 113-96 victory at Utah.
Ariza, Aaron Brooks(notes) and Chase Budinger(notes) each hit two from long range, and Budinger finished with a career-high 17 points.
The rookie also rolled his ankle in Monday’s victory, but is expected to be available Wednesday.
Lakers forward Pau Gasol(notes) worked out prior to Tuesday’s game, but has still not played this season due to a strained right hamstring.
Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/preview?gid ... mp;prov=ap |
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Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 01:59 AM PST
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Rockets-Lakers rematch not a mismatch
Six months ago today, the Rockets began a playoff series against the Los Angeles Lakers.
Back when the Rockets were an All-Star driven team with the best big man in the game.
Tonight, the teams will tip it off at Toyota Center with that back-in-the-day matchup an almost distant memory.
From end to beginning, we're talking only 12 Rockets games. Time flies when one team wins a series, then the NBA championship, while the other loses the series and its best player for the next season.
Plus, the winning team traded (technically) one of its perceived spare parts for one of the victor's key parts. Worse, the only other player in the latter's best-of discussion was out for that series and has yet to return.
One would think the ring-winning Lakers and the ringless-for-a-decade-and-a- half Rockets are headed in opposite directions.
But while the two teams were almost certainly not as close in talent as indicated by the length of the seven-game series (the four Lakers wins were by an average of 21.5 points), there is little evidence thus far to prove the notion that the poor, undersized, star-free Rockets don't belong on the floor with the championship-contending Lakers.
No Yao Ming (injured), no Tracy McGrady (injured) and no Ron Artest (discarded). No championship dreams?
Not realistically, but these Rockets aren't going to just go through the motions.
So far, so good
Had the Rockets entered tonight's game with a 1-3 record — without a three-game win streak, including victories over Portland and at Utah — there would be no reason for the newly named Red Nation to panic.
But the marathon-sprint reality shouldn't stop Rockets fans from being excited that their squad has the same 3-1 record as the champions.
The Rockets started 3-0 last year before facing the defending NBA champion at home. They lost to the Celtics. A win over the Lakers probably won't mean a thing next spring, but taking out the Jazz and the Lakers in consecutive games is one heck of a way to start November.
Don't call it overachieving.
Even if you ignore the “we play harder than other teams” sales pitch — when they lose five or six games in a row will they give you your money back for not playing hard? — there is plenty of talent on this team.
The Rockets' best three players this season are not as good as the top three of any of the believed-to-be best in the West or East. Heck, comparing the Rockets' Big Three of a year ago — Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady and Ron Artest — to this year's lead trio is laughable.
But these Rockets are not rolling out D-League quality or a should-be-retired player at any position.
No apologies necessary
General managers around the league would love to get their hands on the talent Daryl Morey has put together. Better overall teams than the Rockets have players on the roster who don't belong in the league.
Morey has put together a squad that doesn't leave you asking, “Why is he in the league?” (Hey, leave Brian Cook alone. He scored 28 points in an NBA game, have you?)
There was a reason I didn't list the Rockets' best three players. Depends on the game. (Not to mention, the NBA doesn't play 3-on-3.)
Aaron Brooks, the guy the Lakers most fear, Luis Scola, the guy the Lakers most wish they had, and Trevor Ariza, the Lakers' spare part, might prove to be the trio.
But Chuck Hayes, Shane Battier and Carl Landry will be in and out of that group .
No need to talk about what might happen if McGrady returns from knee surgery or concern yourself with whether Morey will pull off some sweet trade-deadline move. This team can contend for the playoffs as constructed. Why worry about what needs to happen for a postseason run now?
The Rockets are taking it day-by-day; you might as well, too.
Beat L.A.? Yes they can.
(Oh man, it's the first week of November and we're already throwing out playoff chants.)
Link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/spo ... 01927.html |
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There's no "i" in team, but there is in win.
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Post subject: LA Lakers @ Houston Rockets Game Thread | Nov. 4th, 2009
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 02:03 AM PST
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5:30 PM PT, November 4, 2009
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Ron Artest left the Houston Rockets to sign with a Los Angeles Lakers team he felt gave him the best chance to finally win a ring.
Houston, though, is now playing at a high level without Artest and two other superstars -- and with former Laker Trevor Ariza.
Artest returns to the Toyota Center on Wednesday night, when Los Angeles faces the Rockets for the first time since the teams' seven-game series in last season's Western Conference semifinals.
Acquired in a trade with Sacramento prior to 2008-09, Artest averaged 17.1 points and 5.2 rebounds as the Rockets went 53-29 and advanced to the second round of the playoffs for the first time in 12 seasons.
Houston won Game 1 of the West semifinals in Los Angeles, but fell to the Lakers in seven.
"I thought it was a good learning experience for these guys," Artest said following the Rockets' 89-70 Game 7 defeat at Staples Center on May 17. "They've been through a Game 7. Most young teams get swept. That will really help the Rockets in the future."
Artest, though, ultimately decided not to be a part of that future by signing a five-year, $33 million deal with the defending champion Lakers.
"This was a long time coming," he said. "As I started to compete against the Lakers and against Kobe (Bryant), I had respect for him and I always wanted to be a teammate of his."
Playing their first road game of the season Tuesday, the Lakers (3-1) defeated Oklahoma City 101-98 in overtime.
Artest scored a season-high 20 points, while Andrew Bynum posted his third double-double of the season with 22 and 10 boards. The star of the night, though, was Bryant, who had 31 points while battling flulike symptoms. The Lakers' star hit the go-ahead jumper in overtime and a pair of free throws with 18 seconds remaining.
"When Kobe's out there, he wants it," Artest said. "That's the great thing. He wants it. It's not like I have to really go get it."
Bryant averaged 28.3 points on 53.0 percent shooting as Los Angeles won all four regular-season matchups versus Houston in 2008-09.
Ariza, who scored 11.3 points per game and shot 47.6 percent from 3-point range during the Lakers' 2008-09 playoff run, signed with Rockets in the offseason to help minimize the loss of Artest.
"I think (Houston is) the best place for me," Ariza said over the summer. "I think I have more of an opportunity here."
He's making the most of that opportunity thus far, averaging a team-high 21.3 points.
Playing without Artest, Yao Ming -- out for the season following foot surgery -- and Tracy McGrady (microsurgery on left knee), the Rockets have won three straight since a 96-87 season-opening loss at Portland.
"When you lose your star players, people don't expect very much from you but we've had the attitude that we're going to play hard, compete and we're going to see what we can do with this group," coach Rick Adelman told the Rockets' official Web site.
Adelman has started 6-foot-6 Chuck Hayes at center each game, but the undersized Rockets have compensated by shooting 44.8 percent from 3-point range.
"We have good shooters on this team, so we're going to be really aggressive," said Shane Battier, who hit three of the Rockets' 10 3-pointers in Monday's 113-96 victory at Utah.
Ariza, Aaron Brooks and Chase Budinger each hit two from long range, and Budinger finished with a career-high 17 points.
The rookie also rolled his ankle in Monday's victory, but is expected to be available Wednesday.
Lakers forward Pau Gasol worked out prior to Tuesday's game, but has still not played this season due to a strained right hamstring.
http://espn.go.com/nba/preview?gameId=291104010
PROBABLE SLs:
Derek Fisher
Kobe Bryant
Ron Artest
Lamar Odom
Andrew Bynum
Aaron Brooks
Trevor Ariza
Shane Battier
Luis Scola
Chuck Hayes
Man... its gonna suck seeing the guys we're used to seeing in purple jerseys, and Ariza with a red one on. John Ireland better catch up with him in an interview or something. I cant wait till he returns to Staples and make a ceremony for him!
Brooks is gonna be trouble again. I could feel it. The kid is just too quick.... |
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Post subject: RE: LA Lakers @ Houston Rockets Game Thread | Nov. 4th, 2009
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 02:06 AM PST
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| I wonder if we'll see Trevor guarding Kobe. That should be fun to watch if that happens. |
_________________ Chick Hearn will always be my favorite Laker. The Lakers are the champions, you don't have to like it, but you have to live with it.
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Post subject: RE: LA Lakers @ Houston Rockets Game Thread | Nov. 4th, 2009
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 02:15 AM PST
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| ^ He'll get his turns, but Battier will likely defend him the most considering these 2 guys have a history of battles. |
_________________ "I just wish more people would celebrate Kobe. I really do. We spend so much time trying to tear him apart and I think we're missing how great he is" - Doc Rivers
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Post subject: RE: LA Lakers @ Houston Rockets Game Thread | Nov. 4th, 2009
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 02:21 AM PST
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So it's 6v4? I'll take the Lakers!
If the Rockets show anywhere near the same intensity the Thunder did tonight, the Lakers will be chasing a large deficit in the 4th quarter. We know the Rockets want to avenge their playoff defeat. We know the Rockets play out of their minds.
The way the Lakers have been playing, its hard to bet against these Rockets. Especially with no Gasol. What happens when Bynum gets into foul trouble?(Very Likely)
I want the Lakers to win badly and Kobe get his stroke back, but Houston is looking real good at Home vs The Lakers, who are playing back to back. |
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Post subject: RE: LA Lakers @ Houston Rockets Game Thread | Nov. 4th, 2009
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 02:40 AM PST
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| I tend to Houston on this one. They have a bench, we don't. They play defense, we don't. They play to their potential, we don't. So far, and I do not care about us being 3-1, we stink! |
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Post subject: RE: LA Lakers @ Houston Rockets Game Thread | Nov. 4th, 2009
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 03:26 AM PST
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I love the Lakers.. so why do I feel that we are in for a major azzwhuppin in Houston? Can't shake it though. It will be an emotional game for Houston, their fans and Trevor.
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Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 03:35 AM PST
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As a Lakers' fan, i want them to win every season and PO's game. But, right now, i think Houston looks more like they want, and we just look shorthanded. We have Kobe (maybe) with flu, Pau is out (PJax looked very happy about Pau's workout before last game, but i don´t think he'll play again till they really know what he gets in that leg), so we have to play with the starters all night long, and we have to fight every sigle play. Houston loves to do that, and those are bad news for us.
Artest vs Ariza?. Interesting. We need to win those matchups (Kobe & Artest vs Ariza & Battier) if we want to have a chance to win this game. Plus, DFish will need to buy a motorbike to follow Brooks on the court, and Drew & Lamar need to be out of PF's trouble as much as they can. As you see, too many things needed.
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Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 03:44 AM PST
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| i have confidence we'll win. a lot of you are talking about revenge from the rockets and ariza but lets not forget that artest feels the same way too. look for kobe and the rest to be real aggressive with ron by giving him a lot of shots. im sure artest is going to play very well for this game |
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Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 05:53 AM PST
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| this willl be an interesting match.. LAKERS, but i know we might struggle on this match but WTH, we have kobe.. whats got to worry.. LOL |
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Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 06:21 AM PST
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emotional game Ariza against the Lakers.. Ariza was one of my favorite players last year and I hate to see him play against us. BUT!! we need the W so im sorry Trev  |
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Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 07:14 AM PST
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| On paper, this should be a no brainer for a 7ft Bynum to dominate against a 6' 6 "center" in Hayes. I've always been a little skeptical about Bynum so we'll see if he's the real deal or not. Battier guarding Kobe also worries me as Kobe has not fared too well in recent times against him. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: LA Lakers @ Houston Rockets Game Thread | Nov. 4th,
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 07:27 AM PST
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cuckooroller wrote:
I tend to Houston on this one. They have a bench, we don't. They play defense, we don't. They play to their potential, we don't. So far, and I do not care about us being 3-1, we stink!
That about says it all.
But, remember, Phil coached Lakers teams invariably....
1) Play to the level of their competition in the regular season
2) Gear their play curve (when they max out) to the playoffs
3) Try to win with the least expenditure of energy in the regular season
4) Use the regular season as a living laboratory to find out what will work best at playoff time
5) Never expend more than a 70% effort during the first part of the season, rising to 90% by season's end and then elevating to 110% during the playoffs
6) Have four rings to prove this approach works...
It started with Shaq (faux toe regular season injuries but MVP playoffs) and has continued to last year's Championship. The Bull's 72 win all-out season was something that PJax knows was peculiar to that team. It was not that the Bulls had more raw total talent...it was just that the Chi team was willing to go at full tilt for a whole season; the Shaq and post-Shaq era teams were not. Phil is not a HOF coach with ten rings out of luck. He knows what he can get out of a given team and alters his approach to that squad. These Lakers teams are basic goof-offs in the regular season who suck it up come playoff time. Phil knows this and coaches accordingly.
It is time for us to accept our Lakers for what they are -- jagoffs in the regular season and tigers in the playoffs.
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Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 01:07 PM PST
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Ariza, no added pressure against Lakers
Trevor Ariza shrugged his broad shoulders and tilted his head, silently declaring that he really did not know what to say. Minutes later, he shrugged again, and then again, this time smiling, almost apologetically for being unable to play along.
“I've done it before,” Ariza said of facing a former team, with the Rockets going against the Lakers tonight at Toyota Center for the first time since he left Los Angeles. “They're not my first former team.”
Ariza would have to possess the world's best poker face to have been pretending when he said he was not especially eager to take on the Lakers for the first time since they shared last season's championship run only to have contract talks almost immediately stall before the Lakers grabbed Ron Artest instead.
There might be a few extra feelings tonight, Ariza acknowledged. He will see friends and compete against former teammates. But when he said that the night will bring no special flood of emotions, he did not seem to be trying to convince anyone and certainly did not strain credibility.
“I look forward to playing every night,” Ariza said. “That is the team I just left, so I'm definitely looking forward to them coming to play. We want to win every night. I don't think there is anything extra to going against them. I'm not going to put any extra pressure on myself ... against them because they're the Lakers or that's the team I just came from. I want to win because we want to win every game.”
This was not Brett Favre protesting too much before facing the Packers or returning to Green Bay, a comparison that brought more laughter. For all of Ariza's well-chronicled intention to become more of a star with the Rockets than he could be with the Lakers, Orlando Magic or New York Knicks, or even at UCLA, his ego had not grown nearly enough to place himself in that company.
“I don't think I'm as big as Brett Favre or anything like that,” Ariza said. And when reminded that he and Favre have each won one championship, Ariza added, “He's great, though.”
Even the way his tenure in Los Angeles ended no longer seemed to bring added emotions. In September, he said he was “hurt” by the split with the Lakers. When he initially balked at a mid-level offer, he was told to test the market. The next day, the Lakers reached agreement with Artest.
“Fair is fair,” Ariza said two months later, before the start of his first training camp with the Rockets. “I helped your team win. I'm not asking for the bank. I'm not asking for the house and the farm. I need something fair. At first, I felt hurt. It's my home. I was a little upset. But you get over it.”
‘It's a new time'
That has since seemed to fade into a part of his past, no more significant than other steps along the way. Though he has remained in touch with former teammates, speaking with Pau Gasol, Luke Walton and Lamar Odom since the start of the season, he has not paid attention to how Artest has played in his former spot and does not care if they match up tonight.
“It is over,” Ariza said. “It's a new time, a new situation. I'm happy. There is nothing to be upset about. (Facing Artest tonight) is not what it's about. I hope he does well there. ... From what I've seen, he's a real cool dude.”
If anything, the returning Rockets might have more added feelings for a game against the Lakers. Having dispatched their past two first-round opponents, the Portland Trail Blazers and Utah Jazz, they move on to the team that eliminated them in a second-round playoff series last season.
Waiting on a ring
Ariza, however, has seemed to be too even-keeled to let emotions enter the equation.
“Trevor doesn't strike me as an overly emotional guy,” said Shane Battier, one of the few Rockets to have played against a former team. “I would be less inclined to worry about him in a game like that. He has really tried to assimilate himself with his team, with his city. He knows he's a Houston Rocket now. Although he has friends on that team and they have so many memories from the championship run last year, I think he'll be all right.
“For me, it was tough the first couple times we played Memphis. I'm an emotional person so it was an emotional thing for me.”
There is, however, a bit of unfinished business. The Lakers owe Ariza a ring. Typically, however, he is happy to wait until the game in Los Angeles on Nov. 15 to pick it up.
“I don't care,” he said. “It is mine, but whenever they want to give it to me, that's fine.”
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Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 01:13 PM PST
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Rockets' Budinger to miss tonight's game vs. Lakers
Rockets forward Chase Budinger will miss tonight’s game against the Los Angeles Lakers because of a sprained left ankle.
Tests on Tuesday were negative, but with Budinger still sore Monday morning, the decision was made to have Budinger sit out tonight’s game. He is day-to-day, with the Rockets hosting the Oklahoma City Thunder on Friday.
Budinger has played an average of 16 minutes per game, making half his shots (40 percent of his 3s) and averaging 9.3 points.
With Budinger out, the Rockets are short-handed off the bench at small forward. They often play point guards Kyle Lowry and Aaron Brooks together in the backcourt, allowing Shane Battier and Trevor Ariza to cover the minutes at small forward.
But against the Lakers, they likely will be hesitant to use Lowry as a two guard when the Lakers starters as the shooting guard and small forward, Kobe Bryant and Ron Artest, are on the floor. Rockets coach Rick Adelman said he might use Carl Landry as a small forward.
Link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/spo ... 02878.html |
_________________ Chick Hearn will always be my favorite Laker. The Lakers are the champions, you don't have to like it, but you have to live with it.
There's no "i" in team, but there is in win.
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Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 01:33 PM PST
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| Very excited about tonight's game, trev has been my favorite laker and we definitely won some close games with him. I think about it this way, with trevor, we win cliffhanger games by means of his quickness and steals, with ron ron we win cliffhanger games with his tenacious d and shutting down the opposing teams best player. So the lakers are still good if not better. Ron can match up with the lebrons and melos of the league so thats just a plus plus for us. |
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Lakers' Ron Artest Returns to Houston
There are 10 games on the schedule this evening, but perhaps none holds more intrigue than Ron Artest making his return to Houston, to face the Rockets as a member of the Los Angeles Lakers.
But Artest isn't the only one with something to prove, as L.A. will be seeing Trevor Ariza for the first time since his agent played hardball with L.A.'s ownership group over the summer.
It's a little early to tell which team has come out ahead in this virtual trade, but looking at tonight's matchup, the Rockets would appear to be the ones with the advantage.
Houston is out to the same 3-1 start as the Lakers are, which is pretty incredible considering that most people didn't expect a team without its two biggest stars (Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady) to be able to put up enough points on most nights to win games. But not only are the Rockets scoring, they're doing so at a clip of almost 110 points per game over their last three.
So where is the scoring coming from? The one-word answer, obviously, is "everywhere."
In their last outing -- a dominant offensive and defensive performance in a road win over the Jazz -- Houston had eight players score in double figures, without a single one of them cracking the 20-point mark for the game. They did this with incredible ball movement, and by always making the extra pass to simply turn good looks into great ones.
The Lakers, meanwhile -- save for an 18-0 run in the third quarter over the Atlanta Hawks on Sunday -- have looked very pedestrian to open the season. The team pulled out an overtime win in Oklahoma City on Tuesday, but that had more to do with the Thunder's ineptness in crunch time (offensively) than it did with the Lakers' flawless execution. Too many plays late involved Kobe Bryant going one-on-five, and with Thabo Sefolosha playing lock-down defense, most of those possessions ended badly, and were a nightmare to watch.
Back to Ron Artest, who, as you might recall, seemed to be looking for reasons to hold a grudge against his former team back in April. The money quote from his Twitter diatribe was, "Houston did me dirty. I can't wait til next year when we go to Houston. I'm not shooting. All defense. Somebody getting locked da f**k up."
In this case, that somebody will likely be Trevor Ariza.
Artest hasn't fit in well yet offensively with his new team, but he has been able to lock up his man for stretches, especially during the last two games. Joe Johnson of the Hawks torched the Lakers for 18 points in the first quarter on Sunday, but when L.A. made that big run in the third, Artest was the one who was guarding Johnson, and he shut him out in the period.
On Tuesday against the Thunder, when Artest was on Kevin Durant, all of the shots were highly contested, and he even forced Durant into more than one airball, which is a testament to just how tough Artest was making it on the second-year stud.
Ariza has been better-than-expected offensively as a Rocket, shooting over 47 percent from the field and 52 percent from three-point land through the first four games. He even had a 33-point game in a win over the Blazers, something that surprised Artest when he heard about it.
"He had 33?" asked Artest with a surprised tone. Then came a grin. "That's great. I didn't know he could score 30."
Often times when two high-profile players are involved in switching teams, the game doesn't come down solely to the matchup between those players. But tonight in Houston, the winner of the Artest vs. Ariza conflict is likely to give his team a huge edge, and one which could ultimately help decide the game's final result.
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| Without Pau, this is going to be another tough game for the Lakers. Bynum should do good against Scola, but Kobe will be in a battle all night with Battier. But what worries me more are their point guards. We don't have anybody that can stop Aaron Brooks. Fisher is too slow and Farmar is just not good at defending the speedster. Lakers will have to double up on this kid and force him to pass the ball. |
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Nearly all the matchups favor the Lakers but will that be enough? Uncertain and likely doubtful. Coming off a dismal defensive effort against the young, inexperienced Thunder, the Lakers have yet to display a consistent, sustained defensive effort for 48 minutes on the basketball court. Against this underrated Rockets club, that could be their Achilles heel.
We saw during last season's playoffs just how tough this Rockets team could be. Even without Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady, they were the only playoff team to force the 2008/2009 World Champion Lakers to a game 7, which consequently scared the cr@p out of quite a few Laker fans. One could argue that this is not the same Rocket team, since a key component of last year's squad (Artest) is now a member of our Lakers. But the way their newest acquisition Ariza has been scoring and defending so far this season, they haven't missed Artest in the slightest.
In a league defined by Star and Superstar players, the Rockets currently have none to display. What they do have is the right combination of blue-collar, hard working, unselfish players who continue to outwork their opponents night in and night out.
The Rockets hustle, they defend, they share the basketball, they play with no ego, and no selfishness. Being that they were so overlooked, unappreciated, and disregarded during the off-season by nearly every NBA analysts in the media, the Rockets continue to play with a HUGE chip on their shoulder.
Back-to-back road games are tough for all the teams in the league, and I firmly believe the Lakers could be running into a buzz saw against these Rockets. It took overtime for the Lakers to put down the Thunder and you have to wonder if the Lakers will have the motivation and fortitude to mount a sustained effort tonight. I, for one, will not be surprised if the Lakers get pounded by 20+ points. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if our guys shoot the lights out and win by 10 or more points. With the Lakers, you just never know. |
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| Bynum has a hard time rebounding against smaller player for some reason. Besides Scola is going to out hustle him. Lets just hope Artest has a killer game defensively and or offensively |
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LakerHorde wrote:
Very excited about tonight's game, trev has been my favorite laker and we definitely won some close games with him. I think about it this way, with trevor, we win cliffhanger games by means of his quickness and steals, with ron ron we win cliffhanger games with his tenacious d and shutting down the opposing teams best player. So the lakers are still good if not better. Ron can match up with the lebrons and melos of the league so thats just a plus plus for us.
Yeah, and let's not forget that last year, Kobe had to defend those guys because Trevor was too skinny and 'Bron and 'Melo just overpowered him. Now Ron's here to keep them at bay, while at the same time leaving Kobe with more breathing room on defense.
I'm very excited for this game. Ariza and Artest will probably be matched up with each other, so I'm expecting a battle. I'm worried, however, about Brooks, and he's probably gonna torch our PGs tonight.
Our X-Factors will probably be Drew and Lamar. They both need to be aggressive tonight and take the ball to the hole. The Rockets don't have any shot-blockers, or any length for that matter. Their bigs are still pretty tough though, so they both need to match that aggressiveness. Kobe might have a tough night, so it's even more paramount for Drew and Lamar to dominate early. |
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| We need to get an offensive flow going instead of two passes and a shot. I can't wait to see Gasol back in the line up. |
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| Wenis a$$ Bynum....STUFF THAT BALL IN THE HOOP. He's 7 feet, 21 years old, but he's moving like a 40 year old. |
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Harry wrote:
Wenis a$$ Bynum....STUFF THAT BALL IN THE HOOP. He's 7 feet, 21 years old, but he's moving like a 40 year old.
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Kobe420 wrote:
Harry wrote:
Wenis a$$ Bynum....STUFF THAT BALL IN THE HOOP. He's 7 feet, 21 years old, but he's moving like a 40 year old.
I'm sure 3 knee surgeries has nothing to do with that.
you're right, but if he doesn't regain the January form, then we can't expect much from him anymore. |
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| one positive, at least Artest is owning Ariza.... |
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this is laughable. Landry is owning our front line. The guy moves his feet, plays tough defense, rebounds, plays physical...while Bynum is putting the ball on the rim and watching it roll off. Odom is just Mr. Clumsy so far. The Rockets are outrebounding us lol. I'm really laughing while i'm saying this. DEFENSIVE REBOUNDING IS PART OF PLAYING DEFENSE.
Kobe's the only one rebounding and doing his thing on offense.
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| the Lakers coaching staff is feeling the exact same way as i am.... |
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Urkle: CASE IN POINT!
You said you were worried about Artest getting burned by the quick guys? Well obviously, Ariza is quick. Artest has managed to lock Ariza up so far and has shown no problem guarding a quick SF.
Harry wrote:
Wenis a$$ Bynum....STUFF THAT BALL IN THE HOOP. He's 7 feet, 21 years old, but he's moving like a 40 year old.
I agree. I wish someone would have blocked that soft **** out of there and teach him to DUNK when he's open.
He obviously still has a lot to learn. He wasnt far off of Scola and when Scola faked a shot, Andrw bit and went up. The guy is 7 feet tall and has a phenomenal wing span. Scola is undersized... GET YOUR ARMS UP! |
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| Lamar is 1/9 from the field. GO LAMAR!! |
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Bynum = No Footwork..How long did Kareem coach him? They should have hired Hakeem.
That is expected of Odom, he peaks in the playoffs. |
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Jordan Farmar is in... GAME OVER FOR THE ROCKETS!
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| KOBE is a beast....this guy is something else (really?!?!)....Drew has 12 boards and 5 dimes, but it sure doesn't feel like it. Maybe its because he should have like 15 boards and at least 20 points. He's over 7 feet going up against little 6"9 people. |
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Jordan Farmar is in... GAME OVER FOR THE ROCKETS!
LOL!! You just made my day. |
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^ Yeah so far he's shooting 50% and Shane has been Shane Battier all game long defensively.
Drew needs to get it going! So does LO. If LO continues to struggle, I say we put it Powell. Powell has 7-5 in 12 minutes. |
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| the bench comes in... and what-do-u-kno, all ofa sudden a 7 point lead. DJ can't hit free throws (not that i expect him to), Farmar gets owned on the baseline, Luke can't hit a open 14 footer....this bench play is fu**in horrible. Lakers can't do anything come playoff time if Gasol isn't healthy. |
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psymd1 wrote:
ReliveThe3PEAT wrote:
Jordan Farmar is in... GAME OVER FOR THE ROCKETS!
LOL!! You just made my day.
The guy's overconfidence annoys the hell outta me.
... and the Lakers trailing a Yao-less, and a TMac-less Rockets by 7 in the 4th Q. No transition defense, no execution.... another Laker game.
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| The Lakers need to make a trade and make it soon. The starters have been playing a lot of minutes lately. This can't keep going on like this. Powell is doing pretty well this game i'll give 'em that. No one else can really do much off the bench |
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LakerMan7 wrote:
The Lakers need to make a trade and make it soon. The starters have been playing a lot of minutes lately. This can't keep going on like this. Powell is doing pretty well this game i'll give 'em that. No one else can really do much off the bench
Well thinking twice, lets just wait til Pau is at full strength to address the Team needs. I definitely think we need a new SG but maybe Sasha hasnt been playing much because we need Kobe and Ron in there longer due to Pau's absence. |
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| Lakers need to find some rhythm. Go inside, get the bigs going, and play some DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
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Pau should have rested during the summer..I hope he will slow down. Yao, Pau and Manu all hurt because of games during the off season..Manu is okay now but it affected their team last year.
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| Officiating has been horrible as of late. Even worse than the preseason refs... |
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ReliveThe3PEAT wrote:
LakerMan7 wrote:
The Lakers need to make a trade and make it soon. The starters have been playing a lot of minutes lately. This can't keep going on like this. Powell is doing pretty well this game i'll give 'em that. No one else can really do much off the bench
Well thinking twice, lets just wait til Pau is at full strength to address the Team needs. I definitely think we need a new SG but maybe Sasha hasnt been playing much because we need Kobe and Ron in there longer due to Pau's absence.
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| nevermind officiating, Lakers can't find any momentum. If it wasn't for that guy Kobe, LA would be down easy 20 points right now. He comes through every time we need a basket. Anyone else instead of Kobe, n we'd be losing right now. |
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87-89... 1:22 to play
Great effort by Kobe. Going to the line to tie the game |
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RON RON DOIN WORK
WHO SAID RON AINT CLUTCH?!?!?!?!?! |
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