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Post subject: Will LeBron join Kobe in L.A.?
 Posted: Nov 02, 2009 - 06:09 PM PST
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Well, at least I’m fairly sure now where LeBron James is going to be playing next season.
Los Angeles, most likely with the Lakers.
Stay with me a bit here, and when the Bulls are in Cleveland Thursday for the TNT national TV game with the Cavs, I doubt LeBron will have much to say on the subject. And this is hardly an overreaction to the Cavs slogging out of the starting gate this season with two losses and looking ready for pasture.
No, going to the Lakers makes all the sense in the world, and, at least to my view, fits LeBron better than it would other players of his caliber. Of which there’s basically only Kobe Bryant.
I’ve heard this scenario from some NBA people, though I’ve heard every other one as well, from staying in Cleveland to New York to New Jersey to running Berkshire Hathaway for Warren Buffett.
The general consensus seems to be LeBron stays in Cleveland given you can be a star from anywhere, the New York teams generally are a mess and would mean a step back in his competitive career, and he likes Cleveland. Makes sense and it probably is the second best option, though I strongly question the Cavs roster and decision making to help make LeBron a champion. Michael Jordan was able to accept the lack of titles into the late 1980s because the Bulls were improving and going farther each season. It appears the Cavs are backsliding.
The obvious reason this never gets discussed is no one can see James hooking on with Bryant. I really cannot understand why not.
How good a team would that be with Bryant, James, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom? Supposedly it would look like James searching out a place to win a championship instead of lifting his team to one. Allegedly a no-no.
But Bryant is 31; James is 24. Bryant has probably three really high level seasons left before some sort of a transition. It was the transition Shaq could never accept and why I think the Lakers dynasty broke up. Not because of Kobe. But because Shaq refused to be viewed as a supporting player to Bryant, and the Lakers understood that. So they traded him. Clearly the right move.
The Lakers are no sure thing to win the championship with the Celtics healthy and the Magic deep. But you add LeBron and it’s hard to imagine anyone beating them the next three or four years.
So then Kobe, working toward incredible immortality on the way to maybe 10 or 11 championships, backs off some to allow James to be the dominant figure when James is 27 or 28 and Bryant is looking at 35. Bryant could ease into a brilliant supporting role while the Lakers continue winning titles, and, in the end, like base hits, they count how many. Not how you got them.
The big reason I believe this could occur and work is because James is an unusual superstar. Jordan never would do it, and I doubt Kobe would. But you watched James in the Olympics and he seemed to embrace the supporting role, rebounding and moving the ball. He’s always said he wants to play with those Olympic teammates, and it doesn’t seem like the Cavs payroll can accommodate that.
Yes, James could go to Miami to join Dwyane Wade, and that’s possible. I’ve heard it speculated often and it puts James on the other side of the Finals from the Lakers with the Celtics having a short window. Of course, there is Dwight Howard.
Also, James is a unique superstar because he’s a very willing passer, more so than virtually every league leading scorer. He doesn’t fight the double and seems to have trusted teammates from Day 1, a trait we never saw with Jordan or Bryant. I don’t think James would have any problem submerging his ego for Bryant’s for a while knowing full well his talent already is surpassing Bryant’s. The transition under a coach like Phil Jackson would become obvious. It was Phil who practically begged Shaq to take that Lakers’ $20 million offer and accept the transition like Kareem did with Magic. Shaq was just too stubborn.
James also is unique in the way he has been so devoted to his group of friends from his youth, a star who doesn’t seem to chase other celebrities but is devoted to the group. I can see James comfortable in any role with a top team like the Lakers.
But James does have his sizeable ego. You’ve got to if you’re OK with a 10-story mural of yourself across the street from your office.
James has often talked about expanding his empire, and lately has been involved with books and movies. So where else but in L.A. would you want to be to be involved in the entertainment industry?
And, really, everyone wants to play in L.A. The weather is fabulous. You can be a star and have privacy because there are so many other stars. And then when you want to be a star you can because it is a city of stars. And basketball is by far No. 1, the only big city in the U.S. where you can say that. Plus, owner Jerry Buss knows stars sell and has been the most successful at recruiting and paying for stars.
I’ve heard the Clippers mentioned, though I see James preferring to join the best rather than try to overcome the best from a distance.
So how does it get done?
The Lakers certainly have no salary cap room. They are in no position to pay James, which remains the No. 1 priority for all free agents. James just has to explain to the Cavs he’s leaving. If they don’t accommodate him, he’s going to New York or Miami and they get nothing. But if they do in a sign and trade to save the franchise, they get a young, potential All-Star center in Andrew Bynum. Maybe Lamar Odom as well or Ron Artest. Draft picks, some pieces like Jordan Farmar. The Cavs can compete in the East with a star center and some pieces added to what they have. It’s better than nothing as cap room doesn’t mean anything in Cleveland. No one’s going there.
Look, I believe James has no idea yet what he wants to do next summer. But I also believe the Lakers’ scenario makes the most sense for him if he wants a chance to be considered among the greatest winners of all-time. I believe that’s what he’s about now, and he accomplishes that only with the Lakers.
Link has the rest of the article.
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Post subject: RE: Will LeBron join Kobe in L.A.?
Posted: Nov 02, 2009 - 06:34 PM PST
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| Yes and while we are at it, lets go get Dwight Howard and Chris Paul. Does anyone really think Kobe would go for having Lebron on the same team plus if you have to give up Bynum and Lamar then our inside game is non-existent and we become the Western version of last year's Cavs. I think during All Star weekend, they should match the East all-stars against the West team with the best record and the West All-Stars against the East team with best record and see what happens. I think a true team can beat a thrown together team of all stars. Everyone does these fantasy scenarios but all it gets you if it ever would happen is a super bloated payroll and clashing super egos. |
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Post subject: RE: Will LeBron join Kobe in L.A.?
Posted: Nov 02, 2009 - 07:01 PM PST
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I didnt even bother reading.
LeBron to the Lakers? Thats when you know the media is bored and running out of stories to write about. |
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Post subject: RE: Will LeBron join Kobe in L.A.?
Posted: Nov 02, 2009 - 07:23 PM PST
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| Dr. Buss can't afford Kobe and Prince James. That combo would break the bank. |
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Post subject: RE: Will LeBron join Kobe in L.A.?
Posted: Nov 02, 2009 - 07:50 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: Will LeBron join Kobe in L.A.?
Posted: Nov 02, 2009 - 08:15 PM PST
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| Laughable... I hear Magic and Kareem are coming out of retirement to play with Lebron and Kobe next season. Wilt Chamberlain is supposed to be resurrected from the dead and magically rejuvenated to his prime. Lastly, God is rumored to be signing with the team next summer as well. It should be a great team! |
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Posted: Nov 02, 2009 - 10:52 PM PST
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Posted: Nov 03, 2009 - 01:30 AM PST
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MrMojo112 wrote:
As soon as I grow horns and fart confetti.
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Posted: Nov 03, 2009 - 01:45 AM PST
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Posted: Nov 03, 2009 - 01:56 AM PST
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| hmmm DREAMS are for free though right? I dont know if I wouldnt mind this happening or what... its too good of a plan, there for I dont see it happening, and I too also see it as clashing egos and drama unfolds. |
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Posted: Nov 03, 2009 - 02:03 AM PST
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Posted: Nov 03, 2009 - 06:17 AM PST
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PlzOPH3T wrote:
You know what is possible? Orange Juice and Mayonnaise wearing purple and gold after the black mamba leaves the stage. Get what I'm saying?
I´d love that to happen!! He´ll be a grown scoring machine by that time. I´m sure. |
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Posted: Nov 03, 2009 - 06:20 AM PST
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I'm just going to say this to all you naysayers: the Lakers have a history of making some of the best trades of all time (in any of the four major sports); think Kareem, Kobe, Gasol, etc. Did any of you think those trades possible at the time?
Never say never, especially in a bad economy.
Even if the Lakers don't go after James, this is supposed to be one of the all-time great free agent fire sales next summer, so next June should be a fun time on this board. |
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Posted: Nov 03, 2009 - 08:51 AM PST
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I´d love that to happen!! He´ll be a grown scoring machine by that time. I´m sure.
Mamba,
I don't see it happening. But the funny thing is this, if it did happen, all the Laker fans on here who don't like Lebron right now would become HUGE fans of his all of a sudden, lol. And even more so as the year went on. |
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Posted: Nov 03, 2009 - 09:39 AM PST
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PlzOPH3T wrote:
You know what is possible? Orange Juice and Mayonnaise wearing purple and gold after the black mamba leaves the stage. Get what I'm saying?
He could get here even before Kobe leaves and play the point in the triangle |
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Posted: Nov 03, 2009 - 10:34 AM PST
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I´d love that to happen!! He´ll be a grown scoring machine by that time. I´m sure.
Mamba,
I don't see it happening. But the funny thing is this, if it did happen, all the Laker fans on here who don't like Lebron right now would become HUGE fans of his all of a sudden, lol. And even more so as the year went on.
Guilty as charged!! Haha.. I will be supporting Lebron as a Laker but I won't be a HUGE fan, It's because IF he does end up in LA wearing Purple and Gold.. Then of course I will support him as a LAKER.. I guess there's a difference between a Team Fan vs a Player Fan.. But until then.. Bring on the Kleenex.. it's a Crying Party in Cleveland!! lol |
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Interesting as this may sound, it just seems that ALL the stars & planets would have to align for this to happen. If somehow they ever could, do you really see Kobe and Lebrat being able to get along?????  |
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I think the Laker nation needs to start thinking about the after Kobe. The 4-5 guys in the league that could replace (tho a step or 2 down) Kobe will be kinda old by the time Kobe retires and we could see a new player come in and be way better than them.
Now, with Lebron it's another story. Is it really too far fetched to say the FO should look into acquiring Lebron? Although I can see how the timing is not optimal and Kobe is not ready to retire or play a secondary role for about 3-5 more years.
My question ends up being, whether Kobe's replacement in the league is definitely Lebron or is he still a freshman in high school at this point? Because if it's Lebron, what are we waiting for to ensure 15 more years of Laker domination? |
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Mamba247 wrote:
PlzOPH3T wrote:
You know what is possible? Orange Juice and Mayonnaise wearing purple and gold after the black mamba leaves the stage. Get what I'm saying?
I´d love that to happen!! He´ll be a grown scoring machine by that time. I´m sure.
He would be a great compliment to Bynum in the future. it would be like Kobe/Shaq all over again!
Thing is, Jerry West may do everything in his power to keep him. He knows talent. We just gotta hope he doesn't sign an extension... |
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Post subject: in case u didnt hear
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 06:18 PM PST
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 i was watching around the horn earlier and they were disscusing a sign n trade with lebron to the lakers.  i know i dont believe it either but would u trade bynum,artest,farmar,walton for lebron they were saying the cavs mite bite because there afraid they will lose lebron for nothing to free agency. |
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Post subject: RE: in case u didnt hear
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 06:25 PM PST
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| That's the biggest pile of BS to ever be propogated on LTB. |
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Post subject: Re: in case u didnt hear
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 06:26 PM PST
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i was watching around the horn earlier and they were disscusing a sign n trade with lebron to the lakers. i know i dont believe it either but would u trade bynum,artest,farmar,walton for lebron they were saying the cavs mite bite because there afraid they will lose lebron for nothing to free agency.
I heard it was a combination of Bynum, Odom or Artest, and Farmar for LeBron. I would jump at that trade in a heartbeat. LeBron is young and is going to be the face of the NBA when Kobe hangs them up and he would give the Lakers a solid One, Two, Three punch. Can you say Boom, Boom, Pau????? As long as we don't give up Pau or Kobe, I say trade the whole bench plus Bynum.
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Post subject: Re: RE: in case u didnt hear
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 06:29 PM PST
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maraud wrote:
That's the biggest pile of BS to ever be propogated on LTB.
They spent a whole hour talking about it on ESPN radio with Mase and Ireland so it must not be that far from BS. It actually makes sense for Cleveland to try and get some building blocks as opposed to losing LeBron out right. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: in case u didnt hear
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They spent a whole hour talking about it on ESPN radio with Mase and Ireland so it must not be that far from BS. It actually makes sense for Cleveland to try and get some building blocks as opposed to losing LeBron out right.
i didnt hear that what were they saying on the radio did it sound like the teams may be talkin or is it just a rumor they weere commenting on |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: in case u didnt hear
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 06:34 PM PST
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| Yeah, I see that as BS also. However we would be foolish not to jump at that chance to see Kobe and Lebron working together. There is no doubt in my mind that Lebron out of respect wouldn't mind stepping to the side a little while Kobe is the alpha male. Lebron could be the Pippenb we need. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: in case u didnt hear
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gemfow wrote:
Yeah, I see that as BS also. However we would be foolish not to jump at that chance to see Kobe and Lebron working together. There is no doubt in my mind that Lebron out of respect wouldn't mind stepping to the side a little while Kobe is the alpha male. Lebron could be the Pippenb we need.
Lebron could be pippen? having Lebron and Kobe would be like 2 Jordan's we're talking about the top 2 players here, Still not seeing it happen. Bynum=future |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: in case u didnt hear
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 08:04 PM PST
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KB24_85 wrote:
gemfow wrote:
Yeah, I see that as BS also. However we would be foolish not to jump at that chance to see Kobe and Lebron working together. There is no doubt in my mind that Lebron out of respect wouldn't mind stepping to the side a little while Kobe is the alpha male. Lebron could be the Pippenb we need.
Lebron could be pippen? having Lebron and Kobe would be like 2 Jordan's we're talking about the top 2 players here, Still not seeing it happen. Bynum=future
Like I said, when Kobe hangs em up, LeBron is going to own the league. I'd rather have him a Laker than a Knick, Celtic, Heat, etc. Bynum is one more injury away from needing a walker. Yeah, he's playing great right now, but that's the way he's started the past three years, then bang down he goes. LeBron is more durable and more explosive. If anyone can compare to the firepower and impact that Kobe is, it's Lebron, not Bynum. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: in case u didnt hear
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 11:52 PM PST
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Theres something about Lebron where it seems that if he ever put on a Laker uniform the sky would fall down. Similar to Manny Ramirez going to the Dodgers. Or McGrady being traded to Houston. Seems like a great fit, then the **** hits the fan.
McGrady becomes a perennial injured reserve, and Ramirez's phenomenal swing was enhanced by steroids. Take your pick. We want no part of Lebron entering his 30's.
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 12:05 AM PST
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| Okay I thought that the thought of LeBron joining Kobe in L.A. was funny the first time. Now when you keep hearing it, it is just dumb. I'd rather have Mayo like PlzOPH3T said. They honestly have a good shot at getting him I think. He has stated his dream is to be a laker, and if Kobe is about to retire by then, why not? I mean come on, does anyone really believe Mayo is gonna spend his whole career with the lowly grizzlies? |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2009 - 12:22 PM PST
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I dont think it would be that bad...
we would lose a center in bynum and lamar, which is a bench player...
we just would need a bad, not to say decent center, to replace bynum....
or actually pau would be the center, like he has been for years....
anyway, the idea like the most besides lakers winning for the next few years the championship with 98% certainty is that lebron is much younger, and when kobe is 35+ lebron would be like 28, so we would have a superstar carrying the team at least....
until yesterday's game of the lakers at huston which i did attend i thought that person could be bynum, but idk, he plays WAY to soft....
anyway, i think lebron would put his head down to kobe's ego for a few years, considering all those bran new rings he would have on his hand |
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| to the guy that said the lakers would just be last years cavs if we traded bynum and the gang for james...really? we'd still have pau. remember those bulls teams of the 90s. they had luc longley. lmao. really, kobe, james, and pau could win 3 on 5. id just have to know what scrubs we sign to fill the roster. more shaun livingstons n such haha |
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I´d love that to happen!! He´ll be a grown scoring machine by that time. I´m sure.
Mamba,
I don't see it happening. But the funny thing is this, if it did happen, all the Laker fans on here who don't like Lebron right now would become HUGE fans of his all of a sudden, lol. And even more so as the year went on.
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| heck, lebron gets to the rim more often than bynum anyway, and he plays 25 ft from the basket...id take that trade anyday. an often injured center who may or may not live up to his tru potential, a candy eatin Kardashian, and ron ron for james. think of the possibilities, yeah i know its far fetched from reality. but u couldnt even play zone against kobe and james, they both split double teams, and who's gonna double kobe when u got james on the wing? but for the most part i agree with what everyone said, i dont think kobe would agree to this trade lol |
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We would lose our inside....
it would be the lakers that lost this last championship to boston but with lebron james.... |
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yeah yeah, our inside...pau is still there. what did bynum do in the finals other than put a body on howard? nada. so in other words, we got mbenga that can do that, plus he's more physical and less of a **** than bynum. it doesnt take a monster inside game to win a championship, look at all of the celtics fwds and centers. perkins? cmon. sheed spends more time on the perimeter, and kg is 18 ft from the basket. sure they can make a move and go inside, but it depends on who's guarding them. and the celtics are still good. u dont need a traditional center to win, mj did it 6 times without one. sometimes i feel like im talkin to a pennyless kid in a GOdiva store  |
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Mamba247 wrote:
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I´d love that to happen!! He´ll be a grown scoring machine by that time. I´m sure.
Mamba,
I don't see it happening. But the funny thing is this, if it did happen, all the Laker fans on here who don't like Lebron right now would become HUGE fans of his all of a sudden, lol. And even more so as the year went on.
Randy,
you seem to have misunderstood whom I was reffering to. I meant OJ Mayo.
LeBron >>>>>>>Way Greater than mayo.
Pau, Kobe, LBJ on the same team?? come on people that's a no brainer. |
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| ok so while this is extremely far fetched who are you people saying you'd rather have oj mayo than lebron. seriously, do you watch basketball???? did u guys watch kobe and lebron in the olympics. this team would be UNSTOPPABLE. i say trade bynum, the entire bench and either artest or odom. NO BRAINER!!!!!! in order for salaries to match we'd prolly get a role playing big man, with gasol. WOW. haha this team wouldn't be fair but i highly doubt it happens. however this would be the ultimate trump to the fast starting celtics. can you imagine any team trying to guard both kobe and lebron, not to mention pau down low. hahaha but really this will never happen unless lebron goes to the cavs front office and demands to be traded to the lakers |
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ok so while this is extremely far fetched who are you people saying you'd rather have oj mayo than lebron. seriously, do you watch basketball???? did u guys watch kobe and lebron in the olympics. this team would be UNSTOPPABLE. i say trade bynum, the entire bench and either artest or odom. NO BRAINER!!!!!! in order for salaries to match we'd prolly get a role playing big man, with gasol. WOW. haha this team wouldn't be fair but i highly doubt it happens. however this would be the ultimate trump to the fast starting celtics. can you imagine any team trying to guard both kobe and lebron, not to mention pau down low. hahaha
lol. that is the problem. Do YOU watch basketball? people spend too much time looking into the individual talents of the players, and not how they would fit into the team. Of course LeBron is a great player. So people automatically think that pairing him with Kobe Bryant would be unstoppable. But I doubt that would be the case. I can just imagine Kobe trying to do his thing 1 on 1, while LeBron is standing in the corner saying, "Uh, hello? I'm right here." And you can't compare the olympics to the NBA. Those guys were forced to play together because they were playing for the United States. They know that if they acted out poorly, their image would take a huge pounding. |
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| the fact that anyone actually thinks lebron/kobe would work is laughable. |
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You guys are forgetting the formula to Championship Teams.
Dominant Bigs = Rings.
OJ Mayo= A hell of alot more realistic AND we keep our bigs. |
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the fact that anyone actually thinks lebron/kobe would work is laughable.
really?? cuz right now i see 5 stars in boston that seem to be "working" fine and if you happened to watch the olympics a couple years ago kobe and lebron did more than just work, they **** dominated. |
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| Sup yall... In regard to all the propaganda and hype, I don't think LeBron has proven a thing in his career yet other that yes he can jump. LeBron holds no innate talent like a Jordan or Bryant does. Sure players can develop into great players but I don't think James is the guy to fill the spot when Kobe takes a step back. I would like to hear an opinion on having Wayde to the Lakers. Dwayne Wayde is a proven scorer from all facets of the game (like Kobe), he's a champion, and displays that innate talent a real superstar can bring to L.A. To me Dwayne Wade would just be plug in play to the Laker offense while James would still be a work in progress. Not only to the triangle but as a player. Oh yea... Wayde can jump too... and drive..... and shoot...... |
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LAKERBOY55 wrote:
Sup yall... In regard to all the propaganda and hype, I don't think LeBron has proven a thing in his career yet other that yes he can jump. LeBron holds no innate talent like a Jordan or Bryant does. Sure players can develop into great players but I don't think James is the guy to fill the spot when Kobe takes a step back. I would like to hear an opinion on having Wayde to the Lakers. Dwayne Wayde is a proven scorer from all facets of the game (like Kobe), he's a champion, and displays that innate talent a real superstar can bring to L.A. To me Dwayne Wade would just be plug in play to the Laker offense while James would still be a work in progress. Not only to the triangle but as a player. Oh yea... Wayde can jump too... and drive..... and shoot......
If it came down to Wayde or LeBron..I'd take Wayde. But if LeBron wanted to come to LA to join Kobe, I would welcome it too. Then the naysayers would be flocking to buy tickets and it would actually be like the NY Yankees buying the championship. Like someone else said, if the Celtics can do it, the Lakers should have no prob. with Gasol, Kobe, and LBJ. Period. |
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| really you guys would take d-wade?? a guy who definitely struggles with injury issues + he has a similar body build as well as style of play. lebron brings a totally different set of skills to the table. plus he has proven he can shoot the 3 well. lebron will only improve and think about the blocks he would bring to this team. |
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jc89 wrote:
SAMMi24 wrote:
the fact that anyone actually thinks lebron/kobe would work is laughable.
really?? cuz right now i see 5 stars in boston that seem to be "working" fine and if you happened to watch the olympics a couple years ago kobe and lebron did more than just work, they **** dominated.
Yes really. Let's get one thing straight, celtics have 5 great players working together.. not 5 players who we constantly debate over being the BEST. You're talking about having two players who are considered to be the world's best on the same team... if there is one thing we can be certain of, it's that these guys both have huge egos and neither will be down to be second fiddle to one another. |
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Never say nerver! who knows whats possible these days??? I see the point of it being difficult for the cavs to lure any allstar talent to the team, that part makes sence to me. I imagine even if the deal did go through and lebron opted out at the end of the year we would be well under the cap, thus alowing us to pursue other options as well.
cant say that I would be disappointed either way. |
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I also read it on MSNBC's website: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/33707829/ns/sports-nba/
I think LeBron has played better and better but there is one thing he is lacking and that is the heart of a champion. Kobe can teach that to him. (Well, Shaq can too) And all bets are off if the Cavs win this year. |
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