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Post subject: The Official Trade Ideas Thread
 Posted: Jul 10, 2007 - 11:43 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: TRADE IDEA!!!!
Posted: Jul 10, 2007 - 11:47 PM PST
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| pj brown is a free agent now and is thinking of retiring so thats last years salary. duhon is looking for a long term deal which im not sure if minny is looking for something like that, but we would definitely get the best of that deal. its just not possible. |
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Post subject: RE: TRADE IDEA!!!!
Posted: Jul 10, 2007 - 11:54 PM PST
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| Exactly what Cyclone said, those contracts are not in play anymore. |
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Post subject: RE: TRADE IDEA!!!!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:13 AM PST
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| If they were, Minny wouldnt go for it |
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Post subject: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:30 PM PST
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laker's send Vladimir Radmanovic, Brian cook, Lamar Odom and Jordan Farmar to the timberwolves and also send Andrew Bynum and kwame Brown to the Nuggets.
The nuggets send Marcus Camby to the laker's and the timberwolves send (Mark Blount or Troy Hudson) large contract and Kevin Garnett to the Lakers.
Sending Brown to the Nuggets gives them the expiring contract that the seek to get in return for Camby and also gives them a young center that can possibly fill his shoes in the future and be able to team up with melo and A.I.
The Timberwolves would get some young talent in Cook, Farmar, Radmanovic and Odom would be able to put up some KG like numbers because the majority of the offense would be ran through him. Because the Timberwolves are getting the least amount of talent I think it would be possible that the Nuggets can send Steve Blake to them in a sign and trade but more likely get the laker's future draft picks and/or players that were drafted this year such as Marc Gasol, Sun Yue that can help them in the near future.
In response to dropping 3 roster spots We can sign Fisher with the mid-level exception and also give Webber the veteran exception which will give us a decent big man who can pass the ball and give some quality minutes off the bench. Then resign Mihm to a reduced contract because he can give quality minutes off the bench as well This would leave the team with a starting lineup that would like this Fisher, Kobe, Walton, KG, Camby and off the bench it would leave Crittenton, Evans, Vujacic, Turiaf, (Blount/Hudson), Webber and Mihm.
The combination of Fisher and Walton knowing how to run the Triangle offense and the scoring of Kobe and KG would be enough of a solid day after day offense. That combination of scoring would be plenty because of the very strong defense that the laker's would now obtain with Kobe being able to go back to the lock down defender we all know he can be because he will not have to carry the entire offensive load and KG and Camby are two outstanding defensive players in their own right.
As a result of all these moves we would most likely be put over the luxury tax threshold but that would only cause a problem for 1 year. It would only really be a problem for one year because if KG likes his first year in the gold and purple he can opt out of his contract and resign at a greatly reduced price. I think it is a very good possibility that he would entertain this idea because he is a very loyal person and he wants to win a championship now that hes got all the money he needs. If that did happen the laker's would not be in trouble of having to go dollar for dollar two years in a row because of the luxury tax.
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4093354 (with Hudson in trade)
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4093375 (with Blount in the trade)
* As you can see both of these trades work money wise and as for production the laker's get the least amount of it the Nuggets and the Timberwolves both gain in pretty much all stats overall. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:39 PM PST
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| Now your lineup has centers playing SFs and we will be terribly slow coming back on defense. We will have 4 natural centers, 3 power forwards who can play center and all the rest are guards. Nobody can run the triangle, and nobody can shoot. Not a good idea. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:43 PM PST
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| Where do you see that centers are playing the SF position? |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:44 PM PST
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is getting garnett worth that much? i mean. i understand we have critt. but giving up farmar. as well as bynum.. and then still add lo...i mean i don't care much for rad nor cook..but then you throw in odom and kwame..sounds kind of dumb if it happens. they're better off keeping the trades as small as possible. and adding sasha/cook/rad.. to make a trade happen. all 3 who are under achieving in the lakers.
correction..trade wouldn't be so bad.. i just realized that camby would be coming to lakers...and he would help us out. but still think lakers should give up less |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:46 PM PST
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| What are you smoking? This would never happen. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:47 PM PST
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| That's pretty good, I like that. How'd you come up with that? Did you hear it or read it somewhere? |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:48 PM PST
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| No one is going to want sasha and cook giving up brown and odom and bynum is worth it really as Kobe really doesnt want bynum on the team he don't want to wait for him to grow into the great player he eventually will. Brown is slow getting back on defense and with that trade you add KG who is great on defense can guard any for the top centers or PF in the west and Camby is the raining defensive player of the year. Odom will never prosper in the shadows of Kobe KG would be the perfect player that would let Kobe take over and be the 2ed man hes not worried about being number 1 just worried about winning. Camby does not look for his offense really only concentrates on defense which is what we lack right now with brown and odom. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:49 PM PST
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| He probably came up with it himself. The Laker fans come up with better deals than any of the FO of either team. We can only hope that Mitch reads this and use our suggestions. But that is very unlikely. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:51 PM PST
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| LakerWarriorInLA I came up with it all by myself I wish that it would really happen as I truly think that if it went through we would be up to that next level we seek to obtain once again which is being the top 3 team in the west. It all really came about just fiddling around with trade possibilities and looking at what teams what and are trying to get rid of the nuggets want to dump camby in a sense for a expiring contract and young talent and that is what they get in that trade. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:55 PM PST
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| Call Mitch and tell him you have the answer to his prayers. I doubt if he'll listen though. He is hell bent to destroy this team. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:57 PM PST
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| LOL don't we all wish we could have an inside source to convey our ideas to the FO if Kobes website was up the things could get leaked to him through his webmaster but its all very slim chances of happening |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:02 PM PST
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| Turiaf cannot play SF. He will have heart attack chasing LeBron James. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:08 PM PST
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| No one but Kobe would actually be guarding lebron James. The way it would work would be kobe would guard their best pg,sg or sf and KG would guard the better of the two bigs. You have to admit Turiaf at 6"9 runs the floor pretty well and is a bundle of energy for the minutes he plays no matter what hes doing whether its dancing around on the bench or make clutch defensive stops. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:12 PM PST
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| Yes but that scene suggests Turiaf will now be guarding the 2 guard. On-court stroke? |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:16 PM PST
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| Every defense has its holes in match ups thats the game. When you have camby and KG locking down the two bigs and kobe locking down the best guard your going to be doing pretty well on defense overall. Turiaf gets it done really no matter who hes trying to guard on defense and if its really a problem you bring in Mo who is a quality defender. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:21 PM PST
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| Well we can only hope the Laker brass reads your post. Good job chief! Even though your a Yankee Fan! Dodger Blue For Ever! |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:22 PM PST
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If Mitch and the keystone cops can pull off something this complicated then the question would be...what's he been waiting for?
KG and Camby on our team...yeah it's a nice dream but has no basis in reality. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:27 PM PST
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| The camby trade could easily happen their getting exactly what they want in return for camby. They have come out and said hes our most tradeable asset and we want a expiring contract to come in below the luxury tax |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:34 PM PST
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| It would be possible if Kupcake gets off of his a** and gets it done. But 1979 I know what you mean. . . it has no basis of reality when Mitch is involved. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:36 PM PST
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| Well then maybe the real question is where is Jerry West phone number so he can call up mitch and tell him what to do word for word and make mitch look like a hero |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:43 PM PST
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| I wish I had West's phone number. He is my favorite player. However, he doesn't seem to want to be involved with the current Laker soap opera. I can't say I blame him. Still, it would be nice if he can get involved and help the fanchise that made him a legand. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:51 PM PST
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| The deal it relatively a fair one you throw around a few future draft picks and or prospects for a lack of a better work and the trade helps out all sides and everyone gets what they want I think that it is jsut a matter of time until early august rolls around when people that were drafted this year are allowed to be traded. When that time comes i think you'll see us land JO which would be a terrible trade for us or land KG which would put us back on the map. Getting JO is a bad trade because hes an injury prone person and if he spends any time on the DL like he seems to find himself there every year the laker's would be screwed. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:56 PM PST
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| I agree about JO. It is either KG or nothing. We will only hurt ourselves if we give up too much for anyone else. KG will get us a championship this year. JO may get us down the road, but with out the players we will give up for him, we will not help. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 01:58 PM PST
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| I rather do nothing this year and have a shot at getting KG after he opts out and still have the players we woulda just shipped out to indy for a injury prone joke |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:12 PM PST
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| I like that too. That is up to Minny. If they do nothing, then we can do nothing. I guess it's up to fate. I rather put my faith in fate than in Mitch and the FO. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:16 PM PST
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We can live w/o KG this year guys! We have a solid team with Fish comin. KG would help alot but i rather wait till next year and sign him.
We WILL be a top 5 team if we stay healthy, LLO performs well and we have chemistry on/off the court. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:17 PM PST
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| HAHA if they actually thought about it financially they would hop all over it but in reality they are happy with the money they are making now. If you bring in two players like camby and KG it gives you the ability to hike up the seat prices even more because everyone is going to want to see KG and KB playing together. Jersey sales for kobe were #1 because he switched numbers imagine KGs jersey how much it would rise up just like AI did last year with the Nuggets lol. Its a simple easy fair trade that will prolly never be entertained for acknowledged by our FO |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:18 PM PST
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| We wait then with an open eye. See if someone makes a move. Kind of like the old Get Smart TV series. Everyone waits until some wise guy shoots first. Then everyone else gets shot dead, with the exception of Maxwell Smart. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:18 PM PST
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YANKEESandLAKERS4life wrote:
The camby trade could easily happen their getting exactly what they want in return for camby. They have come out and said hes our most tradeable asset and we want a expiring contract to come in below the luxury tax
Not easily, the guy just won defensive player of the year. And Kwame has... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:20 PM PST
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| Kwame has the tools to become something but just doesnt want that. If he did he would be soo much better. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:20 PM PST
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| Warren I generally appreciate your feedback, but joking about an on-court heart attack for someone with prior heart problems, is in poor taste. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:23 PM PST
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| Bynumite_17 if our plan is to just resign fisher,mihm and luke and thats its Kobes going to be very unhappy and 1 more losing season will spell the end of Kobes career as a laker and will also end Phil jacksons coaching career for the lakers. If we do nothing huge kobe will be ranting all season and will be threating that he will opt out and leave the lakers with nothing so i dont think any of the above is what you want. And as far as chemistry goes hahaahahahahaha................... chemistry after this offseason where every person practically on the team has been shitted on by kobe and the media just dumped more of it on and you think they will be able to coexist on and off the court i highly highly doubt that |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:28 PM PST
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| LakerFire24 I know he just won that award as do the Nuggets but if u read the news and heard the nuggets say he is their most tradeable asset that can bring them under the luxury tax thresh hold and they would be willing to part with him for an expiring front court contract and a young talent and brown and bynum fit that criteria to a T |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:30 PM PST
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Kobe already said sorry about everything. Yes he is still mad about no star but we just cant get one right now. we cant/havent.
Anyone mentioned can be an upgrade but unlikely. If kobe leaves forget him. He isnt the Lakers. hes kobe.
We are all LAKER fans and kobe isnt the lakers.
As long as he is on our team i support him. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:33 PM PST
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| These are all grown men you think kobe saying sorry to bynum who is the only one he apologized to is going to really take that to heart lol he only did it because he wanted to set a good example for the kids at his basketball camp. Hes not sorry about what he said anyway he said he was sorry how the media leaked it and let the information out. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:39 PM PST
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I guess someone is being playing nba live 2006 for xbox360! be real man this
trade is stupid and unrealistic. The good news is that 33 year old fisher might be back, way to go mitchie kupcakes! i guess that's the best you can do. his azz should have been fired since the shaq trade. |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:40 PM PST
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| I hope that they are not making jokes about someones heart condition. If he wasn't cleared to play, we still have someone competent left on the staff. I’m sure they would not let Ronny play if he is not. |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:43 PM PST
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| He's perfectly healthy lol and he wears a heart guard when he plays in the game hes not going to have a heart attack. Someone said it context to him chasing around lebron James |
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Post subject: RE: Possible new lakers trade!
Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:46 PM PST
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| Magic33 whats your best possible trade that works money wise and needs wise then. And i don't even think you can do 3 team trades in a video game so your reference there is crap. |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:50 PM PST
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Good trade idea, I like the guys we're taking in. I am not sure if I would pull the trigger on this. Oh yeah - IT IS THE MOST UNREALISTIC TRADE IDEA EVER!!!
There is NO WAY that two Western Conference teams are going to trade us one of the top 5 players in the League and the Defensive Player of the Year. NO WAY! Plus Hudson is tiny - Phil will not play him. Why bring him on?
I understand that we make trade ideas with the Lakers in mind, but let's at least think about the other teams perspective when we put them together to make sure that is at the very least, a slight chance that it can go down. |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 02:53 PM PST
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| Why bring in hudson/blount for the fact that the timberwolves want to get rid of his contract. The denver part of the deal is realistic its what they want its as simple as that the only part of the deal thats shaky is what the timberwolves get in return. |
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Janglesjr
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 03:01 PM PST
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| I understand the TWolves want him (Hudson) gone, he requested a trade himself. Why would the Lakers want Hudson? He would never play and is getting paid too much... |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 03:04 PM PST
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| If it means getting KG you accept the setback of paying the money you have to meet their needs and their needs are dumping some **** contracts and getting something decent for KG b4 he opts out and get nothing. the more likely guy they would want to dump is blount because his contract is larger. Either way if you land kg in that type of situation its a non issue taking on a shitty play and is bloated contract |
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BaadMaster
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 03:19 PM PST
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| How about these trades: Jim Buss for Koko The Clown, Kupcake for any Colangelo, Phil Jackson for Avery Johnson, Jerry Buss for Mark Cuban and Jeannie Buss for Scarlett Johannson. |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 03:34 PM PST
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| I like the johannson part |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 - 03:41 PM PST
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| Keep Jackson and dumped the rest |
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