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Post subject: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
 Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 12:46 AM PST
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Lakers close to Fisher's heart
Point guard was released from his contract with Jazz to care for his daughter, but he might be too expensive for his old team.
By Mike Bresnahan
Times Staff Writer
9:16 PM PDT, July 3, 2007
Javaris Crittenton arrived at the Lakers' practice facility Tuesday morning for a physical exam and a meet-and-greet with the media.
Will another backcourt addition be far behind?
The Lakers were as stunned as anybody that Derek Fisher asked to be released from the Utah Jazz with a contract that still had three years and almost $21 million remaining on it.
Fisher's reasoning was simple: His infant daughter, Tatum, had a rare form of eye cancer. Fisher plans to move to one of a half-dozen cities with appropriate medical care for his daughter.
It's not hard to envision him returning to the Lakers.
Phil Jackson has a tremendous comfort level with players he has coached, and Fisher was one of Kobe Bryant's confidants when the Lakers were winning championships. Fisher played eight seasons with the Lakers after being drafted in 1996 and obviously knows the triangle offense after being part of three championship runs.
"The Lakers are obviously close to his heart," Fisher's agent, Mark Bartelstein, said Tuesday.
But Fisher will seek the full mid-level exception of five years and about $30 million, Bartelstein said, which might be too much for the Lakers, who must spend their main free-agent tool wisely.
Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak declined to talk about specific negotiations with Fisher, but the fact Fisher left behind almost $21 million in guaranteed money did not escape him.
"That's the unprecedented part about this, is that there's a person out there that would do that," Kupchak said. "I'm not surprised that that's Derek Fisher."
Despite turning 33 next month, Fisher showed few signs of slowing down last season.
He averaged 10.1 points, 3.3 assists and 27.9 minutes, marks that were higher than his totals during the 2003-04 season, his last with the Lakers. He averaged 7.1 points, 2.1 assists and 21.6 minutes that season before signing a six-year, $36-million free-agent contract with Golden State.
For now, the Lakers have only three ballhandling guards on their roster — Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar and Crittenton.
The Lakers are a little uneasy with Steve Blake asking for the full mid-level exception. Another backcourt option is Greek guard Theo Papaloukas, although the Lakers have downplayed that possibility since a Greek newspaper reported last week that Papaloukas had been offered a contract by them.
Meanwhile, Crittenton, 19, officially became a Laker by signing a two-year, $2.7-million contract. Beyond that, the Lakers have two one-year options that could bring his total salary to more than $6 million through four seasons.
At the very least, he seems ready to tackle Jackson's reputation of overlooking rookies.
"That's fine with me," Crittenton said. "He's only going to make me a better player. He's coached some of the greatest athletes and he's only made them better."
Crittenton averaged 14.4 points and 5.8 assists in one season at Georgia Tech and was drafted by the Lakers with the 19th pick.
Farmar and Crittenton will play for the Lakers' summer league team, which begins play Sunday in Las Vegas.
Former Cal State Fullerton guard Ralphy Holmes will also be on the team, as will Coby Karl, the son of Denver Nuggets Coach George Karl.
Lakers assistants Brian Shaw and Kurt Rambis are coaching the team, which will play five games. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 12:49 AM PST
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| im sorry. he isnt worth the full mle. if he is serious about that, then we need to move on. we dont need 3 role players on our roster that either have max mle's or 6 year 30 mil dollar contracts. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 12:52 AM PST
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 12:54 AM PST
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| Right on C Nic. The full MLE can be given to someone better. Sorry DFish, welike but we don't like you that much. Good luck to your daughter man. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 12:54 AM PST
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| thanks wilt. he's also ging to be 33 next month. that would mean we would have to pay him till he's 38. im willing to bet that by the time he is 35 or 36, he is going to be like aaron mckie. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 12:55 AM PST
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| it looks like everyone is looking for the mle we are targeting and it not be easy for no one to get cheap players while they are all trying to get paid.if i had to give the mle to anyone d fish is someone to consider especially for all he has done for the lakers. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 12:57 AM PST
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| fish is a good guy but we cant think of the past and what he has done for us. we have to think about what he will be able to do for us in the present and future. |
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I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 01:01 AM PST
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| I thought we could get him for around 3 mil a year, 5 mil is a little to steep. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 01:02 AM PST
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| well judging off the present he will get that money cause he was a big reason why utah got to the wcf and teams will acknowledge that |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 01:02 AM PST
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| i agree LA. a three year contract worth about 10 mil would be perfect. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 01:07 AM PST
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| although i wish we could give him that but the reality is 5 mill in the nba is nothing considering guys like blake are asking for that.teams like mia,clippers,and others will pay that. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 01:25 AM PST
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| a tough thing to stomach is, could derek play in a starting role with the Lakers? The problem i see is that he's never started in more than 20 games in a season, yes he's a very good player off the bench but spending the full MLE on a non-starter is a horrid decision. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 02:05 AM PST
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with all this talk about money, you know what I would like to see? someone taking a pay cut in order to have another quality player on the team... sounds far fetched, i know... but what kind of showing would that be from that player to another... "hey, i am willing to be paid less because winning is more important to me, and because we need you to win."
that would be awesome. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 02:12 AM PST
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| He needs to take less. Nobody will take him at that price. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 03:19 AM PST
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Fish is one of my favorite players ever. right there with kobe, grant hill. He has a great attitude and like Robert Horry makes teams better just by being on them. Nonetheless, the full MLE is high priced.
If we could convince him to play for half the MLE and for Theo to play for the other half. Damn. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 03:44 AM PST
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| I still think Papa is are number on priority. We don't both Fisher and Papa. It's one or the other. Papa is worth the max out deal on the MLE. If we can't ge another top free agent I would offer fisher a five year 20 million contract with team option for the final two years of the contract. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 06:11 AM PST
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he would be a great addition, but not 4 the full MLE...thats just too much for a role player.
On the other hand, he and Kobe are good friends, so maybe this will give us some leverage in keepin Kobes....nah...Full MLE is just to much...Nicky is right, 10 mil for 3 years |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 08:14 AM PST
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Fisher is a start, at building a team with players that Kobe trust and respect. Kobe and Fish talk regularly, according to Fish.
Fish would also make it easier for the Lakers to keep Bynum. He was a mediator between Kobe and Shaq when they bumped heads. Fish would be about the best, true vet- pg we could get. Better than Knight or Papaloukas, IMO. |
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Post subject: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 09:47 AM PST
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| we should try to get fisher for about 3 mil, and give him a signing bonus. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 11:50 AM PST
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lakersbill wrote:
we should try to get fisher for about 3 mil, and give him a signing bonus.
this isnt the NFL. there are no signing bonuses in the NBA. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 12:00 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: d fish seeks full mle 5yrs 30 mill
Posted: Jul 04, 2007 - 12:29 PM PST
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| full mle is too much and we just signed crittenton so we have 3 pg's under our belt.. not sure if i want him for MLE but vet sounds good. |
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