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Post subject: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All Other Teams
 Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:01 PM PST
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Just spent a couple of hours on the major fan sites of Boston, Cleveland, Orlando, San Antonio, and Portland.
Never have I seen such anger and despair at such an early stage of a just concluded season. The top echelon teams had hoped to draw even with the Lakers, and the just likewise talented but younger teams such as Portland, had hoped to at least draw close. Their hopes have been dashed.
I am not an Artest fan, but given the universal demonstrations of disconsolate hand-wringing and crying that this signing has elicited, then I guess the Laker FO must have done something right!
In most of these sites, the immediate reaction of the fans has been to call into question in no uncertain terms the competence of their respective Front Offices. A common thought evident in these sites, first Gasol, now Artest and almost certainly Odom - what is this? Has the question is God a Laker finally been answered! Of course, all thoughts are laced with a higher content of profanity, and invective than usual. They really don't like us getting Artest. For the life of me, I can't understand why.
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Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:16 PM PST
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| I did the same I went to a Utah forum and left a few comments to spark my troll tsunami it was beautiful. And its not that front offices arent competent Artest was always coming to LA its what he wanted and why he took less money to do it, gotta get my number 96 lakers jersey soon. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All Other Te
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:20 PM PST
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Hahaha! I agree with you Cuckoo. I love to see opposing team's fans squirm! Though I've always had great respect for Artest as an individual talent, I certainly never considered myself an Artest fan. That may change now that he is dawning the sacred purple and gold. Still, I love to see the drama that his signing has incited nationwide amongst fans of opposing teams. If the Lakers were not a truly feared team before, they certainly will be now.
I know how I'd feel if I were Brandon Roy making a strong move toward the basket and being hounded on defense by one Kobe Bryant. My teammate LaMarcus Aldridge lays a bone jarring pick on Kobe to set me free. I'm certain to score now, but my hopes are soon dashed as Ron Artest slides over on the switch, muscling me out of the paint and forcing me into an off-balance, contested jump shot. I'm seeing double vision as this impenetrable perimeter duo keeps me flustered and unable to help my team. These feelings of desperation and hopelessness last all game long. I know it will get even worse for me in the playoffs when the defensive intensity is at its highest. I tell myself, this must have been what it was like to play against Michael and Scottie. These guys are just too good... |
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Post subject: RE: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All Other Te
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:20 PM PST
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| lol never been one to go to fan sites of other teams but reading what the say in the thread from the playoffs was just so funny, i honestly think boston are finished hence the shopping of allen and rondo, they should look to trade pierce now tho because ron ron matches up very well with him |
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Post subject: RE: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All Other Te
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:29 PM PST
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I've got friends that are Spurs fans and when they got Jefferson, they kept saying now the Lakers don't have a chance.
Little did they know, the Lakers were about to do one better. The Lakers were about to get Ron Artest.
The conversation hasn't really been going on about who the best team is now.
Now that the Lakers have Artest though, I think it's time to try this defensive lineup out:
Kobe
Artest
Odom
Gasol
Bynum
Good luck scoring against that team. If the Lakers are playing a team with a not so fast SF(like LeBron James), the Lakers should try this lineup. Heck, even if the Lakers are playing against LeBron, try this lineup.
Gotta love having Artest in the purple and gold now. He's been one of my favorite players for a while now. I don't know why, but for some reason, my favorite players are always the ones that aren't loved by everybody out there and always seem to be in the middle of some drama. Players like Terrell Owens, Michael Vick, Mike Tyson(back in the day), Kobe Bryant, Alex Rodriguez, etc etc.
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Post subject: RE: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All Other Te
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:41 PM PST
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Yeah, I was over at RealCavsFans and they are freaking out. They are calling us "unstoppable", "unbeatable", and how they wished they had landed Artest.
Its a great feeling... great, great feeling knowing we have Artest and nobody else can have him!
Think about it. We can throw Artest on Roy, LeBron, Melo, Wade, Granger, Durant, Pierce, Iguodala... you name it! Kobe can probably take on the faster guys... and I think this is where Ariza is missed. He did a great job slowing down the faster guys. But I cant complain, we got Artest! Way to go Mitch. Im still thrilled about this! |
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Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:44 PM PST
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ReliveThe3PEAT wrote:
Yeah, I was over at RealCavsFans and they are freaking out. They are calling us "unstoppable", "unbeatable", and how they wished they had landed Artest.
Its a great feeling... great, great feeling knowing we have Artest and nobody else can have him!
Think about it. We can throw Artest on Roy, LeBron, Melo, Wade, Granger, Durant, Pierce, you name it! Kobe can probably take on the faster guys... and I think this is where Ariza is missed. He did a great job slowing down the faster guys. But I cant complain, we got Artest! Way to go Mitch. Im still thrilled about this!
That is the one big advantage he gives us is more muscle against the elite SFs. Some cavs fans were saying he defends LeBron better than anyone. I was gritting my teeth against Denver, when Carmelo was just absolutely taking it to Trevor on the block. I mean how many offensive rebounds and second shots did he get? Carmelo is a bull down there, but he won't be able to muscle Artest around like he did Ariza. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All Other Te
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:45 PM PST
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Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:50 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All Other Te
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 03:28 PM PST
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Hi Cuckoo.
Would you be so kind as to share some of the threads and sites you are visiting? I would love to read a few of the juicier threads.
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Post subject: Re: RE: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All Othe
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 03:54 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Artest Signing: Despair, Death Of Hope For All
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Wow, so funny to see all the other fans hating on us big time now. They're angry because either they didn't get Artest or because he decided to join the Lakers. LOL
Listen folks...the Lakers are the most storied NBA franchise as well as (I hate to say it) the Boston Celtics. But everyone in the world knows the purple & gold. Plus the organization treats their players well and they stand pat at what they do. The organization itself is enticing to join. I can see why marquee free agents want to join the Lakers. I mean yeah...you get the glitz and the glam...but what really entices players more is the tradition of winning championships in Los Angeles. |
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| Honestly, how do you guys think Artest will behave being under Kobe's command? I mean, Kobe is like an assistant coach for that team. Will he be alright with not being in the spotlight? Will he still throw up those ill-advised threes? I'm just very very worried that he'll ruin the team chemistry. |
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SAMMi24 wrote:
Honestly, how do you guys think Artest will behave being under Kobe's command? I mean, Kobe is like an assistant coach for that team. Will he be alright with not being in the spotlight? Will he still throw up those ill-advised threes? I'm just very very worried that he'll ruin the team chemistry.
I'm not worried at all. Artest knows that this is Kobe's team. I mean the guy was at every Lakers home playoff game after we eliminated his team (at that time the Rockets). He and Kobe are good friends. When you play against an opponent, you have no friends on the court. The Lakers will find a way for him to coincide with Kobe and Pau. |
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SAMMi24 wrote:
Honestly, how do you guys think Artest will behave being under Kobe's command? I mean, Kobe is like an assistant coach for that team. Will he be alright with not being in the spotlight? Will he still throw up those ill-advised threes? I'm just very very worried that he'll ruin the team chemistry.
I'd rather have Artest shooting ill advised threes than Sasha shooting ill advised threes. Artest has a better shot at making them. Besides, Artest won't get burned on defense like Sasha does. Can you say 2008 Finals (Cough cough) Ray Allen? |
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...Artest won't get burned on defense like Sasha does. Can you say 2008 Finals (Cough cough) Ray Allen?
True, Artest would have rather died than give up an uncontested layup to Ray Allen in the closing seconds of game 4 in the Finals. |
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SAMMi24 wrote:
Honestly, how do you guys think Artest will behave being under Kobe's command? I mean, Kobe is like an assistant coach for that team. Will he be alright with not being in the spotlight? Will he still throw up those ill-advised threes? I'm just very very worried that he'll ruin the team chemistry.
I'd rather have Artest shooting ill advised threes than Sasha shooting ill advised threes. Artest has a better shot at making them. Besides, Artest won't get burned on defense like Sasha does. Can you say 2008 Finals (Cough cough) Ray Allen?
I wasn't comparing him to Sasha, I was comparing him to Ariza. I'd rather have a player I know will work well with the other guys on the court. Ariza didn't shoot ill-advised threes because he knew that Kobe wouldn't allow that. With Artest there is a large possibility that he won't care what Kobe will "allow" for lack of a better word. |
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| There won't be any problems with Artest. How is this even a question? The guy wants to win, which is why he took a paycut from the lakers. Look at the interviews. He is all business, stating how he wants that championship. He is going to make Plascke eat his words, as he said on his twitter. |
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ReliveThe3PEAT wrote:
Yeah, I was over at RealCavsFans and they are freaking out. They are calling us "unstoppable", "unbeatable", and how they wished they had landed Artest.
Its a great feeling... great, great feeling knowing we have Artest and nobody else can have him!
Think about it. We can throw Artest on Roy, LeBron, Melo, Wade, Granger, Durant, Pierce, you name it! Kobe can probably take on the faster guys... and I think this is where Ariza is missed. He did a great job slowing down the faster guys. But I cant complain, we got Artest! Way to go Mitch. Im still thrilled about this!
That is the one big advantage he gives us is more muscle against the elite SFs. Some cavs fans were saying he defends LeBron better than anyone. I was gritting my teeth against Denver, when Carmelo was just absolutely taking it to Trevor on the block. I mean how many offensive rebounds and second shots did he get? Carmelo is a bull down there, but he won't be able to muscle Artest around like he did Ariza.
That's one of the first things I thought of. I remember seeing Trevor and even Kobe being muscled around down on the block against Melo. I know Artest will be important against the Cavs(if they make it to the Finals), but the Lakers have gotta make it past Denver or San Antonio first.
I can't wait for the season to start. I wanna see how this team is going to mesh and see how Artest is going to adjust to his role. |
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There won't be any problems with Artest. How is this even a question? The guy wants to win, which is why he took a paycut from the lakers. Look at the interviews. He is all business, stating how he wants that championship. He is going to make Plascke eat his words, as he said on his twitter.
The guy is mentally unstable. And anybody would say that while going to a contender. I don't doubt that he wants to win a ring, I just doubt that he has the mental capabilities of winning one. Shaq was all business when he went to Phoenix to get a ring for Nash. It didn't work. But we'll see, I hope it works out just fine. |
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SAMMi24 wrote:
I wasn't comparing him to Sasha, I was comparing him to Ariza. I'd rather have a player I know will work well with the other guys on the court. Ariza didn't shoot ill-advised threes because he knew that Kobe wouldn't allow that. With Artest there is a large possibility that he won't care what Kobe will "allow" for lack of a better word.
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The guy is mentally unstable. And anybody would say that while going to a contender. I don't doubt that he wants to win a ring, I just doubt that he has the mental capabilities of winning one. Shaq was all business when he went to Phoenix to get a ring for Nash. It didn't work. But we'll see, I hope it works out just fine.
Keep in mind that Ariza too had trouble and was considered a "cancer" from a great coach like Larry Brown... How did that turn out?
He turned out to be a GREAT role player, and then a SOLID starter, thus helping LA redeem themselves and FINALLY win the championship.
Im honestly not worried at all about Artest. He looks like he ALREADY loves LA and has been dying to be a Laker since the 08 Finals. When a player loves their team like that, there shouldnt be any complications whatsoever.
I understand why some of you guys are trippin, but he is a new man. From what I know, that 04 brawl was the only incident that he's been on. Is Melo a cancer too? Lets get real here. Nobody is perfect! Only 1 man has EVER been perfect on this earth.
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| I think its clear that SAMMi24 is NOT a Ron Artest fan and is obviously a Trevor Ariza fan. These kinds of Laker fans are bound to be disappointed, people. Don't worry, the 2009/2010 70 win season will cure all these kinds of doubts. Once the Lakers ink Lamar, I'll be ready to enjoy another spectacular Lakers winning season. |
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