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Post subject: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discount From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 01:31 AM PST
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Trevor Ariza's agent David Lee said Monday that the Lakers won't receive a hometown discount from his client.
Lee declined to reveal how much of a raise Ariza will seek when he becomes an unrestricted free agent, but he said his client should make him the most coveted wing player on the market.
Among the teams Lee expects to pursue Ariza are Detroit, Portland and Toronto.
"It's a question of how committed the Lakers are to competing again," Lee said. "If everyone else stood still, you could see what happens when a piece is missing, but the reality is teams out there are positioning themselves to be competitive. When other teams are getting better, you can't afford to rest on your laurels."
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Post subject: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 01:34 AM PST
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Ugh... Of course! David Lee again!!  |
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Post subject: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 01:40 AM PST
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We gotta keep him!!!!!!!!!  |
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Post subject: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 01:42 AM PST
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Damn.... I totally forgot Lee was his agent!
If it werent for those 4.5 mil that we came out with in the draft, I hate to say it, bt I think we would have been ****!  |
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Post subject: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 01:50 AM PST
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| we need trevor if we expect to compete ...WOW...and @3peat ya thank god we came out of the draft with some extra cash.. |
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Post subject: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 01:57 AM PST
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| He needs to come back... really hard to replace Trevor. I don't think he'll lose his fire after signing the contract. He's a gamer. |
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Post subject: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 01:58 AM PST
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| tell u guys the truth i'm not that scared, because as they said on NBA TV, Trevor's value isn't that high outside of this Laker team. He's really important to us, but if you were to make his role bigger, i don't think he'd fare too well. He's not likely to recieve a 6+ mil per year offer from anyone IMO. anything less, we should afford. His agent is just trying to keep the Laker FO alert, and IMO, its a weak attempt. The real scare is when u hear about serious interest from another team. |
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Post subject: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 02:12 AM PST
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| Damned agents care more about their commission than the teams or the players they represent. I say kick 'em to the curb... |
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Post subject: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 02:13 AM PST
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Good point 3peat. I think that's exactly what Mitch was thinking when he gave away our picks for cash. Luckily, I think our FO is smarter than most of the other ones in the league. Look at the Warriors. Gave away Pietrus and Barnes, who both became coveted players on much better teams, and overpaid for Maggette and Turiaf.
If all goes well, we'll see our same team together again next year. Maybe with an upgrade or two (cough cough Farmar's gone cough cough). |
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Post subject: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 02:15 AM PST
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| @ Harry- I think that trevor would still thrive . he has developed a solid jumpshot and can slash and play D, who couldnt implement a player with that skill-set into an important role.. but regarding teams paying him more money. remember we all thought the same thing about ronnie turiaf. and he got taken away. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 02:31 AM PST
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LAKERZ_DYNASTY101 wrote:
@ Harry- I think that trevor would still thrive . he has developed a solid jumpshot and can slash and play D, who couldnt implement a player with that skill-set into an important role.. but regarding teams paying him more money. remember we all thought the same thing about ronnie turiaf. and he got taken away.
I totally agree. Trevor has learned some new tricks as a Laker (unlike with NY and ORL). And he has been recognized by alot of people during the playoffs, especially how he helped us close it out in game 5. Hopefully, GMs will sleep on him and not throw alot of money at him. If Ronny got money, I'm sure Detroit or some team will offer him something significant... that's scary. We really need him here. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 03:04 AM PST
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| ^^^^good points guys, Ronny wasn't really anything special, and they gave him a great offer, but somehow i don't see it hapenning again with Trevor, maybe because of this economic situation we're in. But it can def happen with Detroit. He deserves like 5-6 mil. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 03:22 AM PST
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 03:55 AM PST
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| I saw the title of this and it just made my stomach jump to my throat. Ugh. This agent of his sounds like a real jackass. Hopefully Ariza, who seems incredibly modest and intelligent for a young NBA player, realizes that rings are the most important and that he plays a crucial role on this team. To be a part of winning a championship is great..but to be apart of a repeat? well, that is even better. He has his whole career to earn more money (especially if he continues improving) but there's no guarantee that he'll ever be in another position to win a ring again. Some players go there whole careers without one. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 04:14 AM PST
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LAKERZ_DYNASTY101 wrote:
@ Harry- I think that trevor would still thrive . he has developed a solid jumpshot and can slash and play D, who couldnt implement a player with that skill-set into an important role.. but regarding teams paying him more money. remember we all thought the same thing about ronnie turiaf. and he got taken away.
I agree. Golden State lured Ronny away from us with a ridiculous offer. I fear another team will do the same with Trevor just to spite us. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 04:28 AM PST
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I would love Trevor to stay...as every Lakers fan would too of course. But the reality folks is that the NBA is a business. It's always been that way. Unfortunately LOYALTY, is quickly diminishing in this business. I hate to say it folks, but MONEY usually talks now a days, which is a shame.
Of course Ariza's agent will explore options with other teams. It's only natural, because he wants to see how the market is for his client. I'm sure Ariza has gotten a lot of attention during the season, and especially the playoffs where he helped us win our 15th NBA title.
Ariza has blossomed into a defensive specialist, and also now a 3-point threat. Teams will give this guy some cash...trust me. He's young, and he's now a champion, so he knows what it takes to win. Hopefully in the end, he won't ask for too much and stay with us....until then...we'll just have to wait and see. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 04:52 AM PST
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| thats what he tought about sashaaaaaaaaa....we need him back! lol but truelly truelly we need him and odom and maybe a young pointguard better than farmar...thats it just to have a chance to get back to the finals |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 07:35 AM PST
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 08:45 AM PST
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| Detroit, Portland and Toronto? Yeah he'll make his money BUT he won't see another championship on "either" of those teams for a very looooooong time. Hopefully Trevor has a good head on his shoulders and realizes that the Buss family will take care of him. He has a chance at being part of something very special, hopefully he will see the potential. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 09:15 AM PST
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| now dont you just hate paying bynum so much? |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 11:18 AM PST
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| If it weren't for paying a crappy Bynum we wouldnt be in this situation. His azz better produce next season for what we are paying him. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 11:27 AM PST
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| free agency starts tomorrow. interested to see if lakers sign ariza and odom this week. any longer signifies they weighing options. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 11:46 AM PST
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else.
The Agent receives about a 10% Commission on the total contract revenues. If I was an NBA player I would do the contract negotiations myself and tell the team, treat me right and we split the difference, 5% less for you, and 5% more for me. To hell with those parasites, the Sports Agents. Anybody that thinks that these guys are so many Jerry McGuires should have their heads examined. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 11:50 AM PST
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Tempy wrote:
now dont you just hate paying bynum so much?
Actually I hate paying Sasha and Walton so much more! |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 12:48 PM PST
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| If anyone earned a big contract, its Trevor. If the Lakers can't afford to keep both him and Lamar, its Mitch's fault. He should have known better than to sign Vujacic and Walton to those big contracts. Thank god he didn't match the offer for Turiaf or else this team would have really been screwed. As it stands, the Lakers should be able to keep either Ariza or Odom, which will keep the hopes of a repeat alive. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 01:10 PM PST
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Tempy wrote:
now dont you just hate paying bynum so much?
Bynum I dont mind because you cant teach or develop 7 feet, sasha and mitch kupchak will be the most likely reason trevor wont be in a Laker uniform next season. For all the credit mitch has recieved for putting together a championship team on his own, his decision to give sasha a 30 million dollar contract after one season of decent shooting should not be looked past upon. If I were Trevor I wouldnt take anything less than 8 million a season when sasha is getting around 5 and cant do anything positive for the Lakers and even if he is hitting wide open 3s thats all he can do where as trevor can do everything right now. Thats the cost of business for making a bone headed move like mitch did with sasha. |
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else.
The Agent receives about a 10% Commission on the total contract revenues. If I was an NBA player I would do the contract negotiations myself and tell the team, treat me right and we split the difference, 5% less for you, and 5% more for me. To hell with those parasites, the Sports Agents. Anybody that thinks that these guys are so many Jerry McGuires should have their heads examined.[/quot
Steve, don't blame the agent. If he does not take the stand he did then the Lakers FO would take advantage of his client. The Lakers could have signed him early and eliminated the big payoff but they chose not to extend now they need to pay more. Same for LO. The player still has the last say and if he wants to take less and stay with LA he can. The agents job is to negotiate offers for the client not to make the decision for them. Ronny could have taken less money to stay with LA and chose not to.
It will workout fine after the sabre rattling on both sides subsides and negotiations commence. I bet that Trevor signs with the Lakers on July 1. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 01:26 PM PST
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Steve, don't blame the agent. If he does not take the stand he did then the Lakers FO would take advantage of his client. The Lakers could have signed him early and eliminated the big payoff but they chose not to extend now they need to pay more. Same for LO. The player still has the last say and if he wants to take less and stay with LA he can. The agents job is to negotiate offers for the client not to make the decision for them. Ronny could have taken less money to stay with LA and chose not to.
It will workout fine after the sabre rattling on both sides subsides and negotiations commence. I bet that Trevor signs with the Lakers on July 1.
I don't buy that "the Lakers FO would take advantage of (Trevor)." It's not like they were going to pay him peanuts. Trevor was a major piece on a championship team and he would get a respectable deal from the Lakers organization, agent or no agent. These agents are scum because they contribute to driving up these already outrageous NBA salaries. These guys would still make plenty of money without the blood sucking agents. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Trevor Won't Accept Hometown Discout From Lakers
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 02:50 PM PST
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Ugh... Of course! David Lee again!!
Let remember this agent represented Bynum damn that guy how many David Lee are there in the world? |
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cuckooroller wrote:
lakerbloke wrote:
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else.
The Agent receives about a 10% Commission on the total contract revenues. If I was an NBA player I would do the contract negotiations myself and tell the team, treat me right and we split the difference, 5% less for you, and 5% more for me. To hell with those parasites, the Sports Agents. Anybody that thinks that these guys are so many Jerry McGuires should have their heads examined.[/quot
Steve, don't blame the agent. If he does not take the stand he did then the Lakers FO would take advantage of his client. The Lakers could have signed him early and eliminated the big payoff but they chose not to extend now they need to pay more. Same for LO. The player still has the last say and if he wants to take less and stay with LA he can. The agents job is to negotiate offers for the client not to make the decision for them. Ronny could have taken less money to stay with LA and chose not to.
It will workout fine after the sabre rattling on both sides subsides and negotiations commence. I bet that Trevor signs with the Lakers on July 1.
Marvin,
This is just in line with my way of doing things. I always cut out the middle men when I can, you know, the guys that are somehow trying to get a cut out of even letting us use our own money. An example, when I need to buy any big ticket item, first I shop around and compare same trademark, same model prices among stores, and every time I do I bargain with the sales people to see just how much they will come down. Then, I hardly ever buy anything using my credit cards. Why should I pay people approximately 18-20% interest so that I can use my own money? I buy just about everything in one cash payment. No financing, the thing is mine, and I don't have to worry about it ever again. I even buy cars after bargaining them down, and then I pay cash. I just hate debts, and I do not like middle-men getting in between what I need to buy, and for the pleasure of using my own money. They weren't there when I worked hard to earn the money, and so why should they get a cut? |
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lakerbloke wrote:
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else.
Lakers FO wouldn't take advantage of Trevor. He was a major part of this championship and they want to keep him.. He was due for a raise regardless of his agent "taking a stand." it's not the fact that he said he was going to look for a raise, its the fact that he's making it sound like Trevor is some big superstar player who should be getting 20 mill a year and being so rude about it. Let's be honest guys, Ariza isn't worth more than maybe 7 mill. And don't give me that "rings don't feed families." You gotta be joking dude. I mean, these guys make more money than most of us will see in a lifetime. He'll be just fine with 7mill a year, don't be ridiculous.. That isn't even a legit argument.
Since Ariza's agent said this and not he himself, I'm hoping that 1. Ariza doesn't all of a sudden get an ego and think he's worth like 12mill. And 2. LO is true to his word and will take a small paycut. But if Ariza wants to ask for so much money, he can go over to Detroit and never win another ring. |
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else.
Lakers FO wouldn't take advantage of Trevor. He was a major part of this championship and they want to keep him.. He was due for a raise regardless of his agent "taking a stand." it's not the fact that he said he was going to look for a raise, its the fact that he's making it sound like Trevor is some big superstar player who should be getting 20 mill a year and being so rude about it. Let's be honest guys, Ariza isn't worth more than maybe 7 mill. And don't give me that "rings don't feed families." You gotta be joking dude. I mean, these guys make more money than most of us will see in a lifetime. He'll be just fine with 7mill a year, don't be ridiculous.. That isn't even a legit argument.
Since Ariza's agent said this and not he himself, I'm hoping that 1. Ariza doesn't all of a sudden get an ego and think he's worth like 12mill. And 2. LO is true to his word and will take a small paycut. But if Ariza wants to ask for so much money, he can go over to Detroit and never win another ring.
Who are you to decide whether $7mill is enough for Ariza or not? you say his agent is a jackass, but the last time I checked, Ariza is the one who decides who he has, as an agent. He hired him because his job is to get as much money for his client at his desired locale.
By the way, the last time I checked, the only way a ring could feed a family is to take it down a pawn shop and get some money for it. Cold hard cash is what feeds famalies.
Like I said, Ariza has a figure in mind and if the Lakers don't come up with that figure, he is free to pursue his monetery goals somewhere else. |
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else.
Lakers FO wouldn't take advantage of Trevor. He was a major part of this championship and they want to keep him.. He was due for a raise regardless of his agent "taking a stand." it's not the fact that he said he was going to look for a raise, its the fact that he's making it sound like Trevor is some big superstar player who should be getting 20 mill a year and being so rude about it. Let's be honest guys, Ariza isn't worth more than maybe 7 mill. And don't give me that "rings don't feed families." You gotta be joking dude. I mean, these guys make more money than most of us will see in a lifetime. He'll be just fine with 7mill a year, don't be ridiculous.. That isn't even a legit argument.
Since Ariza's agent said this and not he himself, I'm hoping that 1. Ariza doesn't all of a sudden get an ego and think he's worth like 12mill. And 2. LO is true to his word and will take a small paycut. But if Ariza wants to ask for so much money, he can go over to Detroit and never win another ring.
Who are you to decide whether $7mill is enough for Ariza or not? you say his agent is a jackass, but the last time I checked, Ariza is the one who decides who he has, as an agent. He hired him because his job is to get as much money for his client at his desired locale.
By the way, the last time I checked, the only way a ring could feed a family is to take it down a pawn shop and get some money for it. Cold hard cash is what feeds famalies.
Like I said, Ariza has a figure in mind and if the Lakers don't come up with that figure, he is free to pursue his monetery goals somewhere else.
Now you're just getting ridiculous. The money any NBA player makes is a matter of greed, not "needing to feed their family." I guarantee you he won't have any trouble getting food on the table making what he does. My father has no trouble and we're a single income family and his job isn't exactly high paying. So like I said, it's a matter of greed. Not a matter of desperately trying to feed his family.
Ariza isn't worth more than 7 million. It's not a matter of "who am i to say that" it's a matter of being obvious. If he weasels more out of that than the Lakers than more power to him, but we have to worry about other players besides just Ariza. |
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SAMMi24 wrote:
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else.
Lakers FO wouldn't take advantage of Trevor. He was a major part of this championship and they want to keep him.. He was due for a raise regardless of his agent "taking a stand." it's not the fact that he said he was going to look for a raise, its the fact that he's making it sound like Trevor is some big superstar player who should be getting 20 mill a year and being so rude about it. Let's be honest guys, Ariza isn't worth more than maybe 7 mill. And don't give me that "rings don't feed families." You gotta be joking dude. I mean, these guys make more money than most of us will see in a lifetime. He'll be just fine with 7mill a year, don't be ridiculous.. That isn't even a legit argument.
Since Ariza's agent said this and not he himself, I'm hoping that 1. Ariza doesn't all of a sudden get an ego and think he's worth like 12mill. And 2. LO is true to his word and will take a small paycut. But if Ariza wants to ask for so much money, he can go over to Detroit and never win another ring.
Who are you to decide whether $7mill is enough for Ariza or not? you say his agent is a jackass, but the last time I checked, Ariza is the one who decides who he has, as an agent. He hired him because his job is to get as much money for his client at his desired locale.
By the way, the last time I checked, the only way a ring could feed a family is to take it down a pawn shop and get some money for it. Cold hard cash is what feeds famalies.
Like I said, Ariza has a figure in mind and if the Lakers don't come up with that figure, he is free to pursue his monetery goals somewhere else.
Now you're just getting ridiculous. The money any NBA player makes is a matter of greed, not "needing to feed their family." I guarantee you he won't have any trouble getting food on the table making what he does. My father has no trouble and we're a single income family and his job isn't exactly high paying. So like I said, it's a matter of greed. Not a matter of desperately trying to feed his family.
Ariza isn't worth more than 7 million. It's not a matter of "who am i to say that" it's a matter of being obvious. If he weasels more out of that than the Lakers than more power to him, but we have to worry about other players besides just Ariza.
Why am I being ridiculous? This is basic business - supply and demand. If someone is willing to pay ariza big bucks for him then he should consider going to that team especially if the lakers cannot offer him a similar amount. Yes, you are right that these athletes seem overpaid but if these teams are willing to pay for his services then so be it. I never said I agreed with it or not, but unfortunately, that is how the business is. After all, he hired an agent so he could get the deals he wanted.
Think of it this way Sammi, there is no way for anyone to predict what the future holds for any of us. Just look at Michael Jackson, his world abruptly ended last week and he squandered all the millions he made. Luckily, he still has enough in assests that his "kids" will be well looked after.
$7million sounds like a lot of money for people like me and you and the reason athletes make so much money is because they have relatively short careers, be it through injury, retirement or just the simple fact that they are no longer needed. Ariza's career could come to a crashing end in the next year and if he had taken the smaller contract, imagine he would never have the chance to do over again and make what he could have made. For him or anyone to cut themselves short of a payday is foolish.
I'm still at a loss as to why you say his agent is a jackass? Would he not be a Jackass had he came out and said Ariza loves his team so much he's willing to sign with us for less money? Honorable? Yes, Smart? No. |
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maraud wrote:
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else.
The Agent receives about a 10% Commission on the total contract revenues. If I was an NBA player I would do the contract negotiations myself and tell the team, treat me right and we split the difference, 5% less for you, and 5% more for me. To hell with those parasites, the Sports Agents. Anybody that thinks that these guys are so many Jerry McGuires should have their heads examined.[/quot
Steve, don't blame the agent. If he does not take the stand he did then the Lakers FO would take advantage of his client. The Lakers could have signed him early and eliminated the big payoff but they chose not to extend now they need to pay more. Same for LO. The player still has the last say and if he wants to take less and stay with LA he can. The agents job is to negotiate offers for the client not to make the decision for them. Ronny could have taken less money to stay with LA and chose not to.
It will workout fine after the sabre rattling on both sides subsides and negotiations commence. I bet that Trevor signs with the Lakers on July 1.
Marvin,
This is just in line with my way of doing things. I always cut out the middle men when I can, you know, the guys that are somehow trying to get a cut out of even letting us use our own money. An example, when I need to buy any big ticket item, first I shop around and compare same trademark, same model prices among stores, and every time I do I bargain with the sales people to see just how much they will come down. Then, I hardly ever buy anything using my credit cards. Why should I pay people approximately 18-20% interest so that I can use my own money? I buy just about everything in one cash payment. No financing, the thing is mine, and I don't have to worry about it ever again. I even buy cars after bargaining them down, and then I pay cash. I just hate debts, and I do not like middle-men getting in between what I need to buy, and for the pleasure of using my own money. They weren't there when I worked hard to earn the money, and so why should they get a cut?
Steve that is very commendable. I do use credit cards but pay them off within the 25 day period interest free. Agents are necessary when you are a big star making millions. Since the FO has a fleet of sleezy lawyers ( I think that is one word) who are good negotiators so you need to counter with your own sleezy lawyer so that you don't get screwed. The more sleeze you have the better off you are. You and I buy a car or TV once every few years but these players are signing multimillion contracts and they really need help. That is what I was really trying to say. By the way 10% is cheap and their services are TAX DEDUCTABLE. |
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Yes, I would say that "sleazy" is probably redundant. It is an intrinsic quality of the state of "lawyerness"! Satan's helpers are lawyers and politicians after all.
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lakerbloke wrote:
SAMMi24 wrote:
lakerbloke wrote:
SAMMi24 wrote:
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This agent of his sounds like a real jackass.
Why is he a Jackass for saying what he said? That's what he is paid for. If my agent went out and said I could be had for cheap, I'd fire him. This is, unfortunately the ugly side of business. After all, wouldn't you want to make as much money as you possibly could to support your family?? You think winning another championship will feed your family? Athletes generally have short careers, especially if they become injured and can never play again.
Look at the situation Yao Ming is in. He is obviously going to have a real short career, being plagued with injuries - and I'm not saying this is going to happen to Trevor, but imagine if he ever took a paycut because he thought he would win a title every year, only for your career to suddenly run into jeapordy.
If the Lakers want Trevor, they should pay him at least close to what he is asking for, or what other teams are asking for him. If not, good luck Trevor, go earn your big bucks somewhere else.
Lakers FO wouldn't take advantage of Trevor. He was a major part of this championship and they want to keep him.. He was due for a raise regardless of his agent "taking a stand." it's not the fact that he said he was going to look for a raise, its the fact that he's making it sound like Trevor is some big superstar player who should be getting 20 mill a year and being so rude about it. Let's be honest guys, Ariza isn't worth more than maybe 7 mill. And don't give me that "rings don't feed families." You gotta be joking dude. I mean, these guys make more money than most of us will see in a lifetime. He'll be just fine with 7mill a year, don't be ridiculous.. That isn't even a legit argument.
Since Ariza's agent said this and not he himself, I'm hoping that 1. Ariza doesn't all of a sudden get an ego and think he's worth like 12mill. And 2. LO is true to his word and will take a small paycut. But if Ariza wants to ask for so much money, he can go over to Detroit and never win another ring.
Who are you to decide whether $7mill is enough for Ariza or not? you say his agent is a jackass, but the last time I checked, Ariza is the one who decides who he has, as an agent. He hired him because his job is to get as much money for his client at his desired locale.
By the way, the last time I checked, the only way a ring could feed a family is to take it down a pawn shop and get some money for it. Cold hard cash is what feeds famalies.
Like I said, Ariza has a figure in mind and if the Lakers don't come up with that figure, he is free to pursue his monetery goals somewhere else.
Now you're just getting ridiculous. The money any NBA player makes is a matter of greed, not "needing to feed their family." I guarantee you he won't have any trouble getting food on the table making what he does. My father has no trouble and we're a single income family and his job isn't exactly high paying. So like I said, it's a matter of greed. Not a matter of desperately trying to feed his family.
Ariza isn't worth more than 7 million. It's not a matter of "who am i to say that" it's a matter of being obvious. If he weasels more out of that than the Lakers than more power to him, but we have to worry about other players besides just Ariza.
Why am I being ridiculous? This is basic business - supply and demand. If someone is willing to pay ariza big bucks for him then he should consider going to that team especially if the lakers cannot offer him a similar amount. Yes, you are right that these athletes seem overpaid but if these teams are willing to pay for his services then so be it. I never said I agreed with it or not, but unfortunately, that is how the business is. After all, he hired an agent so he could get the deals he wanted.
Think of it this way Sammi, there is no way for anyone to predict what the future holds for any of us. Just look at Michael Jackson, his world abruptly ended last week and he squandered all the millions he made. Luckily, he still has enough in assests that his "kids" will be well looked after.
$7million sounds like a lot of money for people like me and you and the reason athletes make so much money is because they have relatively short careers, be it through injury, retirement or just the simple fact that they are no longer needed. Ariza's career could come to a crashing end in the next year and if he had taken the smaller contract, imagine he would never have the chance to do over again and make what he could have made. For him or anyone to cut themselves short of a payday is foolish.
I'm still at a loss as to why you say his agent is a jackass? Would he not be a Jackass had he came out and said Ariza loves his team so much he's willing to sign with us for less money? Honorable? Yes, Smart? No.
His agent is a jackass because he's saying it like Ariza is the most important player on the team as though he should ask for some ridiculous amount of money. Yes, his agent wants his client to get as much as possible (for his own benefit, not trevors) but the way he's acting is that without trevor we will never win another championship. I do think he should get a nice raise, but they need to not go overboard. He's made some jerk comments regarding this situation and it really seems to me like he absolutely hates that Ariza wants to come back.
I get what you're saying, he has to get what he can while he's playing. But I simply disagree with you. to say it is to "feed the family" is absurd. If he were to have to go work a normal job, well, let me tell you.. He would survive! Lots of people don't make that much in a lifetime. These guys have so many ridiculous over the top luxuries in their life that it just makes me sick, so to hear anybody use that excuse as to why they are greedy and go after big bucks is ridiculous to me. Every player out their is, to an extent, too money hungry. |
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His agent is a jackass because he's saying it like Ariza is the most important player on the team as though he should ask for some ridiculous amount of money. Yes, his agent wants his client to get as much as possible (for his own benefit, not trevors) but the way he's acting is that without trevor we will never win another championship. I do think he should get a nice raise, but they need to not go overboard. He's made some jerk comments regarding this situation and it really seems to me like he absolutely hates that Ariza wants to come back.
I get what you're saying, he has to get what he can while he's playing. But I simply disagree with you. to say it is to "feed the family" is absurd. If he were to have to go work a normal job, well, let me tell you.. He would survive! Lots of people don't make that much in a lifetime. These guys have so many ridiculous over the top luxuries in their life that it just makes me sick, so to hear anybody use that excuse as to why they are greedy and go after big bucks is ridiculous to me. Every player out their is, to an extent, too money hungry.
Well, without it sounding like I'm beating a dead horse, but that's his agents job is to sell him. Remember last year when we lost to the Celtics, how everyone cried "if we had a healthy Bynum and a healthy Ariza, we would've won.." Well guess, what? Bynum called for a contract and he got it, now it's Trevors turn. You would hardly expect Ariza's agent to come out and say "well, he's ok, I mean he's no superstar or anything, but I think he deserves a decent raise...". His job is to sell him, make as much money for him as possible. Juggling the money amongst the team is Mitch's job. One could argue that Sasha is getting a contract that is not worthy of his play last year. Imagine his agent trying to get him a deal now....you really think he'd say well he had a crap year but I think the Lakers should still give him a decent contract...
Now about feeding the family.....you took that a little literally. Go ask your Dad why he works. Ask him if he could make as much money as possible versus making a little more than he could right now and he will probably tell you that in an ideal world, he would make as much money as possible to give you the best upbringing he possibly could. Is it gonna take $7million? probably not, but if someone were willing to pay him that much, you honestly think he would turn that down? My point being is, is that if a team is willing to pay him that much money, why would he take an offer that is considerably less? It may be that Ariza truly is happy where he is and will sacrafice the extra money he could make with another team to stay where he is, but as a breadwinner in my house, I know what option I would make if faced with a similar situation, because I would want the best for my wife and kids. And if I had someone trying to sell me to a company, I certainly would want him to "sell" me. |
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| I'm liking his agent...because his assumption of how much Ariza could make and how much value he has will make it easier for him to be resigned. Same thing happened with Bynum. Took forever to sign him, and thanks to his idiot agent, Bynum settled for about $3 million or less than the previous offer. This will definitely get worked out...trust me...no doubt in my mind. Ariza and Odom will stay Lakers...not sure about Shannon though but I'm pretty sure he'll stay too. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 03:09 AM PST
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Trevor has turned into a decent player and he will get paid. His agent is just doing everything he can to push the value up, which is what any "good" agent would do.
But if the market goes stark raving mad over Trevor, then the Lakers may have to let him go. Of course that would suck, but Trevor is not a franchise player either. He plays off of Kobe, and he would not be nearly as effective with another team on offense. His defense would be really hard to replace though. It is going to be interesting. IMO, Lamar is the one that is an absolute MUST to resign. Of course we want them both back. Time will tell. Here we go... |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 10:16 AM PST
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| Trevor stayed healthy last season, but all teams, including the Lakers will remember that he was injured alot before that. This will keep the number down. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 10:27 AM PST
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| Now it's Trevor following in his agents footsteps. "You have to be open to anything, it's a business, I have to do whats best for my family at this point." The Lakers are not going to like those comments. So much for team loyalty. If he's going shopping, then the Lakers are going to go shopping. And If Kobe is making the decision, Ron Artest will be a Laker before the end of the week. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 11:57 AM PST
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Mamba1024 wrote:
I'm liking his agent...because his assumption of how much Ariza could make and how much value he has will make it easier for him to be resigned. Same thing happened with Bynum. Took forever to sign him, and thanks to his idiot agent, Bynum settled for about $3 million or less than the previous offer. This will definitely get worked out...trust me...no doubt in my mind. Ariza and Odom will stay Lakers...not sure about Shannon though but I'm pretty sure he'll stay too.
wait a minute. Bynum settle for 3 million less?? wtf he's not even worth that, god damn. You mean we'd be overpaying him by more? that's crazy! |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2009 - 12:00 PM PST
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JamFan wrote:
Now it's Trevor following in his agents footsteps. "You have to be open to anything, it's a business, I have to do whats best for my family at this point." The Lakers are not going to like those comments. So much for team loyalty. If he's going shopping, then the Lakers are going to go shopping. And If Kobe is making the decision, Ron Artest will be a Laker before the end of the week.
If Kobe were the decision maker, i'd hate to say it but we'd be the okc thunder rite now but w/o a future.
Bynum would have gone for kidd. LO would have gone for JO and Kwame would have been traded for Caron Butler, oh wait that did happen. Lakers need to put Kobe in his place and keep him as far away from the fo as possible cuz our team would be screwed if it were up to his decision making.
Let Kobe play and don't take any advice as far as personnel decision from him cuz then your just f***ing with the team.
Great Player and all but horrible, i mean horrible decision making as far as personnel. He makes MJ look like Jerry West. |
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Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 11:25 PM PST
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We got an upgrade in Artest, AND FOR LESS MONEY!
THANK YOU, RONNIE FOR THE DISCOUNT.
Ariza, you screwed yourself out of a good position. You talked all that BS about being home and you like being here.
FIRE YOUR AGENT! He gave you some very bad advice.
ARTEST, ARTEST, ARTEST, ARTEST....... |
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