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 Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:03 PM PST
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yesss!
i am going to miss ariza
but his f*** agent wats more money
well ariza deserves it
i am glad ron ron accepts a cheaper contract
but we cannot get to excited until they said that artest signed a deal with the lakers
this just made my DAY! finally gettin artest
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| 3 years of Ron Artest. Let the games begin. I hope we don't regret this. Let's not get to excited. There' still a lot of work to do if the Lakers are going to keep Odom. |
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If this is true - I personal see this as a disaster for the Lakers. I was so grateful that Artest was not signed last year and went to the Rockets. My only hope is that this is just another silly rumor. Please - NO ARTEST!
And how sad for the Lakers family. That a warrior and nice young guy like Trevor would be "played" like that by the organization - and I am pointing my finger right at Kobe if this happens. This is some serious subterfuge.
Ariza isn't being "played" by anyone. His value is right where the lakers think it is. At the MLE. Put him on another team, he won't be as valuable. If anything, it is the lakers being played by his agent. There is a reason why other teams are only offering him only the MLE at most. If he feels it is a "slap in the face" by the lakers, then fine. Good luck to him.
Wow - how things change. One second you are stealing passes from Carmelo and becoming a hometown hero leading us to our 15th championship and being cheered on in the L.A. Coliseum by your name. And in a week or so people are meeting with another small forward and making you an offer they knew you would refuse.
All the time the leader (Kobe) is hugging on you during the parade - while the next week he is pushing for his friend Artest to come to the Lakers - to add to the insult that same leader is saying in public how he is SURE you will be back - if that is not being played then I don't know what is.
This is a sad day for the franchise.
Wasn't Ariza that guy who said he'd love to be back in LA, yet is playing hardball and acting like he's worth more than 6 mil? There are a LOT of people I would pay 6 mil for over Ariza, so he should be grateful he was given his chance. Talking to Cleveland for the same price as we offered him, and the organization is at fault? Riiiiiiiiight.
It was his dumbass Agent that said that not Ariza his agent screwed him nothing you can do about it. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:08 PM PST
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:08 PM PST
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| It's in LA times and ESPN already! |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:09 PM PST
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Now this has me believing Artest will be a Laker. I always liked Artest, hopefully he goes well with our team. Gonna miss Ariza though. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:11 PM PST
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time to change my damn avatar.
i bought a ariza jersey shirt last week
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:13 PM PST
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| Damn, sad day for Ariza. I can tell he really loved the Lakers and really wanted to be back, it sux his agent screwed him over. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:13 PM PST
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radicalp10 wrote:
embuen1991 wrote:
time to change my damn avatar.
i bought a ariza jersey shirt last week
wow i just wasted my money
D@MN... that sucks |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:14 PM PST
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CAN I HEAR A 82-0....................man i love ariza. but ron ron is a more consistent defender, and OFFENDER.. lol.
sign LO and we are good to GO. man now kobe doesnt have to owrk so hard. artest can guard peirce,james,melo,wade, even KG.
WOW LAKERS ARE TRUELY WERE AMAZING HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:15 PM PST
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| If you can get a Ron Artest for that kind of money then it is an absolute no brainer. It is the right thing to do. It makes sense now why Trevor was even considering teams that could only offer a midlevel exception. I was thinking something must have been hot with Artest for the Lakers to be playing it so cool. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:16 PM PST
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| Not only is our defense better but our offense just got a whole lot better also. Trevor only made wide open 3's and couldn't creat his own shot. But with Artest, he can create offense, shoot 3's (contested), and post up. If we get Odom back, our team is gonna be a lot better this upcoming season. Oh and also with a healthy Bynum. This will be fun |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:18 PM PST
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Wasn't Ariza that guy who said he'd love to be back in LA, yet is playing hardball and acting like he's worth more than 6 mil? There are a LOT of people I would pay 6 mil for over Ariza, so he should be grateful he was given his chance. Talking to Cleveland for the same price as we offered him, and the organization is at fault? Riiiiiiiiight.
MLE is $5.585 - the Lakers offered Trevor 5 million - knowing that he would see this as disrespect because they wouldn't even offer MLE - the organization knew all along they were going to court that psycho Artest - Dr. Buss meet with Artest and the article stated that even coach Jackson knew about this a week ago - before negotiations even started. There was never a plan to resign Trevor.
I will repeat - this a sad day for the franchise. In my 20+ years of being a Laker fan I have never seen some dirty, dirty @$$ $hit like this go down - especially on a player that was a KEY for us winning a championship. They had absolutely NO intention of signing this kid that has overcome so much to be in this spot today - and they throw him out like garbage.
It is sad also to realize how much the disgusting philosophy of Machiavelli has had a stronger influence on society then the Golden Rule.
If my basketball intuition is at all correct - I predict that the Lakers with Artest will NEVER win a championship because of this curse they have put upon their house. I have probably lost ten years off my life cheering for the Lakers and living and dying with every game - the joy and the heartache - with more heartache as any die hard fan can tell you - but if this is how the franchise is going to treat its players - then I hope whatever team Trevor ends up on will win the championship next year. Good luck Trevor - you are a great player and a very nice individual - sorry it had to end this way. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:18 PM PST
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| Artest is a 15/10 guy add that to Kobe and Gasol. I am shaking just typing this out. Ron Ron is as much the lock down defender Ariza is for less money than Ariza wants so we can go out and pick Lamar back up for maybe 8 maybe 9 mil oh dude! No one wants any part of that starting line up then we will have Lamar off the bench as 6th man and Farmar playing like his basketball career depends on it cuz it does in his contract year. There is no stopping us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Artest is a 15/10 guy add that to Kobe and Gasol. I am shaking just typing this out. Ron Ron is as much the lock down defender Ariza is for less money than Ariza wants so we can go out and pick Lamar back up for maybe 8 maybe 9 mil oh dude! No one wants any part of that starting line up then we will have Lamar off the bench as 6th man and Farmar playing like his basketball career depends on it cuz it does in his contract year. There is no stopping us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:20 PM PST
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| wow the times article is posted july 3 2009...futuristic |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:21 PM PST
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| I just hope the Lakers can sign Lamar now because the money simply isn't there. How can they pay him 8 to 10 million per year? That would put the Lakers at around 90 million in total team salary for the season. Dr. Buss won't pay that, right? |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:29 PM PST
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lakeshowsd wrote:
I just hope the Lakers can sign Lamar now because the money simply isn't there. How can they pay him 8 to 10 million per year? That would put the Lakers at around 90 million in total team salary for the season. Dr. Buss won't pay that, right?
I guess we will just wait and see what happens. In my opinion tho, they did this move because it was cheaper for them. And Artest is actually a better player. But I think they will be able to re sign Odom as well. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:29 PM PST
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4lakers wrote:
Kobe420 wrote:
Wasn't Ariza that guy who said he'd love to be back in LA, yet is playing hardball and acting like he's worth more than 6 mil? There are a LOT of people I would pay 6 mil for over Ariza, so he should be grateful he was given his chance. Talking to Cleveland for the same price as we offered him, and the organization is at fault? Riiiiiiiiight.
MLE is $5.585 - the Lakers offered Trevor 5 million - knowing that he would see this as disrespect because they wouldn't even offer MLE - the organization knew all along they were going to court that psycho Artest - Dr. Buss meet with Artest and the article stated that even coach Jackson knew about this a week ago - before negotiations even started. There was never a plan to resign Trevor.
I will repeat - this a sad day for the franchise. In my 20+ years of being a Laker fan I have never seen some dirty, dirty @$$ $hit like this go down - especially on a player that was a KEY for us winning a championship. They had absolutely NO intention of signing this kid that has overcome so much to be in this spot today - and they throw him out like garbage.
It is sad also to realize how much the disgusting philosophy of Machiavelli has had a stronger influence on society then the Golden Rule.
If my basketball intuition is at all correct - I predict that the Lakers with Artest will NEVER win a championship because of this curse they have put upon their house. I have probably lost ten years off my life cheering for the Lakers and living and dying with every game - the joy and the heartache - with more heartache as any die hard fan can tell you - but if this is how the franchise is going to treat its players - then I hope whatever team Trevor ends up on will win the championship next year. Good luck Trevor - you are a great player and a very nice individual - sorry it had to end this way.
4 Lakers how can you be mad at the lakers for not bringing back Ariza? Lakers tried to bring back ariza his Agent messed up not our fault we went to Plan B get Artest. Ariza should have taken it or leave it Saying that it is a sad day for the franchise is wrong because Lakers got a guy that can play offense and defense as well as Ariza not to mention cheap? like Stephen A smith said about the Gasol deal this is a beautiful deal haha. We will win the championship because like Fisher said we are still hungry. Don't get me wrong I love Ariza and I will miss his contribution I hope he win a championship wherever he goes but the bottomline is the NBA is a business. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:35 PM PST
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| 4lakers, what are u talking about? The lakers wouldn't offer him more than the MLE. But he didn't want the MLE. Either way, it doesn't matter anymore. Hope Trevor enjoyed his short stint in L.A., and good luck to him wherever he goes. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:39 PM PST
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| With Kobe, Pau, Drew, Artest and hopefully Odom we will be scary good. Look for us to hold teams under 95 PPG next year with Bynum patrolling in the paint and Ron and Kobe controlling the perimeter. The little pesky PGs will be the only ones going off against us. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:40 PM PST
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Trevor has pretty much officially dropped to one of my least favorite players in the league. Hate to see him go out this way with pretty much no class, because I thought he was a humble guy..He starts hitting three's (thanks to Kobe and co, of course) and suddenly thinks he's worth 7-9 mill? That's a joke, I'm sorry. The funny thing is, Artest is the one who's worth that, but he's not demanding it. Hell, he said he wants to play for us so badly he'd come ball for free. It's a real a****** move if Ariza goes to Cleveland for no more than Lakers offered.
Great move by LA to get Artest since Ariza is being a biitch. On paper, Artest is an obvious upgrade. I can't lie and say it doesn't worry me however. I'd rather have Ariza, who has proven to fit in extremely well in LA. I just hope Artest can keep his attitude and his insane-ness in check... If he is able to do that, the Lakers are in good shape. I mean, you can't fault LA for this. They had plan a to get Ariza. He didn't want to come back, so they went for the next best thing. Ariza's agent really effed him over on this one. He should have just taken the MLE. |
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| LAkers are back init for a repeat good job Lakers fron Office |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 08:42 PM PST
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| Don't be too hard on 4Lakers. You have to realize that there will be fans who are bitter about how this whole thing went down. It does seem rather convenient that Artest appears to be so easily signed not long after Trevor walks away from the negotiating table. I'll admit that the team never really had intentions to re-sign Ariza, knowing that he wouldn't take a mid-level deal. Where you stand on the moral scale for this kind of sneaky, underhanded way of dealing is really up to you. I'm not surprised there are Laker fans who do not like it, especially after winning a championship. This shows absolutely no loyalty or appreciation to a guy like Trevor, who was instrumental in the Lakers winning a championship. Still, Artest is friggin GOOD, so I'm not too mad about it. |
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| Ariza could still be a Laker if he takes the initial offer. He could go back to coming off the bench where he seemed to be more comfortable anyway and we could find a way to unload Walton and Morrison. If he holds out for the big bucks then he is gone. |
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| You can't blame Ariza. He's trying to take care of his family. If he can get 8-10 mil a season good for him and his agent did a great job. You have to take that money. 3 million more a year is a lot of money. He's still very young to and with his playoff performance he earned the right to get paid that much. The thing that would get me mad is if he signs with another team for the MLE |
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| I dont think there will be too many cheap shots on Kobe for the next 3 years. Not with an enforcer like Ron Ron. |
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| ^ I don't see it that way. The Lakers offered what he was worth and he demanded more. How is that their fault?? |
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| I hope SHEED dosent sign with the Celtics |
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| Bynum has shown signs of that enforcer mentality also so look at. Never again will our toughness be questioned. |
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| Was it really under handed negotiation? I think 6 mil a year for Artest is pretty good. Who knows what Ariza though the he was worth. This may just be a case of thinking you are worth more than you actually are on his part. I guess Mitch say thansk but no thanks to his agent... I'm torn on artest however...3 years of him....Gid help us all... |
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Drewballer93 wrote:
You can't blame Ariza. He's trying to take care of his family. If he can get 8-10 mil a season good for him and his agent did a great job. You have to take that money. 3 million more a year is a lot of money. He's still very young to and with his playoff performance he earned the right to get paid that much. The thing that would get me mad is if he signs with another team for the MLE
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You can't blame Ariza. He's trying to take care of his family. If he can get 8-10 mil a season good for him and his agent did a great job. You have to take that money. 3 million more a year is a lot of money. He's still very young to and with his playoff performance he earned the right to get paid that much. The thing that would get me mad is if he signs with another team for the MLE
How did his agent do a great job if he hasn't even signed a deal yet?
I meant to put THEN his agent did a great job. And if he can get 9 mil a season don't you think his agent would have done a great job |
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Hey everyone. Not my first post, but I forgot my password, and for some reason, I never received the code via email. Anyhow, I used to post under Ois310, but not much, and not in a while. I'm an Orthopaedic Surgery resident, in NYC, but have been a Lakers fan since I was born. Coincidentally, I also went to college with Ron Ron, and played against Kobe in high school, so I'm thrilled about the move. Now my quick analysis of what this means:
What we gain: Artest's slightly superior defense. His ability to create his own shot. His TOUGHNESS!!!
What we lose: Ariza's athleticism. His NEWFOUND ability to hit the open 3.
Now, I was actually friends with Ron in college. My best friend in college walked onto the St. John's team, and was best friends with Ron during their playing days. I can tell you this. Out of all the athletes on the team, the only ones without an ego (and who were nice to everyone) were Ron Artest, and Lavor Postell. Coincidentally, they were the 2 best players we had. That being said, I am not worried about Ron's "baggage" and his effect in the locker room... especially if Phil comes back. I know him as a person. Most of you know him because of his NBA reputation. If you watch his interviews after games during the Rockets series, you'll see a funny, calm Artest.
I've read posts on here saying he disappeared during the Rockets/Lakers series. But ask yourself this: Did he disappear? Or, did we make him disappear? Because it's not like he had Kobe, Pau, Bynum, LO, Fish, etc. to pick up the slack and draw defenders. He was Houston's primary option, and I think we took him out of the game. So it's unfair to say he disappeared during the playoffs, while Ariza didn't. Ariza was, at best, a tertiary offensive option. Don't get me wrong, I am thankful to have watched, and cheered Trevor. But, I think, if we sign LO, we've upgraded to the point that the Bulls record for wins is in jeopardy, AND, the starting unit won't have to play in many 4th quarters next season. I think Trevor deserves more money than Luke and Sasha, but I don't think that we should be held at gunpoint because we overpaid those two. So if we can get Ron for less than, or even the same price as Trevor, I say we move forward without him. Thank you Trevor for all you've done. And good luck in the future... but not against the LA Laker juggernaut.
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| I'm sure the Lakers front office would love to see the look on Ariza agent's face when it was released that they are gonna sign Artest. Ariza's agent played a game of "chicken" and lost. I mean seriously.....why would Ariza want to go play somewhere else for the same amount money? He's from LA and they just won the champioship. |
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| Is this a 3 or a 5 year deal for Ron Ron??? |
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Is this a 3 or a 5 year deal for Ron Ron???
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Drewballer93 wrote:
You can't blame Ariza. He's trying to take care of his family. If he can get 8-10 mil a season good for him and his agent did a great job. You have to take that money. 3 million more a year is a lot of money. He's still very young to and with his playoff performance he earned the right to get paid that much. The thing that would get me mad is if he signs with another team for the MLE
Did I miss the part where Trevor signed an 8-10 mil dollar deal? His agent obviously isn't doing a very good job since the other places he has talked to haven't offered him any more than the Lakers have. He should have taken the MLE with the lakers. My opinion is that Ariza will sign with Cleveland for the MLE... if he ends up leaving for more money, well I'll be upset at the situation but not him. If he leaves for the MLE, I could give a care less about him. That's just a dirty move by him- NOT by LA. |
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Eyas310 wrote:
Hey everyone. Not my first post, but I forgot my password, and for some reason, I never received the code via email. Anyhow, I used to post under Ois310, but not much, and not in a while. I'm an Orthopaedic Surgery resident, in NYC, but have been a Lakers fan since I was born. Coincidentally, I also went to college with Ron Ron, and played against Kobe in high school, so I'm thrilled about the move. Now my quick analysis of what this means:
What we gain: Artest's slightly superior defense. His ability to create his own shot. His TOUGHNESS!!!
What we lose: Ariza's athleticism. His NEWFOUND ability to hit the open 3.
Now, I was actually friends with Ron in college. My best friend in college walked onto the St. John's team, and was best friends with Ron during their playing days. I can tell you this. Out of all the athletes on the team, the only ones without an ego (and who were nice to everyone) were Ron Artest, and Lavor Postell. Coincidentally, they were the 2 best players we had. That being said, I am not worried about Ron's "baggage" and his effect in the locker room... especially if Phil comes back. I know him as a person. Most of you know him because of his NBA reputation. If you watch his interviews after games during the Rockets series, you'll see a funny, calm Artest.
I've read posts on here saying he disappeared during the Rockets/Lakers series. But ask yourself this: Did he disappear? Or, did we make him disappear? Because it's not like he had Kobe, Pau, Bynum, LO, Fish, etc. to pick up the slack and draw defenders. He was Houston's primary option, and I think we took him out of the game. So it's unfair to say he disappeared during the playoffs, while Ariza didn't. Ariza was, at best, a tertiary offensive option. Don't get me wrong, I am thankful to have watched, and cheered Trevor. But, I think, if we sign LO, we've upgraded to the point that the Bulls record for wins is in jeopardy, AND, the starting unit won't have to play in many 4th quarters next season. I think Trevor deserves more money than Luke and Sasha, but I don't think that we should be held at gunpoint because we overpaid those two. So if we can get Ron for less than, or even the same price as Trevor, I say we move forward without him. Thank you Trevor for all you've done. And good luck in the future... but not against the LA Laker juggernaut.
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Great post. Wow, you were friends with Ron and he was a good character guy in college? Awesome. I feel better about him coming to the Lakers now, and I'm also optimistic about it since he didn't have any problems in Sacramento and Houston. |
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| Gotta agree with Sammi and Smushsucks here, Ariza's agent dropped the ball and now it kind of blew up in his face. I wonder how pissed Ariza is at his agent now. |
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How does this look?
LMAO! It looks like Artest didn't like Fisher's joke! haha. Dang, Artest looks skinny. LOL! |
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Kobe420 wrote:
Wasn't Ariza that guy who said he'd love to be back in LA, yet is playing hardball and acting like he's worth more than 6 mil? There are a LOT of people I would pay 6 mil for over Ariza, so he should be grateful he was given his chance. Talking to Cleveland for the same price as we offered him, and the organization is at fault? Riiiiiiiiight.
MLE is $5.585 - the Lakers offered Trevor 5 million - knowing that he would see this as disrespect because they wouldn't even offer MLE - the organization knew all along they were going to court that psycho Artest - Dr. Buss meet with Artest and the article stated that even coach Jackson knew about this a week ago - before negotiations even started. There was never a plan to resign Trevor.
I will repeat - this a sad day for the franchise. In my 20+ years of being a Laker fan I have never seen some dirty, dirty @$$ $hit like this go down - especially on a player that was a KEY for us winning a championship. They had absolutely NO intention of signing this kid that has overcome so much to be in this spot today - and they throw him out like garbage.
Did the Lakers owe him something? I don't understand how this is 'dirty.' Remember last year how valuable Vujacic was? How much the Lakers paid him and what we got in return.
Yeah Ariza was an important key to our Championship but he was just ONE piece of the greater puzzle that helped us get there. Lakers probably had an idea how much he wanted early on from Ariza's agent and just decided to start finding another option. It is business, it isn't dirty. |
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Once again...let me say this...The NBA is a BUSINESS!
Don't blame the front office too much. They only have x-amount of money to spend currently for the team that we have now, and the team we will have in the future.
Ariza's agent wanted more than the MLE. Of course that understandable because I think Ariza deserves it. Other teams are willing to give him more money and at least 5 yrs. The Lakers didn't want to give him more than 5 mil. But the agent is only doing his job and trying to get the max contract for his client. I really will miss Trevor. One of my favs, but they, he's trying to take care of his family.
In return we get Ron Artest. Great defender and scorer as well. Obviously older than Ariza, but can still play the game. I won't be surprised if Houston signs Ariza, because Artest will sign with the Lakers. |
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Read the Bottom Ariza said he understand it a business
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lak ... 2019.story |
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ARTEST!!!
Honestly, I really wanted to resign Ariza. But due to his stupid agent wanting us to overpay for him, he lost his chance. I mean, we could still resign him, if he takes the original offer. I wish he would, but it doesn't look too good.
We must resign Odom. Give him 8 - 10 Mil.
Artest didn't really care about the money, as you can see he would be getting a paycut. BUT he signs cheaper, because he wants the ring. I am very happy about him signing with us.
Now, resign Odom and Brown. Also, if Ariza wants to win more championship, agree to our offer, and he and Odom can come off the bench for us. |
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| OMFGG...i have been waiting for so long for artest to come to the lakers...im almost crying haah jk..but seriously lmao |
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