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 Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:01 PM PST
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Lakers_4_Lyfe_BayBay wrote:
ARTEST!!!
Honestly, I really wanted to resign Ariza. But due to his stupid agent wanting us to overpay for him, he lost his chance. I mean, we could still resign him, if he takes the original offer. I wish he would, but it doesn't look too good.
We must resign Odom. Give him 8 - 10 Mil.
Artest didn't really care about the money, as you can see he would be getting a paycut. BUT he signs cheaper, because he wants the ring. I am very happy about him signing with us.
Now, resign Odom and Brown. Also, if Ariza wants to win more championship, agree to our offer, and he and Odom can come off the bench for us.
Nice to see you on here again Bay Bay, Happy birthday. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:03 PM PST
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| Guys you think that if we sign Artest we can sign Odom to?? becuase we need Odom so much! |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:03 PM PST
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| I think Ariza will sign with Houston or Cleveland. My gut feeling. He actually has a better chance of returning to the Finals if he plays with Cleveland. The only contenders they have in the East are Boston and Orlando. If he signs with Houston, he won't get back for awhile. Remember folks...Yao's unfortunate injury is career ending. So sad. They don't have enough fire power with Artest now leaving to L.A. and Yao being out for prob the season or two. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:04 PM PST
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| I'm pretty sure Odom will re-sign. This is gonna be a killer line up.... |
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lakeshowsd wrote:
Don't be too hard on 4Lakers. You have to realize that there will be fans who are bitter about how this whole thing went down. It does seem rather convenient that Artest appears to be so easily signed not long after Trevor walks away from the negotiating table. I'll admit that the team never really had intentions to re-sign Ariza, knowing that he wouldn't take a mid-level deal. Where you stand on the moral scale for this kind of sneaky, underhanded way of dealing is really up to you. I'm not surprised there are Laker fans who do not like it, especially after winning a championship. This shows absolutely no loyalty or appreciation to a guy like Trevor, who was instrumental in the Lakers win a championship. Still, Artest is friggin GOOD, so I'm not too mad about it.
Now that is a fair assessment. I tried to rep you, but there is something wrong with the site or something. Anyway - you are correct - there are those that will see this as a great thing and others like myself that will not - but I appreciate your logical approach.
I simply see this deal as incredibly foul. Before Trevor or his agent or whomever even CAME to the bargaining table - the Lakers ONE WEEK before-hand knew - absolutely KNEW that they would get Artest. Then they played this charade of offering him 5 million dollars - KNOWING that his agent (who is doing his job) would look at them like they are nuts. What else was Trevor going to do - he and his agent could smell the odor coming off this backstabbing tactic.
It's incredible that "fans" who were SINGING Trevor's praises a week ago - are now calling him all the nastiest names in the book. Did we forget those incredible playoffs he had for us. Ah - the steals against Denver - ah - anyone remember that? The run stopping three's he sank at over a 40% clip against the Magic - anyone out there remember? No - nothing? Not one? Remember the parade - the crowd cheering for him - no - doesn't ring any bells?
This was a rotten stinking way to treat such a valuable member of a championship team - and please no more with the agents fault or that Trevor was asking too much - the Lakers already HAD Artest in the bag and were simply playing Trevor - dirty pool plain and simple. And there is an antiquated term that has dropped out of fashion in this brave new world - it was called LOYALTY - I know this is a word that causes most to snicker at now - but at one time if a guy helps you to achieve something - like - I don't know.......an NBA Championship - you didn't double cross him and stab him in the back like this.
And all the time Kobe is negotiating to get $30 million dollars an f'ing year and Trevor was suppose to do what? - play for league minimum and like it? No way - this is total Bull$hit. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:04 PM PST
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noam57 wrote:
Guys you think that if we sign Artest we can sign Odom to?? becuase we need Odom so much!
I pray that we can, didn't we only sign Artest for the MLE? I hope Mitch didn't tell that draft pick for nothing if we can't get Odom. |
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| Note to Ariza and Agent Lee: In case you haven't noticed, we are in a recession. Teams are making moves to cut salary. The Lakers are already way over the cap. If you are the Lakers, who would you sign in these economic times: A lockdown defender and borderline All Star in Artest so anxious to play in LA that he claims he would play for free and one willing to take a paycut to come here or a youngster with an arrogant agent trying to hold out for a huge pay raise. Ariza and Lee really misread the market on this one and it might cost Ariza his purple and gold. |
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4lakers wrote:
Now that is a fair assessment. I tried to rep you, but there is something wrong with the site or something.
Probably severe lag due to the flood of people checking up on the news. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:06 PM PST
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| there is no way they will go after Ariza now. They went after Artest because he was their plan B. I think they are more focused on Odom and Brown. Ariza's agent screwed him over on this one. I really believe Trevor wanted to stay with the lakers. It isn't like any good team is going to offer him a large amount of money. Maybe Portland, but they want Turkoglu more. If I were Ariza, I would fire that guy David Lee right this minute. He sucks at negotiating. It is twice he has lost with the same team. Last year with Bynum when he wanted 5 years 75 million, and this year when he tried to get the lakers to squeeze out more cash. Hire a guy like Pelinka or Tellem, who actually knows what he is doing. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:06 PM PST
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The Lakers had to make a move, and it was Ariza's agent that forced it.
The PUBLIC negotiating started on Wednesday, but there is always unofficial negotiating before that. Trevors Agent made it clear to the Lakers before Wed. that he wanted more than the MLE, you can count on that.
The Lakers simply made the official offer, and then the agent publicly declined it and made it a personal matter. Like some one said, he played chicken and lost.
He lost because he probably didn't put into his equasion that the Lakers could, OMG, sign someone else.
Rather than play games, the Lakers did the right thing and signed a player before he was swept up by someone else.
Ariza's agent felt the Lakers needed Trevor, more than Trevor needed the Lakers. He could not be more wrong with someone like Artest ready to sign. And really what SF would not want to come play for a Championship team, and live in sunny LA?
I will definitely miss Trevor, and I would not be surprised if they get him back via trade in a few years.
As for Artest. I'm Luke warm about it.
I have to admit, as dirty as he was against Kobe, he has toned down since the jumping in the crowd days. With Kobe there, and Phil there I have more confidence that he can be harnessed like Rodman. Someone like Artest could actually benefit in a big way from Phil, learning how to channel his energy into positives.
I will always remember Trevors steals in teh Playoffs. In some way, it's kind of nice to have those be unique special Lakers moments.
Good luck trevor. Go get that money man! |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:07 PM PST
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if we can get Odom to! then we are unbeatable!!!
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OMG!!! Look at the starting 5!! amazing and LO from the bench simply amazing! |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:09 PM PST
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Note to Ariza and Agent Lee: In case you haven't noticed, we are in a recession. Teams are making moves to cut salary. The Lakers are already way over the cap. If you are the Lakers, who would you sign in these economic times: A lockdown defender and borderline All Star in Artest so anxious to play in LA that he claims he would play for free and one willing to take a paycut to come here or a youngster with an arrogant agent trying to hold out for a huge pay raise. Ariza and Lee really misread the market on this one and it might cost Ariza his purple and gold.
You really can't blame the agent for trying to do his job. What if they had agreed to giving him a little more? What if Hedo had accepted the $35mill he was offered at Orlando and not the $60 he is about to get at Portland? What if Ben Gordon had accepted his $50 mill deal at Chicago, but now gets $55mill? |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:09 PM PST
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| Also, Kobe is 31 and wants more rings NOW while he is in his prime. If we can get a big time player like Artest for that bargain price, you have to do it. I still feel there would be a place for Ariza on this team in his backup role that he seemed more cofortable in anyway. I don't think signing Artest at a bargain price automatically kicks Ariza off the team. He still has a choice. |
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Chris Broussard just said that the Lakers had a great chance to repeat before this signing, but "will almost certainly do so now".
Anyway, if the Lakers knew that they could nab Artest for the MLE, and that Ariza would want more than the MLE, why wouldn't they take Artest? He's just a better asset. Better player, and also cheaper. He can alleviate some of the offensive burden Kobe has, and that's really nice because Kobe's getting up there in age, the less energy he has to exert, the better off the franchise is.
As for Ariza, I'm pretty indifferent. I don't have any real ill will towards him, but I also don't feel bad for him. He could've just taken that MLE valued offer from Los Angeles, and stayed here if he'd really wanted to, instead, he's just going to end up taking an MLE valued offer from some other team. So, what exactly did he gain by refusing that initial offer? |
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| Yeah, I'd fire my Agent if I was Trevor. How stupid will Trevor's agent look when Trevor can't get a better deal elsewhere? I'd fire his @ss. |
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Lakers_4_Lyfe_BayBay wrote:
ARTEST!!!
Honestly, I really wanted to resign Ariza. But due to his stupid agent wanting us to overpay for him, he lost his chance. I mean, we could still resign him, if he takes the original offer. I wish he would, but it doesn't look too good.
We must resign Odom. Give him 8 - 10 Mil.
Artest didn't really care about the money, as you can see he would be getting a paycut. BUT he signs cheaper, because he wants the ring. I am very happy about him signing with us.
Now, resign Odom and Brown. Also, if Ariza wants to win more championship, agree to our offer, and he and Odom can come off the bench for us.
Nice to see you on here again Bay Bay, Happy birthday.
Thanks, much appreciated.
Great to be back, as well. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:24 PM PST
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| Ariza is going to find out it is a lot harder to score when his man is guarding him and not guarding Kobe Bryant. |
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Hang on guys!!!! WASN'T THIS ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN??
A year ago, a large majority of you LTB-ers were clamoring for the Lakers to trade Lamar Odom to the Kings for Artest because you all said we needed more toughness and another perimeter scorer to spell Kobe. I didn't disagree that Artest would be a great addition, but not at the cost of loosing Lamar.
The Lakers understandably didn't want to mess with loosing our depth and size, not to mention chemistry by loosing Lamar.
Remember, Trevor was coming off the bench to start the season and didn't even want to be a starter! The fact that he blossomed the second half of the season was truly a blessing, but I will tell you this...HE AIN'T NO RON ARTEST and HE AIN'T WORTH 8 MILLION A SEASON!
I really honestly think that it was always the Lakers intention to let Artest's contract play out with Houston and then sign him this offseason.
So now there is a chance that we will get to have both Lamar AND Artest...SO WHAT THE HECK ARE SOME OF YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT?! We just improved our team significantly!! Remember this as well, Lamar Odom and Ron Artest are childhood friends and Kobe is close with him too, so I really do not see a problem with chemistry at all. |
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The only way Ariza saves face is by signing for more than the MLE. He and his agent are gonna look foolish if that's all he gets. He's from LA and just won the title! Why leave for the same money? Lame thinking
Also, I see some comments about the Lakers not being loyal or straight up with Ariza in negotiations.....What if the Lakers would rather have Artest than Ariza? Are they supposed to sign Ariza and ignore the availabilty of a better player for possibly cheaper money? Also lame thinking |
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This is good news guys...We are definitely better with Artest...Hopefully, this will convince Phil to return next season as well...
With regards to Ariza, I think he has a bad agent...I just wished they did not go and involved the media during his contract negotiation....If they are unhappy with the Laker offer come talk it quietly with Mitch and with the other teams...not shouting it loud with the press...Because of this Ariza have made some serious problem with Lakers and the fans....But still I hope Kobe or Fish will step-in and talk to Ariza about taking the MLE....especially now that we will add Artest.....
Imagine if we have Artest, Ariza and Lamar in our team. But for now its still wishful thinking..
Well I hope Lamar's negotiation will be smoother... |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:30 PM PST
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I will repeat - this a sad day for the franchise. In my 20+ years of being a Laker fan I have never seen some dirty, dirty @$$ $hit like this go down - especially on a player that was a KEY for us winning a championship. They had absolutely NO intention of signing this kid that has overcome so much to be in this spot today - and they throw him out like garbage.
4Lakers,
Why would LA run the risk of Trevor accepting an offer if they had no intention to re-sign him? The offer was there but Ariza thought the offer was not good enough. Ariza should realize that there are other free agents out there who are willing to play for the Lakers for the same or similar money. I don't blame Ariza for wanting more money, like you said, he was a key for us to winning a championship. Obviously Trevor thought that meant he would get a better offer than any other team would have offered him. Ron on an individual basis is clearly an upgrade from Ariza and has tons more experience. If we were the favourites to win in 2009/2010 with Ariza, barring any chemistry issues, this should leave no doubt that we will win again next year. |
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| With Artest in, i want to say see yall at the colliseum next june! |
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| Now just add Lamar and OMFG! Juggernaut! Dynasty! Every loss will look like a complete catastrophe. Whoa what happened! The Lakers cant lose....... |
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| I think the Lakers have finally learned that you can't risk one stellar performance year and dump tons of money on a player that shined for ONE year. Sasha and Luke are prime examples of the worthless carcass that the Lakers are stuck with. Thank goodness there is an NBA God that knows Mitch Kupcheck and laid Gasol and now Artest at the Lakers doorstep! |
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| Could you guys imagine if Ariza doesn't get a better offer and comes back off the bench? Oh man, we would be guaranteed championships. Man, after thinking about it, I think Ariza really got played by his agent's own greed. I wanted to keep Ariza so badly, I'm so sad that he's not gonna be here anymore. he just fit in LA- it was the right place for him. I'm worried Artest is gonna cop attitude on the team... |
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4lakers wrote:
If this is true - I personal see this as a disaster for the Lakers. I was so grateful that Artest was not signed last year and went to the Rockets. My only hope is that this is just another silly rumor. Please - NO ARTEST!
And how sad for the Lakers family. That a warrior and nice young guy like Trevor would be "played" like that by the organization - and I am pointing my finger right at Kobe if this happens. This is some serious subterfuge.
Ariza isn't being "played" by anyone. His value is right where the lakers think it is. At the MLE. Put him on another team, he won't be as valuable. If anything, it is the lakers being played by his agent. There is a reason why other teams are only offering him only the MLE at most. If he feels it is a "slap in the face" by the lakers, then fine. Good luck to him.
For me, it's no comment.
It's business and that's that.
I have to say, if this is true that we're replacing Ariza with Artest, well, then I wish the best for Trevor as well. I liked him a lot and I hope there won't be any hard feelings between our team and him.
I agree with you Mambamonk87. I implore our fellow members who are bitter with Trevor (understandbly) to forgive him. He did a lot for the team last season and I for one is grateful that he was part of the team that won another championship for us. Let us remember that ultimately, the NBA is a business and it's players are professionals. I wish Trevor well whatever his decision will be. And I believe Ron will be a more than enough compensation if Trevor does leave us.  |
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| I agree about the ariza situation.. I personally would just like to say that ariza thank you for all the things that you did for the lakers this season, and for bringing energy and hustle every single game.... good luck to you in your future.. I wish you the best. |
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I think the Lakers have finally learned that you can't risk one stellar performance year and dump tons of money on a player that shined for ONE year. Sasha and Luke are prime examples of the worthless carcass that the Lakers are stuck with. Thank goodness there is an NBA God that knows Mitch Kupcheck and laid Gasol and now Artest at the Lakers doorstep!
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| SO is it official? Artest is in? Ariza is out? Me I've always held the opinion I'd rather save some money and move Odom out and keep Ariza. We're gonna have too many bigs now if Odom stays. We needed a young energy guy. Any chance this could still happen? |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:48 PM PST
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| I'm chewing my fingernails here guys...someone relieve the tension and tell me what's going on? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| Hell yeah. Artest is the key to next years championship. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:50 PM PST
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| The most important man on the Lakers now is the trainer. He must keep a supply of Lithium on hand both at Staples and at away games in case RonRon forgets his. |
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If Ariza gets more than the MLE, then he is the winner. if he doesnt, its basically pie in his face pretty much. Lets see how see does when he isnt shooting those wide open 3's or have people double teamming 3 other players.
Its going to be kinda funny, because teams wont give ariza more than the MLE... he shoulda just stayed...great move Mitch.. Ariza couldnt defend artest anyway..artest a more physical defender for LBJ and carmelo. watch out league |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:54 PM PST
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| we have to look at things in each persons perspective, buss and mitch know they cant keep offering big deals for players who play well in the contract year (take note farmar), ariza played as well as we could have ever dreamed of and this is the chance of his big pay day, regardless that its a recession he wants to get the money while he can and who else wouldnt do the same i know i would. Arizas agent tried to get big bucks ala as he did with bynum. In my opinion this makes mitch 1 david lee 1. We clearly have a better player in artest other than being an absolute physcho there is not one area you can say ariza is better than. (ok, maybe age lol) I have to absolutely agree this is great for the lakers that we have another player who can create for himself which is going to kill teams when they double kobe. Oh and the fact we get killed by every sf in the league is now going to be a thing of the past. So long as we sign odom i am very very happy. I would have liked us to go after gortat from orlando but damn i would rather have artest! |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2009 - 09:56 PM PST
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| Artest will bring that physicality when defending guys, especially in the post. You remember this past series against Denver, when Carmelo was absolutely handling Ariza's skinny frame in the post? I don't think he will be able to do that with Ron down there. Have you seen the guy's arms? They are as big as my thighs. That is one strong dude. |
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Shepherd wrote:
I'm chewing my fingernails here guys...someone relieve the tension and tell me what's going on? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
It's basically set in stone that he'll get a deal for 3 years, 18 million. |
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| id also like to add that if odom is really as good friends with artest as it is made out to be then that has to bode well for odom maybe taking less money to stay and get some more rings! |
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Artest Twitter:
Real_Ron_Artest: Yo, I'm out to celebrate. Going to Jack Nicholson's house. Gonna bust his door down with an axe and say 'HERE'S RONNIEEEEE!!" |
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| NBA.com says its a done deal!!! |
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| Nice trade. I guess we got the better end of it. |
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| if ariza has really signed with the rockets we couldnt have asked for anything better, if he had landed with the cavs id have been pissed but ariza is not going to help the rockets one bit! |
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Artest Twitter:
Real_Ron_Artest: Yo, I'm out to celebrate. Going to Jack Nicholson's house. Gonna bust his door down with an axe and say 'HERE'S RONNIEEEEE!!"
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| Guys, we forgot to thank our GM Mitch Kupchak for pulling this off. He is truly an amazing GM. He has made some dumb moves here and there, but for the most part, he has been absolutely briliant! |
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| The Lakers have just turned into a DYNASTY with the signing of Artest. Reminds me of the 80's Lakers. Wow..Can you imagine a line up with Kobe, Ron, Lamar, Pau and Andrew. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| his early days were a disaster but i dont think he has done much wrong since trading for ariza. Some will say sashas deal was bad, i think we payed to much for bynum but all in all we have an absolutely amazing line up i just hope odom stays and then we can really celebrate |
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"You really can't blame the agent for trying to do his job. What if they had agreed to giving him a little more? What if Hedo had accepted the $35mill he was offered at Orlando and not the $60 he is about to get at Portland? What if Ben Gordon had accepted his $50 mill deal at Chicago, but now gets $55mill?"
One person to blame here is his agent. It is his job to find the best deal for Ariza, well if he ends up signing with Houston for the same amount, did he a good job as his agent? It is not what he tried to do, it is the result that matters..The best deal for Ariza now is Cleveland. Revenge factor will motivate him if Lakers play cleveland for the championship. |
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