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    Post subject: Would a loss on Sunday be the WORST loss in Lakers history??  PostPosted: May 16, 2009 - 02:57 AM PST
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    I thought blowing a 24 point lead in game 4 last year at home to Boston was one of the worst losses in Laker history. And then getting destroyed in game 6 was another horrible loss in Lakers history. The Lakers had 2 all time losses for the ages in the same series.
    The Lakers like most teams in any sport have had their share of bad losses over the years...I just listed 2 that were very bad.
    Having said that I think a loss to Houston on Sunday in game 7 at home against a T Mac and Ming less Houston Rocket team would be the worst loss in LAKER HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Can anyone think of one that would be worse then this??? I really cant think of one that would be worse then this. If it happens it might be the worst loss in Laker history and in NBA history..maybe sports history.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Would a loss on Sunday be the WORST loss in Lakers histo  PostPosted: May 16, 2009 - 03:07 AM PST
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    Very good question. Worst lost in Laker history, I'm not sure yet.
    Worst loss of Kobe's career DEFINETELY!

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    Post subject: RE: Would a loss on Sunday be the WORST loss in Lakers histo  PostPosted: May 16, 2009 - 03:13 AM PST
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    We are going to win Sunday, so this trail is moot. But, I am unconvinced that this is our year. We will likely lose in the Finals. But then again, we could win it all. That is why sports is so amazing! You never know.....
     
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    L- I agree it would be the worst loss for Kobe and that's saying something because I thought the 2 games against Boston last year,games 4 and 6 were as bad as it gets. I do however think a loss on Sunday would be even worse.
    I really think it could be the worst loss in Laker history if they drop this game..I cant think of another one that would be worse.
     
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    baad- Since you yourself said "you never know" my question stands.....would this be the worst loss in Lakers history? Can anybody think of one that would be worse??
     
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    Three come to mind....the Phoenix game after being up 3-1 with a younger Kobe and last years two disasters -- the 24 point debacle and the game six massacre. The 24 pointer was probably the worst of the three. This would rank up there for sure. But, it ain't gonna happen.
     
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    I don't know about the phoenix series being one of the worst losses. I mean true, they did blow a 3-1 lead. But no one expected them to really win a game in that series. No one actually gave them a chance. I would put the Game 4 loss of last year's Finals as the 2nd worst, and if by some magical chance they lose tomorrow, that would definitely be number 1.
     
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    I dont think the Suns series is up there either. The Suns were big favorites that year to beat the lakers,that was after shaq left,the Laker team was not that strong. It was actually amazing the lakers were leading 3-1. That would have been a bad loss for the suns..its not a Laker all time loss.
    I do think the 2 losses to Boston are up there..that game four 24 point blown lead was really really bad.
    But just think about what we are saying here...the Lakers have a deep rich history and if they were to lose Sunday it would be the worst in their history. I think its amazing we have even got to this point.
    And if they do happen to lose just think that Kobe would have been involved in 3 of the worst losses in Laker franchise history including possibly the WORST of all time. We are talking ALL time losses here.
    I cant believe its gotten to this point.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Lakers  PostPosted: May 16, 2009 - 03:09 PM PST
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    Lakersfan says he can't believe it's gotten to this point. I think it is the residue of Phil's coaching philosophy. He instilled a swagger and arrognace in all his past great teams. The Shaq Lakers knew they could overcome any deficit at any time. And they could. Same with the Bulls. This team has that attitude -- but does not have the talent. You cannot compare this years' tandem of Kobe/Pau (or Bynum) to Kobe/Shaq or MJ/Pippen.

    Thus the attitude is there, the talent is not. Shaq could do a Bynum, be out for 50 games, and come back like nothing ever happened. MJ could have an off game, and others woulds step up. This team is not built like those teams -- yet the Phil-osophy remains the same. "Let them play." "Fifteen down, no big deal." "We can get stops when we need them."

    We are like the "seven" girl who thinks she is a "ten." Sure, with a lot of effort she is a "ten" -- or better. But, if she lollygags and doesn't put in the work, she is just a seven.

    Or attitude really stinks. And that is how we got here. Period.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Lakers  PostPosted: May 16, 2009 - 03:28 PM PST
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    But I mean come on. I know we are all frustrated with this team, I for sure am. But do we really actually WANT to think about a possible loss? Due to my laker bias, I still by some magical chance believe they can turn things around. But that lies in how Kobe carries himself, and I think Phil needs to make some minor changes to his coaching. In my mind, they are playing the way they are because they are following their best player and their coach's lead. I just think Kobe has to take more of a leadership role with this team, not just on the scoring end. We all know he can score. But I just think he needs to lead and be more vocal in other aspects of the game. For instance DEFENSE. Same with Phil. I hate his philosophy of "you guys figure it out." How many times has it worked this season?
     
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    I think it would be one of the greatest upsets in the NBA. I mean GS beating the Mavs was thrilling, however, they had everyone 100%. The same can be said of Mutombo's Nuggets. What really is amazing is that this Rockets team has continued to win, even as their own fans have counted them out. When their own player has said that the Lakers are going to win it all. This team has incredible heart and effort. I'd rather build my team with guys like that, then with guys who think they are God's gift to basketball. Even if the other guy has all the talent in the world; I would rather have someone who will work his butt off and leave it all on the floor.
     
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    lol, I was watching the practice reports on lakers.com and I noticed there wasn't one for Kobe. Only for Phil and Farmar. No one else. I guess they must be pretty pissed at themselves.
     
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    Hard to say until the game is played. Also depends on what criteria you are using to classify a loss as the worst? Worst as in most disappointing, expected to win but didn't, or what?

    In any case, the 2004 Finals has to be up there. Talk about a stacked team that should have won! However, it was not as disappointing b/c we won the three previous years.

    Most disappointing could be last year or just about any other year we lost to the Celtics in the Finals.

    Cuckoo, we need you to chime in on this one!

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    Why are we talking about losing when we should be talking about winning?

    anyway I think losing to Phoenix when we were up 3-1 was pretty crappy.

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    SAMMi24 wrote:
    Why are we talking about losing when we should be talking about winning?

    anyway I think losing to Phoenix when we were up 3-1 was pretty crappy.


    good point everyone is talking about losing and whats going to happen when we lose, thinking like that doesnt do any good. winning is obviously the only thing that should be in our mind
     
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    yeah we should have beat the suns while up 3-1...i still remember watchin the game that put us up 3-1, kobe's "amazing" shot that the nba loves to replay. i also think we shouldnt have lost to the spurs in 03 4-2...we could have had a 4peat

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    We're not going to lose tomorrow. Period. We are a better team at home.

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    Theblakmamba wrote:
    SAMMi24 wrote:
    Why are we talking about losing when we should be talking about winning?

    anyway I think losing to Phoenix when we were up 3-1 was pretty crappy.


    good point everyone is talking about losing and whats going to happen when we lose, thinking like that doesnt do any good. winning is obviously the only thing that should be in our mind



    Why should anyone be optimistic about this team when they dont show up on road in a series that shouldnt have lasted this long. News flash to all, cleveland will be in the finals and we have to win a road game if we want to win a title.
     
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    Post subject: Re: RE: Lakers  PostPosted: May 16, 2009 - 10:47 PM PST
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    4tokes20 wrote:
    Theblakmamba wrote:
    SAMMi24 wrote:
    Why are we talking about losing when we should be talking about winning?

    anyway I think losing to Phoenix when we were up 3-1 was pretty crappy.


    good point everyone is talking about losing and whats going to happen when we lose, thinking like that doesnt do any good. winning is obviously the only thing that should be in our mind



    Why should anyone be optimistic about this team when they dont show up on road in a series that shouldnt have lasted this long. News flash to all, cleveland will be in the finals and we have to win a road game if we want to win a title.


    Okay. So they didn't show up on the road. I am mad about that too. But staying angry and pessimistic about it isn't going to do anything. Fans should still stick by their team until the end. And if the lakers do get knocked out, then let it all out. But this series isn't over. I understand the high expectations everyone had for this team. But honestly, the level of pessimism on this board is incredible.
     
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    smushsucks wrote:
    I don't know about the phoenix series being one of the worst losses. I mean true, they did blow a 3-1 lead. But no one expected them to really win a game in that series. No one actually gave them a chance. I would put the Game 4 loss of last year's Finals as the 2nd worst, and if by some magical chance they lose tomorrow, that would definitely be number 1.


    You right on that But the fact that The Lakers had Game 6 won when Raja Bell was suspended hurted us Damn you Tim Thomas moving on.
     
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