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    Post subject: 3 way trade and FA signing that's possibly in the works  PostPosted: Jun 06, 2007 - 01:38 AM PST
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    There's a 3 way trade possibly in the works,
    the trade is between LA, IND, and SAC.

    Lakers get: Jermaine O'Neal, Jamaal Tinsley, and David Harrison

    Pacers get: Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, and Andrew Bynum

    Kings get: Vlade Radmonovic, and Mourice Evans

    Free Agents possibly signed by LA: Chris Mihm and Luke Walton


    Starting line up possibly will be:

    C: Chris Mihm PPG 10.2 | RPG 6.3 | BPG 1.2

    PF: Jermaine O'Neal PPG 19.4 | RPG 9.6 | BPG 2.6

    SF: Ron Artest PPG 18.8 | RPG 6.5 | APG 3.4 | SPG 2.13

    SG: Kobe Bryant PPG 31.6 | RPG 5.7 | APG 5.4 | SPG 1.44

    PG: Jamaal Tinsley PPG 12.8 | RPG 3.3 | APG 6.9 | SPG 1.63


    These players are ages 27-29, they are in the prime of thier career
    and this line up would create a potent defense with great scoring capability.

    The bench might consist of: R. Turiaf, a SF draft pick, David Harrison, Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar, and other FA pick ups or draft picks


    My opinion: Look at the blocking of Mihm and O'Neal, the stealing and assist average of Artest, Bryant and Tinsley, then the overall rebounding of this starting line up. Is this not what we want as Laker fans, PLEASE give me your opinions.
     
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    Post subject: RE: 3 way trade and FA signing that  PostPosted: Jun 06, 2007 - 01:45 AM PST
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    Just wondering where did you hear this? That is what in the works? I dont doubt you but I am just wondering.

    Also in that deal how would we get Artest? You put artest in our lineup but how would that happen?


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    Post subject: RE: 3 way trade and FA signing that  PostPosted: Jun 06, 2007 - 01:50 AM PST
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    Mihm was good before the injury. Now, I am not so sure. If he is healthy, he will be signed cheap.

    Artest was rumored to be worth Brian Cook, #19 and a filler. (Luke Walton perhaps)

    Then Odom, Bynum, Sasha and Kwame for JO and Tinsley.

    Lineup:
    Farmar / Tinsley / Shammond?
    Kobe / #40
    Artest / Evans / #48
    Radmanovic / Turiaf
    JO / Mihm

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    Post subject: RE: 3 way trade and FA signing that  PostPosted: Jun 06, 2007 - 01:51 AM PST
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    Haven't heard much about David Harrison, hope he is a big since we would be trading our whole front line.
     
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    Sorry aboutnot including Ron Artest in the Lakers get collum, bottom line is that until it is done I am like you just waiting.
     
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    also David Harrison is a center 7'0 280 lbs.
     
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    statman24 wrote:
    Sorry aboutnot including Ron Artest in the Lakers get collum, bottom line is that until it is done I am like you just waiting.


    Okay so right now this is all speculation? Thats cool, I just thought you read this somewhere thats all.
     
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    i still don't like the idea of giving up lo and bynum for jo...but throwing in tinsley and harrison makes it easier..harrison will give us some kind of inside presence in the future and our current needs are met..good idea statman..
     
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    The best way of getting JO is to part w/ Kwame, Bynum, #19 and Luke Walton (s&t 5M). Perhaps add Mo Evans, Cook and Sasha for Tinsley.

    That way we can keep Odom. Walton will still be a good fit for them.

    Farmar / Eddie Jones (MLE)
    Kobe / Jason Kapono (MLE) / Vujacic
    Radmanovic / Mo Evans
    Odom / Turiaf / Brian Cook
    JO / Mihm /

    all the rest are fillers.

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    C: Chris Mihm PPG 10.2 | RPG 6.3 | BPG 1.2

    PF: Jermaine O'Neal PPG 19.4 | RPG 9.6 | BPG 2.6

    SF: Ron Artest PPG 18.8 | RPG 6.5 | APG 3.4 | SPG 2.13

    SG: Kobe Bryant PPG 31.6 | RPG 5.7 | APG 5.4 | SPG 1.44

    PG: Jamaal Tinsley PPG 12.8 | RPG 3.3 | APG 6.9 | SPG 1.63

    From original post I'd LOVE that 5. However, not sure why Jermaine is demanding that much. And they want the future (Bynum)? JO is hurt more often than Lamar. He's a little older than Lamar. He makes 18M a year longterm. Indiana wants to move his contract and he's hurt all the time. Lamar is 12M and was looking like a all star before he got hurt early. Bynum is a lot closer than everyone thinks. He says he's gonna be a all star in 2 years. Remember this is really his first year. Cuz last year he barely played at all. So he hit a wall so what. We sucked anyway. He will make huge strides next year is working on his lower core stregth in legs and trunk. Then the following year he will be D12 with better touch and less explosion.

    I WANT ARTEST SO FN' BAD. LOVE THAT HEAD CASE.

    Move Vlad Rad for a breakfast burrito, that guy is a piece of garbage with hair growing on it.
     
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    I would take that line up. Giving up Odom, Bynum, Brown, Vlad, and Mo for O'neal, Artest, Tinsley, Harrison is pretty even in my mind. Odom for O'neal is equal. Artest for Bynum is more to our advantage over the next 2 or 3 years. Tinsley for Vlad works out in our favor being that we need a pg. Mo for Harrison gives us another big body although I would prefer to throw Cook in instead of Evans.

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    i like that deal too. we improve our team defensively greatly and add some size. we get our vet pg and our 20-10 guy for byno who we arent sure how he's going to turn out, LO who isnt going to get any better and has a bum shoulder, vlad and butterfingers are well, vlad and butterfingers.

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    Dagger wrote:
    C: Chris Mihm PPG 10.2 | RPG 6.3 | BPG 1.2

    PF: Jermaine O'Neal PPG 19.4 | RPG 9.6 | BPG 2.6

    SF: Ron Artest PPG 18.8 | RPG 6.5 | APG 3.4 | SPG 2.13

    SG: Kobe Bryant PPG 31.6 | RPG 5.7 | APG 5.4 | SPG 1.44

    PG: Jamaal Tinsley PPG 12.8 | RPG 3.3 | APG 6.9 | SPG 1.63

    From original post I'd LOVE that 5. However, not sure why Jermaine is demanding that much. And they want the future (Bynum)? JO is hurt more often than Lamar. He's a little older than Lamar. He makes 18M a year longterm. Indiana wants to move his contract and he's hurt all the time. Lamar is 12M and was looking like a all star before he got hurt early. Bynum is a lot closer than everyone thinks. He says he's gonna be a all star in 2 years. Remember this is really his first year. Cuz last year he barely played at all. So he hit a wall so what. We sucked anyway. He will make huge strides next year is working on his lower core stregth in legs and trunk. Then the following year he will be D12 with better touch and less explosion.

    I WANT ARTEST SO FN' BAD. LOVE THAT HEAD CASE.

    Move Vlad Rad for a breakfast burrito, that guy is a piece of garbage with hair growing on it.


    hey dagger, i want to say welcome aboard but may have to say welcome back. are u the same dagger that was posting last year? if so welcome back, if not welcome aboard. that vlad for a breakfast burrito was a good one. Laughing
     
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    This could be a potentially devastating lineup if we also added a mo williams with the MLE, maybe split the MLE and also add one more big man, which will be needed....
     
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    [quote="statman24"]There's a 3 way trade possibly in the works,
    the trade is between LA, IND, and SAC.

    Lakers get: Jermaine O'Neal, Jamaal Tinsley, and David Harrison

    Pacers get: Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, and Andrew Bynum

    Kings get: Vlade Radmonovic, and Mourice Evans

    Free Agents possibly signed by LA: Chris Mihm and Luke Walton


    Starting line up possibly will be:

    C: Chris Mihm PPG 10.2 | RPG 6.3 | BPG 1.2

    PF: Jermaine O'Neal PPG 19.4 | RPG 9.6 | BPG 2.6

    SF: Ron Artest PPG 18.8 | RPG 6.5 | APG 3.4 | SPG 2.13

    SG: Kobe Bryant PPG 31.6 | RPG 5.7 | APG 5.4 | SPG 1.44

    PG: Jamaal Tinsley PPG 12.8 | RPG 3.3 | APG 6.9 | SPG 1.63


    These players are ages 27-29, they are in the prime of thier career
    and this line up would create a potent defense with great scoring capability.

    The bench might consist of: R. Turiaf, a SF draft pick, David Harrison, Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar, and other FA pick ups or draft picks


    My opinion: Look at the blocking of Mihm and O'Neal, the stealing and assist average of Artest, Bryant and Tinsley, then the overall rebounding of this starting line up. Is this not what we want as Laker fans, PLEASE give me your opinions.[/quote]

    IS SACRAMENTO DUMB ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS TRADE?
     
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    IS SACRAMENTO DUMB ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS TRADE
     
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    they just want to get rid of artest, they are DONE with him, so they are desperate and well, yah they are dumb enough lol remember these are the queens maloof
     
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    I just read on nba news that Rielly wants Artest and Rashard Lewis to sign with the Heat.
     
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    I read something like that too, but artest has to be traded not signed cuz hes not a FA,and we have a deal in place to get him already, however, I do think Riles has a good shot at getting Rashard Lewis, good pickup in my opinion, he's a baller
     
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    statman24 wrote:
    There's a 3 way trade possibly in the works,
    the trade is between LA, IND, and SAC.

    Lakers get: Jermaine O'Neal, Jamaal Tinsley, and David Harrison

    Pacers get: Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, and Andrew Bynum

    Kings get: Vlade Radmonovic, and Mourice Evans

    Free Agents possibly signed by LA: Chris Mihm and Luke Walton


    Starting line up possibly will be:

    C: Chris Mihm PPG 10.2 | RPG 6.3 | BPG 1.2

    PF: Jermaine O'Neal PPG 19.4 | RPG 9.6 | BPG 2.6

    SF: Ron Artest PPG 18.8 | RPG 6.5 | APG 3.4 | SPG 2.13

    SG: Kobe Bryant PPG 31.6 | RPG 5.7 | APG 5.4 | SPG 1.44

    PG: Jamaal Tinsley PPG 12.8 | RPG 3.3 | APG 6.9 | SPG 1.63


    These players are ages 27-29, they are in the prime of thier career
    and this line up would create a potent defense with great scoring capability.

    The bench might consist of: R. Turiaf, a SF draft pick, David Harrison, Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar, and other FA pick ups or draft picks


    My opinion: Look at the blocking of Mihm and O'Neal, the stealing and assist average of Artest, Bryant and Tinsley, then the overall rebounding of this starting line up. Is this not what we want as Laker fans, PLEASE give me your opinions.


    I think this line up while on paper may look good.....let's break it down a bit,....LO and Tinsley conbined will hit the lakers for 34 million $.
    LO shoots 43% from the field,....76% of his shots were JUmPERS &^% for a supposidly low post presence,..he averages 32 missed over the last three years due to injury,....and averages 19 ppg as the primary offensive option in the east were aside from BOSH who else does he really go against...hi's career high in FG% is 45,...inheard off for a quote o9n quote SUPERSTAR BIG MAN.
    Tinsley,..is gawd awful...he shoots 41 from the field,..hios turn over ration is 1/2 which means for every assit he turns it over twice. IMO if we treade KWAME for ronron,...we get about the saem ppg that JO would give plus more rebounds and more blocked shots with a much giher fg% and true low post,...MIHM before the injury was a solid 10/10 2bpg Bynum when not in foul trouble give 10/7 and 2 bpg,..we in essence get the same for slightly over 5 million and we keep LO were along with Artest,,,are gonna be probaly the best third option in the L
     
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    So jello, you think we should just keep the same lineup we have and just be a 7 or 8 seed every year and hope one year we catch some luck and win one?

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    wilakers24 wrote:
    So jello, you think we should just keep the same lineup we have and just be a 7 or 8 seed every year and hope one year we catch some luck and win one?

    NOPE,....but just think about the possibility of KOBE leaving we only have 08-09,..two years,....if JO,...and basically KOBE can't deliver,...we would of lost andre,..LO,..future first rounders,..and JO is gonna make over 21-25 million over the next three years,,...in Ind. he is really not esposed on a national LEvel,...his game is not suited to play with KOBE,...he shoots way to much AND CONNECT AT A VERY LOW %,....plus if we give away all of our pieces and don't deliver and kobe bolts then what are we left with,...............If we just simply get artest,..and maybe CbELL if he does leave we are still left with artest/lo/BYNUM/FARMAR,...we are still pretty attractive, well under the cap,..cause we don;t have any long term high contracts,..and in 2010 DWADE, LBJ, CBOSH, and melo all can optedf pout,..plus the possibility exist that KG can opt out after next year......
     
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