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Post subject: Trade talks
 Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 11:07 AM PST
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The Indiana Pacers, who are trying to regain their stature as an Eastern Conference contender, got the ball rolling by hiring Jim O'Brien as their coach Thursday.
They'll continue on that path by trying to fill several holes on their roster.
The process won't be easy because the Pacers don't have a pick in this month's draft and lack salary cap space to sign a big-name free agent. Team officials have been adamant in saying they will try to acquire a pick in the June 28 draft.
"There's a lot of people out there with multiple choices," Pacers president Larry Bird said. "There's a lot of talk around the league that with their position of the (salary) cap, they don't want to have two, maybe three, draft choices. We might be able to move in and get one of them."
The Pacers have a huge bargaining chip they can dangle in front of teams.
He stands 6-11, has averaged at least 19 points and 8.8 rebounds in each of the past six seasons, is a six-time All-Star and doesn't want to remain a Pacer if they rebuild.
Jermaine O'Neal has kept a low profile as he rehabilitates from knee surgery, but there have been multiple reports the Pacers and Los Angeles Lakers have had conversations about him. The Lakers and New York Knicks would be O'Neal's top two choices for a deal. He would play with Kobe Bryant in Los Angeles or be reunited with former coach Isiah Thomas in New York.
O'Neal's contract -- he is due $64.1 million over the final three years -- will narrow the list of potential trade partners.
Bird said he hasn't "really had any talks with L.A., but this is the time it heats up" and he expects to hear from teams about several players.
"We'll move any player we think we can make us better," Bird said. "Jermaine has been a big part of our success here over the years. He's a very talented player. You would hate to give up on someone like that unless you get something back in return that's very, very good.
"We have a core group of young players on this team that are very good. We know we need a shooter, we need some other parts. If we can get in the draft, we will; if not, we'll go out and get it in free agency."
The Pacers also want to acquire a player who can create off the dribble and a backup point guard. They could look for those types of players in a deal for O'Neal.
O'Brien, who will have input on offseason acquisitions, said the Pacers have the ability to be a better 3-point shooting team than last season, when they shot 35 percent.
"It's a matter of commitment to style of play," he said. "I like to shoot the 3. I like to shoot good 3s when you have a presence in the low post like Jermaine O'Neal. He needs a lot of attention. If he's one-on-one down there, it's better than having people who can run off non-shooters to get to him and clog him up."
Lets play GM
About the only thing that seems certain is that Kobe Bryant won't be wearing an Indiana Pacers uniform next season. Fans may still wish, however.
Jermaine O'Neal wearing the gold and purple of the Los Angeles Lakers? That's a possibility.
When making a trade, the traded players' salaries must come within 125 percent of each other -- meaning O'Neal can't be dealt for a much lower paid player to reduce the Pacers' payroll. Also, draft picks have no cap value, so they can be included in any deal.
Here are two possible moves:
• O'Neal ($19.7 million) for Lamar Odom ($13.5 million), Andrew Bynum ($2.2 million) and Brian Cook ($3.5 million).
• O'Neal ($19.7 million) and Jamaal Tinsley ($6.3 million) for Odom ($13.5 million), Bynum ($2.2 million) and Kwame Brown ($9.1 million)
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... 8/SPORTS04
i think were gonna get someone big this offseason no doubt. i think it will be JO. what about you guys? |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 11:24 AM PST
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| It sure would be nice if we didn't have to give up Bynum in that deal. I'm assuming draft picks do not count monetarily under the trade rules. |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 11:25 AM PST
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| yea. but were going to have to give up 1 seven footer if were going to get another one. |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 11:57 AM PST
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| The Lakers need to keep Bynum just in case everything falls apart in 2 years and Kobe opts out. It would be nice to have a 7 footer with 4 years experience at 22 years old to build the team around. The Lakers will be facing Stoudamire, Ming & Oden for the next 10 years. They are going to have to match up. If it takes both Odom & Bynum to get O'Neal, I say don't do it. Maybe explore smaller, more subtle, less earthshaking changes like Artest & Camby. |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 12:21 PM PST
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| I would love 2 get JO but I'm a little shaky about giving up odom 2 do it. I can handle giving up andrew but not lo. I think lo would finally show his worth on a team with 2 allstars as apposed to 1. If he gets wide open looks all season he will be crazy good in the triangle. And if we can get artest as well that would mean a breakout season for lo cause now he won't have to worry about carrying to much of a defensive load. I still think JO is the way 2 go but hopefully we won't have 2 give up lamar 2 do it. Maybe bynum, cook and the #19 would be enough. |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 02:40 PM PST
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| how about kwame vlad #19 #40 next year's first round pick sasha and BYNUM. we get to keep lamar and get an all star... |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 02:41 PM PST
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| If anybody it will be JO |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 05:04 PM PST
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| if we dont want to lose odom, brown and vlad will proboly replace him. i just dont see us getting an all-star with out losing one. |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 05:10 PM PST
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| JO,...is not the best fit,...he will handicap us from a payroll side,...64mil next three years,...let's not forget,..prior to the injuries,..we were on pace for 55 wins,...Moving kwame for artest and picking up a good shooting PG should be enough to get to conference finals, If bynum wasn't constantly in fou trouble he would of been a solid 15/10 with 1- block per game,.. |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 05:38 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 05:46 PM PST
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| Don;t be so sure,....First off,..don;t be surpised if JO isn;t packaged by the Ind to Minn. for garnet(the main reason Min. has dealt KG is becaus they want a seat filler the would partially get one in JO. Salaries work,.plus the GM's are Bird and Mchale,..your telling me,..ex celtic teamates will not deal unhappy superstars to deal of Junk for a laker,....JO,..is a LONG SHOT! |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 05:59 PM PST
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| if minny trades kg it will be to rebuild not to bring in another high priced player who isnt as good as kg. if JO is a little unhappy in indy, he would be very unhappy with the situation they have in minny. |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 06:06 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 06:08 PM PST
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| Hopefully but I don't wanna give up LO for him Bynum can go. |
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Post subject: RE: Trade talks
Posted: Jun 02, 2007 - 06:17 PM PST
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He would be but,....JO is 28 KG is 31 plus they have a draft pick and would most likely get a future pick from Indy.
JO to lakers makes No sense,...and while they are in active trade talks, bringin in JO is a a desperate move,...I can see JO?LO?KB delivering but NOt JO and KB,...JO is just a dumber overpayed, version of lamar,..with out the assist and the heart,..plus lamar shoot a way higer percentage,...JO isn' the player every thinks he is. If he was do you think larry would even think of trading,..him |
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