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Post subject: It will take Kobe push to get Artest. ESPN reports.
 Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 04:52 AM PST
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• The Ron Artest to the Lakers talk is more media- and fan-driven than it is Lakers-driven. A source close to the situation told me, "L.A. hasn't decided that it needs to go out and get Ron. It's not really committed to making a Ron Artest trade. It would take Kobe really pushing for this deal to give it a really good chance of happening.'' Kobe and Artest are friends, and Kobe wants Artest in L.A., but after last summer's PR disaster, his front office forays are over. Chances are Artest will start the season in Sacramento, and if the Kings struggle, he could be moved before the February trade deadline.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/ind ... sard_chris
Story is on the bottom of the page. |
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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 10:06 AM PST
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| Well, artest is not going anywhere soon so I think we should just wait until FO decides. I do hope we can re sign sasha and sign a decent back up center/forward free agent. Also, as I've said before I prefer prince to artest. Especially if we get McDyess in the deal as well. |
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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 11:18 AM PST
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| Now, I say, get in the race for Marion, and if that doesn't work, look for Deng or G-Force. If those all don't work, keep Lamar. As much as I'd like to trade him, it's not worth all this false hope. |
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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 11:40 AM PST
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| Lets quit beating around the bush guys. We need this grimy gritty cat. We needed him a couple of years ago when the lakers decided to keep their roster. Ron Artest will lock Paul Pierce up, then kobe can lock ray up and along with pau, chris and kenny thomas(included with Ron Artest) we can beat the hell out of Garnett with the 3 headed center like phil did back with bulls. Remember Luc Longley, Bill Wennington...etc. C"mon now..... |
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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 12:09 PM PST
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lakers4life21 wrote:
Now, I say, get in the race for Marion, and if that doesn't work, look for Deng or G-Force. If those all don't work, keep Lamar. As much as I'd like to trade him, it's not worth all this false hope.
I really don't want to trade for marion, but if we do I could live with it due to the fact that his contract will clear off the books after the season. But look at Marion, he wanted out of Phoenix because he wasn't getting enough touches, he was #3 on the totem pole. How is he going to feel being the #4 option with us? Plus he's not as well rounded as LO. I'll give him outside shot and fast breaking skills, but that's about it. I still think our best bet is to keep LO, if it's not working, then trade him at the deadline. But I have a feeling, it will work just fine..... |
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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 12:14 PM PST
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userpete1037 wrote:
Lets quit beating around the bush guys. We need this grimy gritty cat. We needed him a couple of years ago when the lakers decided to keep their roster. Ron Artest will lock Paul Pierce up, then kobe can lock ray up and along with pau, chris and kenny thomas(included with Ron Artest) we can beat the hell out of Garnett with the 3 headed center like phil did back with bulls. Remember Luc Longley, Bill Wennington...etc. C"mon now.....
So you would have use rent Mr. Headache for a year, and keep $9 million in deadweight(Thomas) an additional year? Ron is no savior, he's been run out of every town he played for. He stopped the flow of the offense in Sactown so much he gave Reggie Theus and company fits. Not to mention no one knew if he was going to play until 10 minutes before game time(he has "phantom"injuries"). If we can get him w/out taking on Thomas and giving LO, I'd take him. Maybe they could take vlad or luke(not happening I know) but to give up LO and take salary? Not a good move |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 12:55 PM PST
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| Another new topic on something thats getting very old now..ARTEST!!!! Wake me up at the deadline when we are still talking about Artest or even better next off season...... |
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Post subject: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 01:06 PM PST
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lakers_fan_from_ny wrote:
Another new topic on something thats getting very old now..ARTEST!!!! Wake me up at the deadline when we are still talking about Artest or even better next off season......
Thank you wise one. Well said!! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 01:24 PM PST
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WHY ARTEST MAN?....you are giving LAMAR!
Lamar was a huge key for us getting to the Finals!
Lamar brings the rebounds, and the scoring when the Lakers need it the most.
He hasn't even played 1 game in the SF position neat season, and they already want to ship him out?
Why would you guys want that nutcase Ron Artest?
If Odom is going to get traded, the best trade would be for Marion. Marion is just about the same as Odom, but Marion brings the D and the consistency Odom lacks. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 01:59 PM PST
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| ^^^thank you for being smart on here. Odom brings intangibles that Artest and Marion would not and he is a exponentially better passer. With a team defense scheme, that includes bynum, LO will be fine at the 3 spot. Alo good luck getting artest or marion to take the 4th option rols on a tem HA |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 02:06 PM PST
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| i completely agree, LO has to stay. Back to the main point here, you really think the FO would listen to kobe there was more chance they would last season and they didnt why would they now |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 08:52 PM PST
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ha, maybe we should keep odom.... Artest won´t be the 4th option and Lamar will, plus we have lamar bird rights....
but if we keep lamar, we´ll need to work harder on a defensive scheme.... it´ll be a work from the beginning of the training camp.. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 09:34 PM PST
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Not sure if I have seen this point made or not so here goes.
Artest Case
LA does not have to make a trade, Sacramento does need to make a trade. Right now the Kings have a Ron Artest that will not be happy and may be disruptive next season. Also, the Kings have already decided not to sign him long term, so he is out of there regardless. No other team wants Kenny Thomas's contract either, so the value is low from a Kings standpoint. This means the Lakers are in the power position and can wait on the Kings to blink. The Kings do not want to let him walk as a free agent so at some point they will trade to get something in return. The other point is that Ron does not have a large expiring contract that teams love, so that is not a big bargaining chip either. You have to also realize if a team does get Ron they have to decide if they will resign him or use him as a 'rental' for the season hoping that he is the piece that will take a team over the top. This limits his market as well because it is a VERY short list of teams that are true title contenders. His market is also limited because there are many teams that would NEVER consider signing him or trading for him. It is to the point where if the Kings want LA to take Kenny's contract then Mitch should say then you can't have Odom. Trading Odom for Ron would be like we are in the weaker position. Remember we made it to the finals with Odom, so he can't be that bad
Marion case
Miami is looking to move that big contract and do not seem inclined to want to sign marion long term. We all know that the motivation for the trade was to unload Shaq's bloated contract for something expiring sooner. Miami is also still deciding the direction they will go with Marion or not. You have to also realize if a team does get Marion they have to decide if they will resign him or use him as a 'rental' for the season hoping that he is the piece that will take a team over the top. This limits his market as well because it is a VERY short list of teams that are true title contenders. Marion is well respected in the league, but there are not many teams that would resign him for the big contract he wants (last rumors we close to $20M per year). So his market is limited. Remember teams are waiting to see if a LeBron or other big name will come free next year and the following year. So as good as Marion is many teams if they had to choose would want to save cap space for a Lebron or carmelo type player instead of Marion.
The point is LA has the option of sitting back and waiting a little to see what is going to happen and do not have to jump on a big trade right now. I am sure I have said it before, if LA would have pulled the trigger on early summer rumors last year we would be watching Jermaine O'Neal at PF/C with no Odom or Bynum. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 09:41 PM PST
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| i think the FO know they dont need to make any trades to get back to the championship this year and with bynum returning its like a signing a new player anyway. I mean whats the worst case scenario we know pau and odom can play together you would have bynum coming off the bench (which i dont think is likely before you jump on that) if things really did turn out bad we could then look for a trade but i really dont think thats going to happen |
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Nay511 wrote:
Optimistic7292, with that name u are not optimistic.
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 11:23 PM PST
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