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Post subject: Bynum ignored Lakers doctors- Delayed healing process
 Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 02:26 PM PST
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If you can ignore the headline of the article on the link below Kwame's Back, and go half way down the article talking about Kwame, you will find an interest read about how Jim Buss is still messing up the Lakers while spending his time in bars and nightclubs looking for the answers to the Lakers problems. Apparently, Jim told AB to ignore Coach Jackson and ignore Laker doctors and go get his own people. The advise he got on his knee went against the recommendations of Laker doctors and apparently was the reason for the delay in his return, and causing him to miss the playoffs.
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Post subject: Re: Bynum ignored Lakers doctors- Delayed healing process
Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 02:31 PM PST
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JamFan wrote:
If you can ignore the headline of the article on the link below Kwame's Back, and go half way down the article talking about Kwame, you will find an interest read about how Jim Buss is still messing up the Lakers while spending his time in bars and nightclubs looking for the answers to the Lakers problems. Apparently, Jim told AB to ignore Coach Jackson and ignore Laker doctors and go get his own people. The advise he got on his knee went against the recommendations of Laker doctors and apparently was the reason for the delay in his return, and causing him to miss the playoffs.
http://hoopshype.com/articles/brown_lazenby.htm
I disagree with that assessment 100%
Bynum isn't the first player to have a problem with the Lakers medical staff. The lakers medical staff severely misdiagnosed Karl Malone costing him several games in the finals and possibly our 4th championship.
Bynum, as the future of this team, and with Jim Buss the only one supporting him as a franchise player has EVERY right to get outside opinions when it comes to his health.
He's the LAST one in this organization that should be made uncomfortable by anyone in the org. He's our future.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 02:51 PM PST
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| No he should have gone with team doctors, there are hired by the franchise for a reason, and now he looks pretty dumb for not doing it and take 4 times as long for is knee to heal. And Jim buss is a **** idiot who drinks to much. I love this team but it could very well go downhill soon when 5 people are trying to make their mark and control what is going on. The Buss' are one **** up family |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 02:55 PM PST
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| how can you go against medical opinion you realise how long they have studied to get where they are? Yes go get a second opinion from another doctor but to take it in your own hands is ignorance. Hopefully he has learnt his lesson |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 02:55 PM PST
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You don't have a clue about whether the doctors were right or wrong.
I'm sure they were right about Malone which cost him his career as well huh??!
Who in their right mind WOULDN'T get second or third opinions (as Bynum did) when it comes to possible season ending surgery.
And yeah, Jim is that same "Idiot" that fought tooth and nail to draft Bynum and refused to trade him while Kobe and the rest of you fans were crying about having him "shipped out" for Kidd. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:04 PM PST
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| If Jim Buss fought to draft this kid, hoping he'd be a franchise player, then suggested he get outside opinion regarding medical issues, I'm sure he knows a little more than Topbuzz members when it comes to the lakers medical staff. Obviously there was a reason for him to specifically tell Bynum to do that. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:07 PM PST
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Tempy wrote:
how can you go against medical opinion you realise how long they have studied to get where they are? Yes go get a second opinion from another doctor but to take it in your own hands is ignorance. Hopefully he has learnt his lesson
Take it in your own hands?!
What the heck are you talking about!
For the millionth time!
BYNUMS SECOND AND THIRD OPINION BOTH AGREED THE SAME THING!
Was he then suppose to go against his second and third opinion to do the first?! Then what would you have said then?!
"Bynums an idiot, he ignored his second and third opinion who BOTH agreed on the same thing." |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:23 PM PST
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| You always have a right to seek a second and third opinion when it comes to anything about your health. He obviously wasn't comfortable with the original doctor, who happened to be tha Lakers doctor. I don't see why seeking other opinions would ever be a problem. It's his knee and his future. The Lakers don't own him, they are the team he playes for and they pay him, but it's the rest of his life that will be affected. He has a resposibility to himself and his family to make sure he is receiving proper care. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:29 PM PST
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jbully314 wrote:
You always have a right to seek a second and third opinion when it comes to anything about your health. He obviously wasn't comfortable with the original doctor, who happened to be tha Lakers doctor. I don't see why seeking other opinions would ever be a problem. It's his knee and his future. The Lakers don't own him, they are the team he playes for and they pay him, but it's the rest of his life that will be affected. He has a resposibility to himself and his family to make sure he is receiving proper care.
Finally some sense on here!
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:40 PM PST
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he has a responsibility to himself and to the contract he signed, what i meant by a seond opinion i meant another doctor the lakers recommended not just someone he had heard from from someone else ie who jim buss said to goto, oh i forgot jim buss has a doctorate....... Yes the second and third doctors agreed that the recovery should not be done as the team doctor said, what was the outcome, an even longer recovery time which denied him playing when we needed him most.
As for jim buss drafting bynum yes it was a smart move lets make him our new chief scout since he has drafted so many top stars oh wait its the only one |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:43 PM PST
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Why THE HELL would an athlete get a second or third opinion from a doctor the FIRST OPINION recommended??!
I hope you were joking when you said that. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:46 PM PST
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Tempy wrote:
he has a responsibility to himself and to the contract he signed, what i meant by a seond opinion i meant another doctor the lakers recommended not just someone he had heard from from someone else ie who jim buss said to goto, oh i forgot jim buss has a doctorate....... Yes the second and third doctors agreed that the recovery should not be done as the team doctor said, what was the outcome, an even longer recovery time which denied him playing when we needed him most.
As for jim buss drafting bynum yes it was a smart move lets make him our new chief scout since he has drafted so many top stars oh wait its the only one
Yeah, and I'm sure you were on the Kobe train when Kobe wanted to trade Bynum and said the team had no talent....that SAME TEAM that had the number one seed when Bynum went down. So how much credibility does Kobe have over Buss who said we should keep the team intact because it HAD talent, just needed to play "together".
So who lacks credibility again?? |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:47 PM PST
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jbully314 wrote:
You always have a right to seek a second and third opinion when it comes to anything about your health. He obviously wasn't comfortable with the original doctor, who happened to be tha Lakers doctor. I don't see why seeking other opinions would ever be a problem. It's his knee and his future. The Lakers don't own him, they are the team he playes for and they pay him, but it's the rest of his life that will be affected. He has a resposibility to himself and his family to make sure he is receiving proper care.
Yea and not trusting the team doctor and going elsewhere really worked out for him, o no wait it didn't CUZ HE DIDN"T PLAY THE REST OF THE YEAR |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:51 PM PST
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lakeshow707 wrote:
jbully314 wrote:
You always have a right to seek a second and third opinion when it comes to anything about your health. He obviously wasn't comfortable with the original doctor, who happened to be tha Lakers doctor. I don't see why seeking other opinions would ever be a problem. It's his knee and his future. The Lakers don't own him, they are the team he playes for and they pay him, but it's the rest of his life that will be affected. He has a resposibility to himself and his family to make sure he is receiving proper care.
Yea and not trusting the team doctor and going elsewhere really worked out for him, o no wait it didn't CUZ HE DIDN"T PLAY THE REST OF THE YEAR
He sought a second opinion on the advice of the person in LAKERS OWNERSHIP that drafted him. And if he had done the suturing recommended by the Laker doctors and something went wrong and ruined his career, you'd be arguing the other side of this right now. The point is, he is now healthy, he didn't rush back, and he is going to be fine for training camp. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:52 PM PST
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He owes it to himself to get the treatment he feels most comfortable with.
Andrew Bynum's loyalty and priorities should lie with Andrew Bynum and his loved ones first, the Los Angeles Lakers second. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:53 PM PST
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VujacicSlovenia wrote:
He owes it to himself to get the treatment he feels most comfortable with.
Andrew Bynum's loyalty and priorities should lie with Andrew Bynum and his loved ones first, the Los Angeles Lakers second.
Perfectly stated. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 03:56 PM PST
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You're sitting at your computer talking like you know what the results of Bynum's knee surgery would have been!
Once again...YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE!!
YOU'RE NO DOCTOR!
You don't know whether Bynum SHOULD have had surgery or whether the 2 outside doctors were right. You don't know whether having the surgery would have cost him the season anyways...YOU.....DON'T.....KNOW!!
So stop pretending like you're the expert here and that Bynum made a "dumb decision" by not having surgery on His Own Knee!!!! |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 04:00 PM PST
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| LKnight, Some people are just determined to find fault with everything. It appears that's what's happening with a couple of the posters on this thread. They want to blame Bynum for "mishandling" his knee injury and missing the season. We're apparently not going to change their minds with the common sense and logic that you, VujacicSlovenia, and I have been posting. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 04:02 PM PST
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| OMG LETS ALL KEEP YELLING ABOUT THIS AAAAHHHHHH and its so cool to argue on the internet. Actually I had almost the same exact injury as Bynum SO I DO KNOWW UUUHHHHH. And after he went past the 8 week prognosis he should have gotten scoped like he ended up doing anyways cuz not doing that procedure can risk his knee and his career. A small piece of his knee cap was scraping on the bones as it moved over them causing him pain. But lets all keep posting in caps and exclamation points and a bunch of periods cuz it is so much fun |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 04:03 PM PST
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You're right JB,lol
I should just save my breath and energy.
Common sense doesn't always work at times. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 04:28 PM PST
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VujacicSlovenia wrote:
He owes it to himself to get the treatment he feels most comfortable with.
Andrew Bynum's loyalty and priorities should lie with Andrew Bynum and his loved ones first, the Los Angeles Lakers second.
His loyalties should lie with me. I spent a fortune on his trading cards. Come on Andrew we need you, I need you. |
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 05:16 PM PST
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