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Post subject: ARTEST WANTS OUT SAID ON ESPNEWS
 Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 10:40 PM PST
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| Artest said that he made one of the biggest mistakes of his life by not opting out cuz he said that he was given misleading info he probably was thinking of opting out and joining the lakers till he was given that info |
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Post subject: RE: ARTEST WANTS OUT SAID ON ESPNEWS
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 10:43 PM PST
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| Lakers??? He was thinking of joining the Lakers? |
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Post subject: RE: ARTEST WANTS OUT SAID ON ESPNEWS
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 10:44 PM PST
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Here is the link on the ESPN website so know one thinks that prodigykid's opinion of Artest joining the Lakers was reported.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3469895 |
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Post subject: RE: ARTEST WANTS OUT SAID ON ESPNEWS
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 10:47 PM PST
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^^Thanks for the link.
I'm sick and tire of Artest always changing his damn mind....This is what. The 10th time he's changed his mind on this matter? Well, it's too late to do that now...... |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 10:52 PM PST
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| Not another Ron Artest topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will it ever end?????????????????? ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:20 PM PST
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gemfow yeah it does, read the article
it said lakers are among teams expected to reopen trade possibilities becuase of artest and kobes relationship |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:22 PM PST
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Artest didn't opt out monday, but he can still be traded to another team. I think his contract is around 8 million. Trade Walton and Coby to the Kings for Artest. Maybe some cash to match contracts.
Ron Artest would be great for the Lakers, another that would be a good fit for the Lakers would be Najera on a trade. Both of those guys can defend the likes of Pierce. You would not see Pierce penetrating like he did in the playoffs. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:25 PM PST
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| im not going to say that we are getting him or anything but artest may be smarter than many people think. IF he gets traded, the team that receives him retains his bird rights meaning he can get an extension that is worth more than the mle. theoretically speaking, he would be able to get a max contract if a team is willing to give him one. |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:37 PM PST
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Walton and Karl for artest??? Oh please!!!!!!!!!!!! You think the Kings are giving their hated rival artest for a bad contract and a guy that does not play????
And who would give Artest a max deal? What team would be willing to do that?
And now artest is smarter then we think? Artest himself said he was stupid for not opting out.
Laker fans just cant let this go...they want what they want and if they stamp their feet enough they think they will get it.
And like I said for years now its not easy making trades with a rival..the Kings hate the lakers..they would trade him anywhere but to the Lakers if they have a choice.
And once again Walton and Karl is not getting Artest back..get real. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:38 PM PST
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cyclone_nicky wrote:
im not going to say that we are getting him or anything but artest may be smarter than many people think. IF he gets traded, the team that receives him retains his bird rights meaning he can get an extension that is worth more than the mle. theoretically speaking, he would be able to get a max contract if a team is willing to give him one.
hey cnick, do u think now lakers will make an offer to the kings, and do u think we will be able to keep LO, bynum, gasol, and kobe if we do? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:50 PM PST
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| The Maloof brothers are business people and I think that if they can get a couple of good players from the Lakers that would help their team they would make the trade. I don't think they are like a Larry Bird or Kevin Mchale that carry grudges from previous battles. Everybody says Walton is very cerebral so maybe the Kings want a cerebral player. If not the shape shooting Coby, then how about letting Vlade go in the trade. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:52 PM PST
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Axle wrote:
The Maloof brothers are business people and I think that if they can get a couple of good players from the Lakers that would help their team they would make the trade. I don't think they are like a Larry Bird or Kevin Mchale that carry grudges from previous battles. Everybody says Walton is very cerebral so maybe the Kings want a cerebral player. If not the shape shooting Coby, then how about letting Vlade go in the trade.
we shoud offer the vlad/luke and ariza for artest! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:54 PM PST
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:55 PM PST
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Do you really think the Kings FO is this stupid? Walton is horrible with a bad contract and Karl does not play....Rad has a bad contract also. Do you think the Kings want to help the Lakers win???????????
And that clown Artest could have opted out last night but he is such a mental case he did not and now is upset about it.
The Kings would want Odom and they would want us to take a bad contract like Kenny Thomas..just what the Lakers dont need...and thats IF the Kings FO would ever trade with the rival Lakers anyway.
All this trouble for a mental case.. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:56 PM PST
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| That is the only area where I see the Lakers need help. They were too porous on defense with the small forwards. Get a couple of good defensive players for the three spot and the Lakers are set for a run at a championship. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:58 PM PST
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Axle wrote:
That would be too much. Not Ariza!
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:02 AM PST
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| LegendmanLA: I think you misunderstood, the initial poster said something about Artest opting out and thinking about joining the Lakers. I posted the link so no one would think that his opinion is what is being reported, the Lakers opening trade negotiations is a completely different matter. |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:03 AM PST
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Once again why would the Kings take bad contracts and bad players back like Walton and Rad or Karl?????????????????? Is this a joke?????
And the article said trades between rivals especially teams with a history like the Kings and Lakers IS NOT EASY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:18 AM PST
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Will yall stop posting these ron artest topics. You gone make my boy N.Y. pull his hair out. lol
I knew soon as I read this article earlier today they would sweat you N.Y. 
I must agree with you on that one though N.Y. dude coulda opted out on monday like everybody else, now's he's trippin over it. He needs to grow up.
Now Ima have to change my damn avatar again!!
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Post subject: artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:22 AM PST
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| L- Yeah I am losing it with these artest topics lol It never ends!! I totally lost it when someone said Karl and Walton for artest lol What more can I say? lol |
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Post subject: Re: artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:26 AM PST
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lakers_fan_from_ny wrote:
L- Yeah I am losing it with these artest topics lol It never ends!! I totally lost it when someone said Karl and Walton for artest lol What more can I say? lol
ateast i said luke/vlad and ariza...that's way more reasonable |
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Post subject: RE: Re: artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:36 AM PST
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| now if artest demanded to be traded to only the lakers, wouldn't sacramento trade him for something rather than lose him for nothing in free agency? |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:40 AM PST
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bl- Artest cant demand to be traded to one team...who the heck is he to be demanding trades to one team? Artest has ZERO leverage..the Kings own him for this year..he had his chance to leave he decided not to. Demanding a trade to only the Lakers lol You must be joking
You think the Kings FO will let this nut push them into making a deal with only the lakers? GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Kings could trade him anywhere..he has no say or a no trade clause like Kobe..they can send him to Memphis if they wanted.
And the Kings would rather have him walk and get nothing rather then take bad contracts like Rad and Luke back!!!!!!! |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:46 AM PST
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| geez and i thought Kobe last summer was confusing.... Artest now confuses me even more |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:51 AM PST
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| This is exactly why just about ALL teams would never touch Artest...the guy is crazy!!!!!!! Imagine you are a Kings fan and you listen to all this nonsense from this nut? He is unlikeable and crazy and a flake and he cant be trusted...he is a cancer!! |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 01:06 AM PST
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| the only player that Sacramento will take is Odom.. |
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Post subject: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 01:31 AM PST
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lakers_fan_from_ny wrote:
Not another Ron Artest topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will it ever end?????????????????? ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude im sick of tired of hearing u say that if u dont like it dont read it ron artest is a good player a player that fits our needs |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 01:41 AM PST
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| At the cost of imagining our poor member from NY throwing himself onto the floor in a convulsive seizure - Artest now has a greater chance this way of ending up with Los Angeles, than he would have had opting-out, but it will require the involvement of Odom, before the trading deadline in February. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 01:46 AM PST
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| I'm already tired of all this Ron Artest drama. First he doesn't want to opt out, then he emails he will opt out, then he decides not to opt out, and now he says he regrets not opting out. Enough with this dude. He doesn't seem to have his head on right. It really makes me concerned about his committment. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 06:20 AM PST
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| Prodigykid: Fan from NY is tired just like a few others including myself, have you noticed all the other threads in regards to Ron Ron? Some of these posts aren't even feasible, like when someone says trade Vlad and whoever for Artest, last time I checked neither Vlad or Luke are as coveted as Mr. Artest, so why would Sacramento make a trade unless it helps them? Luke or Vlad and their years left on their contracts don't help Sacramento get better or free them up financially. This is not really aimed at you prodigykid, the last 2/3rds of the paragraph are general. |
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Post subject: OC Register: Artest Regrets Not Opting Out, Made Big Mistake
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:41 PM PST
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After crushing the dreams of a lot of Laker fans, Ron Artest did a complete 180 and said he regrets not opting out of his contract, reports the Orange County Register on its website.
Does this mean that he's still on the table? Do the Lakers have a shot at him? Pull the trigger Mitch!! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 01:07 PM PST
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| Look here Gemflow. I was the one that said trade Vlade, Walton and Coby for Artest. I don't understand why a couple of you guys don't really like Walton and Vlade and the unproven Coby. Just because they had a rough time in the Celtics playoffs does not mean that they didn't play good the rest of the season. Vlade is a three point shooter and Walton can play if he gets his head off thinking of Lohan. What might be a couple of players that do not fit with the Laker strategy, might fit perfect into the Kings play book. So don't under estimate the Laker players and make the Lakers give up players that actually fit into the triangle like Odom. By announcing it to the rest of the world what you back seat managers think might make it harder for the real general manager Mitch to try and get a deal on acquiring Artest. Before the NY fan has a stroke maybe we should just let Mitch handle the contracts. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 01:46 PM PST
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| They would want Sashe or Ronny most likely. So package on of them with Vlad or Luke and sign brent barry if we need another shooter |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 01:48 PM PST
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noam57 wrote:
the only player that Sacramento will take is Odom..
That is probably true except that Artest wants to play with odom |
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Post subject: RE: OC Register: Artest Regrets Not Opting Out, Made Big Mis
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 02:10 PM PST
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| He can negotiate for a freakin' buyout now, and be with the team he desires. |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 02:51 PM PST
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I will try and remain calm talking about Artest today.
cuck- I dont see how the Lakers have a better chance of getting Artest now then if he just opted out and signed with them. He had all the cards,he could have opted out and just signed with the lakers...that was the most easy way to have him on the Lakers. Instead he did not opt out which makes things very hard because like it said in the article trades between rivals are very very complicated. The Kings hate the lakers..why would they help them? They can trade artest anywhere..why to the lakers? And now it will cost the Lakers Odom who artest wants to play with and the Lakers taking a bad contract like Kenny Thomas also. And thats IF the Kings will trade with the Lakers at all. So the Lakers would give up Odom,take another bad contract like Kenny Thomas just to have that nut Artest on the team? Not as easy a decision as you make it seem. And not as easy as if that flake would have just opted out and signed with the Lakers. Once again the Kings are in our division and they HATE the Lakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Axle- The Kings would have no interest in taking Luke or Rad,they both have bad contracts..it does not help the Kings at all..it only hurts them. You cant go on and on about how good Rad and Luke or even Coby is and then want to run them out of here. Do you think teams are stupid? Do you think the Kings FO is stupid? Do you really think they would take Luke and Rad and their bad contracts? You want the Kings to give you a good player for 2 bad contracts. Plus Luke and Vlad have very little value..Luke had a bomb of a season and Rad looks lost in big spots..you think the Kings FO missed the finals? You basically want the Kings to take the Lakers junk for one of their better players....luke and rad have BAD contracts not expiring contracts. Its not happening...ever..end of story.
prod- What else can I say to you about Artest..his actions speak for himself..he is a nut always has been..a cancer. You just want what you want when you want it...blame artest not me..if he REALLY wanted to be a Laker he would have done what B Davis did and opt out to play with the Clippers..but artest did not. Blame artest not me. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 05:03 PM PST
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Post subject: Re: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 05:17 PM PST
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lakers_fan_from_ny wrote:
I will try and remain calm talking about Artest today.
cuck- I dont see how the Lakers have a better chance of getting Artest now then if he just opted out and signed with them. He had all the cards,he could have opted out and just signed with the lakers...that was the most easy way to have him on the Lakers. Instead he did not opt out which makes things very hard because like it said in the article trades between rivals are very very complicated. The Kings hate the lakers..why would they help them? They can trade artest anywhere..why to the lakers? And now it will cost the Lakers Odom who artest wants to play with and the Lakers taking a bad contract like Kenny Thomas also. And thats IF the Kings will trade with the Lakers at all. So the Lakers would give up Odom,take another bad contract like Kenny Thomas just to have that nut Artest on the team? Not as easy a decision as you make it seem. And not as easy as if that flake would have just opted out and signed with the Lakers. Once again the Kings are in our division and they HATE the Lakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Axle- The Kings would have no interest in taking Luke or Rad,they both have bad contracts..it does not help the Kings at all..it only hurts them. You cant go on and on about how good Rad and Luke or even Coby is and then want to run them out of here. Do you think teams are stupid? Do you think the Kings FO is stupid? Do you really think they would take Luke and Rad and their bad contracts? You want the Kings to give you a good player for 2 bad contracts. Plus Luke and Vlad have very little value..Luke had a bomb of a season and Rad looks lost in big spots..you think the Kings FO missed the finals? You basically want the Kings to take the Lakers junk for one of their better players....luke and rad have BAD contracts not expiring contracts. Its not happening...ever..end of story.
prod- What else can I say to you about Artest..his actions speak for himself..he is a nut always has been..a cancer. You just want what you want when you want it...blame artest not me..if he REALLY wanted to be a Laker he would have done what B Davis did and opt out to play with the Clippers..but artest did not. Blame artest not me.
no way the lakers could have signed him if he opted out unles he would sign for the MLE which I doubt. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 05:22 PM PST
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| Look at all the drama Artest is stirring up and he is not even on our team. He is not opting out. He has already stated he will not accept a MLE. He is a total head case as he is demonstrating with all this drama. Let Ariza develop into the starting SF position and forget about Artest. Lets go chase a PG or something. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: OC Register: Artest Regrets Not Opting Out, Made Big
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 05:23 PM PST
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warrenweelim wrote:
He can negotiate for a freakin' buyout now, and be with the team he desires.
Exactly. Why do you think he started showing so much interest in playing elsewhere? Kinda hard to build around someone u know wants out or will be gone the next yr anyway. And didn't he want to come here b4 he he went to Sacto? If he gets a reasonable buyout he could sign here, but they'll probably try to trade first and I doubt we're high up on their trade partner list. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: OC Register: Artest Regrets Not Opting Out, Made
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 05:30 PM PST
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| It is all about stroking his ego. He wants to create drama and be in the headlines. He is an unstable guy. Lets stay clear of him. We were a few wins short of a championship without Bynum, lets not go blowing the team up with this guy. I think IF we can resign Sasha and Ronny then we might not make a single move this off season and that would probably be the best decision. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 05:46 PM PST
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Now Laker fan from NY is contradicting himself. He says that Artest is a quality basketball player, then he comes down hard on Artest as a no good cancer. If he is a cancer and no good, it seems like the Kings would want to get rid of him for three players which according to NY fan have terrible contracts and would be a total failure for the Kings.
I disagree in both cases. JMHO!
Artest is no dumby. He is guaranteed I believe 8 million dollars in his present contract. If he had opted out the Lakers could only offer him the MLE, which I believe is a couple of million less. He wants to play for the Lakers, but not at a cost of millions of dollars that are already under contract. |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 07:07 PM PST
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ax- Luke,Rad,and Carl are 3 bums that you want off the team..thats why you are throwing their names out there. Rad and Luke have bad contracts and are bad players on top of that..the Kings dont want bad contracts back and they dont want back bad players with bad contracts. And the most important thing is the Kings hate the lakers and wont trade with them.
Artest has value to the Kings because his contract expires after this year...and nobody said artest cant play thats not the point...and yes he is better the Luke,Rad,and Carl..also not the point. And the Kings can trade artest anywhere...why would they trade him to the lakers? The Kings are just not going to give him to the Lakers to help LA win.
Wake me up when something actually happens to back your play and story up..so far Artest is still on the Kings and not on the lakers...until then you dont have much to back your argument up with.
Let me know when the Kings take Luke and Rad or Carl for Artest...wake me up when artest actually gets to LA.
I have heard this same song and dance about Artest every single year since he has been on the Kings..every year its the same nonsense. And every year the Kings dont trade artest to the lakers. Then for months I listened to all the BS about Artest opting out because he loves Kobe,Odom,and the lakers...I listen to silly radio interviews where artest talks more smack...but in the end he does not opt out.
Now its artest wanted to opt out and he is upset he didnt...well its too late for that now isnt it???
Now fans want to trade the Lakers junk to a team that hates us for artest. Its not even like you are offering odom and taking a bad contract like Kenny thomas back....it has to be so one sided that you want the Kings to take Luke,Rad and carl. Like I said wake me up when the Kings take those three bums and trade Artest to their most hated rival.
And Artest already said he was dumb for not opting out....Davis and Brand took less money to play together. Leave Artest on the queens where he belongs. Amazing how some Laker fans will go to bat for a Kings player but the same fans destroy Shaq who won the lakers and their fans three titles. Artest is on the Kings still...wake me up when the kings FO is stupid enough to take Rad,Luke and Carl....its a joke even thinking they would be that stupid. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 09:03 PM PST
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You sound more like a Kings fan then a Laker fan. You sure are bashing three Laker players that in the eyes of the Mitch were good enough to sign them to good contracts. Maybe you should consider the job as manager for the Lakers.
So with your expertise, WHO do you want for the Lakers. And who do you want to trade from the Lakers besides Odom. So in your opinion you want to get rid of a very talented Lamar Odom and keep Walton, Vlade and Coby because nobody wants them. So if they stay with the Lakers that would make the Lakers a bad team with those three guys. HAH! If they are dragging the Lakers down, those three bums, what do you want to do with these guys? I can hardly wait for the answer. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 09:20 PM PST
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| So...How many times are we suppose to wake you up??? I think I got three: one when the Kings take Walton and Co., one when Artest becomes a Laker, and one when he is in L.A.? What if it all happens at the same time? Then what do we do? No really, Artest most likely won't be a Lakers without Odom being in the deal, but these are just opinions and there is no need to cut down people like that. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 09:23 PM PST
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| I'm so tired of this artest ordeal, forget him now he is crazy and can't even make up his freakin mind |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 09:40 PM PST
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ax- First off I love the lakers and hate the Kings..I think thats pretty clear. I think the lakers are stuck with Luke,Rad,and Carl...I dont see any way a team takes their bad contracts. If the lakers could dump them I would be happy but they cant and the lakers are stuck with them.
Carl never played,Luke was horrible last year and Rad is a streak shooter..thats it and when Rad is not on a hot streak from three he does nothing else positive.
I said from the start to keep the team the way it is and see when a healthy Bynum and Ariza are back healthy how the team looks. This group has not played all together yet. Bynum has not played with gasol etc etc Lets see what we have first before we start trading players.
I never said I wanted to trade Odom over Walton...I said look at it from the Kings side..would you want Walton or Odom...thats the point!!!!!!!! If you can pull off a fleece job like walton and Rad for artest go ahead but thats not realistic...its very UNREALISTIC.
You want everything but you dont want to give anything. You want artest but not for odom..you want Artest for walton and Rad...not happening..the Kings are not doing it. if you ran the Kings would you take Rad and Luke for artest??? NO YOU WOULD NOT!!
And Walton,Rad and Carl did and will drag the team down if they dont play better..its that simple. I dont want them on the team but that does not mean its easy to get rid of them like you think it is. Plenty of bad players with bad contracts that drag teams down..and because of bad contracts teams are stuck with them. The Luke signing is turning into a bad one for Mitch,Rad is not much better and Carl never plays so forget him.
You just want the Kings to take Rad and Luke for Artest..if you think Rad and Luke are good players that teams want I think you are dreaming. I said if and its a big IF the KIngs would even trade with the Lakers they would want Odom and they would want LA to take a bad contract back like Kenny Thomas...but you dont like that deal...you just want a one sided fleece job like the lakers are the only team looking to win out there..like every team in the league has to help the Lakers. The Kings hate the Lakers!!!!!!!!! I heard the same BS with the KG stuff...you know how that turned out.
So the question is once the Kings laugh at Walton and rad for artest and if the Kings want to trade with the lakers is are YOU willing to give up Odom and take a bad contract back Like Kenny Thomas for artest?
I say lets see how the team plays all together with Bynum back before we make panic trades. The lakers are not desperate..lets see the team play all together first.
tyler- Calm down...we are just talking..nothing is personal...and I think you agree with my points in the end anyway. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 09:42 PM PST
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| I agree with with Lakeshow707. I hope Mitch signs Ronny and Sasha and try to keep the same team together, Maybe just add one good defensive player. That is it. We already got pretty close to winning the championship. With Andrew Bynum coming back, the Lakers will be a much better team then the one that went against the Celtics. |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 09:45 PM PST
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| Wow Artest is making everybody nuts here. LMAO |
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Post subject: RE: Artest
Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 11:17 PM PST
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| Yeah Gem I get wat u mean but im jus saying that NY doesnt have to say anything bout it all i posted was that he said he wished that he would of opted out u noe wat im saying i jus dont like the way he reacted |
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