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embuen1991
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Post subject: Most realistic offseason moves
 Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 05:11 PM PST
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after crying and complaining for who knows how many hours and staying away from the outside world... i opened the door to the light...
its going to be hard to get rid of luke and rad...seriously... who wants players with that kind of contract PLUS the way they performed in the FINALS....
so here are the most realistic deals we can land this summer...
1artest(must)
2i think maggettee would be a great addition for this team...he can play defense.. is an enforcer..strong..can hit the open shot...slash and drive to the lane...and rebound...(would help out ariza tremendously)
3) mike miller... can hit the open 3 that spreads the floor.. but lack of defense..
so how do you guys feel about landing the cross hall rival corey mag??????? |
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Post subject: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 05:28 PM PST
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| i think magette is a good roll player, but isn't he small, or at least plays small? |
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Post subject: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 05:33 PM PST
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| i dont like magette on the lakers... even though he can get to the line bout 10-11 times a game |
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Post subject: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 07:32 PM PST
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Maggette on the Lakers doesn't solve any problems at all. He only scores 22 PPG because he is pretty much their 1st option. On the Lakers, he would not be. He was upset with the Clips due to lack of playing time and ball time. Do you think that wouldn't come up on a team with Bryant, Gasol, Odom and Bynum on it? He would be a waste. We'd likely give up a good piece of our team for him and get very little in return.
Artest is NOT something we need. Even the possibility of chemistry issues on the team depletes his value in my opinion. Adding Bynum and more depth at Center with defensive ability along with getting Ariza more playing time will shore us up defensively and will not mess up our team chemistry or require a huge move like losing Odom. Odom for Artest IS NOT a valuable trade for us.
Mike Miller... I would love to land Miller as long as it is not at the cost of one of our key pieces. As it is, we have some pieces to spread the floor already. Sasha was 8th in the league in 3p%, Fisher and Vlad tied for 21st. And that is out of 120+ players that shot regular 3's. Sasha and Vlad off the bench with no Miller is, to me, more worth while than losing someone like Odom or any other solid player(s) to get him. |
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Post subject: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 07:52 PM PST
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| I would really like Miller with the Lakers. Trade Walton and Rad for Mike Miller. I am not sure what Miller is paid. I also like Artest even though he is a hot head, but it would not be any worse to Phil Jackson then Rodman. And Phil could control him pretty good and got good defense from him. Artest is a good defender in the three spot. He defenitely would have stopped Pierce. I don't think we need any help in the center position. Where we need help is in the three position that can defend. We have a surplus of players at the moment that are playing the three. Trade some for better defense. |
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Post subject: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 08:00 PM PST
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Odom defends the 3 fine. He's quick enough to keep up and much longer than just about all 3's. Plus we have Ariza at the 3. Our 3 defense is fine. Why do people think we have problems there?
You guys do know that we had RADMANOVIC playing the 3 most of the year, right? So yeah, our 3 defense looked bad. But he's not even starting next season. Odom is at the 3 as of now with Ariza backing him for D and Radman backing him for O.
As far as Walton and Rad for Miller, their salaries are close. About 10.5 total for Walton and 9 for Miller. But honestly, do you think we could send those two lame contracts to Memphis AGAIN for their #1 player? Jerry West can't use the same 'Expiring Contract' excuse this time to pull that off. For Miller, we'd either have to have West work a ton of magic or send Odom. |
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Post subject: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 08:03 PM PST
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| I don't think there is a need to blow up this team. What we need is Phil to instill a defensive mentality into this team. I think the entire Lakers squad now understands that Championships are won with defensive intensity. We have an awesome offensive squad, and we have the kind of players that can play great defense if necessary. Our goal for next year should be to hold opponents to the low 90's for the season while keeping our offense rolling with over 100 ppg. |
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Post subject: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 08:05 PM PST
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| Jerry West is not Memphis GM dude he resign last season |
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Post subject: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 08:12 PM PST
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| hmmmmmm what i think we need is a good shooting SF STARTING... i don't know... i think miller is a good option... odom+vlad for miller? i mean odom i think will have his problems with bynum and gasol in the front line,, he'll have to either improve his jumpshot a hella lot more or get traded,, i mean if u think about it, the SF, SG, PG will have LOTS of open looks from the ball movement/double teaming of gasol + bynum + kobe, so... we need that SF to hit the open shot, we'll see how it goes |
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Post subject: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 08:12 PM PST
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i don't care about chemistry issues, i just want artest on the team..
we can work things out; |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 08:22 PM PST
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J.Redd24 wrote:
Jerry West is not Memphis GM dude he resign last season
Yeah, but you don't think he had anything to do with the mugging we put on Memphis in that trade? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 08:27 PM PST
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| Odom and Vlad wont work for miller. Odom 15 mill Vlad 6 mill thats 21 mill. Miller makes 9.1 this season and 9.9 next. who else would we get from Memphis? 3 team deal would work but who is going to want Vlad? or Luke? |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 08:34 PM PST
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Fabulicious91 wrote:
hmmmmmm what i think we need is a good shooting SF STARTING... i don't know... i think miller is a good option... odom+vlad for miller? i mean odom i think will have his problems with bynum and gasol in the front line,, he'll have to either improve his jumpshot a hella lot more or get traded,, i mean if u think about it, the SF, SG, PG will have LOTS of open looks from the ball movement/double teaming of gasol + bynum + kobe, so... we need that SF to hit the open shot, we'll see how it goes
Here's a thought. Develop Ariza into the starting 3 spot. He is a great DEFENDER and is improving as a shooter and can cut and slash to the basket. Please lets not bring in a guy like Miller who is basically another one dimensional player like Vlad. Been there - Done that - Doesn't work. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 08:40 PM PST
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| we don't need miller, he just shoots, what about defense? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 09:14 PM PST
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| Mike Miller i think is perfect on this team, he could shoot and could create his own shot now, plus we need a really good 3 point shooter to spread the floor out for Gasol and Bynum |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 09:26 PM PST
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Most realistic offseason moves
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 09:45 PM PST
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ballerxjms wrote:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1016~ 2027~558&teams=29~29~13&te=&cash=
vlade 5mil, luke 4 mil for mike' miller 8mil
Come on man, be realistic. Why would the Grizzlies do that? |
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Post subject: Lakers
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 09:47 PM PST
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| So much for the realistic trade post...these all sound unrealistic. |
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Post subject: RE: Lakers
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 09:54 PM PST
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i wouldnt mind miller but we would have the same problems on defense we do know. artest i have said for 3 years that i would love to have. i think he would be awesome on our team with his big size for a sf and he can d up against any three in the league. maggette, im not too sure of. his game is decent but lets face it, he has been a loser his whole career. slakkjaw made a good point about him possibly upset over the lack of pt.
anyway, the only way we can get another sf is if we find a way to trade a couple of our guys. we arent going to get another three if we still have luke, odom, ariza, and vlad. theres too much cash spent on those four guys to be going after another one. |
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Post subject: RE: Lakers
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 09:57 PM PST
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yeah scenarios are very unrealistic, i haven't posted much in a while, but even i know what's not going to happen..to me most realistic is getting a role player...do a lot of players want to play in the lakers right now? of course. but salary cap, as well as our chemistry will be in jeapordy if we start trading away for first big name that crosses our path..my personal choice for an offseason pickup if we had to make one, would be battier, unselfish and does all the little things, and then some. between his hard work/kobe's. i'm sure it would motivate the team to work harder, he's a veteran, and isn't afraid to take shots when neccessary...only questionable concerns with him are the price we'd pay for him, and what position we'd play him in
as for maggette.. i don't want to see him in a lakers uniform. he takes a lot of forced shots, and on defense he won't be a difference maker..we'd still have no answer for fast guards.. and if we really want to improve our Defense, we need to learn to defend the pick and roll. simple as that. its a team effort not individual based..
and as for mike miller.. possible trade.. maybe. considering this past season's rumors of lakers denying a trade for him, but after the whole pau gasol "fixed" trade thing.. i doubt the grizzlies gm would do so. |
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Post subject: RE: Lakers
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 10:13 PM PST
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| in order to get mike miller we need to trade odom, by the way its about team defense not individual defense, ray allen looked like a great defender becasue the celtics had good team defense |
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Post subject: Artest
Posted: Jun 18, 2008 - 11:08 PM PST
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| cyclone- For three years I have asked the question why would the KIngs trade and help the Lakers? They are rivals and rivals | |
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