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    Post subject: *The Official Offseason Plan Thread*  PostPosted: Jun 17, 2008 - 11:25 PM PST
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    I was wondering, what do we need to do in the offseason? Do we need to make a trade? Luke, Lamar, or Vlad? Do we need to sign a free agent? Artest? Tell me what you guys think we should do in the offseason.
     
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    All I have to say is Vlad and Luke both suck equally!! I dont think we should deal LO, I think he should stay. I think a guy who is whooping our a** all series......Posey should be a guy we look at for sure. He is a poor mans Artest.

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    We're stuck with Luke & Vlade. No one is taking their poor play & contracts off our hands.

    We need someone who's not afraid to take a charging call
     
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    We need to keep Odom. With Andrew Bynum's return, this may be good for Odom. We need a facilitator other than Kobe. Odom gives us versatility. We need to have Kobe, Andrew, Pau, and Lamar as our 4 starters. Fisher of course will round up the 5th starter.

    If we can sign or trade for a consistent shooter to come off the bench, our bench will get stronger. Radman will have to go. His inconsistency cost us some games. We'll just have to see who's available.
     
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    We need to keep Odom. With Andrew Bynum's return, this may be good for Odom. We need a facilitator other than Kobe. Odom gives us versatility. We need to have Kobe, Andrew, Pau, and Lamar as our 4 starters. Fisher of course will round up the 5th starter.

    If we can sign or trade for a consistent shooter to come off the bench, our bench will get stronger. Radman will have to go. His inconsistency cost us some games. We'll just have to see who's available.
     
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    We need toughness thats what hurt us the most. We had as much talent if not more than the C's. I'm surprised we got to 6 and not gotten swept with the lack of physicalness the lakers played all series. We need to get some players that are going to bring it every time mainly defense. One of our biggest flaws is that we don't have a defense of scheme. No one took a charge the whole series if i could remember. Bottom line is that defense wins championships and we need to work on that next season if we want to win it all.
     
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    i don't see walton or radman being shipped out unless another GM is dumb enough to take their horrid contracts. i think it's time for odom to maybe say good bye. i would have artest any day before i would take odom back. kobe is going to return next year on a mission. i see us pretty much coming back next year with the same team plus a couple of veterans. that's about it.

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    do we really want artest's personality around such young players?...im just saying

    I say we keep our young players as well as our starting 5 and we'll be fine.

    trade luke for posey, the celtics will accept because they know they owe us for giving them game 4 (which killed our shot at getting a ring this year).

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    we dont need a lot this off season.. i jsut say get rid of vlad and luke and sign quality players.... i mean we dont need to make a dramatic trade... cuz we already have our starting lineup in fish/kobe/lamargasol/Bynum, and our bench guys ariza, sasha.... ronny needs to learn how to post... i want to see him do better... hes just not cut out for it right now..... farmar.. he will improve still young an will be a lot better
     
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    Rjones13LAL wrote:
    do we really want artest's personality around such young players?...im just saying

    I say we keep our young players as well as our starting 5 and we'll be fine.

    trade luke for posey, the celtics will accept because they know they owe us for giving them game 4 (which killed our shot at getting a ring this year).

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    Do you really think the Celtics are going to give us Posey for Luke? Lol, I wish.

    Also, Artest would be the perfect fit on our team. A defensive minded player, who is also an excellent offensive player. I don't really care about Artest's personality. He is friends with Kobe, so he might be interested in coming here. Remember a guy by the name of Dennis Rodman? Phil controlled him, and Artest's personality is not as bad as Rodman's personality.


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    how about luke vlad for kapono
     
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    I think what we should do is trade odom+walton for artest and any vet they want to throw in and it doesnt matter cuz lo and walton = 17 million we need shooters so vlad is a huge asset also dont be so down on vlad he is a role player and was expected to be a quality starter but off the bench he will do fine especially if we lose lo and walton and the logjam at the sf spot will be settled and if he is not shooting well that night we can put ariza in to give artest minuts on the bench (fish-farm)kobe a D minded sf artest whoever pau and bynum will be a really good on both sides of the ball and our bench will still be good cuz we only loosing walton but mabe gaining a vet
     
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    Rjones13LAL wrote:
    do we really want artest's personality around such young players?...im just saying

    I say we keep our young players as well as our starting 5 and we'll be fine.

    trade luke for posey, the celtics will accept because they know they owe us for giving them game 4 (which killed our shot at getting a ring this year).

    GO LAKERS!!



    yes we do need a player like that. odumb, puke, vlad, and ronny arent cutting it. artest brings toughness, scoring, and is a beast on defense which we will need for players like pierce, lebron, manu, and even west. im not asking to get rid of all our players but replacing at least 2 of them is a must. the one thing i see our team lacking is toughness. we definitely need some of that.

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    Let me put a very important question out there. I would love to see us trade Radmanovic for just about any player with a heart beat; and some of you have ideas of trading other players (Walton, Odom, etc.). But here is the all-important question:
    With a HEALTHY Bynum, Odom, Bryant, and Gasol in the lineup and with the same bench etc as we have now, can we beat the Celtics or any other team for that matter next year?

    I for one think that, without a doubt, if we are healthy and with Radmanovic coming off the bench (where he belongs), we would have been the ones hoisting the trophy tonight. The Celtics exposed our major weakness for what it was: a lack of a true center. Now insert Bynum and where are we in this series? How many of those wide-open layups they had are sent into the stands?

    If we had Bynum, can anyone argue that we win both Game 2 and 4, thus almost sweeping Boston in 5 games?

    And if we can beat the Lepers with Bynum, is there any reason to not believe we can beat ANY other team out there?

    So then I ask you, do we really need to make any changes?

    Obviously if something good and exciting comes in the off-season, we take it. But if we are the ones waiting for an offer, we will be in good shape.

    All I ask of management is they NOT bring in a player with a TO (of football) type of attitude. Believe me, an attitude can ruin an entire team.

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    Rjones13LAL wrote:
    do we really want artest's personality around such young players?...im just saying

    I say we keep our young players as well as our starting 5 and we'll be fine.

    trade luke for posey, the celtics will accept because they know they owe us for giving them game 4 (which killed our shot at getting a ring this year).

    GO LAKERS!!


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    Do you really think the Celtics are going to give us Posey for Ljuke? Lol, I wish.


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    Also, Artest would be the perfect fit on our team. A defensive minded player, who is also an excellent offensive player. I don't really care about Artest's personality. He is friends with Kobe, so he might be interested in coming here.


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    Remember a guy by the name of Dennis Rodman? Phil controlled him, and Artest's personality is not as bad as Rodman's personality.



    1. if you cant tell, I was joking about the luke for poesy thing,

    2. Yea, look how well Kobe and Rodman got along....... o yeah they didnt even talk!! Im not so sure that Artest and Kobe are really freinds, but I may be wrong. Im just gonna say, dont be surprised that IF Artest opts out, he ends up on the Nuggets.

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    cyclone_nicky wrote:
    Rjones13LAL wrote:
    do we really want artest's personality around such young players?...im just saying

    I say we keep our young players as well as our starting 5 and we'll be fine.

    trade luke for posey, the celtics will accept because they know they owe us for giving them game 4 (which killed our shot at getting a ring this year).

    GO LAKERS!!



    yes we do need a player like that. odumb, puke, vlad, and ronny arent cutting it. artest brings toughness, scoring, and is a beast on defense which we will need for players like pierce, lebron, manu, and even west. im not asking to get rid of all our players but replacing at least 2 of them is a must. the one thing i see our team lacking is toughness. we definitely need some of that.


    definitely. Imagine the trouble the likes of Lebron, Wade, Melo, Pierce, and other star SF's and SG's will have against Kobe and Artest....
     
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    well i agree... if it can work than cool... but i just dont know if odom van cut it on the defensive side especially a good shooter. and his offense is suspect i think bynum is the missing puzzle piece to our def... also we would save alot of cap space so we can resign sasha ronnie and extend bynum wich are very important and pau is going to play better with bynum cuz they wont be able to beat him up as much and cheat on him nicky what do u think?
     
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    Harry wrote:
    cyclone_nicky wrote:
    Rjones13LAL wrote:
    do we really want artest's personality around such young players?...im just saying

    I say we keep our young players as well as our starting 5 and we'll be fine.

    trade luke for posey, the celtics will accept because they know they owe us for giving them game 4 (which killed our shot at getting a ring this year).

    GO LAKERS!!



    yes we do need a player like that. odumb, puke, vlad, and ronny arent cutting it. artest brings toughness, scoring, and is a beast on defense which we will need for players like pierce, lebron, manu, and even west. im not asking to get rid of all our players but replacing at least 2 of them is a must. the one thing i see our team lacking is toughness. we definitely need some of that.


    definitely. Imagine the trouble the likes of Lebron, Wade, Melo, Pierce, and other star SF's and SG's will have against Kobe and Artest....


    Yup, Artest should be our main goal. He is the perfect player for our team. He is tough, defensive minded, aggressive, and plays hard all of the time.
     
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    Lakers_4_Lyfe_BayBay wrote:
    Rjones13LAL wrote:
    do we really want artest's personality around such young players?...im just saying

    I say we keep our young players as well as our starting 5 and we'll be fine.

    trade luke for posey, the celtics will accept because they know they owe us for giving them game 4 (which killed our shot at getting a ring this year).

    GO LAKERS!!


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    Do you really think the Celtics are going to give us Posey for Ljuke? Lol, I wish.


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    Also, Artest would be the perfect fit on our team. A defensive minded player, who is also an excellent offensive player. I don't really care about Artest's personality. He is friends with Kobe, so he might be interested in coming here.


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    Remember a guy by the name of Dennis Rodman? Phil controlled him, and Artest's personality is not as bad as Rodman's personality.



    1. if you cant tell, I was joking about the luke for poesy thing,

    2. Yea, look how well Kobe and Rodman got along....... o yeah they didnt even talk!! Im not so sure that Artest and Kobe are really freinds, but I may be wrong. Im just gonna say, dont be surprised that IF Artest opts out, he ends up on the Nuggets.

    GO LAKERS!!!


    1) Lol, thank goodness you were telling a joke.

    2) Yea, Kobe and Artest are friends.
     
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    Lakers_4_Lyfe_BayBay wrote:
    Harry wrote:
    cyclone_nicky wrote:
    Rjones13LAL wrote:
    do we really want artest's personality around such young players?...im just saying

    I say we keep our young players as well as our starting 5 and we'll be fine.

    trade luke for posey, the celtics will accept because they know they owe us for giving them game 4 (which killed our shot at getting a ring this year).

    GO LAKERS!!



    yes we do need a player like that. odumb, puke, vlad, and ronny arent cutting it. artest brings toughness, scoring, and is a beast on defense which we will need for players like pierce, lebron, manu, and even west. im not asking to get rid of all our players but replacing at least 2 of them is a must. the one thing i see our team lacking is toughness. we definitely need some of that.


    definitely. Imagine the trouble the likes of Lebron, Wade, Melo, Pierce, and other star SF's and SG's will have against Kobe and Artest....


    Yup, Artest should be our main goal. He is the perfect player for our team. He is tough, defensive minded, aggressive, and plays hard all of the time.


    really, Artest provides us with what we're missing. Toughness, Physicality, defense, and can hit the open shots. you guys don't know how bad i wish we can get rid of Vlad's and Luke's contracts making room for Ron Ron.
     
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