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    Post subject: West: Don’t count out Kobe and Lakers  PostPosted: Jun 09, 2008 - 09:16 PM PST
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    Don’t count out Kobe Bryant and the Los Angeles Lakers yet, Jerry West advises.

    “Everyone wants to look at him, `Well, he’s not shooting very well.’ Boston is limiting his opportunities, has done a heck of a job on him,” the Hall of Famer said. “They’re making people shoot that they probably want to shoot. But this series is not over, by any stretch of the imagination.

    “He provides everything for the Lakers. He provides the energy, the toughness, the heart and soul of this team. He’s carried the team this far. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him take it upon himself maybe to try to get the ball to the basket a little bit better.”

    Although Bryant wasn’t able to help the Lakers pull out either of the first two games in Boston, he still averaged 31.4 points on 49.6 percent shooting.

    As the finals shift to Los Angeles, West participated in a sort of welcoming ceremony for the Larry O’Brien championship trophy at the airport on Monday. With the Celtics up 2-0, the trophy may be in town for just a brief visit.

    West, a member of the Lakers’ 1972 championship team, smiled at how times have changed.

    After using the ground crew’s red sticks to help wave the Southwest “Dunk One” plane painted with basketballs and the NBA logo into its parking spot, West carried the trophy down the steps.

    “I think this tells you how the NBA has grown, flying the trophy around. In it’s own seat, by the way,” he said.

    He expects the Lakers to be quite a different team on their home court, where Game 3 will be Tuesday, Game 4 on Thursday and, if necessary, Game 5 on Sunday.

    West said Boston is a very good team and “represents a unique matchup for the Lakers,” adding, “but the Lakers can play better.”

    “They will be a much more aggressive, confident team (at home). But having said that, with the 2-3-2 format, I think it’s imperative that the Lakers find a way to win these three games,” he said. “If the Lakers play well, then all of a sudden, Boston has a problem.

    “I think you’ll see a great deal more energy, and really a much more aggressive offensive game for the Lakers. They can’t just shoot jump shots all the time.”

    He said Bryant will take care of his end of things and “You shouldn’t worry about Kobe Bryant. His effort is always there. That’s not the person. You should look at everyone else (on the Lakers) and what their effort and contribution is going to be.”

    Talking about the glaring spotlight on players, teams and coaches in the finals these days, West said, “So this is a great time to play. But frankly, I don’t know if I were playing today I would want to deal with the press. Too much.”

    CLOTHESLINE NOW COSTLY

    When Boston’s Kevin McHale clotheslined Kurt Rambis of the Los Angeles Lakers to the floor in Game 4 of the 1984 NBA finals, he was back on the court the next game.

    That wouldn’t be the case these days.

    David Stern, who was only months into his term as commissioner at the time, said the league deals with plays like that differently today.

    “I think there might have been some games lost by the player involved,” Stern said. “We have, over the years, made a determination that the sport is really quite beautiful and quite graceful and quite extraordinary, and that our players are capable of inflicting great harm on each other if we don’t regulate it.”

    There are two categories for flagrant fouls, with the more severe leading to an automatic ejection. The plays are then reviewed by the league office to determine what other sanctions might be warranted.

    McHale’s takedown of Rambis was shown plenty of times in the days leading up to these finals as a way to show how rough the game used to be, especially when the Celtics played the Lakers. Everyone involved recognizes it’s not that way anymore.

    “As a kid watching games, I enjoyed that aspect of the game. I knew it was going to be a fight when the Celtics played the Lakers. I knew somebody was going to get their (butt) whipped,” Celtics guard Sam Cassell said. “You whip somebody’s (butt) now, it’s going to cost you a lot.”

    Cassell remembers having to ice for hours after the game as a rookie when his Houston Rockets beat New York in the 1994 finals. He said it’s impossible to get away with the rough tactics teams like those Knicks used.

    “Them days are over with,” he said. “We have all these cameras in here … we got a floating camera nowadays picks up everything. We got microphones under the backboard hears everything, so the league office sees and hears everything that goes on in this court.”

    NOTING 2-0

    James Posey has seen a 2-0 lead evaporate in the NBA finals, so he knows the Celtics can’t relax after winning the first two games.

    Posey was on the Miami team that dropped two games in Dallas to open the 2006 finals, then stormed back behind Dwyane Wade to win four straight. So even though Boston seems in control against Los Angeles, the reserve forward knows how quickly things can change.

    “Never get too comfortable, and at the same time you have to realize the things we didn’t do well and the things we did do well,” Posey said. “Once we have practice, we have to come up with another game plan so we can go out and execute and try to get a win on the road.”

    Only three times in 29 chances have teams falling behind 2-0 in the finals come back to win, with the Heat the last to do it. Boston pulled it off against the Lakers in 1969, and Portland rallied to beat Philadelphia in 1977.

    The Lakers still believe they can be the next one.

    “We just have to go home and protect our home court,” reserve guard Sasha Vujacic said. “That’s all they did is protect their home court, so it’s going to be a different story in L.A.”

    DON’T PASS IT UP

    Rajon Rondo had one of the best passing games in Celtics’ history in Game 2, when he handed out 16 assists.

    Maybe he gave the ball up a little too much.

    Boston coach Doc Rivers said Rondo passed up open shots down the stretch, something he planned to discuss with his second-year point guard.

    “If he doesn’t shoot the jumper, we just want him to make quick plays, quick decisions,” Rivers said. “I thought down the stretch, it wasn’t just Rondo, I thought overall we all did that. We’ll watch film and show Rondo where his spots, where his shots are.

    “We’ve got to convince him that it’s all right to miss a shot and then take another one, and then take another one. If they’re going to leave you open, you’ve got to keep shooting it or making plays. I thought for three quarters he made plays. I thought in the fourth quarter he just looked more to get the ball out.”

    Rondo took only four shots, two in the final quarter, and finished with four points in 42 minutes. His jumper is considered the weakness in his game, and teams often leave him open to shoot while double-teaming Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce or Ray Allen.

    Rondo got his stars the ball plenty Sunday. Only Bob Cousy, who twice had 19, and Dennis Johnson, with 17, had more assists by a Boston player in a finals game.

    “That’s what I take pride in, getting guys the ball,” Rondo said. “Like I said, tonight they made shots, I just got them the ball.”

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    It is not over - it is just starting now. If we had homecourt - we would be up 2-0 now. So don't give up or feel this is over - it is just starting and when we win the first one at home then we will be just one win away from being even and then watch out!
     
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    Post subject: Re: West: Don’t count out Kobe and Lakers  PostPosted: Jun 09, 2008 - 10:02 PM PST
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    Although Bryant wasn’t able to help the Lakers pull out either of the first two games in Boston, he still averaged 31.4 points on 49.6 percent shooting.


    Really? I thought he scored 24 on 9-26 and then 30 on 11-23. Maybe they mean he averaged that through the playoffs so far or something.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Re: West: Donâ��t count out Kobe and Lakers  PostPosted: Jun 09, 2008 - 10:06 PM PST
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    just reading that Jerry West is saying this gives me lots of hope

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    Post subject: RE: Re: West: Don�t count out Kobe and Lakers  PostPosted: Jun 09, 2008 - 11:01 PM PST
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    LIke the old cliche', it aint over till its over but we have to up it a notch in this 3 home games to take control of this series.

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    4lakers wrote:
    It is not over - it is just starting now. If we had homecourt - we would be up 2-0 now. So don't give up or feel this is over - it is just starting and when we win the first one at home then we will be just one win away from being even and then watch out!

    exatcly!! its only starts now!! so DONT GIVE UP!!
     
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    YAH LAKERS SPIRIT LET"S GO!!!!
     
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    I've never discounted the Celtics in this series, unlike most of the media and my fellow Laker fans... I've probably given Celtics more props than anyone on the forum... That said, I have to say that the Celtics lack killer instinct. Let us not forget that all three Celtics led teams into the lottery multiple times, something that happened to Kobe only in one injury riddled season where the Laker coaching situation was in flux.

    Bottom line is that if the Celtics lose Game 3 (not a definite case, but almost certain with refs surely now on the side of the purple and gold) then their lack of experience and killer instinct will come out. Don't be surprised if the Celtics go on to lose Games 4-5 just because they will be looking forward to getting back to the garden. By then they will have dropped 3 straight, lost all momentum, and begun thinking the unthinkable: "Could we be the 2006 Mavs?"
     
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    Just a crazy thought for you conspiracy buffs: could it be that the NBA knows that with Bynum we will win for the next four - five years and they wanna give KG his ring? Sure looks pretty funny the way the refs killed us in game two. Just food for thought.
     
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    No... there is no conspiracy theory... Why would the NBA care about KG? Could it be that they want to give him a "thank you" for ruining the collective bargaining agreement with his ludicrous salary? Didn't the NBA go into a strike because of this dude? Uh... not sure why Stern would care.

    I live in Texas and so I've had to deal with crack-pot conspiracy theorists all these years... Spurs fans lamenting how their poor hick town can't compete against the big markets... You have no idea what I had to go through after Game 4 of the WCF. In light of this suffering, I would hope that no Laker fans descend to the "conspiracy theory" level of the hated Spurs fans.

    The refs were biased for Boston because they were the home team. Expect a steady line of Kobe at the free throw line in Game 3. I expect to see both KG and Pierce in foul trouble early and often.
     
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