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Post subject: Evaluation of Game 1
 Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 06:22 PM PST
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| This is just to talk about what you liked and disliked from Game 1. What adjustments need to be made for Game 2? |
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Post subject: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 06:27 PM PST
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Keep getting under the Nugget's skin, it's easy to annoy and frustrate them. Play Coby Karl, I'd be pissed if he doesn't get any PT against his dad, even if all the games are close. Seriously.
Also, Kobe should stick to playing smart and fooling the defenses, just like he did in the fourth.
Lamar and Gasol just keep doing what you did tonight! |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 06:31 PM PST
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Voulnet wrote:
Keep getting under the Nugget's skin, it's easy to annoy and frustrate them. Play Coby Karl, I'd be pissed if he doesn't get any PT against his dad, even if all the games are close. Seriously.
Also, Kobe should stick to playing smart and fooling the defenses, just like he did in the fourth.
Lamar and Gasol just keep doing what you did tonight!
Kobe needs to play a little smarter and let the game come to him, less jumpshots would be nice, but kobe did play great in the second half |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 06:34 PM PST
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| The ball movement when Kobe was in the game was terrible. We played much better with Kobe out of the lineup. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 06:50 PM PST
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| Lamar was great with well rounded numbers as usual. Pau almost got a triple double 36 pts. 16 rbs and 8 assists, best game ever as a laker. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 06:51 PM PST
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| Play kobe and sasha in back court at the same time, both player made life a little harder for AI, and let either one post AI up and get him in foul trouble are pass out of the double team. Kobe need to stop settle for outside shots, Everybody need to attack the basket like odom and paul for easy . |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 07:12 PM PST
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| Kobe settled way too much. Martin was guarding him so he could have taken him off the tribble and went to the rack. Pau had a great game and I expect this kind of performance from him when the Nugetts play zone on us. Also, Farmar shot a lot of three's. He should consider driving in. Great game though! It's the W that counts. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 07:50 PM PST
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Kobe must be part of the offensive, not the offensive. Horrible ball movement with Kobe on court.
Perimetral Defense. A guy called "kleiza" looked like a Jordan second coming, getting to the basket, Rocking the rim, shooting 3s.
Defensive transition. Denver got many easy buckets running the floor. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 08:08 PM PST
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On offense we just have to move the ball and move it some more to find out mismatches and easy buckets for others
also, like some of u guys said, Kobe has to play in the offense and not take shots that are layups for Denver
cause every time he missed a shot, the Nuggets ran and made a lay up
Kobe has to played like he did against the SUns on shaqs debuttttt |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 08:16 PM PST
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Omarkb24 wrote:
Kobe has to played like he did against the SUns on shaqs debuttttt
Great choice.
Kobe´s Best Overall offensive game, this year. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 08:19 PM PST
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CAZ_LAKERFAN_KOBEFAN wrote:
Omarkb24 wrote:
Kobe has to played like he did against the SUns on shaqs debuttttt
Great choice.
Kobe´s Best Overall offensive game, this year.
Yea man
He didnt force anything and he created a lot of plays for his teamates
Kobe played a perfect game that night
But if we want to win this series we need him not to get so hyped and take forcing shots |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 08:20 PM PST
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This game was closer than what the final score indicated. The nuggets were well below their season average in FT shooting at 23/37 and LA was above at 27/32. If the teams shoot their season average, I am guessing Denver gets 7 more and LA one less. Now you add in the over reaction by the Ref on Iverson and suddenly we have ourselves a much closer game that goes down to the wire. We must do a better job of not fouling (especially since Turiaf playing limited minutes) because you can be sure Denver's FT percentage will improve next game.
Next, Kobe must make better decisions on the offensive end. There were several times during the game where he did not take advantage of the triangle and wound up with very poor shot selections (although a few did drop). Next, Farmar must do a better job on both ends of the floor. I believe LA was minus several points while he was on the floor and plus several with Fish. Not that all the blame should be placed on Farmar, but he needs to be a better floor leader on offense and stay in front of his man on D (not an easy task against Iverson). I also felt that Gasol needed to rotate over on help defense better, although his D was decent today. Kleiza also had far to many easy open looks today and had a playoff career high of something like 26.
Now what we did well and need more of is passing the ball with something like 30 assists today. Lamar, The Machine, and Luke had great overall games today so hopefully that will continue as well. I have this feeling that D. Fish will go off for like 25 points next game and Mello will score about 10 less points. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 09:03 PM PST
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| AI was thrown out when the game was already decided. They couldn't come back with or without him |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 10:06 PM PST
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| Kobe forced too many shots today. I mean he was taking 20 foot jumpers and 3 pointers with a hand in his face when there was still like 15 seconds left on the shot clock. I got so frustrated. I mean, doesn't he realize they play their best when they run their offense and pass the ball around?? Or has he not learned that yet?? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 10:19 PM PST
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i think we should give kobe a break, because of him we are in the playoffs
second of all he usually makes most the shots that he missed today, so its not like he was forcing it
and third he still found a way to score 32 points
and 4th of all it doesnt matter because we won anyway!!! GO LAKERS!!! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 10:20 PM PST
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| Kobe's a great player, but it's obvious that he still wants to be "the guy". He's a selfish player at heart. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 10:22 PM PST
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smushsucks wrote:
Kobe forced too many shots today. I mean he was taking 20 foot jumpers and 3 pointers with a hand in his face when there was still like 15 seconds left on the shot clock. I got so frustrated. I mean, doesn't he realize they play their best when they run their offense and pass the ball around?? Or has he not learned that yet??
Exactly!
I've been saying that forever but it's like people here get offended when you point that out. We played excellent team ball until that fourth quarter. I think Kobe see's the 4th as "His Time" regardless of the score or the situation, regardless of the fact that Gaso has been unstoppable all night and his own shot isn't falling, he feels he must take over the game and put his finishing touches on it when in fact he's taking the entire team out of what's gotten them this lead. And to answer your question, after 12 seasons I honestly don't think he'll ever get that. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 10:26 PM PST
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Rjones13LAL wrote:
i think we should give kobe a break, because of him we are in the playoffs
second of all he usually makes most the shots that he missed today, so its not like he was forcing it
and third he still found a way to score 32 points
and 4th of all it doesnt matter because we won anyway!!! GO LAKERS!!!
And your obviously one of those guys I call boxscore hounds. Guys who only watch Kobe's end game stats and say how phenomenal of a game he had. And no your absolutely wrong, it does matter, even if we won the game. Did you not notice that the only reason it was as close as it was is because Kobe held the ball and forced the action in the 4th as he usually does. And it doesn't matter whether or not he makes those shots, he's made TONS of shots that wouldn't go in for normal players. That doesn't change the fact that it's a bad shot, or the fact that when he does miss, it creates fast breaks for our opponents, or the fact that the entire chemistry the team has built for 3 quarters is now ruined because he felt the need to "Take over." Yes it does matter. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 10:28 PM PST
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Rjones13LAL wrote:
i think we should give kobe a break, because of him we are in the playoffs
second of all he usually makes most the shots that he missed today, so its not like he was forcing it
and third he still found a way to score 32 points
and 4th of all it doesnt matter because we won anyway!!! GO LAKERS!!!
And no I'm not "Giving Kobe a break". He's been in the league 12 years and still hasn't figured the simple things about the game out and how it hinders this team. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 10:37 PM PST
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I wouldn't go as far as saying Kobe forced a lot of shots today. Kobe took what the defense gave him and that was a contested jumper, which is why they have Kenyon playing him. Denver's plan is to have Kobe shoot jumpers over a bigger player so he can not penetrate into the heart of the D. Did the ball stop moving when Kobe got it? Yes it did a few times but that's not always on Kobe a lot of times team mates stop moving because they feel Kobe is going to tak his man one on one, so I would say it's a collaborative fault.
If Kobe was pump faking three times and pulling off the vert, then I would say it's a forced shot, but he didn't do that, he took a lot of shots that he's capable of making and next game it will go in and then you're looking at a blow out. I do agree with one thing, in the 4th the Lakers do need to stop saying it's Kobe's time and still continue with what is working. Gasol should have crossed over 40 points today easily.
I would like to see them move KObe around with out the ball and have Kenyon chasing him through screens that would get him off of Kobe with a quickness. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 10:38 PM PST
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| man how many ball deflections did denver have? seemed like a 100 |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Evaluation of Game 1
Posted: Apr 20, 2008 - 10:54 PM PST
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