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    Post subject: *Official Vent your Frustrations Thread*  PostPosted: Apr 09, 2008 - 12:43 AM PST
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    Why o why do we continue to play like this....kiss that Number one seed goodbye. Hornets lose. All we had to do was to turn it up just a notch. The Lakers decided to do this at the last 4 minutes of the game and it wasn't enough. Portland beat us fare and square easily throughout the game...

    Is anyone worried about our point guard position....man o man fisher and farmar got beat repeatedly

    Don't you guys see this trend.....Dallas and Washington game was the same but we were lucky enough to get those wins. Am I worried....yes. Hope we come back and beat the Hornets and the Spurs and send a message....

    Use this thread to VENT!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Post subject: RE: Vent your Frustrations Thread....  PostPosted: Apr 09, 2008 - 12:51 AM PST
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    OUR DEFENSE IS HORRIBLE! AND WE HAD SO MANY OPPRITUNITIES, BUT WE LOST THEM, HOW CAN WE WIN LIKE THAT! Whew, glad I got that out of my system.
     
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    bynum is the key...

    we are living or dying with our perimeter game right now,
    while before we destroy team on the points and pscologically...
    him playing in the paint, on offense AND defense, is our anchor of the team,
    and we just dont have the presense now...

    pau's been good, but hypes over and he is just playing like pau now.
    i just cannot wait when big drew is back, and when we have a complete team.

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    we have waited for 12 weeks,
    i can wait for one more, when he come back next week.

    the rest in-between end of season to playoff will be crucial for us as well.
    fish, luke, kobe, gasol, AB, LO all need time for their body...

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    ForeverLaker wrote:
    Why o why do we continue to play like this....kiss that Number one seed goodbye. Hornets lose. All we had to do was to turn it up just a notch. The Lakers decided to do this at the last 4 minutes of the game and it wasn't enough. Portland beat us fare and square easily throughout the game...

    Is anyone worried about our point guard position....man o man fisher and farmar got beat repeatedly

    Don't you guys see this trend.....Dallas and Washington game was the same but we were lucky enough to get those wins. Am I worried....yes. Hope we come back and beat the Hornets and the Spurs and send a message....

    Use this thread to VENT!!!!!!!!!!!


    we could drop to 5th tomorrow, houston is only a half game behind us and theyre playing the sonics tomorrow. however they play the suns and jazz next, also the suns are only a game back. home court could be the deciding factor in a lot of these series, i know we can win without it but when a series goes 7, that homecourt is huge.

    also fisher is looking like he is in pain out there, his lateral quickness is not his usual. farmar needs to get focused because i see more minutes coming his way. what i saw the blazers do was set a lot of back screens, lakers got caught a lot of times watching the ball.

    hopefully this game will be a wake up call, i m sure the coaching staff is getting on them for their d, but maybe now itll really get intense at practice. bynum will be back soon to clean up some of our defensive mistakes, and we wont have to help out as much down low

    best part of our defense this game was odoms foul, should have came a lot earlier in the game to send in a message, that him and gasol can give out the punishment

    this venting felt good, i know we can get this together, we just need to get the fire back and i think kobe will give it to them
     
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    I could care less about the number 1 seed. All I'm concerned about is having our guys healthy and ready to go. It doesn't matter where we play (except Portland w/o Bynum).

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    we could drop to 5th tomorrow, houston is only a half game behind us and theyre playing the sonics tomorrow. however they play the suns and jazz next, also the suns are only a game back. home court could be the deciding factor in a lot of these series, i know we can win without it but when a series goes 7, that homecourt is huge.


    we wont be falling to 5th because we are ahead of phx and utah.
    as pacific divison winner we are basically set at the 3rd spot... if we win the pacific that is.

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    samustudio wrote:
    bynum is the key...

    we are living or dying with our perimeter game right now,
    while before we destroy team on the points and pscologically...
    him playing in the paint, on offense AND defense, is our anchor of the team,
    and we just dont have the presense now...

    pau's been good, but hypes over and he is just playing like pau now.
    i just cannot wait when big drew is back, and when we have a complete team.


    I'm not mad at Pau tonight. He finished with 23 & 13. Can't ask for much more. He's no where near the stopper that Bynum is, so we can't be too mad at him tonight. It's the rest of those guys perimeter defense, including Kobe that got us killed once again. That three point play by Roy was absolutely ridiculous and at the worse time. But it wouldn't have happend had our guards stepped up.
     
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    Watching our team play defense sickens me! I cant stand watching us play on the defensive side of the court! I just dont understand why we go through so many collapses game-in and game-out. I dont see any communication going on with the players and we get killed by penetration all the damn time. GRRRRR!!!
     
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    I'm the same way, at times I'd rather just wait til the games over to rewind the tape because I can't stand watching these guys play on the other end of the court. I can take a loss when you man up and get beat, but when you play horrible fundamental defense and collapse at horrible times of the game, it's sickening to watch.
     
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    lakersforthewin wrote:
    I could care less about the number 1 seed. All I'm concerned about is having our guys healthy and ready to go. It doesn't matter where we play (except Portland w/o Bynum).


    I think the #1 seed is crucial. (Not only from a Kobe MVP standpoint).
    But who would you rather go through...Denver/Utah/N.O. or Phoenix/San Antonio/N.O.??
    Big difference if you ask me.
     
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    On thing I realized every game that the lakers dn't get the calls they want they whine and COLLAPSE! I am not sayin that they shoudn't get the calls...( this games refs where horrible btw) I agreed they should've def got the calls but when u whine to the ref and dont get back this is what happens. Is whining gonna give u back the cak... hell no! get back to the game and whine during timeouts!
     
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    da reason our defense was horrible casue we baked off cause tat granpa ref called every little ticky fouls
     
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    lakersforthewin wrote:
    I could care less about the number 1 seed. All I'm concerned about is having our guys healthy and ready to go. It doesn't matter where we play (except Portland w/o Bynum).


    you should care about the 1 seed because if we get it we'll play denver in the first round = we make it to at least the second round

    p.s. the jazz and rockets are both over 2 games behind us so were still ok

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    lknight wrote:
    lakersforthewin wrote:
    I could care less about the number 1 seed. All I'm concerned about is having our guys healthy and ready to go. It doesn't matter where we play (except Portland w/o Bynum).


    I think the #1 seed is crucial. (Not only from a Kobe MVP standpoint).
    But who would you rather go through...Denver/Utah/N.O. or Phoenix/San Antonio/N.O.??
    Big difference if you ask me.


    We're gonna have to face S.A sometime during the playoff run and they're the biggest threat to us. Everyone else should be managable (If we're healthy of course)

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    lakersforthewin and samustudio are right. and what they're doing is stepping back, not letting this loss blind them, and looking at the big picture.

    we're not playing lakers basketball. lakers basketball entails that we have all of our players healthy. you can't actually think that we'll be playing this style of ball when bynum's back? when he does get back, guards beating our guards off the dribble have andrew bynum to stare at. when he gets back, we've got a legitimate shot blocker, rebounder, finisher, and passer in the LOW POST. pau's been operating about 10-15 feet away from the basket.

    our current game is NOTHING like what it's GOING to be when bynum gets back. and when people keep saying that we're using bynum as an excuse, i just laugh. because it's a justifiable excuse. if they didn't watch the way the lakers played during that winning streak with bynum playing TREMENDOUS basketball, then they don't know how good bynum really is/was.

    the only thing holding my optimism back is the fact that we don't know if bynum's going to come back as good as he was, but i'm confident that with bynum at 80% (at least), we can make a strong push for the championship.

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    ...Not to mention they try to run a halfcourt trap that looks like a dysfunctional zone, but what makes it bad is that they are so slow on their rotation that it turns out to be just an unnecessary double-team. WTF!

    ok now im done Very Happy
     
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    we have two problems:

    1)Defense.
    2)Weak mentality.

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    CAZ_LAKERFAN_KOBEFAN wrote:
    we have two problems:

    1)Defense.
    2)Weak mentality.


    Here are your solutions

    1)-Andrew Bynum
    2)-Andrew Bynum's return.

    Nuff said!

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    Preach on lftw.
     
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    ballerxjms wrote:
    da reason our defense was horrible casue we baked off cause tat granpa ref called every little ticky fouls


    Trust me, the refs are no where near to blame for this teams defense
     
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