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    Post subject: Are the Lakers out of the running with Kidd?  PostPosted: Jan 31, 2008 - 09:28 AM PST
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    Report: Kidd may be part of blockbuster deal
    Nets star could end up with Mavs in 3-team, 12-player trade
    Nets point guard Jason Kidd reportedly may be traded to the Mavericks in a blockbuster deal that involves three teams, 12 players, draft choices and cash.



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    The New Jersey Nets are discussing a blockbuster, three-way trade involving veteran point guard Jason Kidd, the Dallas Mavericks and the Portland Trail Blazers, The Record of New Jersey reported Wednesday.

    The deal, which would involve at least 12 players, draft picks and some cash, according to The Record, would send Kidd to Dallas, the team that originally drafted him out of California.

    The Record, citing league sources, reported that New Jersey would land point guard Jarrett Jack and forwards Travis Outlaw and Channing Frye, a No. 1 pick and cash from Portland and forward Devean George, center DeSagana Diop, swingman Jerry Stackhouse, a No. 1 and cash from the Mavericks.



    Malik Allen and Darrell Armstrong also would go from the Nets to Dallas, The Record reported, quoting league sources.

    According to The Record, the Nets probably would buy out Stackhouse with some of the money they are receiving, but they still would need to make another move before doing the deal. They essentially are trading three players for six, and with 13 players on the roster before the deal, they would have one too many afterwards.

    New Jersey, The Record reported, would have to move someone else for a draft pick or a trade exception or waive someone in order to have room on the roster to make the trade work.

    According to The Record, apparently Devin Harris of the Mavs would go to Portland, along with other players.

    League sources indicated that Nets president Rod Thorn has been working on a deal since Kidd went public Monday with a trade request.

    Kidd, 34, is under contract through the end of next season and will make $19.7 million this year and $21.3 million next year.

    Kidd may want to leave New Jersey, but that desire apparently isn’t shared by his fans.

    Kidd was greeted by the usual loud cheers when he was introduced before Tuesday night’s game against Milwaukee in East Rutherford, N.J., a day after the All-Star point guard publicly demanded to traded.

    “We tried to make this work. We’ve found out it doesn’t,” Kidd told ESPN The Magazine on Monday. “It’s time for us all to move on.”



    Kidd attended the team’s morning shootaround but did not talk to reporters, and did not answer questions before the game. The slumping Nets have lost nine in a row.

    Asked before the game whether he was disappointed that Kidd went public with his opinions, Nets coach Lawrence Frank said, “I don’t personalize it. I’m more disappointed about where we are as a team right now. My job is to get us out of this hole that we’ve dug ourselves.”

    Earlier Tuesday, Thorn said he hadn’t talked to Kidd since the remarks were published, and declined to discuss which teams have expressed an interest in the nine-time All-Star. He said he wouldn’t be forced into making a deal.



    “The reality is we’re only looking to make deals that make sense for us,” Thorn said. “If every time someone said, ’I want you to trade me,’ you acquiesced, then you put yourself in a very vulnerable position because you have a revolving door.”

    Thorn added that with the development of second-year guard Marcus Williams as Kidd’s backup, the Nets would “probably not” require a point guard to be part of a deal for Kidd.

    “We feel Marcus Williams has a future here and in the league,” he said.

    Kidd’s agent, Jeffrey Schwartz, did not respond to a phone message Tuesday.



    Trade speculation has followed Kidd since last February when the Nets were close to making a deal that would have sent him to the Los Angeles Lakers.

    In December, Kidd sat out a game against the New York Knicks with a migraine, a move suspected by some to be a one-day walkout to force a trade or new contract.

    At a news conference, Kidd denied those were his motives, saying, “I am having one of my best seasons — why would I want to be asked to be traded? And as a team, we are doing better than last year.”

    New Jersey was 9-10 at the time. Since then, the team has dropped 16 of 25 games to fall to 18-26.

    Kidd was acquired in a trade with Phoenix in 2001 and led the Nets to the NBA finals in 2002 and 2003. But his six-plus seasons have been tinged with off-court controversy.

    His wife, Joumana, and their young son were subjected to taunts at Boston Garden in 2002 stemming from charges that he struck her in 2001 while playing for the Suns. Kidd was fined and underwent anger counseling.

    Last year, both spouses filed restraining orders claiming physical abuse, and Joumana Kidd claimed in divorce papers that her husband cheated on her throughout their 10-year marriage.

    In December, a 23-year-old model filed a lawsuit accusing Kidd of groping and threatening her at a Manhattan nightclub in October.

    Those distractions have not affected Kidd on the court, according to Frank.

    “One thing that is unique about Jason is his ability to separate anything else that goes on and, once he steps between those lines, give his best effort,” Frank said. “He’s proven that since he’s been here as he’s dealt with different things.”

    The Nets’ lackluster play and Kidd’s apparent dissatisfaction haven’t stopped him from steadily moving up the NBA’s all-time records lists.

    He leads the league in triple-doubles this season with 11 and has 98 for his career, third behind Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson. He passed Johnson for fourth place on the career list for rebounds by a guard earlier this month, and became the sixth player to reach 9,000 assists.

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    well, I wonder how reliable this info is??
     
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    Post subject: RE: Are the Lakers out of the running with Kidd?  PostPosted: Jan 31, 2008 - 09:38 AM PST
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    I read the same in other sites, so it could be very true..
    but who cares?????, we don't need kidd.

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    Post subject: RE: Are the Lakers out of the running with Kidd?  PostPosted: Jan 31, 2008 - 10:01 AM PST
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    It would be great to have him aside with Kobe and Bynum! But we would lose future players and a lot of others to aquire him.
    And we have a great veteran PG and a small PG that is just emerging to something great. We need a trade in a different position.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Are the Lakers out of the running with Kidd?  PostPosted: Jan 31, 2008 - 10:34 AM PST
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    If we can't get kidd with kwame, walton and crit plus fillers then I'm ok with what we have right now.
     
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    as i said before i'm sure we win both ways the real q is do you want to win now or wait for the future cuz that is how it's basicaly is.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Are the Lakers out of the running with Kidd?  PostPosted: Jan 31, 2008 - 12:24 PM PST
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    I agree with u lakers-king- ! But i don't think Kobe wants to wait!He's getting older.
     
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    This is a blessing for us not to get Kidd. Look at all this ridiculous helter-skelter stuff with a crazy 3-way trade nonsense. I see Dallas as straight up fools for doing this trade (if it's true). They lose an excellent guard in Devin Harris and he goes to a Western Conference rival in Portland. They lose size in their back court - Dumb.

    And why did Jason Kidd not stay in Dallas when he was first there? Didn't work then and doesn't work now. And why is it that Kidd always leaves with bad feelings toward whichever team he plays for? Could it be Kidd himself?

    Believe me - we are lucky not to get him and his baggage.
     
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    4lakers wrote:
    This is a blessing for us not to get Kidd. Look at all this ridiculous helter-skelter stuff with a crazy 3-way trade nonsense. I see Dallas as straight up fools for doing this trade (if it's true). They lose an excellent guard in Devin Harris and he goes to a Western Conference rival in Portland. They lose size in their back court - Dumb.

    And why did Jason Kidd not stay in Dallas when he was first there? Didn't work then and doesn't work now. And why is it that Kidd always leaves with bad feelings toward whichever team he plays for? Could it be Kidd himself?

    Believe me - we are lucky not to get him and his baggage.


    you have some great points there and although i'm against the Lakers trading for him, there is an intriguing side of me that wants to see just what Kidd could bring for the Lakers.
     
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    I can't wait until the trade deadline passes so we don't have to hear about him anymore. Also, I think it's getting pretty clear that Mitch and Company aren't trying to get him.

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    It seems Kidd wants to be on the Lakers or Mavs. The Mavs have expressed little interest in Kidd and we just haven't been able to find a really good reason to pick him up ourselves. It just looks like the point guard spot looks great as it isfor us. Kidd needs to consider other teams now that we landed Gasol. We still have players they would have wanted before Gasol, so we really aren't out of it yet.

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