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    Post subject: Lakers opponents could follow Nuggets' blueprint  PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 - 03:46 AM PST
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    After a big victory Thursday night over the Phoenix Suns and an even bigger loss Friday to the Denver Nuggets, the Lakers rested Saturday afternoon. There was no practice, no drills, no running.

    Lakers coach Phil Jackson said he would review the video of their 26-point loss to the Nuggets for clues to their many second-half breakdowns. He said it was the wise thing to do before tonight's game against the Houston Rockets at Staples Center.

    "Oh, without a doubt," he said.

    What can he learn from it?

    "Just what guys were tentative about, how (the Nuggets') defense kept us from getting the ball into the post position," Jackson said.

    "These guys have to learn things like that. The defense Denver played was effective. They high-sided our post players."

    In other words, rather than play behind Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum in the post, the Nuggets positioned their defenders in front of them or to the side of them. The Nuggets made it more difficult to pass the ball to Bryant and/or Bynum.

    The strategy was different than other Lakers opponents have tried this season. Judging by the results, more teams might try it in future games since the Nuggets were the first opponent to slow down Bryant and Bynum.

    Bryant scored 19 points, a season low, on 7-for-17 shooting. He did not score in the third quarter, when the Lakers were outscored by 29-8, missing all four shots he attempted as the Nuggets clamped down on him. He didn't play in the fourth quarter.

    Bynum also scored 19 points (on 8-for-13 shooting), below his season average of 20.7 points. He also grabbed 15 rebounds, above his season average of 11.9. He was the only Lakers starter to play in the fourth, scoring five points in 4 minutes, 25 seconds.
    "We had to manipulate their defense to get the kind of shots we wanted and we didn't do a very good job of it," Jackson said.

    As Bynum said, "I didn't get too many touches down low. We weren't swinging the ball and there was no movement on offense. A lot of it was a lack of team basketball. We would come down, dump it in the middle and everybody would stand still."

    Ring, ring, ring

    The Lakers have a little something waiting for Houston's Trevor Ariza tonight. They plan to present him with his championship ring, a reward for helping them win the 15th title in franchise history last June.

    Ariza said it was no big deal facing his old teammates when the Lakers and Rockets played Nov. 4 in Houston. He said tonight's game figured to be a good deal more emotional and memorable.

    After all, he will get his championship ring tonight.

    Plus, it will mark his return to L.A., where he was a standout at Westchester High School and UCLA before joining the pro ranks. He played with the New York Knicks and Orlando Magic before he was traded to the Lakers in November 2007.

    Link: http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_13792789
     
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    Post subject: RE: Lakers opponents could follow Nuggets' blueprint  PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 - 04:26 AM PST
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    Not buying this at all. The loss to Denver was one that you could almost see coming. It is what I call a 'setup game'. This is what I mean: We knocked them out of the playoffs last year. They had this game circled ALL OFF SEASON to get a modicum of revenge. Denver was at home. The Lakers had played the night before and got into Denver around 4 am. Denver had the day off and was waiting on us full of fire and rested up. The last thing to remember is that Denver is also a very good and proud team. You can't beat them every time, or even be competive with them every time they meet. You see games like this all the time in the NBA because of the hectic schedule.

    Throw in the very emotional revenge factor in their building and that loss was not unexpected at all. We have all seen similar situations play out like this over the years. It was actually a good game to lay some money on Denver and if I were not a Laker fan, I would have done so. It was a classic 'setup' game. Sometimes you see them in the NFL too, but not as often. People tend to read more into one game in a long season than it is worth. Especially when a team like the Lakers gets hammered so badly.

    If Denver beats us say 3 out of 4 including in Staples, then I would be somewhat concerned.

    You never like to see your team lose, especially by that type of margin, but it does happen, especially under the circumstances that particular game was played under.

    I am going to write that one off as indicative of nothing as far as what it can teach other teams about beating us or even the balance of power between the Lakers and Denver. We will see them down the road when circumstances don't favor them so astronomically. I don't expect the same result we saw last night.

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    Post subject: RE: Lakers opponents could follow Nuggets' blueprint  PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 - 01:27 PM PST
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    The Nuggets had no blueprint, they just beat a tired Pauless team in a regular early season game. In a best out of 7 series the Nuggets would still lose.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Lakers opponents could follow Nuggets' blueprint  PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 - 02:30 PM PST
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    SPQR, Maraud, i definitely agree with both of you. What is this article supposed to do, scare the Lakers??? they were messed up and fatigue obviosly kicked in for a guy like Bryant in the 2nd half. Our guys were horrible on the offensive end like Bynum said. They made Denver look like they had a good defensive scheme.

    THe only bad thing IMO is that we don't play this team again till February. Until then, i expect a few "Nuggets upset Lakers" predictions for the playoffs.

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    Post subject: RE: Lakers opponents could follow Nuggets' blueprint  PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 - 03:13 PM PST
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    The NBA is a chess game. Like everything else in life. There's always a counter-punch. Like Kobe said, its all about execution.

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    Post subject: RE: Lakers opponents could follow Nuggets' blueprint  PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 - 04:26 PM PST
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    I really don't think the nuggets win over us was a big deal at all. It was one game and honestly the Lakers played mediocre in the first half and completely terrible in the third quarter. (I'm not counting fourth bcus our starters were pulled.) It was a back to back and we were missing Pau Gasol. Honestly.... It's just funny to me that the nuggets are so proud of their victory. It's good to know that they are so excited to have beaten us in ONE regular season game. It's like they won their championship game last night... A true loser's mentality.

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    Post subject: RE: Lakers opponents could follow Nuggets' blueprint  PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 - 05:21 PM PST
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    ^^If you recall, we celebrated when we beat the Celtics last year. So i don't see anything wrong with beating your stiffest rival, especially in a blow out and then making a big deal out of it. Quite frankly, it is a big deal after the fact that the Lakers have whooped this team in the playoffs. No excuses should be made. The Lakers players get paid millions to perform to their best ability night in and night out and they failed to do so and thus got a beating from the Nuggets. I have nothing against Nuggets players and fans celebrating this win. They deserve it!
     
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    Post subject: Re: RE: Lakers opponents could follow Nuggets' blueprint  PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 - 07:27 PM PST
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    buharskiyevrey wrote:
    ^^If you recall, we celebrated when we beat the Celtics last year. So i don't see anything wrong with beating your stiffest rival, especially in a blow out and then making a big deal out of it. Quite frankly, it is a big deal after the fact that the Lakers have whooped this team in the playoffs. No excuses should be made. The Lakers players get paid millions to perform to their best ability night in and night out and they failed to do so and thus got a beating from the Nuggets. I have nothing against Nuggets players and fans celebrating this win. They deserve it!


    Different circumstances last season with the Celtics, so it's really a poor example. Both games the Lakers played the against the Celtics last season, Boston was at full strength and had all their best players healthy and available. Boston was ready to play and, if I recall, they weren't playing on the second night of a back-to-back. Both teams were healthy, and ready to go, which makes the Lakers victories last season more impressive.

    If the Nuggets and their fans want to be thrilled about their victory against the Lakers last game, they can go right ahead and celebrate, but I think most reasonable people will put it all into perspective and realize that it was a victory against a tired Lakers team, playing their second quality opponent in back-to-back nights, and they didn't have the services of their second best player Pau Gasol. If the Nuggets really want to impress people, they'll come into Staples center and beat a totally healthy Laker team on their home floor.

    After dropping 3 of their previous 4 games on the road, I wouldn't be so eager to celebrate this victory if I was a Nuggets fan.

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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Lakers opponents could follow Nuggets' blueprint  PostPosted: Nov 15, 2009 - 09:08 PM PST
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    Let me see how much of a blue print they have when they have to double team both Pau and Bynum..The nuggets won't win another game against us this season.. Guaranteee...
     
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