| Author |
Message |
ReliveThe3PEAT
|
|
Post subject: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
 Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:06 PM PST
|
|
Lakers Topbuzz Hall of Famer
Joined: Jul 19, 2008 Age: 18
Posts: 12661
  
votes: 58
Status: Offline
|
|
Quote:
As we all attempt to grok Ron Artest: Los Angeles Laker, much will (rightfully) be made of the strange relationship Kobe Bryant and our antihero Artest enjoy. Off the court, the stars claim to be best friends. On the floor, there has been some serious (and recent!) bad blood.
But in real basketball results, Pau Gasol might be the most endangered Laker in all of this. Kobe ain't giving up shots to Ron-Ron ... but someone will have to, unless you think Artest -- who has in the past placed himself in the same league as Kobe and LeBron James -- will shave half his offense to become Trevor Ariza II. I sincerely doubt our protagonist will be so generous. So the Laker attacker who requires the ball to be fed -- Pau -- figures to suffer.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/07/02/arte ... urt-gasol/
Maybe itll be Fish?
I would love for Artest to be our spreader. A guy who can spread the floor with 3s and defend at the same time. Thats it. I dont want to see Artest take command of the ball 24/7. Too much talent on our team and we have to learn to share the ball. |
_________________
"I just wish more people would celebrate Kobe. I really do. We spend so much time trying to tear him apart and I think we're missing how great he is" - Doc Rivers
Last edited by ReliveThe3PEAT on Jul 03, 2009 - 02:09 PM PST; edited 1 time in total
|
| |
|
|
|
 |
|
IhatetheCeltics
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:08 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Jul 06, 2007
Posts: 3146
votes: 16
Status: Offline
|
|
| Who knows. I guess we will just see how it plays out. |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Tempy
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:12 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Jul 12, 2008
Posts: 3902
Location: El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles
votes: 10
Status: Offline
|
|
| wasnt this the same vibe that came out last season when pau would have to give touches to bynum so dont pick him in your fantasy team and what happened, pau got his numbers regardless. Contrary to what reporters tell us, the reason why kobe shoots so much is because when we are down he believes no one else will step up and make that play or at least try to, but artest will like i said before we finally have a player who can also create his own shot off the dribble and on top of that is probs the best wing man defender in the game? |
_________________
The Lakers -- doin' it Cali style.™
___________________
|__|__|__|_|__|__|__|__|__|__\
|__|Tempy [LTB]_____|_|_|__\__
|___LAKER FAN BUS_|_| ______|
|_(@'@)____________|_|(@)___/
Thanks Opti And Baad for the help with my Sig
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
VujacicSlovenia
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:30 PM PST
|
|
Lakers Topbuzz Hall of Famer
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Posts: 5361
votes: 47
Status: Offline
|
|
| I actually think Kobe will give some shots up. In those situations where we've needed to get a shot up with less than ten seconds on the clock, the ball's usually gone to Bryant to look to create for himself. But now we've got Artest who is perfectly capable of doing that himself. I won't be surprised to see Bryant's shots and points per game go down a little this year. |
_________________
“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” -- William Arthur Ward
"That’s what kings and queens are put on the earth for, to have offspring." - Lamar Odom
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
IhatetheCeltics
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:36 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Jul 06, 2007
Posts: 3146
votes: 16
Status: Offline
|
|
| Kobe should give some shots up. Because he should realize the team does better when he shoots less. |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Tempy
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:39 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Jul 12, 2008
Posts: 3902
Location: El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles
votes: 10
Status: Offline
|
|
| no the team is better when he uses better shot selection, with kobes basketball iq im suprised he hasnt done something about it |
_________________
The Lakers -- doin' it Cali style.™
___________________
|__|__|__|_|__|__|__|__|__|__\
|__|Tempy [LTB]_____|_|_|__\__
|___LAKER FAN BUS_|_| ______|
|_(@'@)____________|_|(@)___/
Thanks Opti And Baad for the help with my Sig
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
lakeshowsd
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:49 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Dec 20, 2008 Age: 28
Posts: 2594
Location: North Bend, OR
votes: 32
Status: Offline
|
|
| The Lakers have so much firepower that I think everyone's averages will be down this year, yet the Lakers will easily be the top scoring team in the NBA. I see Kobe averaging about 24 points, 5 boards, Gasol will drop down to about 16 points, 9 boards, Bynum will average about 14 and 9, and Artest will average about 14 and 5. Odom should chip in with about 10 points and 6 boards per game, Fisher 10 and 2, and the rest of the bench will average about 20 points per game. That totals out to about 108 points per game average as a team. The Lakers will have BY FAR the most balanced and unstoppable offense in the game. Period. |
_________________
"No center in the NBA scores 20 per game easier than Andrew Bynum." - lakeshowsd
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Omarkb24
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 02:58 PM PST
|
|
Die-Hard Laker Fan
Joined: Oct 09, 2007 Age: 20
Posts: 1973
votes: 14
Status: Offline
|
|
why are u guys thinking so negativeeeeeeeeeeee..........boston has 3 allstars and they meshed right, they were all franchise playersssssssss
kobe and gasol are the only franchise players because they are so freakin good
then comes
artest, bynum, then odom as which one is better
artest as a 3 or fourth option will be great.....less pressure on him on offense and saving energy on defense...great move and nobdy will suffer......MORE POSITIVE THEN NEGATIVES FOR THE LAKE SHOW |
_________________
"I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying." -Michael Jordan
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 04:24 PM PST
|
|
Die-Hard Laker Fan
Joined: Jun 30, 2007 Age: 18
Posts: 1823
votes: 16
|
|
I'm worried about how he will do as a Laker and how the chemistry will be. Sorry if that's "negative" but I prefer to keep the core of a championship team together.
Now, personally, I think Kobe may take less shots next year.. But I don't see his ppg going down. (not significantly anyway.) Maybe he'll get an improved fg percentage. I don't want to see Artest trying to have control of the offense, because that won't bode well with Mr. Bryant. But I really expect his shot selection to improve, has he has usually improved an aspect of his game every year. |
_________________
I will miss you, Trevor.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
radicalp10
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 04:35 PM PST
|
|
Big-Time Laker Fan
Joined: Aug 20, 2008
Posts: 887
Location: LA
votes: 4
Status: Offline
|
|
artest to be a facilitator since hes a pretty good passer in the rockets
and hopefully he doesn't take careless shots
lol ron ron needs to teach luke some defensive skills
hopefully ron gets along with the team |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
LakerFanatik
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 04:37 PM PST
|
|
Die-Hard Laker Fan
Joined: Feb 22, 2007
Posts: 1286
Location: The City of Angels baby!!!
votes: 9
Status: Offline
|
|
Why is everyone worrying so much about who gets touches and who will have to down grade their game just because Artest is on the team. Phil Jackson will find away for Artest to play a specific role on the team. He's done it with all kinds of players throughout his career.
I think his game actually bodes well for the Lakers. It'll take a lot of pressure off Kobe and Pau to score a lot. I mean having 3 guys that can score really isn't a bad thing. You can never have enough scoring. |
_________________
Follow us on Twitter!
twitter.com/lakerfanatics
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
spankees
|
|
|
Post subject: Re: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 05:12 PM PST
|
|
Die-Hard Laker Fan
Joined: Dec 15, 2008 Age: 100
Posts: 1851
Location: Los Angeles
votes: 16
Status: Offline
|
|
|
LakerFanatik wrote:
Why is everyone worrying so much about who gets touches and who will have to down grade their game just because Artest is on the team. Phil Jackson will find away for Artest to play a specific role on the team. He's done it with all kinds of players throughout his career.
I think his game actually bodes well for the Lakers. It'll take a lot of pressure off Kobe and Pau to score a lot. I mean having 3 guys that can score really isn't a bad thing. You can never have enough scoring.
I look at is the same way. They can even rotate on who is going to have a big game, because you know Pao, Artest, and Kobe are capable of scoring 30 pts in several games throughout the season. With the Lakers now, it's called Pick Your Poison. I think Artest can be a roamer and they can also kill teams on the pick and roll. Artest is a slasher and takes it to the hole. If he misses a shot up close, Bynum or Gasol will be there for the put back. Kobe and Artest are killer from the 3 pt. line. Man I can't wait for the season to start. |
_________________
Stay Thirsty My Friends!
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
maraud
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 05:43 PM PST
|
|
Die-Hard Laker Fan
Joined: Jul 13, 2007
Posts: 2278
votes: 7
Status: Offline
|
|
| Artest will need to learn to play the way PJ wants him too or he may spend time on the pine thinking about it. He wants a ring so he will be on his good behavior in his first year, |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
lakeshowsd
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 05:52 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Dec 20, 2008 Age: 28
Posts: 2594
Location: North Bend, OR
votes: 32
Status: Offline
|
|
| I'm not sure why some of you are worried about Ron Artest fitting into the offense. All he's gotta do is make up Trevor's whopping 8 points per game average during the regular season, which Ron could do in his sleep. Then he has to match Trevor's monumental 11 points per game playoff average, which will be cake for a player hungry to win his FIRST RING. This is a guy who has sacrificed scoring his ENTIRE CAREER because of a defense first mentality. Now he's brining that defensive intensity to the Lakers. I don't see how this is a problem. |
_________________
"No center in the NBA scores 20 per game easier than Andrew Bynum." - lakeshowsd
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
javixxninxx
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 05:58 PM PST
|
|
Casual Laker Fan
Joined: Mar 18, 2009
Posts: 79
votes: 1
Status: Offline
|
|
| Ron is the fourth option, Pau is the second |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
PlzOPH3T
|
|
|
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 06:53 PM PST
|
|
Big-Time Laker Fan
Joined: Jun 16, 2009
Posts: 507
votes: 10
Status: Offline
|
|
Don't need to worry about ball distribution with Ron Artest, if the Lakers play well and execute, the ball will find its way to the right player at the right time. The offense starts with Kobe, hes going to get his shots off regardless. Unless Fisher steps in if things arent going well.
Something interesting.
From Dec 25th to Jan 31st when Bynum went down. The Lakers did not have Farmar for 4 games, everyone else was healthy. The twin towers Gasol and Bynum tore it up. How did Kobe respond to Bynum's emergence?
Kobe's numbers in that span [27.3 PPG] [48.5% FG] [6.7 APG] while taking his average 20 shots a game.
Now adding Artest to the mix, a strong versatile wingman that will assert himself and draw double teams?
Can you say "career high's" in the assists and FG% department for Kobe Bryant? It's not about how Artest will fit in, its about making life easier for our main man to do his thing. |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
lakeshowsd
|
|
|
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Gasol to Suffer with Ron Artest on Team?
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 06:57 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Dec 20, 2008 Age: 28
Posts: 2594
Location: North Bend, OR
votes: 32
Status: Offline
|
|
|
PlzOPH3T wrote:
Now adding Artest to the mix, a strong versatile wingman that will assert himself and draw double teams...
Oh wow. I honestly didn't realize that Artest could potentially draw double teams. He's talented enough offensively to command a double team. Nobody commands a double team like Kobe, and Pau needs to be doubled when he gets it going. Now the Lakers have a 3RD guy who will need to be doubled??? Its almost unfair, really. We have to remember that when Bynum is at the top of his game, he too could command a double team. Tell me, how do you stop the Lakers? I honestly can't think of a way. They are COMPLETELY unstoppable. They are more unstoppable than Kobe in the puppet commercial that talks about him being unstoppable. They are more unstoppable than the word 'unstoppable'. Dr. Buss might as well change the team name to 'The Unstoppables' because they are by far the most unstoppable team in the NBA. Teams are going to have to just man up and hope the Lakers miss shots. Talk about a vain hope... UNSTOPPABLE! |
_________________
"No center in the NBA scores 20 per game easier than Andrew Bynum." - lakeshowsd
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Hollywood_Randy
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 08:10 PM PST
|
|
Serious Laker Fan
Joined: Apr 24, 2008 Age: 35
Posts: 479
Location: Hollywood
votes: 15
Status: Offline
|
|
Look, when you come to the Lakers you know a few things coming in.
1. Your entering the house of one of the all time greatest sports organization. Endless legacies, and traditions. That kind of stuff humbles anyone coming in.
2. This is Kobe and Phil's team. Only one players has ever tried to buck teh system and make it about them rather than the team, J.R. Rider. He found his way to the bench and out of town QUICK!
3. Phil Jackson is well known to be the thinking man's couch. You know that before signing, if you want to play grab a** then this is not your team.
Everyone on this team understands about the team unit. They won with that.
It's contagious, and squelches ego's. |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
mambamonk87
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 08:28 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: May 25, 2007 Age: 22
Posts: 3679
Location: Los Angeles/San Diego CA
votes: 33
Status: Offline
|
|
If anyone's going to POTENTIALLY "suffer" from having Ron Artest on the team, it's Andrew Bynum. He needs more touches in the regular season to get back into that January groove, and so less touches may equal less progress. Pau has already established that we can win easily when he has a 14-10 game, where he's not the primary scorer. It's up to Andrew to figure out his role and mold his game accordingly.
But on the flip side, Andrew now gets a dude who can hit the 3's with consistency, spreads the floor and is a decent passer, so now maybe Drew will be able to work on that inside-out game that Pau seems to have perfected.
There aren't many downsides in this acquisition, IMHO. I'm loving every minute and second of ESPN coverage about how the rest of the league is desperately trying to put together a team that can combat our new look Lakers. Big smiles all around! |
_________________
"Real life sometimes has nothing to do with cheers and big paychecks."
- Lamar Odom
"I'm not Hollywood, I'm Hollyhood."
- Ron Artest
"I think they should go into a box-1. Put a box on Kobe and 1 on everybody else."
- Jeff Van Gundy
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
mambamonk87
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 08:38 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: May 25, 2007 Age: 22
Posts: 3679
Location: Los Angeles/San Diego CA
votes: 33
Status: Offline
|
|
And another thing, remember that Pau was never truly considered ELITE until he came to the Lakers. Yes, he did make it onto the All-Star squad way back when the Grizzlies made it to the playoffs, but then he was slowly fading into obscurity as another above average, 2nd tier player until he came to the Lakers, and lo and behold, he makes it onto the All-Star squad again.
Also, Pau's numbers stayed around the same when he came here, even playing with the famous "ball hog" Kobe Bryant, and yet his effectiveness still went up. Less touches but better shots. I think his FG% with the Lakers has been the best since he came into the league. Lol even his 3FG% was 50% with us this year.
I don't think Pau's going to have ANY trouble being as consistent as he's been for us, if anything, his APG might even bump up to 4-5. |
_________________
"Real life sometimes has nothing to do with cheers and big paychecks."
- Lamar Odom
"I'm not Hollywood, I'm Hollyhood."
- Ron Artest
"I think they should go into a box-1. Put a box on Kobe and 1 on everybody else."
- Jeff Van Gundy
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
lakeshowsd
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 08:52 PM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Dec 20, 2008 Age: 28
Posts: 2594
Location: North Bend, OR
votes: 32
Status: Offline
|
|
| Yeah, mambamonk87. I can totally see Pau averaging 4 or 5 assists next year... totally. |
_________________
"No center in the NBA scores 20 per game easier than Andrew Bynum." - lakeshowsd
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
ericbdepraved
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 11:08 PM PST
|
|
Big-Time Laker Fan
Joined: Jul 21, 2007
Posts: 742
votes: 2
Status: Offline
|
|
| The only way Pau's game will suffer is he might have to share some of the rebounds he gets with Artest, Bynum and Odom. We have the tools and skills to lead the league in rebounding next year. Dont forget about Ron Ron and his steals. He is so strong he just seperates you from the ball by ripping it out of your hands. I cant wait. |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
dmaxkb
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 03, 2009 - 11:34 PM PST
|
|
Casual Laker Fan
Joined: Oct 03, 2008
Posts: 56
Location: Philippines
votes: 1
Status: Offline
|
|
| i think we have to give Artest a chance to contribute for our team. for now, let's just stop complaining and commenting negative since we have not seen yet the chemistry of our team. maybe after the 1st half of the season, we can start evaluating the do's and don'ts of our team. DO LAKERS! |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
PlzOPH3T
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 12:04 AM PST
|
|
Big-Time Laker Fan
Joined: Jun 16, 2009
Posts: 507
votes: 10
Status: Offline
|
|
when Bynum went on his January groove he only averaged an extra shot per game(11), with the exception of the Clipper game where he was in the zone scoring 42. And1's and FT are going to be his butter. He will be alright, definitely a 15-10 guy.
But I can see it now... Ron Artest fakes the 3 and drives, kicks out to an open Bryant for 3! Yes!
Kobe drives and kicks to Artest, Artest swings the ball to a WIDE open Fisher who is all alone... BANG.
Artest sets the screen for Kobe, Kobe drives lobs the alley oop to Bynum! The crowd at Staples Center is going insane!
The pass goes down low to Gasol, Gasol backing down then dishes to the slashing Artest for the SLAM! Pandemonium here in Staples! |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
kb24_4life
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 12:29 AM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Nov 28, 2007 Age: 19
Posts: 4750
votes: 27
Status: Offline
|
|
I can already picture all four of those sequences happening PlzOPH3T.
Quote:
Ron Artest fakes the 3 and drives, kicks out to an open Bryant for 3! Yes!
Artest brings the ball up the court and fakes a three. His defender bites on the fake and Artest drives, so Kobe's defender goes to help and that leaves Kobe open for the 3. Kobe looks at the basket, takes his time, and BAM!!!
Quote:
Kobe drives and kicks to Artest, Artest swings the ball to a WIDE open Fisher who is all alone... BANG.
Kobe gets the ball at the top of three-point like and drives. Artest's defender starts moving towards Kobe and Kobe kicks it out to Artest who is on the right wing. Artest does a little pump fake and Fisher's defender goes to try and block him and that's when Artest passes it to Fish for the three in the corner.
Quote:
Artest sets the screen for Kobe, Kobe drives lobs the alley oop to Bynum! The crowd at Staples Center is going insane!
Artest sets a screen for Kobe at the top of the key. Kobe drives and pulls up for his usual midrange jumper at the free throw line and that's when Bynum's defender cheats off him to contest Kobe and from there on, it's doom. Kobe passes it to Bynum who slams it home for the easy two.
Quote:
The pass goes down low to Gasol, Gasol backing down then dishes to the slashing Artest for the SLAM! Pandemonium here in Staples!
Gasol gets the ball on the left side of the court and faces his defender. He puts a series of moves on him and then comes the double team. Artest slashes to the basket and Gasol bounces the ball to Artest for the easy two handed slam.
I can't wait for this season to start so we can see just how dominating this Laker team is going to be. |
_________________
“We don’t really know the identity of the team right now,” Artest said. “We’re driving without a license—no identity. We’re like ‘The Bourne Ultimatum.”’
24,027 #16
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
NigerianLaker
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 12:57 AM PST
|
|
Big-Time Laker Fan
Joined: Dec 06, 2008
Posts: 689
votes: 7
Status: Offline
|
|
| The whole team is going to suffer if the galaxy of stars we have dont develop team chemistry. |
_________________
Faster than a speeding bullet.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Kobe+talent=4morerings
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 01:03 AM PST
|
|
Die-Hard Laker Fan
Joined: Sep 12, 2007
Posts: 1476
Location: mesa AZ
votes: 9
Status: Offline
|
|
| i love this trade artest is the type of player who can go get his points if need but he can also feed of his team and hit 3s and he will get plenty of space with bynum gasol and kobe, i really think we will see a side of artest we have never seem a real team player, artest actually set out to do this with the rockets, but with tmac going down he was forced to be a different player, if phil can handle rodman he can handle anyone, and also when we lost to the celtics last year one of the reasons was do to the celtics could lock on kobe and the lakers has no other player that can handle the rock and be a play maker artest is that guy...i really feel we will get back to back chips |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
shannon-ourfuture-
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 01:05 AM PST
|
|
Casual Laker Fan
Joined: Apr 22, 2009
Posts: 114
votes: 1
Status: Offline
|
|
|
NigerianLaker wrote:
The whole team is going to suffer if the galaxy of stars we have dont develop team chemistry.
the team chemistry isnt gonna a problem.. i mean we have one of the best coach in NBA..
he coached rodman.(come on now)
i think lakers should go overseas, like the boston did to unite as a team.. |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
IhatetheCeltics
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 01:06 AM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Jul 06, 2007
Posts: 3146
votes: 16
Status: Offline
|
|
| They should hold training camp in Bora Bora. |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
gemfow
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 01:09 AM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Jul 12, 2007
Posts: 3342
Location: Maryland
votes: 42
Status: Offline
|
|
| I think if the Lakers resign Odom, who i feel is the glue of the team, then we are really going to be fine chemistry-wise. Kobe's points will go down, Kobe for once is not the only shot creator on the perimeter now. Artest has the handles to drive and that is something the Lakers have needed since about 2004. |
_________________
"It made me feel like I should throw mine away." - Larry Bird, upon hearing that Kobe hadn't earned the MVP trophy until this year.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
flixos
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 06:38 AM PST
|
|
Die-Hard Laker Fan
Joined: Jan 29, 2009 Age: 37
Posts: 1001
votes: 7
Status: Offline
|
|
| If there's a guy at the Lakers who can make his numbers, no matter with which guys he's playing, he's Pau for sure. He's nearly 20ppg/10rpg/3apg/1bpg playing C, PF...i don´t see any problem about having Artest in the same rotation. Playing against Houston last PO's, i didn´t see Artest making 30 shots per game...of course, there will be changes. Don´t forget he will be playing under the triangle's rules, not an usual system with designed plays for a guy. |
_________________
Magic, best basketball player ever
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
cuckooroller
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 07:36 AM PST
|
|
Lakers Topbuzz Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 27, 2008 Age: 59
Posts: 6659
Location: Italy
votes: 65
Status: Offline
|
|
Yes, a spiritual retreat would be a good idea. I suggest they go to Boston. The home of "Ubuntu". They should go there and learn why Boston-style Ubuntu is just a huge crock! Hopefully, the hollowness of this mendacious "togetherness" has now been placed in an early grave after the absolutely despicable way in which one of their own, a warrior that gave his all furthering their "togetherness" fell in battle, Leon Powe, no longer "together" after the franchise, and its' players abandoned his martyred body on the fields of battle.
We go there to find instead Lakerbushido, "enlightened self-interest", self-sacrifice at the disposition of the team for the sole purpose of furthering the Laker Championship tally. No empty promises, if you fall, tough! At least, it is not the total feel-good pile of crap that is Ubuntu. At least, it is sincere! |
_________________
Steve
"Sasha Vujacic. The All-Time YWCA Scoring Leader".
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
NJsBiggestLakerfanatic
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 08:11 AM PST
|
|
Serious Laker Fan
Joined: May 27, 2009
Posts: 438
Location: New Jersey
votes: 1
Status: Offline
|
|
| I have to believe that PJ has thought long and hard about how Artest will fit into the mix and if anybody WILL make it work PJ will. I'm hoping Phil can truly get into Artest's head, give him some books to read on the road and get this guy to "alter" his whole attitude. Who has a tougher job Lakers dealing with Artest OR the Celtics "IF" the get Wallace????? |
_________________
Those who are victorious plan effectively and change decisively. They are like a great river that maintains its course, but adjusts it flow… They are skilled in both planning and adapting and need not fear the result of a thousand battles;
-Sun Tzu-
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
urkle9
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 11:05 AM PST
|
|
Laker GM
Joined: Oct 06, 2008
Posts: 3651
votes: 16
Status: Offline
|
|
| These things usually plays itself out, furthermore Ron Ron is a guy that prides himself on Defense first. He obviously didnt come here to be the star on the team, Look at what he is getting paid. |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Janglesjr
|
|
|
Post subject:
Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 11:13 AM PST
|
|
Die-Hard Laker Fan
Joined: Jun 17, 2007
Posts: 1654
votes: 21
Status: Offline
|
|
My boy JXN and I were talking about this - What about bringing Artest off the bench with LO? The Queensbridge duo automatically makes our bench better than any other bench out there, not too mention better than some starting fives. Making sure everyone will get their touches is an obvious worry, so why not spread it out?
Fisher/Farmar
Kobe/Brown/Sasha
Luke/Artest/Morrison
Pau/LO/Powell
Bynum/DJ
Of course, here is our 4th quarter lock-down D lineup:
Kobe
Artest
LO
Pau
Bynum
Three 7-footers and the best perimeter D in the entire league. |
_________________
"I don't get no respect."
-Rodney Dangerfield
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Register
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
Sub-Category
