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Post Subject: RE: Bulls Post ID: 198709by VS » Jun 30, 2008 - 10:25 PM PST
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I could see Chicago wanting to make a run at Wade in 2010. They might bite on an offer of Odom and Farmar for Hinrich and Nocioni.



                
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Post Subject: Bulls Post ID: 198711by lakers_fan_from_ny » Jun 30, 2008 - 10:27 PM PST
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VU- I heard the Bulls liked Drew Gooden though...why would they want Odom then? And why do the Bulls need Wade if they just picked Rose?

                
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Post Subject: Re: Bulls Post ID: 198731by VS » Jun 30, 2008 - 10:40 PM PST
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They would want Odom for the expiring 14.1 million dollars. Rose is a really pure point guard, teaming him up with a great scorer would be lethal. A Rose-Wade backcourt would probably be the best backcourt in the league.

                
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Post Subject: Lakers Post ID: 198739by lakers_fan_from_ny » Jun 30, 2008 - 10:44 PM PST
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Cyclone said the Bulls like Gooden and are not looking to take players to cut money right now. They are trying to win now which means they will be capped out and wont be able to make a realistic run at Wade.

                
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Post Subject: Re: Lakers Post ID: 198740by VS » Jun 30, 2008 - 10:45 PM PST
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Well, I've read a lot of articles. They all say that Chicago is looking to move one of their well-paid guards.

                
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Post Subject: Bulls Post ID: 198750by lakers_fan_from_ny » Jun 30, 2008 - 10:48 PM PST
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Yeah they will move them but not to the lakers. If they dont want Odom we have really nothing else to trade for Hinrich with.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Bulls Post ID: 198759by VS » Jun 30, 2008 - 10:52 PM PST
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Even if they aren't hot on Odom, I don't see why they'd pass up such a great chance to get rid of one of their guards.

                
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Post Subject: Bulls Post ID: 198769by lakers_fan_from_ny » Jun 30, 2008 - 10:58 PM PST
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VU- I would love to see the trade with the Bulls happen...but I would think other teams have better players to offer the Bulls then Odom. I dont think the lakers will do anything big unless they have to...I think Mitch and the FO want to see how the team plays all together first.

                
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Post ID: 199139by iluv24lakers » Jul 01, 2008 - 12:41 PM PST
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How about lakers getting Gilbert Arenas since he is a agent?

                
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Post Subject: Arenas Post ID: 199142by lakers_fan_from_ny » Jul 01, 2008 - 12:42 PM PST
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No chance to get Arenas...he will get big money from the Wizards. Not happening

                
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Post Subject: RE: Arenas Post ID: 199146by iluv24lakers » Jul 01, 2008 - 12:44 PM PST
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I knew that but the lakers need a big time defender, like artest.

                
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Post Subject: Lakers Post ID: 199148by lakers_fan_from_ny » Jul 01, 2008 - 12:45 PM PST
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Ok well artest is not coming either...so what do you want the Lakers to do?

                
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Post ID: 199151by IhatetheCeltics » Jul 01, 2008 - 12:47 PM PST
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lol, yea Arenas is gonna take give up a huge 100+ million contract that nets him around 19 million annually, to sign with the lakers for around 5 million a year? Get real man. Honestly, come up with some actual, realistic FA signings. Not the ones you got on your NBA Dream Team. Got, I swear, so many people are just living in a dream.

                
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Post ID: 199159by iluv24lakers » Jul 01, 2008 - 12:52 PM PST
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Well he always wanted to go to the lakers and i was just wondering.

                
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Post Subject: Lakers Post ID: 199161by lakers_fan_from_ny » Jul 01, 2008 - 12:54 PM PST
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Just like Artest wanted to go to the Lakers......money decides these things.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Lakers Post ID: 199421by DanK » Jul 01, 2008 - 07:32 PM PST
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chris mihm, vladi, walton for Brand Very Happy haha

thoguht i'd toss somethin on the table

                
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Post ID: 199429by optimistic7292 » Jul 01, 2008 - 07:37 PM PST
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Never going to happen.

But, at least, you didn't create a new trade thread like many do. You posted it where it belonged. I'll give you credit for that.

Welcome to LTB.

                
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Post ID: 199499by DanK » Jul 01, 2008 - 08:15 PM PST
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optimistic7292 wrote:
DanK wrote:
chris mihm, vladi, walton for Brand Very Happy haha

thoguht i'd toss somethin on the table

Never going to happen.

But, at least, you didn't create a new trade thread like many do. You posted it where it belonged. I'll give you credit for that.

Welcome to LTB.

haha, thanks...I figured there would be an appropriate place to put random thoughts like that. I'm on a car forum a lot (nasioc), and I'm the one doing a lot of the flaming when it comes to useless new threads by a bunch of newbs.

                
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Post ID: 199536by lakeshow707 » Jul 01, 2008 - 08:41 PM PST
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why do the Lakers need to make any trades? We went to the Finals and took the team that was best in the league, wire to wire, to seven games. And we are getting back, as Greg Anthony called him, the #1 draft pick this year cuz Bynum is better than any player in the draft and I agree. So why not keep all the pieces and see how it works

                
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Post ID: 199793by DanK » Jul 02, 2008 - 01:28 AM PST
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Melo? areyou serious? did you see how he played this past post season against the lakers? Denver absolutely has NO defense except for camby. IMO melo sucks balls when it comes to him being a leader. he gets the ball...has the same damn move every single friggen time and makes like 20% of em'.......NEXT!

                
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Post ID: 199857by JoelyJ » Jul 02, 2008 - 07:36 AM PST
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Even though at times lamar gets a brain explosion, and does some sort of hero move, where he will pretend he is gonna do a cross over & just take a horrible long jumper - he does bring defense & passing to the table.

Two attributes which our offense relys on, which someone like melo wouldnt fit in with. Yeah he seems like a fan favourite and all that, but why would u want melo...

                
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Post ID: 199936by noname24 » Jul 02, 2008 - 11:19 AM PST
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Melo and defense in the same sentence is like Shaq and good shape in the same sentence....

                
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Post ID: 200629by DanK » Jul 03, 2008 - 10:20 AM PST
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o yea, and Iverson needs to go back to Philly. I heard Josh Smith might end up over there Very Happy

                
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Post ID: 200663by lakerfan420 » Jul 03, 2008 - 12:04 PM PST
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NO to Melo. We don't need any MAJOR changes. 2 wins away WITHOUT BYNUM. I'm all for signing a defensive vet free agent but let's not trade Lamar at this point. Why risk our good chemistry on a kid who has issues of his own and doesn't play defense?

                
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Post ID: 200671by lakeshow707 » Jul 03, 2008 - 12:09 PM PST
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let this thread die please, its just some noob troll waisting space on this site

                
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Post ID: 200674by IhatetheCeltics » Jul 03, 2008 - 12:11 PM PST
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It's funny, because people like seeing big trades go down. Even if it makes no sense whatsoever. I guess it's the excitement of the whole process or whatever.

                
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Post ID: 200691by cba007 » Jul 03, 2008 - 12:56 PM PST
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It really wouldn't make sense to get Melo at this point anyway.

                
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Post ID: 200696by nightrain42 » Jul 03, 2008 - 01:02 PM PST
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Come one guys, would people please quit posting these outrageous scenario's ? Melo too much money, no defense, questionable attitude, dui issues.....too many to name.

                
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Post Subject: What do you guys think of this swap? Post ID: 203252by Mamba1024 » Jul 09, 2008 - 12:53 AM PST
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Wally Szczerbiak goes to Lakers Radmanovic, Walton, and Mihm go to Cavaliers What do you guys think of it? To me...I think it's an awesome deal, here are my views on this fantasy trade, and, I said "FANTASY", can you hear me, FANTASY TRADE IDEA! Possible lineup rotation after trade: PG-Fisher/Farmar/Sun Yue SG-Kobe/Sasha/Wally SF-Odom/Posey (never know)/Ariza PF-Gasol/Turiaf C-Bynum/Mbenga (I think they might actually re-sign him!)

Positives on trade: We'd be getting about 13.7-mill save for our salary-cap to be in great position to re-sign Bynum, hopefully he wants a new contract after this season, but anyways...but to the facts. Wally brings a proven shooting abilities, or at least a more consistent shooting ability than Radman and Walton. We would be rid of an injury-proned big man who spent a ton of months on the team, in the crowd's benches wearing a suit, an extremely inconsistent shooter who barely ever gets a good game, and a guy who before could score well, but now can't score well and is afraid of touching the ball because of possibly shooting and missing easy, open shots. Plus, we'd only have 2/3 (we might get Posey, keep that in mind guys) SFs on the team who can actually perform well and consistently in Odom and Ariza [and Posey]. A bonus is that Wally was with Cassell, Sprewell and Garnett when they were a team that could make the 3rd Round/West Finals but would always fall short of the NBA Finals, so maybe Wally wouldn't mind giving us some of Garnett's blind spots and weaknesses...LOL, just kidding!

Negatives on trade: We'd be losing an astonishingly smart guy in Walton, whom is also very experienced in the Triangle, and he might give away some flaws to the Triangle, but I doubt he will because he's a very loyal and great guy, but you never know, Gasol came to us, Brand went to the 76ers, Kobe had a rape-case, seriously, nothing would suprise me right now! We'd lose a shooter in Radmanovic who, despite all of his inconsistency, is a lethal asset if the opponent's decide to play zone on us, plus Mihm, if healthy, could become a very effective back-up to Bynum or Gasol. Also, Wally has been very ineffective with the Cavs and that might carry over to if he becomes a Laker, in which I think is a 100% impossibility, so...we might be in trouble if we do this trade, but hey, at least we'd be for sure able to re-sign Bynum, Sasha and Turiaf, but I'm not sure about Farmar, but hey, like I said, anything can happen in the NBA!

Conclusion: So guys...what do you think of this trade, should we even dare to get in trade talks with the Cavs, whom expressed in deep value in shipping away Wally, even ask anyone Cavs-related, should we dare to lose a dude who's extremely smart in the Triangle, a guy who can be a very effective guy in the Triangle with his 3-point shot, and a big man who, if and once healthy, could be a very excellent back-up to Bynum, just for Bynum's lucrative contract, in which might put us in deep luxury-tax payment, or should we see what Mitch does and say "Hey Mitch, I trust you 100% dude, especially right after you kept Bynum and Odom, ridded us of Cook, and got us Gasol and the taste of Kobe being here, Phil supporting us 100%, and having Kobe and the rest of the Lakers being able to taste the feel of the NBA Finals"? So fans, media, Lakers, Mitch, Jerry, Kobe, what should we do? Do this trade or trust Mitch/you (referring to me saying "So fans, media, Lakers, Mitch) to handle all of these financial bills we'll have to pay, along with the help of Jerry Buss of course!

                
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Post Subject: RE: What do you guys think of this swap? Post ID: 203255by DanK » Jul 09, 2008 - 01:05 AM PST
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how do we have mihm in the line-up if you want him in the trade?

                
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Post Subject: RE: What do you guys think of this swap? Post ID: 203256by Mamba1024 » Jul 09, 2008 - 01:07 AM PST
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Woops, thanks DanK for pointing that out, I'm going to edit that right now, and again, thanks!

                
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Post Subject: RE: What do you guys think of this swap? Post ID: 203261by DanK » Jul 09, 2008 - 01:14 AM PST
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I'd keep mihm though. if he can come back to become that 10-10 player he used to be...damn, that'd be sweet.

I WOULD LOVE TO GET RID OF LUKE THOUGH...UGH~

                
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Post Subject: RE: What do you guys think of this swap? Post ID: 203268by Mamba1024 » Jul 09, 2008 - 01:19 AM PST
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I'd love to keep him, but he balances out all of the contracts in my offer, but hey, at least this is a 'fantasy" trade offer idea, I love Mihm, but if it means keeping both Bynum anf Farmar without paying much luxury-tax, then I'll have to say "Goodbye Mihm", but DanK, know this, I love what Mihm brings to the table, just love it!

                
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Post Subject: RE: What do you guys think of this swap? Post ID: 203337by LAKERZ_DYNASTY101 » Jul 09, 2008 - 04:16 AM PST
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i would do it IF they would accept...but dank i DISagree...because Mihm has just been sucking us dry with his contract just sitting there and hes NOT even playing..and when he is playing..hes playing like crap...but yes..i would be ALL FOR getting RID OF MIHM!!!!

                
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Post Subject: RE: What do you guys think of this swap? Post ID: 203348by gemfow » Jul 09, 2008 - 04:54 AM PST
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Well, if it's a fantasy trade, why didn't you just combine those salaries to bring in Lebron James to solve our SF problem?

                
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Post Subject: RE: What do you guys think of this swap? Post ID: 203349by lakerchino » Jul 09, 2008 - 05:09 AM PST
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well if its a fantasy why dont u just trade coby karl for artest lol

                
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Post Subject: RE: What do you guys think of this swap? Post ID: 203388by CAZ_LAKERFAN_KOBEFAN » Jul 09, 2008 - 10:08 AM PST
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I don't like the trade, its not like Szerbiack is a big upgrade over vlad and Luke....

                
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Post ID: 203482by Janglesjr » Jul 09, 2008 - 01:38 PM PST
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I'm still waiting for the conclusion...it was just a bunch of questions.

I pass on this deal completely. You're basically bringing in a different version of RadMan who gets paid three times as much. Pulling the trigger on this deal weakens our depth and gets us garbage in return.

Plus, we can resign Bynum regardless of where we sit with the salary cap. Bynum isn't going anywhere, we do not need to clear up cap space for him.

Fantasy trade - VRad, LO, Walton, Mihm, resign Sasha and Turiaf and trade for KG and Pierce....I think we're to the point where we can rely upon Mitch to make smart moves; he doesn't need our help...

                
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Post ID: 203577by Mamba1024 » Jul 09, 2008 - 04:03 PM PST
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Jangles, how about re-signing Farmar? I don't really know the rules of luxury-tax and stuff, maybe one of you can show me the rules, if you would.

                
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Post ID: 203602by X4TI » Jul 09, 2008 - 05:06 PM PST
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SXZERBIASCH sucks.

bottom line...LA needs solid defensive perimeter types. The last thing they need is another soft jump shooter.

                
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Post ID: 203604by CAZ_LAKERFAN_KOBEFAN » Jul 09, 2008 - 05:10 PM PST
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good point dude...... Szebiack and radman games are pretty similar, he is a worse handler than vlad but he has better on court awareness.

                
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Post ID: 203646by VS » Jul 09, 2008 - 06:42 PM PST
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Cleveland would never do it....

                
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Post ID: 203657by vabeachkobe24 » Jul 09, 2008 - 07:13 PM PST
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Don't think Cleveland would do it. Luke's contract is pretty heavy.

Who knows...Luke may end up in Boston one day. Pops will be pulling for that.

                
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Post ID: 203682by Wilhelmthe1st » Jul 09, 2008 - 07:58 PM PST
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10-10?

He only ever averaged more than 10 ppg in a season once (05-06, 10.2) and he has never averaged more than 6.7 rpg in a season.

                
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Post ID: 203686by lakeshowww » Jul 09, 2008 - 08:02 PM PST
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carmelo anthony is not a team player, and i think this team is better off with LO than him

                
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Post ID: 203734by lakeshow707 » Jul 09, 2008 - 09:58 PM PST
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I think a much more realistic trade would be Vlad and Mihm to Houston for Battier. Houston needs a another shooter and a backup for Yao who isn't 85 years old, Love you Mutumbo but your old, and they just drafted a stud SF in Donte Green

                
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Post ID: 203740by VS » Jul 09, 2008 - 10:02 PM PST
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If they supposedly "need another shooter" (which I believe that they definitely don't), why would they give up a great shooter in Battier.

Battier's also one of the best defenders in the league, arguably the very best. That deal , in my opinion, could never go down.

                
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Post ID: 203755by lakeshow707 » Jul 09, 2008 - 10:22 PM PST
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I never said i was going to I just think it is more realistic than the Zerb one. I have heard from several sources that Riley has some strange infatuation with Walton. Under this assumption I could possibly see Walton and Mihm going to the Heat for Haslem. The Heat have an overload at Pf and desperately need another C with Blount being their only one. Rad is also a possibility to be swapped in for Luke since the only shooter currently on that roster is James Jones. On our side Haslem gives us a solid backup who will bang the boards and can play PF or C. Also if we get Luke of the books then I could see the Lakers giving Turiaf 4 Mil a year since Haslem expires in 2 years. A lot less pain to the checkbook than Lukes 5 remaining years

                
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Post ID: 204374by txus » Jul 11, 2008 - 05:54 AM PST
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What about Jorge Garbajosa joining Lakers? roll

take a look in spanish newspaper MARCA Idea

                
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Post ID: 204379by optimistic7292 » Jul 11, 2008 - 06:34 AM PST
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Nice. I'll try to translate it on to here.

                
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